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This happened on the debate stage again. You may not have heard this in national coverage because, again, that's not necessarily something that's hitting all mainstream news. But well, there are some moments that you need to see. Phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. We also have a major update in the homeschooler who, you know, he's a graduate, wanted to become a paid firefighter after a couple years of volunteer firefighting, becoming EMT.
You know that whole situation. They decided that being a homeschool graduate did not qualify him as having a legitimate high school diploma.
Now they reversed course. We got some some movement in that, some great traction.
However, there is another swerve we did not expect coming, but of course we have the greatest legal team on board.
So the ACLU is. Right back in to support this student, all homeschoolers nationwide. We're gonna get to that coming up in just a few moments. But will let's break down what was going on in New York as the attorney generals were having a debate. That's right.
So this is between Letitia James and her opponent, who's a Republican in New York. And what we saw last night was someone who's relatively unknown, and once again, probably is not going to win the election here. This is for the New York State Attorney General. General, it's pretty solidly for Letitia James. Was bringing up points that we have seen from our FOIA discovery, and what did we see?
We saw the individual point out things like what that whistleblower was saying. It comes at the time that we got all of this the same week as this debate. All of this is now public, and in the public discourse, the same week as there was a debate for this political position.
So, as we look at this and play this, I think this was probably the most pivotal moment, and it was kind of ironic coming from Latisha James, knowing everything that she's being accused of by this whistleblower. This is bite four with her talking about how she needs to handle her office and what she does as Attorney General. Those comments demonstrate empathy, and what we need now more than ever in our body politics is more empathy. Politics stops at the door in my office.
So right there, one, she's running for a political position. This is a wink and a nod at some point. Going okay, of all the things she's been accused for, to say politics stops at the door. If politics stops at the door of your house, I understand. I feel like that's more what we all try to say.
Like, hey, when we go home, we put politics aside. Hopefully, we're living our lives, being with our families. We're saying politics stops at the door of your politically elected position, and of course. Course, you have been targeted specifically for what? Targeting someone for political motives exclusively, right?
And once again, I think also the fact that she brings up and says what we need more in politics is empathy. There's a lot of ways you could take this. I don't think that she's had any empathy for the targets of her political prosecutions that we've seen over the last several years, as well as the fact of. I'm not so sure that that is the job of an attorney general to be empathy. No, you are the top law enforcement officer.
There are plenty of people that can have empathy in politics, but as the top law enforcement officer of the state, I kind of want to see you be a little harsh on crime. Yeah, that's right, Will. Phone lines are open. If you want to be harsh on crime, one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Hey, I did want to say, the work of the ACLJ continues.
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Look, a lot of you are watching it right now, and I'd love to hear from you. One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. Just going through my notes here because this was a fiery debate with Letitia James versus again. This is a a partisan, if you will, be debate. These are Republicans and Democrats running, so you may go, "Hey, who?
How does the Republican fare in a debate?" Clearly, they had to have the debate, so that is interesting that this debate even happened. Can a Republican actually pull off being the Job of attorney general looks probably unlikely in today's New York City or today's New York. I'm sorry that that could happen, but you know what? Put her best foot forward and gave at least a reason to question why you would elect someone. With so much political baggage, and I think that's mainly we're talking about here—not just the legal side of it, but even just the political baggage that comes with Letitia James.
The fact that your attorney general is a household name across the country is not necessarily always a good thing if you're the attorney general of a state, right? And once again, we have attorneys general on this broadcast from time to time. That that because you watch the Sekulow broadcast, you may know more about them, like JB McCuskey.
Well, yeah, he's like afraid the odds. Of of you knowing just off the top your head the attorney general of a state other than your own are very low unless you are a very political nerd and get down into the nuance of every state race which many people here at the ACLJ do we we follow these things he's calling you all nerds no no no no just the people that work here not okay not the viewers right so but once again you're talking about Letitia James she made a household name for herself because she ran on Getting President Trump four years ago, that was her entire M.O. And had some success in it, right? Not success, but had success in making it not pleasant.
Well, the civil fraud case she got a conviction.
Now it got overturned because what did she seek? Half a billion dollars. And this is the same person we played in the last segment that said politics stops at the door of my office, which is just hysterical and laughable. But I want to play this bite too because. As we saw from the whistleblower's letter that we obtained, as well as the back and forth with him in the office of Letitia James, he was an assistant attorney general in the state, New York, their attorney general's office, and he was saying.
The only thing she cares about is politics. She doesn't care about Medicare fraud. She doesn't care about homeless shelter fraud. She doesn't care about the rise in anti-Semitism and the violent crime that's happening in our state. The only things that Letitia James cares about are politically expedient prosecutions that are easy for her to boost her name and to get reelected.
Those are his words. And I think this question that you're going to play here it's an interesting one because it's not necessarily a gotcha question. It's one though to. Just see, like, kind of what you know, right? You know about your state.
Do you really know where you're coming from?
Well, and once again, you think that if you hold this position currently, there is some some pride and prestige that goes along with it. Do a little digging. You want to know a little bit what's come before you, so you can know one mistakes to avoid, things of that nature. But this is where the moderator asked Letitia James to name just a past attorney general she admires.
So, if you know one that was like in your same party, you could just throw that name out there. All it takes. Here's how this goes down by twelve. Miss James, name a past New York Attorney General that you admire. TikTok.
She only admires herself. No, no, no, no. We admire others. I admire all of the past attorney generals because it's a difficult job, and you've got to stand up. Dennis Faccio, at a time when New York State needed it, we had another former federal prosecutor become attorney general and bring law and order to the state.
Once again, now the opponent is clearly—it's an uphill battle for the the opponent, who's Ms. Kamatareddy, who is there trying to unseat the incumbent in a state that's going to vote very blue. That's it. That's a uphill battle. That's no one is is thinking that oh she won it the debate now she's going to win the office, but even there she was ready.
Why? Because she knows the history of the law enforcement. She's a former prosecutor herself. She used someone that was a very skillful debate tactic to compare herself to in that. It was the last Republican to hold that position, right?
And again, has been nearly thirty years. Exactly.
So yeah, skillful debate move was obviously prepared for this debate. Latisha James, it was painful. And if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble or Salem News Channel, you got to see how painful. If you're listening on radio, you heard the silence, which was bad enough. But you saw her like squirming, ah, mmm.
And the moderator even goes TikTok. That shows how poorly prepared for this she was, and that's what is the concern. I think with even this whistleblower. Is she can't even show up to debate? Is she showing up for the people of New York with an easy question and what's her answer at the end, which also could be politically dire of saying everybody.
Everybody. No one ever did a bad job. It's such a tough office to be in. I mean, that can get you in trouble because historically, you got some bad apples in in any political position in the state of New York. There's probably been a few controversial figures that may be on the payroll of some organizations.
I don't know. Yeah, you know, you never know. It's also one and one in terms of debating is knowing how to answer a question even when you don't know the answer to the question. You can always Swerve it, come up with something that is pretty interesting. That you couldn't even come up with that.
You don't want those big gaps, those big silences. Sure, it's human nature to have that, but if you're trained at all, if you ever trained to doing interviews, you're trained to doing anything like this and media. You know how to at least pivot. To move things in a direction.
So if you don't know and you can't, maybe you're having just sort of a a moment, a brain lapse moment where you can't come up within the second who another attorney general is that you liked. Again, it's an insane thing that someone running for attorney general wouldn't know that. But maybe you can't. There's easy ways to swerve it.
Well, could she also not have thought who she replaced? Like just one step before. She couldn't even get there. But once again, this is what we're looking at, and this is also why the work that we've been doing here at the ACLJ is so important. This is the political side.
This is just them running for office. But we are still going to hold these offices accountable. That is why we did file that FOIA request, and we're able to get from the state attorney general's office, from her office, all of these records. And what are they saying? Hey, December fourth, you're going to get more.
So, when you know where to go and you know what to ask for, you can then show the public you can hold sunshine to what is happening in these government offices. And it may be the New York State Attorney General's office that may not affect you. You can't; most of you can't go vote in this election, and that's fine.
So, maybe why are you even talking about it? Because state attorneys general are important. They do have a lot of authority and a lot of power to even fight back against the federal government, and that's what we've seen positive things from from people like JB McCuskey in West Virginia that that we work with and are able to move things forward or put a block on things that that are detrimental to our constitutional framework that comes out of either the federal government or other states. But then, when you have someone in this powerful law enforcement position in a state like New York, that is a very powerful state, has a lot of resources, and they decide to use that office instead to do something beneficial for the country and for their own citizens, like you know, enforce the law. What are they doing?
They're they're doing political prosecutions. They're trying to find any way possible.
Now she she isn't running this time on. I'm going to get Trump because that's what she won on the first time. But you can tell by what this whistleblower said that that work isn't over. She is still, according to the whistleblower, alleging that the only cases that he sees that they're really pursuing are the political ones—the ones that are going to score points, going after things like Truth Social, going after companies that got federal U.S. Department of Justice approved mergers.
Go see if you can find anything there. Dig into that. It's the same thing she did to President Trump the first time when said, "We think you you overinflated your value and therefore you got a loan." Meanwhile, the bank said, "No, he repaid his loan. There was no issue there. There was no victim here.
There was no victim of that crime." Even a five hundred million dollar judgment. Remember that all that did was really just stop up the President from having to be able to get other things done, and all the issues that would come up was all politically motivated. The idea was to stop him from winning reelection. I think. Anyways, she.
I think your Democrat voters who don't like President Trump in New York should look for the fact that she may be one of the reasons he won the general election because all of the stuff that she put him through was so politically targeted and politically motivated that most people saw right through it and they realized that could be them that you could have someone who just politically motivated decided to target you and if that happens, you kind of riled up a base. You remember that arrest moment, the the mugshot moment, kind of be. A legend; it kind of became a rallying cry to change what was going on.
So, somewhat, this person, Letitia James, is running for attorney general once again in New York. New York is partially to blame for President Trump. If you are on that other side, so maybe this Republican candidate can show a little bit of that.
Now, I don't think again it's going to win you over too many voters, but it's a thought. That's right, and once again, this was a debate for office. There is also other debates that happened around the country last night that you may not have seen. I mean, there is ones in in Iowa for governor. There was a very important one in Michigan for the Senate seat, and where the favorite candidate of the Democrat Socialist El Sayed had some interesting.
Question dodging that took place there, and we'll get to that later in this podcast. We are going to get to it, and we also again are going to give you an update on that homeschooler graduate wants to be a firefighter, very well qualified. You know what happened, but now we got a big update.
So we're going to get to that in the next segment.
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Phone lines are open. I want to hear from you. One eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Want to pivot just a little bit? We are going to keep talking about the Letitia James and the.
Attorney General debate was it was man it was wild. There were some great comments. We're going to play some more of those clips as we go forward. But the ACLJ team, as I said, is really motivated to help people, individuals throughout this country. Because when we help these individuals, especially at no cost, it ends up helping everyone.
And if you're a homeschooler, or maybe a grandparent of homeschooler, a parent of homeschooler, I am. I'm parent of homeschooler, and also a former homeschooler myself. You may get to a situation where A state, a city, decides they don't like homeschoolers because they know there's some connotations to it. Usually, does have to do with their academic excellence. No, of course not.
Usually has to do with the fact that often they are religious, often they have a different set of moral standards. And in this situation, you had a person who was not only well qualified for a position to be a paid firefighter, wanted to be a career firefighter, something that we should be praising.
Someone who, again, already. For multiple years, had been a qualified EMT, certified EMT, had been doing that for a job. One rookie of the year as firefighter, and then when he went to go apply for that position, it said high school diploma. He said, "Sure, I I went to high school." They said, "No, no, no. We meant a accredited high school, which we consider right now in this moment homeschooling." Not to be accredited form of education here in our state.
Now we went really hard on this. I have to say, this was because someone like you tagged me in a post and said, "Logan, the ACLJ needs to get involved in this," and we did.
So first, I want to say thank you. I've gotten some even new ones, and I've passed stuff along to our legal counsel throughout the last few weeks as you all have been tagging me, and I appreciate that. Keep it coming; doesn't bother me at all. Because the stories like this, we can sometimes get handled very quickly.
However, the fallout is sometimes larger.
So you had a situation where the city then. The the actual people, not the not the government, said enough of this. You have put us now as a national disgrace. You have brought national news. You have brought the ACLU to our front door.
Enough with this.
So they went. They changed the rule. They said, you know what? We're going to get rid of that qualification, which they had already added in after the fact.
So remember, they changed it to accredited after they denied him. Quickly, they're like, oh, no one will ever notice. They changed it back, made some new adjustments. Homeschoolers are now allowed to be paid firefighters in the area. We thought, okay, part one win.
He still didn't have a job; still wasn't able to qualify here. And hey, we need to make sure we're protecting homeschoolers nationwide.
So we decided we're going to take this even further.
However, in the meantime, they decided, you know what? We're going to reopen that job position. We're going to reopen the job applications for that position now with our new standard, and we thought, great, the new standard, of course, is that homeschoolers qualify.
However, there's another swerve, as there always is. That's right, and unfortunately for them, but fortunately for our client, we've had to send another letter. Going out today to the city of Fremont because Fremont, Nebraska. Fremont, Nebraska. I need to make sure to clarify because some people say, "Well, Fremont, California." Of course, California.
No, this is Fremont, Nebraska. Nebraska. And here's what happened: they got caught. Tried to make it look like they fixed the problem, and then they moved the goalpost.
So now this position that is opened up that Andrew can apply for is not just the entry level position because he had not been a paid firefighter previously, just volunteer firefighter.
So he would still be in this pool of entry level firefighter position, but they expanded the pool of applicants so.
Now, up to two years of experience, firefighters are eligible for this position, and those individuals. They would make this lateral move can be exempted from some of the testing, like the the written exam, etc. If they want to apply for this position, so it's not as though they got caught. They fixed it at the city level. They still try to say we don't really think there was a problem here.
But fine, we'll change the the written ordinance, etc. And then. They repost the job, and now this job, they make it harder for someone like Andrew to compete for because they expand the pool of applicants. To me. And I'm not the attorney here, but our attorneys that are sending this letter, they're the ones that are getting to the bottom of this, and they're going to continue.
But this seems like a pattern is developing, where hmm, we didn't want the homeschooler the first time, so we just changed the rule and said homeschoolers can't do it.
Now that we got caught and we had to change our rules and go through all of this embarrassment, now we're going to make it harder for the homeschooler to get the job because we're going to open it up to more people, a broader pool of people that maybe want to come work for this fine city of Fremont, Nebraska, and say, look, it's not just an entry level position now.
Now, if you have experience of being a paid firefighter, you can come and make this lateral move to this. Job, this isn't okay. That's why we're sending this let letter today. And they have a deadline here that I'm going to turn to to say that they have to respond and show how they're going to remedy this because this isn't okay. They have no later than October 16th, 2026, to tell us whether or not they're going to agree to the relief that we request, which is to fully restore his opportunity to compete for this position.
Now we know that they may or may not be having some. Discussion. We're going to see if they can get to the right place. Just through this action, if not, they're they're just begging for a federal lawsuit from the ACLU to represent our client Andrew Coates. That's right.
Today we are again going to be sending that demand letter on behalf of Andrew Coates. Again, was denied a chance to apply for the position first because he was homeschooled. And again, not a homeschooler. We're not talking about someone under eighteen. This is someone who's a graduate, multiple years in his twenties.
Doesn't this also like sound so like elementary school childish? Of like you had friends that went to the public school in your Homeschooled and they're like, oh, oh, well, you don't go to real school. You don't go to real school, Andrew. My goodness, it's it's is ridiculous that adults are acting this way. That's right.
But the ACLJ team has taken action, and we are going to be supporting Andrew all the way. And that is only because, again, people like you support. As we wrap up this first half hour, no, we have a second half hour coming up. If you don't get it on your local station, if you're just listening to us, maybe on terrestrial radio, like I know a lot of you still do, we have a full. Television style broadcast live every day, twelve to one p.m.
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It's vital to our success to build that baseline. I would love for you to do it today as we wrap up this week. Whether the ACLJ team is fighting for a homeschool graduate in Nebraska or fighting for the lives of those in Pakistan, the ACLJ team is worldwide, and it's only because people like you support 100 of the finances that come in here to pay for our legal team, pay for our media team, all of it. Is because you donate. Whether that is people who give on a five dollar level, a fifty dollar level, five hundred dollars, whatever it may be, know that it all goes in.
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So again, that that's a great baseline for us. But the ACLJ budget is significantly higher than that because I want when Andrew needs help to be able to jump in, not have to charge him, but for him to have the greatest legal team he can have. I want when you're watching this show to go, wow, that production was great. Wow, they got great commentators, great hosts, great phone screeners. I want that to always be the case here at the ACLJ and production crew as well.
They all kind of looked at me like, why you only giving love to the phone screeners? Phone lines are open though, so be kind to them. One eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. We'll be back in just a minute. This is our short break, under a minute.
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Well, thanks for joining me right now. It's just me and Will. It's a Friday. A couple of great. Phone calls that have called in.
We got a couple lines still open at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. We're talking Latisha James. We're going to be talking about that homeschooler. If you got maybe you have a homeschooler at home, or maybe you had one and you want to make sure he's supported, give me a call. I'd love to hear from you.
Do you think your homeschool graduate or your homeschool student is learning less? The underqualified. Compared to what's going on the public school system in some of these places, give me a call. I'd love to hear from you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Maybe you are one of those homeschool students with your parents' permission.
Give me a call at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. No, a lot of them. I look. I know a lot of homeschoolers historically have been forced to listen to this show each and every day.
So I get it. If you're listening right now, yourself and maybe your children. No, my children aren't forced to listen. They they get enough of me at home. Yeah, that's fair.
But I remember back in the day. I still hear from People are like, my mom would make me listen to your dad show every day at lunch.
So you know what? If you're watching right now, or you're listening, give me a call at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. And we also have an update. Will coming out of our friend Al Sayed. That's right, and we'll get to that more in the next segment.
But he was asked on the debate stage. You want to stay tuned for this, which was a bigger threat to the United States: Iran.
Okay, pretty big threat. Get that? Or do you think it's Russia, China, or Donald Trump, or Donald? None of the above. It was Israel.
Oh, which one do you think? Israel or Iran is a bigger threat to the United States? We don't get to that in the next segment. But we did have a comment from Rumble that was a one of our longtime listeners and frequent commenters and callers was asking why why not just go straight to the lawsuit at this point? You know, we've seen what they.
Did initially, then they had to cover their tracks, and then now they're moving forward by moving the goalposts. Why not go straight to the lawsuit, and why send the demand letter that we're sending today? It's right here. The I think one of the good reasons in a case like this, yeah, many times it is like, yeah, let's go straight to the lawsuit. Like they're not going to change in this situation.
Andrew's wanting to get the job. He's wanting to be considered for a job. You know, if you're a longtime viewer of this broadcast or listener, some as soon as you start that lawsuit process, that can take a long time. We are like thrilled when it only takes a year sometimes to to resolve something that's been in litigation.
So if we're wanting to get the best remedy for the client. Then sometimes that is start with these demand letters and say, "Look, you can fix this for the client. It can set a precedent. It can also put them on notice. But you can fix this for the client right now, and we don't have to get to that stage." We're not afraid to go there, and you know that we will do it if we have to.
But at the end of the day, Andrew just wants to be treated equitably. He wants to have the opportunity to be considered for this job, and they're not even really giving him a fair shake, even to this day. Phone lines are lighting up with homeschool, homeschooler parents, homeschool everything.
So you know what? I think we touched a nerve there. We're going to get to those in the next segment coming up.
So don't go anywhere if you are listening right now. I'd take one right now. I've only got a. Minute in this segment. When we wrap, when we get back, though, I will take calls from you.
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They know what to do. We'll see what happens here coming up. Phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Maybe the clown can represent a homeschooler, Will. Maybe the opposite.
Yeah, I don't know if you want to put that imagery out there, Will. No, we are the clowns, right? Proud clowns. I still don't know. Just for the sake of our client, we don't want to be calling homeschoolers.
He's not a clown. I am down with the clown, but it's fine. Phone lines are open at one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero to get your voice heard on the air today. When we get back, Will and I are going to break that down and that update coming from Al Sayed again. Who's a bigger threat?
Is it you? Is it me? Is it Iran or is it Israel? We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secula.
We got two lines still open at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. We are going to get to a bunch of these calls. Galadimir calling right now about the homeschooler situation. I want to take those, and we're getting more of the Al Sayed stuff coming up later in this segment and next segment. I did want to give you a heads up: Monday's broadcast special start time.
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Everyone's just and I know I was hoping that that I wanted to do that because I'm now controlling all your devices. Oh yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Yeah. We know you can do that. Yeah, let's take some phone calls.
Let's go ahead. Let's go to Dimitro, who's calling in Washington Line Two. You're on the air. Hey, gentlemen, how you doing? Thank you so much for taking my call.
I'm a homeschool parent. We started homeschooling about seven years ago. After we, you know, started having kids, we talked about homeschooling. It was a weird idea for me. I'm from Ukraine originally, U.S.
citizen for 15 years. Thankful to God and the country to be here to enjoy the freedoms we have. Because guess what? In Russia, Ukraine, or Europe, it's impossible to have homeschool.
So to me, it was weird to do homeschooling. But then you know, my church talked a lot about it. We decided to do it. We put you know our our basically my my wife specifically. She put herself on a line.
She put she became a homeschool teacher, even though she has bachelor degree in interior design. She's very well educated, but we've been doing homeschool for seven years. Very successful. For the last few years, we started doing state tests, so just we can see. You know where our kids at, and his grades and everything.
And you know our kids are both bilingual. They do music. They do a lot of stuff. They do business trades. I teach them business.
My my daughter, who's fourteen right now, she at twelve. She started her jewelry business. You know they both serve at our local church. We're part of a big Slavic American community and church in Battleground, Washington.
So I mean, I'm I'm thankful. I'm honestly thankful. At the same time, I'm very honestly, very honestly surprised by this Nebraska situation because, as you know, Washington State is a liberal state. We don't get any incentives from our local government. We we don't get anything.
We pay for schools. My kids will never attend. We pay our taxes, right? For for you know. But we will never get to enjoy those schools or use them, and I don't want, quite frankly, my kids to to learn seventy two genders and a bunch of other liberal agendas.
Demetrio, I I understand. I mean, my kids just recently shifted to being homeschoolers. I was homeschool graduate, did a few years before I graduated homeschooling. I see big benefits, and I do understand that there are certain states that don't like. I'm very thankful and very lucky at this point.
Like I said, to be and A pretty hard red state, you know, being in Tennessee. But I do feel for you that these are the kind of new concerns that maybe when the original sort of boom in homeschooling happened, you know, not talking about like in the '90s, not necessarily even in what would be say the post-COVID era, which I think where a lot of people started shifting. These were not issues that were coming up. It was a very small group of people, and then it's grown and grown and grown. But the ACLU team has always been fighting for homeschoolers, and sometimes these journeys take different ways because now you see whole generations of kids who have grown up in states that still, as you said, don't like it.
Because you have bilingual children at home, you have children that are starting small businesses already.
So do I. And it's pretty amazing to see when a 12-year-old, a 15-year-old, is already starting to come up with different ways to contribute back not only to their society, like you said, helping with their church, whatever may be, but contributing to their society in terms of bringing in economic business. It's pretty wild to see what can be done when we are letting kids be more free and more creative to really change the world.
However, there will always be a group. That does not like it because they did not conform to what the government wants.
Well, and at the state level, why are some states more hostile to homeschooling than others? It's not always the religion factor. I think I think that's what you see when you start to get to local levels and other things. That maybe it's a it's more religious discrimination. But at a state level, why?
And district wide level, why are they discriminating against homeschoolers? Federal money. Department of Education, because your student isn't in that school, they are missing out on federal dollars.
So yes, Demetrio, you're still paying your local taxpayer dollars that that feeds and funds those schools, but systems are greedy. They want more money, and it's not about wanting to educate your child per se. It's about wanting more federal monies to the school, and that's why when we push back, and we've had to push back for so long, defending homeschool and defending school choice in general for Americans—that's a fundamental freedom that we should enjoy here. It's because it's the teachers' unions and it's the states that are just hungry for federal dollars, and it. At the end of the day, they end up caring less and less about the children that they are supposed to be educating, and care more and more about how many grants and federal dollars they can get into their district to to pay more administrative staff and bloat their budgets.
But what are they still doing? They're cutting fine arts. They're cutting programs that benefit children. Just so they can grow their budgets in other administrative areas. I have to say, you know, speaking of school choice, because of course homeschooling is part of that.
But to see that so many of my friends, that I guess we'd say are "quote unquote" liberals, who are Democrat voters, who hated the idea of school choice. Being something that was available, you know, many of them are utilizing it now. And now their kids are not going to school in their district. Maybe some of them are driving an hour away to go to a better school.
Now that the option is there for them, and they're not just—they're just quietly doing this. I see it over and over again.
Now that the doors have been blown open, and they can do it, and they go well. I mean, now that the option is there, sure, we were all about you know we can't abandon our local community, and you're going to make other schools better and worse.
Now that it's their Kids. We see a much, much different story. Or in states like Tennessee, where now there are, it doesn't cover all of tuition if you send your child to a private school or to other. You get something, and it's not the perfect system. It's definitely there are other states that have done it better, but Tennessee is making steps towards it, and they every year start trying to increase it.
Of some of the dollars still being attached to your child instead of to the school district, and that's a big part of school vouchers that that people don't talk about is that it's really just the money. Following the student, not the the school, but when you start to look at how many of those individuals are utilizing those, applying for it when it opens up, there is high demand. All of a sudden, in the city of Nashville, that is a of the state, one of the more liberal cities. When you get in the metropolitan area, all of a sudden, a lot of people applying for these vouchers that they fundamentally disagree with because it's going to ruin the school systems. Yes, or in Florida, I've seen it so tremendously.
Look, phone lines. Are open. We got three lines open right now. We will continue to take calls throughout the next segment. We will give you an update there.
Let's quickly take Bobby in New York on line three. Bobby, go ahead. Hi Logan, hi Will. This is your fellow rascal. I'm confused.
It seems like you guys now are going to have a tough thing to do because if they're changing the job position, don't they have the right to do that? Of course, of course, Bobby. I I hope you guys win because it's very important. And thanks, fellows. Yeah, I mean, Bobby.
Look, there's no you know right to this job in sense of like it does not like they have to give it to him. I think what you can see though is this is targeted harassment or is this targeted. Specifically to him, they're trying to again, as well said, move the goalposts.
So little to do with the job opening, and now more to do with are they essentially targeting this individual? Right, and Bobby, that is, and I'll read a little bit from this letter that we're sending today, which you'll be able to view at aclj.org as well. It's one of the beautiful things about the ACLJ is that we don't hide what we're doing. We're very transparent. We post the blog post and describe it and link right to the.
Documents, but it says when Mr. Coates applied in April 2026, he sought an entry-level firefighter EMT position, and we and would have competed competed only against applicants eligible for that hiring process. After excluding him, the city first formalized the accreditation requirement it had applied to him, and then, after abandoning that policy, did not restore him to the process from which he had been excluded. Instead, it created a materially different hiring. Opportunity by opening the position to lateral candidates, so that's the the legal speak of showing that they aren't treating him fairly.
What did they do? As Logan said, and we said earlier, they moved the goalposts. They made it first prohibitive for him to apply for the position because of where he went to high school.
Now they're making it harder for him to even be able to compete for the job by expanding it. That's their way of trying to get around it, but we're calling them out on it, and hopefully, we'll get a resolution and Andrew can compete for this job. That's right.
Phone lines are open. We're going to take more coming up. One eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. One eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Go ahead and get on hold, and we'll get as many calls as we can in the next segment.
Give you an update from all over the world. We'll be right back for the last segment of the week on Sekulow. Last segment of the day. Last segment of the week. Let's bring it home strong again.
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I mean, there's the ones that are only standard. Take yeah, they don't do the saving. If you're in Phoenix, you got to figure that out yourself. I don't know when it's going to be, but I know it'll be 10:00 a.m. Eastern time.
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All right, with that, let's continue take some phone calls. Craz calling in Texas, go ahead, Craz. Yes, sir. Thank you guys for having me, Craz, over here in Dallas, and I just wanted to express my appreciation for you guys. I used to be one of the one of the guys scrolling their phone on work, and now I look forward to tuning into the radio.
Like I mentioned, I'm 30 years old. I'm planning on proposing to my girlfriend next month, and I'm starting to really think about the next 10, 15, 20 years—not just for me, for my future wife, but for our future children as well.
So, really appreciate you guys shedding light on the issues that others won't talk about. Because if these problems continue to fester for 10, 15, 20 years, it'll just be too late.
So, really appreciate you guys shedding the spotlight on some of these issues rather than sweeping them under the rug like everyone else. And I've You've earned a lifetime blister. Awesome, Craig. Thank you so much. This is a kind call.
I appreciate your feedback. Appreciate your support.
Sounds like we scripted that. I assure you, we did not. Craig just decided to call in. If you ever want to call in, by the way, makes us feel good.
So it's always happy to hear when there are new people who are listening and supporting. But what I think is different will always be different about this show. Unlike everyone else, is that we don't just come on here and complain. We come on here. We we sometimes complain, but then.
We show you the path to resolution. We show you the path to fixing the problem, and often, most of the time, the ACLJ is involved in that fix of the problem.
So the same people that are presenting you this show are also presenting you the legal side of what we do here around the world.
So it's not just about complaining about it; it's about showing you a path to change.
So again, I want to thank Cray for calling in because that is something that we hear from time to time. It's always nice. I want Cray to call back. Back in though, and update us after he proposes, to his girlfriend. Yeah, well, just let us know.
We know she doesn't listen, so we can say congratulations, right? Yeah. So I mean, thanks, Craig. We appreciate you calling. Let's continue on.
Cynthia is calling another homeschool situation. Cynthia in Connecticut. Go ahead.
Okay. Hello. I am calling because I want you to know that thirty years ago. I was not liking what my kids were coming home from school with, and they were in third and fifth grades. And I was praying, got on my knees, and I'm praying about homeschooling these kids.
And I really didn't want to do it, but I felt like I perhaps needed to. And I got up off the floor in my living room, went into my kitchen, put on the radio, and it's Jay Sekulow's program on the radio. And the caller, somebody was calling in with a question about homeschooling, and I started to cry because this man was saying. I don't want my question to discourage anybody who's thinking about homeschooling because it's the best thing that's ever happened to my I've ever done for my family, and I just knew I had to homeschool my boys then, and I thank God that I did because, and I thank God for that program because I did, and I homeschooled them. I took them out of school at fifth and third grades.
They finished the fifth grade, the third grade, and then I homeschooled the my oldest. Boy finished high school at home, and he was accepted to the Coast Guard Academy in Groton, Connecticut, or New London, Connecticut. And he's an officer in the Coast Guard, getting ready to to retire soon. And I have another boy who went to high school in the eleventh grade because he wanted to play sports and. He didn't want to be home alone with mom all day long anymore.
Yeah. So anyway, when he went to school, he took the PSAT. He got the PSAT letter or whatever, you know, and and he graduated with very high scores and whatever. Went to USC and is an accountant. He's CPA and lives in Los Angeles.
And I'm just, I just want to encourage parents that. Thirty years ago, my kids were hearing bad things in school, and I know it's a lot worse now than it ever was before. And that that you know, if you're being nudged to homeschool your kids, do it. It's not it's not easy, but It's very worthwhile, and and if you have bright students, they can finish their schoolwork in a fraction of the time that they would spend in school.
Well, Cynthia, first number one, thank you. What an amazing caller, and the fact that you are still even listening all these years later, 30 years later, means the world to me personally. I'm sure that was around the time my parents decided whether I was going to be. I was asking to be homeschooled. My kids, look, they had been in traditional school for their entire run until this year, and we decided, look.
I understand. It is not for everyone. Homeschooling is not for everyone. I don't want to put that out there, but it is something. If you feel like you are called to do, that it could change.
Like my kids were in a great school, Christian school, but still, like you said, we're learning and hearing things that I was not thrilled with, and a lot of that has come to light. Honestly, even more so as they've been home and spending time with us, as I start kind of you know peeling back the onion of really what was going on. And sometimes you go, oh man, they had some great people. I love so many of them, but there are.
Some situations that you can't believe happens to your kids when they are out of your sight.
Now that being said, again, it like. Schooling and all these different things. Here is one of the big differences, though, Cynthia, from when you homeschooled and when I was homeschooled and when Will was homeschooled, is you don't have to do it alone anymore. A lot of what kids can learn is online. There are a lot of great places that offer an online version of education, where at least can supplement some of what's going on.
So if you don't feel like you are a teacher at heart, or you don't feel like you really have that part of your skill set or personality that can do that, there are a lot of new options. Technology has improved and it has changed the way kids can learn, and I have to say firsthand that it's amazing. But Cynthia, thank you. I am so appreciative for your call. It means the world to me to know that you're still out there listening and that your kids have had such an amazing life, an amazing journey.
And thanks to them, and thanks to you, I really appreciate it. Should take the last call of the day. Yeah, let's go to Patrick calling from Minnesota on line two. Patrick, welcome to Sekulow. Hi, hi.
I got to make. I turned on my radio. Can you hear me?
Okay, I'm coming down the road. I got the hands free.
So I have somewhat of a comment, but I'm a I'm a 20 plus year paramedic, and I work closely with the firefighters. And I can tell you when you're when you're in a car and the firefighters are cutting the person out, you're in there with the person. You don't care where they got their medical diploma. You care about whether or not they know what they're doing. And this person sounds Like they've done the work, it's a passion in his heart, and he's he's he's doing what he's called to do.
I'm actually grateful that this fight came up, because now you guys are able to fight, and you guys do such great great work. I actually used to donate way back to Jay Sekulow Live back in the early two thousand. I haven't really listened, but I'll be listening a little more now. Patrick, I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
We only got a minute left, so unfortunately, I'm just gonna have to cut you off there. But I appreciate your work. Number one is a paramedic. I think that's very important. I think you are right.
We should be praising people that want to take these kind of positions, especially ones that are overly qualified to do it. The fact that they want to probably they kind of could have picked a more lucrative career. Probably could have picked something that's different, but decided they wanted to give back to their community in many different ways, and would love a career as a firefighter.
So of course, we're gonna support them specifically if they are homeschoolers as well. Like you said, when you are in that situation, you're not thinking about. I wonder where they went to high school. I'll tell you, this is someone who hires people from time to time. I don't think I've ever looked where anyone has graduated from high school.
I frankly do not care. With that being said, got 24 seconds left. I want you to support the work of the ACLJ so we can keep this rolling. Whether that's for students. Homeschoolers, homeschool graduates, the parents, grandparents, and then of course all of the efforts the ACLJ does all around the world.
Some of them life or death. It is because people like you support.
So as we wrap up this week at aclj.org, remember special start time 10 a.m. Eastern on Monday.
