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BREAKING: Virtual Debate Announced, Pres. Trump Responds “Not Going to Waste My Time”

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BREAKING: Virtual Debate Announced, Pres. Trump Responds “Not Going to Waste My Time”

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October 8, 2020 1:00 pm

BREAKING: Virtual Debate Announced, Pres. Trump Responds “Not Going to Waste My Time”

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This is Logan Sekulow nice Presidential debate breaking news. Pres. Trump says the virtual debate is a waste of time.

My Jay Sekulow fire commission a little while ago change the debate style waste my time in a virtual debate. What debating is all about. You sit behind a computer and with the and then they get you whatever they want.

Lines are open questions right now. One 800 68 when he learned that they called up minutes ago it was about now you only believe in God trailblazing raising of a good time. It's a secular reprogram takeover of Jay Sekulow live for today you will. We got to come on do debate covered last time they were back to do VP debate covers regularly.

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Every job is you. You love are debate covered but were also talking about the breaking news that was just that housed a few hours ago. Well this morning we woke up to news that the next Presidential debate, which is about to happen. What a week. Yeah October 15, so I get a week from today when it scheduled for a week from today was going to go virtual. Obviously this in the wake of Pres. Trump tested positive for Cova 19 and quickly within ourselves. Having announced Pres. Trump said that it happened that's right he called into the Fox news and said that he was not going to participate. In fact he said I'm not going to waste my time on a virtual debate and and I have to kind of agree.

I feel like part of the style of the debate when you have the two candidates able to get up there and challenge each other directly. Even though our technology has come very far me were able to connect multiple studios have direct connections in high-speed connections, but there is always a slight delay.

I think it would really hurt the format of the debate trying to pull that off remotely. I get it.

I also noticed I can see both sides.

This one, but I do think it is would be hard to do the virtual debate hard to do that specific style of debate. Even as a town hall debate because like you said, there is always a delay if you ever watched anyone on the news on Fox or whoever they're doing a live hit there always talking on top of each other. There is always someone not hearing the other person in there in a year. It's never perfect, and in our studio here is not perfect as always. Sometimes going to be a glitch here and there.

We don't know exactly how they had this set up. There were was no information really released on what a virtual debate right they just said they're going to participate from separate remote location they they would have to get approval to do a style change because they agreed to the rules and this was going be the town hall and town hall typically infers that there's people asking questions from the audience. It just sets up a lot of problems to potentially happen that I think could cause more distraction from the campaign then is is really good at this point ever either side. I don't see Pres. Trump really enjoying this. I also don't see Joe Biden would be so a lot of issues when he did his home campaign events right where there were delays that the Teleprompter would go down. Something would happen that happens continually to do this. Can't Joe Biden happened it would probably happen again. Pres. Trump I think we have to be careful in deciding that, but I also have to say there's going to be a debate there should be some concern obviously. Again he tested positive for Cova 19 a little over a week ago. Write out a week ago so you know, I can see how the election or the debate commission decided this but have a get people involved were actually involved this debate I would hear from you. VP debate mouse as we get back to call the 100-684-3110.

That's one 800 684 31 tend to have your voice heard. I want to know what you think about the virtual debate idea, but I also want to know your thoughts on last night's vice Presidential debate between, Alaris and Mike pence. It was a pretty interesting night and a lot of the topics that we can all say a breath of fresh air compared to one week ago so there was that we could weaken that bipartisan lien agree it was a bit more what were you stew and it was a breath of fresh air. We get back later discussed that a lot more about legal supporters later on the show will be right back Jay Sekulow challenges facing Americans freedom constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to the American center for Law and Justice on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress.

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And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later, when Obama care means many ways your membership is powering the right question mission life today online/this is the Logan Sekulow reprogram makeover Jay Sekulow live reprogram show will and I do each and every day on YouTube on couple podcasts on's bona fide digital media. We are there and were there every day talking about breaking news. We also brought little levity here and there tomorrow him and Eddie Van Halen Tribune episode, but Michael sweetened striper have a great show, but today were talking about the vice Presidential debate as well as I received the now looming virtual debate what happens there would Pres. Trump has pushed back on it, let's start talking about this debate last night. I ran a little late. We were about the text each other no means a thing to start you pretty prompting about 805 exit got going Plexiglas between the two.

Once I sat down. You didn't really notice you because it wasn't in front of them. It was at that bubble was just a divider double divider five didn't bother me at all. I and they got right into it and well like you said we are talking others.

We just show the clips online of the court packing stuff will get to that again.

It was sort of a night where I think the debate went well but it was a night where some lies were told it was a night where some questions were avoided. Some answers were avoided and it kicked off with an interesting one regarding the current that's right yes so the moderator Susan page who is from USA Today. She let off asking about coronavirus and in the response. What the Biden Harris administration would do differently and obviously that was on a lot of people's minds. We knew that was going to be kind of the leading topic and prevailing theme of the debate since the VP candidates were there and and Pres. Trump had tested positive, and so we knew that was good to be an issue they bring it up in the tactic that, let Harris decided to go with and this is just a few minutes into the debate and she decides to go and perpetrate a democratic talking point lie that is been debunked many times by many sources will get into that political and play bike 50 because this was early on in the debate. Like I said her first uninterrupted two-minute. She decided to go with this line, which is is frankly a lie. Let's go and play it capital tell you if you January, 20 oh as a post on March 13 what they know what you might have time to prepare, and they covered it up. The President said it was a hoax minimize this area. So let's stop there. That was obviously, Alaris saying that it was a hoax and that was used early on that was selectively edited. There were reporters that reported on it. Then later apologized for the way they reported on it with the President actually said was that the ways the Democrats were railing against his response was their new hoax that it was their new Russia collusion theory that the President's not doing anything to help you with Corona line the actual virus say the coronavirus was a hoax. As a matter fact when they were trying to impeach him when he was in the middle of that he was the one that brought it up at the state of the union. He was the one that was trying to shut down travel and they were saying no but still have our Chinese new year festivals. You can be outside in the streets altogether. It's and there's got to be no issue here in the large festivals so he wasn't calling it a hoax.

He was saying their minimizing of his administration's response was the hoax. Yeah just taken out of context. The blood likes that even Snopes always others.

It says no you physically run to was like because they always have a seat on my liberal bias on these political issues.

They even rated as very many Associated Press that it's a misleading claim because here's what he actually said, Washington Post, CNN even said no that's not what he said. Here's what he said so it's just once again showing that she decided to leave the debate off with dishonesty in the stair unit was February 4 right when the first time a lot of people maybe heard about it all.

Talking about things we knew that this thing was happening. Surely they will literally know the severity of it or how is it.but it was a talking point and that just kicked off the night look again I have to at least say this was a debate that was reminiscent of a debate we have an election year, which compared to last Tuesday was a little bit a breath of fresh air that she had to go back and forth and have some debate style now. I think there is a bit of concern on the moderator. She did a good job but that she would ask a question both candidates on either side would divert that question as you do in a debate go hand in the back to hear. I want to do that. Let's talk about this, but never the follow-up. I want you to answer that question. Some of them were questions we held.

We talked about. I hate the hypotheticals yes and you could tell both of them did not like that's the one. Towards the end in the rage they both did not answer any was kind of a a gotcha question. Do you have an agreement with the President or with your Presidential candidate in the case of Joe Biden that if you're to be elected, what would happen and what how you would hand it off if there were something to happen like it's such a weird hypothetical, but also there's a government framework for that like the fact that we all come in the rater decided that was a appropriate question. I think it's a little demeaning and and and not really the best questioning from a moderator, but they both avoided that they both decided that you know what when I can answer that were to go into other talking points here and/or talk about some of the turbulence important to you.

The life issue talk about maybe some Israel content is all that came up a lot of him up. I do is right here for Mike pence.

His response about how Pres. Trump feels and how he feels about their coronavirus is by three carnations gone through very challenging times this year but I want the American people know from the very first day President Donald Trump is for the health of America first before there were more than five cases in the United States.

All people who had returned from China President Donald Trump did what no other American President had ever done that. Was he suspended all travel from China, the second largest economy in the world know Sen. Joe Biden. Biden opposed that decision.

He said it was enough over and hysterical, but I can tell you, having led the White House coronavirus task force at that decision alone by Pres. Trump bought us invaluable time to stand up the greatest national mobilization since World War II that was from Mike pence you get a little bit of a contrast of of what happened there. How the debate started on folded now biggest props to the moderator, will you do so in fact play that clip that there is a I was our discussion of who got more stage time to get more speaking time airtime they came in pretty dead heat. That's right. And I actually saw a lot of people on twitter sing Mike pence is getting so much more time and that the liberal cesspool that Twitter can lead speaking time and this according to CNN so you know you that they would try to find a disparity if there was one. But, Harris had 36 minutes and 24 seconds of speaking time and print VP Mike pence had 36 minutes and 27 seconds so just over a three second differential which is a breath on available so that the moderator, because that she said you want to give them is equal time as possible, and clearly she did and there was even one time were the moderator said you can respond, but not as at great length, which was some people call that will that's not that doesn't seem right. Why can't, let Harris have his equal time. Well what it goes to show is that she was keeping track of it. Yeah, he did have roughly equal to the debate commissionable here after last week's disaster decided to you slept the rest little bit that we gotta get better better and clearly they did. Again, I think these candidates are a little different as well.

Your your vice President your kids. Typically, this is the case a little more calm now. Typically these don't necessarily swing election one way or other I do I do personally think if you look I would say this. Take your own political views out of it because your political views do matter, obviously, to how you can interpret a winner or loser of a debate because both of them hit talking points. I think both sides wanted to hear. To me, Mike pence came out as a much stronger debater and much stronger in general just came out and was actually having a debate, Harris. I think had a good night. LDG had a bad night, by any means, but I think that there was a clear winner to this, and even the news outlets immediately were kind of even saying that you disagreed with what they had to say that it was kind of a dead heat if I would give it to anyone I would give it to Mike that selling some of the networks were even try to make excuses for, Harris, which were a little bit disingenuous and I think we'll get into that later. But if you're trying to explain why someone didn't have a debate performance in a certain way, then you try to make an excuse for what you thought they should have done that just kinda shows that you thought that they want the winter but I do think that it shows vice President pence.

He has a career in and he was a radio host and then was a politician, a governor Congressman given that a lot of times I just say that there was a lot of conversation online about you know whether we can see a 2024 Mike pence and I don't thing that was happening much before last night, even after the convention when he gave a very strong speech with very not it wasn't showy and in-your-face.

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The President you know we contagious but you know you thought they had going there for the set up and I said no. I think what it is is I think that there they would allow the love to have a Teleprompter biting you the Teleprompter to answer these questions will allow is to be a strategist, or as aids to sending the answers.

To the questions on the fly. That's not far-fetched of a theory.

I think that you could have that kind of interference if you will. If it's done virtually specific. Virtually and controlled by the candidate themselves right. You could have Teleprompter to get your pieces.

You have all those things we talked about the be much more easily accessible almost to your point Sean.

Why would the day. At that point. Why wouldn't I just might have it. I would rather drop by when you have your aides be able to help preview these answers.

I think that's a big point. That's a good point beyond just the obviously they the risk of COBIT 19 which is is real and it's there that's an interesting point of view. Will that there could be some interference that would not necessarily be fair to the American people. Yeah. And I think it would bring a cloud over the Presidential debates and their legitimacy, which isn't helpful to our society that the purpose of them of the debates. In general, is to showcase the two different leading candidates for President and their different views. It allows them to exchange in their back and forth about their ideas and their views and their platforms and I just think of all, not just like the live shots that you see on the news of something where there's a debate gets heated and there's a delay, but I can think of some of the hearings that the U.S. Senate has done and some of the senators not being able to connect properly and they're just being a lot of issues that that really degrade the quality of interaction between that and I think of the witnesses and some of the Senate hearings have been able to dodge questions much more easily. I think it's a disservice to the American people. If were using the debate stage and in dumbing it down to be something that's knocking to be up to the quality that the American people really expect from you could just throw together a debate.

I understand your wanting to do three debates.

It's kind of part of the tradition of making sure that were able to have more Presidential debates, but what did I say after that last debate letting Debbie and others. I don't think will be another one will say I hope there is another one.

To be honest I think I they both need a bit of redemption from that debate. So I would like to see another debate. This may be a little bit more put together maybe a better moderator. As we said, I think Chris Wallace I failed miserably and is at least partially to blame for this. I didn't want to clarify something. I guess analysis give us that you said you wanted better moderator. Well the town hall debate moderator is from C-SPAN Steve Scully and he was an intern for Joe Biden's eyes Senate office.

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We do reprograms pretty much every day. Again, kind of a mixed variety. Politics, news, entertainment, comedy covered all of the reprogram but will it Shepherd back into the vice Presidential debate. Otherwise, some some fireworks's right in regards to China and I think this was an interesting back-and-forth on the trade deals and all of that between again, Harris and Mike soon as you see it in a traditional debate, the candidates try to distinguish themselves against the other and and Sen. Harris had a line that she she kinda tried to get in there against vice President parents about the trade war between the Shiite. Yes, let's go and play 46 so we can hear how she set this up earlier referred to as part of what accomplishment on the Presidents train more with China lost that trademark so that's, harasses a big line you lost the trade war with China. Clearly, again, these are lines. They brought up that were prevalent perhaps not going to be prepping for debates.

I didn't think that the more longer form comments that Mike pence gave gave him that edge that seem to be the way he dominated the time was different. He would sort of break it down right so let's hear now from you any of my pet yeah this is from the vice President's bite 48 to needs his response to Sen. Harris's attack. There lost the trade war with China. Joe Biden never fought Biden's been a cheerleader for communist China through over the last several decades and and again, Sen. Hirsch, your title to your opinion on title your own facts Joe Biden as VP.

We lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs in Pres. Obama said they were never coming back. He said we needed a magic wand to bring them back in our first three years after we cut back regulation unleashed American energy. This administration saw 500,000 jobs created moderator.

The only thing she made way to interrupt them was to just say thank you, Mr. Pres., or thank you Sen. Harris went on calling her just come all come out and was interested she was really kind of bizarre but that happened over and over again.

It did have a bit of that you know schoolteacher vibe like all right settle down so that boys well less than I think in this is some observations I saw people making on the Internet as well that it was almost like she was trying very hard to not be Chris Wallace that say things like moderator take you right she would just be calm and and try to stay within the boundaries and keep time, but it also then came across a little goofy.

The way she did it to say, there were lines that stuck out their lines. I saw posted a lot since all that fly posted over and over again if that's what you took out of this.

God bless you. Hope you're paying attention actually what they had to say. But the line will that that we displayed your title your opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts is one that I seem kind of on repeat in a good way. I think that is a good line special coming off of you lost the trade war then boom it was something that that really I think it's thing and that was that was impressive. I thought a lot of the vice President penances come back lines or little one-liners were very Reaganesque. How Ronald Reagan when he would debate he had a lot of those lines, like the famous winter. He said I won't I won't discriminate against my opponent for his use and I won't hold it against him and things like that. A lot of those seem to come out of vice present princes debate style and I enjoyed it. I thought it was interesting with that put away. We talk about the next segments of the topics that are really important to you, our listeners, we know that time of the issues of life relates about Israel rent. I got some of those topics that came up and they all did, but I'm happy they did because the last debate they were breezed over, but this one vice President clear-cut answers clear-cut different ways of thinking really talk about that and I want your feedback are also going to talk a little bit about the pro-life evangelicals from Biden that were announced and how you deal with that situation will be right back on the reprogram challenges facing Americans as time went on freedom sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress. And we have an exceptional track record of success.

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Some of the secular line. My brother will really jump right in to talk about some of the topics that are really important to our listeners with kickoff with life. Obviously a life barely came up in the last debate I criticize that heavily that was brought up very quickly and very much put aside. I was in discussion with a McCoy Barrett but now they were able to elaborate. I do think there is a clear difference between what will be a Biden presidency or a trial presidency in their ideas of being pro-life and antiabortion.

Let's hear it from themselves.

I'll let you guys make up your mind what you think will and in the moderator actually brought this question optionally asked about if Roe versus Wade were to be overturned and she even brings up the fact that he goes back to the states to question if you are still the governor would you then flip it and I honestly I didn't mind by princes response to that, but if that has earlier in the debate as we mentioned, they they use the first portion of their time.

When asked the question, both Sen. Harris and VP Pentz to talk about a previous topic, so the questions were asked.

They talked about the Supreme Court for a while and then they got to the issue of Roe versus Wade. And this is Sen. Harris's response.

First, this is bite 72. There is the issue of choice and I will always fight for a woman's right to make a decision about her own body should be her decision and not that of Donald Trump and the vice President Michael Pentz yet. So that's very clear cut it right and I was hoping we get a very clear-cut answer from Mike pence and that we did.

So let's hear from Mike.

That's bite 73 let's hear from the vice President. I couldn't be more proud to serve as vice President or President stands without apology for the sanctity of human life, pro-life apologize for and this is another one of those cases where the such a dramatic contrast, Joe Biden, Harris support taxpayer funding of abortion all the way up to the moment of birth late-term abortion. They want to increase funding to Planned Parenthood of America for our product. I would never presume how judging the county. Barrett would rule on the Supreme Court of the United States, but will continue to stand strong for the right to life. I don't think you have a clear-cut answer that what you got from VP Pentz in answer that a lot of pro-lifers like myself I were waiting for and wanting it also wanting from present troubles well in that did Messerli get response we wanted.

I believe pro-life but this is the kind of pro-life rhetoric that were looking for. Well, I was excited to hear this. I applauded in by myself sitting there because this is a strong language like he said he did not apologizing for his pro-life views and that's something that I did a lot of us have struggled with with social media.

If you post something pro-life to get a lot of pushback.

It's become a hot topic again and I I'm glad to see someone like the vice President say no. We are proud of our pro-life line. That's something that we've seen a rise up this week.

In particular, there is a group of of leaders within the faith community within.

Specifically, they claim to be the evangelical pro-life provided in the follicles for Biden. It's a new group that was announced just over last few days. If you want a real good break down on it I will and I did about 25 minutes on it yesterday on the Logan Sekulow reprogram if I that I do podcast players or you can find it on YouTube. I went pretty deep into this.

You can hear the people that they have supported. Again, these are kind of a put quote and quote evangelical pro-life leaders.

You do have some names you recognize but a lot of them are more the position you recognize like this guy was on the board of Christianity today, this is Billy Graham's granddaughter, but not the one that you remember from speaking a lot of more liberal leaning seminaries and my big problem with this it in when you just hear the difference between VP Pentz and Coppola Harris is when you when you start saying you are pro-life. If you do settlement evangelical supporter of Joe Biden. I can kind of deal with that I can really sort of respondent respect that.

I respect your opinions and views in at least you're not out there waving the pro-life flag but if you're going to be out there in your to call yourself a pro-life evangelical but you feel like you need to make a statement and endorse the only candidate really with the most aggressive, pro-choice and pro-abortion point of view on the ticket.

I just don't trust it.

I don't believe it. And I think it's really sad state of affairs where this is something within the church that's happening where the pro-life movement where the sanctity of life and the definition of life that was originally something that I believe in most realms of Christianity and evangelicalism was pretty defied that we seen in recent months really know. Maybe last year, even things start to flip and flip aggressively to where you can no longer you hold that you can hold these views somehow but support that murder. If you want to believe you believe that abortion is murder which what a pro-lifers do you're saying is murder is not the number one thing I care about. I can I can find with murder.

But these other things more important well and to piggyback off of that. What the pro-life evangelicals for Joe Biden even said was you know there's a lot of things that kill their smoking unit and it was all these this weird watering down of what abortion actually is. Especially if you're someone who is a pro-life subscriber to was labeling yourself pro-life and look you can pretend that label has been adjusted. But again, if you hurt my baby might read yesterday. It has it.

Everyone knows what pro-life made you can all of a sudden turn then flip, and I'm also sick of the narrative that somehow the pro-life community. The antiabortion community only cares about children when they're in the womb. That's a liberal hoax. It is a hoax and a lie and a false narrative that you been preached. Look at all your community groups look at all of your church groups you think are out there feeding the hungry are helping people and doing all of these things. This is not just the people are also pro-life activist, as people do care that is some ridiculous point of view that from maybe a fringe group that somehow took all of what's going on in your modern church and I feel for you. I pray for you because I think you're being misguided and this led to believe again. A gigantic lie and we saw the fruit of that lie with the nomination of Judge Barrett when she was put forward by Pres. Trump to be the next justice on the Supreme Court, the left immediately attacked her for her adoptions of children from Haiti and what what the proof is, is that someone that's pro-life is also someone that will adopt that will support those causes that will help bring up life, not just while in the womb, but throughout life from from the cradle to the grave the entire expanse of life. That is what a real pro-life activist cares about it and what we saw was the fruit of the left when Judge Barrett was nominated was they just so don't understand that their first instinct was to attack her family and to somehow in a weird bizarro world consider her racist in a weird way for testing children from Haiti is absolutely disgusting and horrendous and hopefully got condemned amongst all people. You should go after somebody for that. Now that does get us to a political talking point which came up last night which was on court packing, which I think is something we haven't heard a ton about all of a sudden it's just like the pro-life movement being flipped on its head for the court packing is become a top topic and mainly it is because clearly, Harris did not want to answer that question.

She did not avoid it at all costs, even some at one time a court packing and then didn't talk a little bit atomic and probably the whole bite get to 75 so VP Pentz essentially set up this entire narrative calling back to how Joe Biden refused to answer the court packing is from this part of the court packing would be that they get Congress to legislatively add members bring parts of the nine justices of which we had set for over one over hundred timelines. I bought your entire lifetime and probably your grandparents and great-grandparents like type that would be adjusted so there could be more liberals on the Supreme Court. That's the end it was shut down when FDR tried to do it and try to expand the court and he didn't get away with it. But that was his goal. But here's where how Harris responded to the question about packing the Supreme Court from Pentz was way 75 quick glad we went through a little history lesson left it out a little more fixing want to answer the financing making making an 1864, whenever the I think political heroes.

Certainly the President.

I asked him if you also Mr. VP and Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln was up for reelection and was 27 think you understand that he didn't nominate somebody said did you answer? Or pocket backingwhere you brought up.

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I'm thinking email Claude and the only thing the social media could have gotten out of the debate is best. Flying on time had been out and not focusing on the bigger issue.

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Liberals don't want to admit that he line. I thought the same thing every sly post, I saw look like I'm her friends and people even more conservative. It made me cringe a little knowing that that was maybe get to be the take away from this debate is other than a fly which, by the fly land on your head that you never had one. During the day. It was during the convention. This live happens.happens but you know beyond that.

Honestly, it was very stark on his white hair so it was it was a moment I understand there's humor comedy. I'm sure we'll see it on SNL this weekend, but I think you're right in the fact that the you the sort of tone was a little I'm speaking I'm speaking again it came off very belittling and again I didn't really care for the tone in general from, Harris, and Ed, I think she overall did a okay job only she did a bad job, but if he was going to be selling to make her more appealing to everyone. I think sometimes maybe the lawyer showed in her well and I thought that she was almost trying to recall in everyone's mind and create this image that Mike pence with his tone was just the same tone as the Presidential debate right. She immediately was starting say things like I'm speaking I'm speaking trying that was create this except that there was chaos, but there wasn't. He was very poised and he almost had a humility about him when he would say certain things that I think it didn't work. Created this jarring optic instead of creating the optic that I think she was going for, but it was definitely a tactic she had this plan to create that I'm speaking almost make her look like maybe the victim in some of the exchanges like that he wasn't in a let her talk much like the President they tried to claim when it let Joe Biden talk, but it really was kind of equal. She would she would cut off him a few times if he didn't have that same reaction that that she is interesting, that was going to go another phone calls that were running out of time we got to be belittling you to go to Don in California online to don your on the air will call for so good with your family going through all the sense and as far as possible virtual date that that may be coming up. The President takes the damages that can and decides to join it primarily because I think it's really the opportunity to really get his message costs. Those of us that support him and we get a lot of our information from you guys and from from other sources, but there are so many people that that that are just getting their news from things that they're not especially like you to get you guys are just talking about the pro-life issues they don't know about the bond alive in an activity just about all the things that is really really good chance without the distractions that kinda came from the last debate. It would give them real good chance just to get his message across. Just let let all the millions of people that probably have the first chance of really seeing that in all the things that he's been able to accomplish this early disagree with you and that I'm not saying necessarily that I think you should participate in the online debate, but I do see the trepidation, understand the issues that could come up front, but I wanted a dog on this run of the borderline act and thanks to you guys who have ordered yet.

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