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January 21, 2021 12:00 pm
Secular radio in her first press conference by Sprint secretary doubles down on impeachment, says the city can multitask, convicted private citizen and move forward with reform and relief talk about that possible secular radio live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow buyer wants the unifying the country does he think will drop a facially today. Also about unity in his inaugural address, and the importance of unity in bringing the country together. We are confident, though, that just like the American people can the Senate and also multitask and bacon do their constitutional duty while continuing to business of the American people.
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Call 1-800-684-3110 day I'll be talking with the managers as to when the defendant will be ready for the trial of the bank President of the United States for his role in instigating an insurrection, and now your host Jordan secular secular radio so you last night. That was the first press conference from the White House Press Secretary new White House press secretary Arjen Saki who used of that role for the State Department under the Obama administration that is been on TV a lot see if she's well known in the media.
She got that question from Peter Ducey from Fox News it straight up question we heard all about unity today. Unity in the speech and and so is is Pres. Biden considering either. No, not necessary publicly, but behind the scenes encouraging Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. Maybe that unity the best way to start with.
Unity is not maybe impeachment trial. As soon as next week and she some people are saying should answer the question.
I think she did.
I think she said there's going to be impeachment trial and they could do it at the same time working on covert relief doubt what we don't know yet though, is that if the Senate parliamentarian has actually come back with a ruling saying that they can have it impeachment trial and continue on other business of the Senate. We also saw today Patrick Lahey was the stated proto-Pres. pro tem who could soon place of a normal impeachment trial that was the President so since this is no longer the President, he said, though he's gonna put that to Chief Justice Roberts to make the decision, which is kind of bizarre as well.
You and II think of you for so I think this whole period of impeaching a President who's out of office is counterintuitive to the way in which the Constitution draft is drafted.
Now there's argument on both side and is that an in-depth check on that bike and will get that next segment, but for the fact of the matter is I don't think the Chief Justice presides because the President is not the sitting present. He's a foreman prep, former President site would not make any sense what this whole notion of impeaching a President was out of office for the purpose of impeachment of removal from office also doesn't make a lot of sense to me to. This is but but what we saw last night in the first press conference from the buying team was that they are not holding back on it moving forward impeachment they have no issues. I think there try to play the light of of that initially endorsing it, but II say it's a full endorsement week we can play for you later in the broadcast to me it was she had a response ready. She knew she was having a question like that is after that unity speech that's a lot of people talk. That is why after unity, speech, or we could be doing impeachment trout a week or two at the U.S. Senate and that's going to divide the country and divide parties political parties once again in the most extreme way possible. Trust us, is the most extreme way possible and easiest way to partner simply divide Congress is by holding impeachment trial, especially of a President who is now a private citizen, we come back and take your phone calls 100-684-3110.
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The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission in life today online/Nancy Pelosi is now saying on with the house will deliver the articles and now I was on Newsmax early this morning and there was still a chance that these articles the article for article/5. Usually there's more than one there's only wanted this impeachment of a private citizen would be delivered.
Probably today, and that they might not start till next week even on a ship that usually supposed to start at 1 o'clock the next day, but they might hold over till like Monday second a bit there, sit there saying it could only be a three-day trial that I kind of throw that up the areas you know I don't know if that's right or wrong based off making sure the former President would have due process reports the whole idea of this impeaching a private citizen, which I kept saying on Newsmax which is the truth of what this is where does the pizza power isn't this a lot of hypotheticals that law professors love to weigh in on where to talk about some of those daily broadcast but these this is reality of a former President know that that is that is that they want to.
But this is what it Nancy Pelosi said she again being coy and make it tough to predict, which makes it tough to plan for the Trump team as well asking when it's going, but we have to have to wait for the practice defendant to fashion a noun formed after ready to receive across the North.
Questions about how the trial will proceed by cleaner, we are ready. She says there the student has informed them that they are ready to receive circuit of it could be today, yes, but there's a question about how Trower proceed. So I think that's the question we we still are holding out his is a theater status every there's been no word on the Senate parliamentarian yet issuing their opinion on whether or not the city can actually do it. Impeachment trial and other business at the same time you first about your net statement by the speaker.
I think that's a little bit of a delay tactic because the that that notice from the Senate to the house that they were in session to receive these. That happened back on Tuesday suing theory. She could've moved as soon as Tuesday to send the article over. She has chosen not to, and Jordan.
As you know, that's very much like what she did last time she waited a long time. Last time it between before sending the article over, but your point about the parliamentarians of ruling Jeff Dorn. I think there's a little bit of posturing going on here to because they're trying to lean on a ruling from the parliamentarian that they can in the words of Pres. Biden bifurcate the day and do legislative and executive business in the morning and then move to the impeachment in the in the afternoon and Jordan in theory while while there's a way to get there and maybe they do get there. That's definitely not the default that's laid out in the Senate impeachment rules. Rule number three in room number 13.
Both issue a time for the start you mentioned the 1 o'clock time or after they received the articles 13 says that subsequent days, unless the Senate overrides and it will begin at noon and they will stay in session until they are finished out Jordan that they may come up with another way to do this but I just think it's important to say at the top.
That's not the default way that is set out according to the rules and President of the Senate. What is the override this. The question of grants override it so that it's just 50 want to be able bifurcate to be able to not just an impeachment is a just 51.it would end up being just 51 votes to see it edge and is in overruling the Thai President Depicting a sty. Guess what, the most powerful woman in America makes that decision. VP Harris alright so here's the thing you got a look at map and brought them over yet. But as you said this morning they could cause it to you last time they did bring them over yet because the holidays and they wanted to spend a month to battering the President with their information and get ready. Yet they they needed this to be a real trial in weeks long. The U.S. Senate this time around I feel like me to one article it's it's a delay based solely on trying to let Joe Biden get some things done in his cabinet but but but they don't. I think that they know at least they should know that the further away they get from this less less effective. This becomes as an argument because further way to get from January 6 longer present Trump's former President from the private citizen. I think is hurting, trying to convince 17 Republicans, which I still think is impossible unless something bizarre happened. Their analysis is there anything to prevent that the House of Representatives it was another parting choice and you know it, we we like Jimmy Carter did either on the meshwork go through each President had issues and say a word and I'll impeach them and convict them to me now and you looked at the law on this issue of post-presidency impeachment upwards in the history United States there has never been one. So it does not. Having said that, there are constitutional scholars on both side of the argument there really are jagged to sound like a law professor this during the broadcast. But I want to say that I look at this in great detail and late impeachment. When I say late impeachment.
I mean impeachment after the public officer has left office was indeed considered possible by the framers of the Constitution. The impeachment in 1787, when the constitutional conventions were being convened in the constitutions were being debated pursuing public officers come offenses committed by public officials was something that was definitely on the minds of the framers of the Constitution. Private citizens were exempt from such inquiries, except to the extent that they had been public offenders who had since last left office. However, the Constitution is silent on the issue. The Constitution either explicitly authorizes nor explicitly forbids late impeachments, but one of the two scholars that I read very convincingly argues from an analogy to English history and English Parliament approved the procedure that the text of the Constitution does not foreclose does not prohibit another words the possibility of late impeachment, but there was a very interesting statistic and that is the impeachment of the Secretary of War belt Belknap that to 19 in 1867 he was acquitted, but was very interesting with the with the senator sitting said the senator's 25 of the 22 sequiturs thought he was 25, 22 of the 25 thought he was guilty and but said the Senate does not have authority to triumph jurisdiction.
In other words, because it already left office. The majority of the Senate. At that point that no jurisdiction you know it it's an unanswered question it is and it's a political question.
I don't think it will talk about this and I'm not so straddling the courts weigh in on it I might not my herbs were and what you said about lady things and appointed over the Chief Justice decide who should preside. I don't. I think this Senate has exclusive jurisdiction to the house and the Senate have exclusive jurisdiction impeachment, but the one thing that this doesn't do, let me be clear on that summer, go to Wes on this quickly.
This does not bring unity absolute and after that speech yesterday. It makes the speech yesterday, so hollow and somewhat meaningless to think about this day earlier and Nancy Pelosi statement. She said this must happen because the President is guilty of insurrection. He is no longer the President.
He's a private citizen. If a private citizen is guilty of insurrection forum to adjudicate that is a court of law, not the United States Senate and in the second thing is you, Alan Dershowitz wrote a great piece in the Wall Street Journal today which he goes back to the Constitution and excess judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further into the removal and disqualification and Dershowitz is not removal or disqualification is that the real motive they want to make sure Donald Trump get run again.
That's the politics of rights or you write the it's not obviously is not removal because he's already left office is making sure he runs he can no longer run for office again. They are that concerned the Democrats is the only reason they would push forward with this in a time when you ride by McDonald truck. The issue right after his left office with Joe Biden should be the focus in his administration and their plans and their cabinet nominees and their ideas. Why put Donald Trump right back in the spotlight again only if you're afraid the down truck to come right back and beat you in the next Presidential election. That's what and I think that it does show weakness on the left. They really do believe that they have to do this or try to do this because he poses that big elect oral threat to them and this is again trying to forecast four years down the road, which is very difficult to do months down the road, let alone four years down the but they let me ask you this, and you get your sense when I'm hearing is there are no 4 to 6, eight may be senators that might might convict, but there's certainly no indication that there's anywhere near 17, which is what you need to cross over to have a convection so the reality is the presence can be acquitted.
Yeah I think that's correct.
Jnet that's in the ballpark.
What I'm hearing is well you know you the conversation you're having with your nurse or two questions that Sen. Hatton have to answer one is the justification and the second is whether or not this is prudent and appropriate and on that second question, J and II think it's a very low number of Republicans that think it is either appropriate or prudent. I think I think they would be willing to take the President up on his offer to seek unity and work on things together and they know this is in that day, I would say there there's one person in America they can stop this at this point and that's Pres. Biden, and I agree with Jordan. I think he's made his decision.
I think he wants this to proceed. Having to write the Army listed he's had the opportunity to start to weigh in on this for weeks after the election to its assay since January 6 to say that I don't think this the right idea. I mean I can't control them, but certainly I let them know that I think this would hurt unity. I think this will heed my administration's ability to get things done in further divide the country but also further divide the Senate was Artie 50-50. But if he thought the competing goodwill with symbols moderate senators were sinners and he would love as a trumpet are getting along with this post. President left office. Impeachment of a private citizen is bad only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right question for copy of mission life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans is time and are now free to sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member bank not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ secular radio so you know this whole idea. Try this is a forward presence okay see if they were they were present, but now private citizen so can you go back and correct in that Republicans take the accident when the house and can we impeach Barack Obama so he is no Secret Service and and really just sully him. It's been a week to say all the horrible things fast and furious.
You are doing the IRS targeting of conservatives with very Nixon like and go through all that litany and then may be convicted, not because we care about him ever running again.
But just so that he's impeached so that he's been sullied so that he loses Secret Service protection, he loses travel budget makes life a lot tougher for Barack Obama. He's a young guy, so why not what what prevents that I think it should be is decency, whether or not you can or can't do it the country, putting the country first over people and individuals that the country's well-being is bigger than you.
What attacked Ellen Trump for three more days and also look at the numbers. They didn't know that the first time either there with his huge trial. They never could have the votes.
Note do that again. That's the that's the irony of all this, they can't win is the robbery of acquitting doubts, but don't they don't understand is so, then trunk comes out once again, stronger that he was going into this well simply because it will say he was responsible for anything happen on January 6. He's been acquitted. He's great, you're wrong for Collier saying that he did that.
You should have never had. Now he's got a new platform. It actually will will strengthen his position early will and they had this I'm a psychiatrist, but they had this negative psychological attachment to Donald Trump. I think when this finally is over, someday, and it may be years they will really miss the man, the Democrats will go to hell for the center estrogen, hear the comes in from you to begin the handle truth seeker says these trials are cheaper. The American taxpayer. How can they say that in the middle of this crisis. This is worth spending the taxpayers money said to join during the break we were there last time. Maybe it was the beginning of code reading the note was covert and it was very tight quarters and people were sick, including us and other people getting sick and I'm thinking, how do you even do this and the accident with with the tragic that one in Washington just weeks ago you start this process next week to keep the National Guard in place to impeach a President was no longer President. That's why doesn't make sense. I remember sitting in the Senate. J. Across from you, but I was in front of Rand Paul, who in turn have later had covert and I think that I may have gotten because I was sick after that impeachment would you put all these factors together and what Wesley said earlier, this is just keeping Donald Trump.
It actually makes them more powerful and in many instances when you think about it because you just decided that you're not gonna let go. You're just not going to let go and that's the sad thing about it because you don't have the you're not going to get the vote just like you did last time we defended him were not going to get the votes to impeach and you certainly want. You cannot get the votes to remove from office.
You cannot impose the penalty of disqualification which requires only a majority vote of because you don't reach the threshold in all of this coupled with the whole media hysteria of silencing voices you disagree with CNN's Allison Cammarata is asked to just ask the President present binds communication communications chief if they will retaliate against networks like Fox news. If they lie not for father if they lie like there to be the determination by a begging retaliate business.
This is this is our thinking right now. I would send that to our team and get it so we can play it. It was Scott's calling Colorado online for I think everybody saw through Young's beautiful speech, wonderful speech, and finally people who are on TBS eight who were Republicans started speaking up and saying there were a lot of swipes at Republicans that speech and there was it that hand across because there's the impeachment hanging over this entire speech Scott Walker to Jay Sekulow Lodge on the air. Thank you for my call, if you were already in a boatload of contradictions by the want to unify the country getting out the clampdown on domestic terrorist and like the premises with code speak about 75 million+ American you know they want to remove the travel ban and yet enforcement lockdown lingo and then now you want to admit illegal, with no way of abetting them for COBIT with what Biden ran on it.
That's what they want to doing those orders of the inside there and process their been signed and executed that the travel ban associate have a covert Ciena covert with terrorism was not a Muslim man was banning countries of failed states of Venezuela's included in that because they could not those states could not be relied upon those countries to even determine if those people were the real people that were traveling on their country's passport with a link to terrorism with a link to organized crime with a link to gang violence readily to drug trafficking, human trafficking, so we're not going to let those people in up off of those passports if you if that's the only passport you hold you're not coming it's United States it wasn't. It ended up being of a wide variety of state supper moved off summer moved on, but that's actually that's done and you're right on covert justice caravans LC by wearing a mask and and I get this. I did get into United States were to do this blanket amnesty which he can do by Executive Order they can keep extending Dr. out trying to trying to do that, then you have to go to court over that and and they haven't done great in court over that all the time were prepared for that one. So I guess I think again there are part of the state except that elections do have consequences as Democrat President Democrat house in a barely Democrat Senate so I'm not except I'm not expecting Joe Biden's unity to be I would do everything you want is a Republican. What I did what I would expect is if you really meant those words which he doesn't if he really did, he would have a swatch. This impeachment before that speech he has.
He would been squashed that before and those words would admit a lot more to half the country.
Yes, and he has.
There is enough legal precedent within the scholarship and within the text of the Constitution. There is enough legal mystery in this issue unanswered unresolved question that there's not a precedent for a minute never done it. The most interesting thing to me are the Senators that voted on one that where there was Belknap when he was out of office and they said you know we think he did it but we don't think we have the authority to convict them. So when American victim. That to me kinda speaks volumes in all this, but there's enough legal cover if you will, and political coverage want to call that constitutional protection cover that Joe might say, look, this is a close question to begin with and I got an administration trying to get this country on track. I got to get these vaccines out why we doing this absolutely correct and I think the power and the moral authority of nothing else. Not necessary, the legal authority to present to squash the impeachment but the moral authority. The President can be exercised in this case, and people can say look, and he can say if he wants to any VN he should. If you really is interested in unity as he says he is to say, look, it's over with this. Like he said those are the words he used when he was counting the electoral votes today would go in front became elected President and there were objections he said look it's over with.
He ought to remember those words that he uttered back and one was in 2016 and under them again. Look, it's over with. I am looking at a new unity call. I'm looking at annuities and restoration stop is also this Biden went on about we come back and impeachment civil talk about we come back yet that's right so we looked at that as well the ability for the sin, it's just dismiss chart house without going into a whole trial that having to go through this whole charade, so that something could also put pressure since I don't think any of that happens. Joe Biden encouraging respect for decades ACLJ been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena.
The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and secular to the second power of secular radios to this little bit deeper so the true seeker of you to grow to any of these trials are cheap for the American taxpayer. How can they say that the middle of a crisis.
This is worth spending the taxpayer money on so shutting down the U.S. Senate, even if it's for 90% of the day, instead of working on covert really like is an organ of the macaws just that the proceeding itself in the security and the protection of the debris of the Chief Justice that he had to make the decision.
I mean I get to make a decision. I think I want to punt the city. It would punch the parliamentarian and want punt to him to the Chief Justice. They but this is on their discovery on their doorstep.
It appears very soon, unless Nancy Pelosi has some come to Jesus moment which I don't she will have less Joe Biden picks up the phone that could end it ended immediately with the present United States because it says this is a business, not good for the country Chuck Schumer to say you know what we want interfere with the President's plans when I can when I can do as much as we like to do this by what they were guilty is guilty but Bob then got this whole Bible, to which we'll get into where he said he could have all these motions and decide this without anything right. You don't have to have a trial that you can you can go through and so you will walk through ever people we come back we will for the race case of one of the things going on the know it really is the problem here in the loss of the two Senate seats in Georgia get that really that change the dynamic in all that you explain that will because that that really change the dynamic obviously doesn't mean that it's that much easier to convict because you still need 17 Republicans to convict you it and so you would've needed those guests may be 19 to convict instead. So it makes a little bit harder but still pretty hard to convict what it's done is taken the power out of people like Mitch McConnell who may have been very mad at the President said he very met the President but I think still could have been convinced if he was Majority Leader, but is not now that this is wrong, that this is not good Senate precedent is big on that so we don't want to start this precedent of just impeaching people who are no longer no longer serving an office there. They are private citizens for all intensive purposes. Yes it's different when your former President but but it is since it be impeaching. It is impeaching a private citizen. Where is there jurisdiction there.
Do you want to start testing that is is we are talking about that you let say they did somehow get to the 17 numbers was hypothetically trial lawyers like hypotheticals hypothetically piece the President when you first, you do take a right to the courts because there is no answer from the courts.
Yet the problem is the problem with that is looking. I don't think he goes I don't think he gets to 17 LS sub design also not enhance the courts were here. I really think Andy's been really looking read five larvae article. Just blame it's the courts really don't like a 1963 Nixon versus United States, the Supreme Court of the United States said the judiciary, and in particular the Supreme Court has no role in the impeachments. It was a concurring opinion by Justice Souter.
That said, well maybe if they do things that are really crazy will step in, but otherwise were not going to be. It is likely the really crazy the prick up present is not serving me that could be but this is a very loving horse you rely on the fact that 17 Republicans for 17 Republicans probably are going to vote for impeachment might get a handful mighty look at what is the what is it look like the image that he said this in the first and probably other people joining stemming what is it look like rearing anywhere from 4 to 10 yet it way short of 17 in and getting shorter every day for the reasons that you're outlining.
Look, I mean I think you know two months ago there might've been Senators organist at there and listen to the arguments and then make a ruling of a guess what, he's no longer the President.
It can be very very difficult to print to convince Senators of his party, who by the way, were open to the arguments initially that he's living in Florida now it's still depressing duty of the United States Senate to consider this by the way, when were in the middle of a pandemic. I think maybe that's where they should be folk certain 1999 Sen. Joseph Biden, President wrote a memo arguments in support of the summary impeachment trial versus Democrat caucus night tonight and how they don't have to even have a trial call it, but there's a Biden rule is also included within here will talk about that we come back from break, they just say let's vote on and see where false enough to hear Eric Falwell and Jenny Baskett who did what Ted Cruz and Holly did perfect trip for three or 48 hours challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now in our freedoms, our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.
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No, they haven't come to agreement over him site hurt that it, like maybe they were to split up the committee assignments because it's at its base is divided Senate, so maybe the Democrat would chair up at the votes would be the same. So yeah that that has been on the table in both leader Schumer and Linda McConnell were open to that. You might see an even split among committees. Of course, the chairmanship would go to the Democrats