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Welcome to Sekulow. It's Friday folks and we've made it. As the month of June starts to wrap down, and we look forward to the celebration of America's 250th anniversary, just a week away from really the festivities kicking off. But as we look ahead, we know that we've had a busy summer already. We've had so much happening, whether it be the Iran war, whether it be the kerfluffle over the reflecting pool that has had so many people outraged, who are also the fraud that the government is rooting out and actually doing something about for once.
Or maybe it's about those that are sweeping the elections in New York that happen to be socialists. These are things that are happening, even though many of us are just trying to have a wonderful summer, just trying to enjoy the beautiful weather that here we have in the summer. But we don't take off. We have to keep watching and fighting and standing up for what we believe in. And I think it's an important time, as we even talked about earlier this week, that sometimes when you start to see Things like the sweep of socialist candidates in New York, or you start to wonder, you know, is there going to be real justice for those that are defrauding American taxpayers?
It is easy. And I see it in the comments. I see people that get disheartened. With where we're at, that even these billions of dollars of fraud is even capable of happening in this day and age, that the government wasn't doing more for it. But I always want to point people back to our founding, our founding documents.
And it's the perfect time to be thinking about that as we approach the 250th birthday of the country. Read the Declaration of Independence this weekend. Read the Constitution this weekend. Uh read some of the other writings of the Founding Fathers and really what they believed in this country, in this American experiment, what greatness could come from it. And there's a reason it wasn't we are creating a perfect union.
They say to create a more perfect union. They understand that the refinement of the country as we are flawed humans. That makes up this country, that it will always be a process of. Becoming a more perfect union.
So I encourage you, you know, don't get disheartened. Be positive about the future of America. I am. And it's sometimes hard when the only thing you listen to, which I know none of you would, but just me, as I read headlines and see what they're trying to say, making America this horrible place. When in reality, it's not.
It is the greatest country on earth, and we are so blessed by our Creator. Not just with the rights that he has endowed us with, that we learn about from our founding documents. but also that we are blessed to live in the greatest country on earth. But that doesn't mean that living in this country isn't without challenges. And you're going to hear commentary from throughout this week.
On a lot of these topics that I've just kind of referenced here off the top. A lot of times during the summer, we do this. We take a deep dive back into some of the wonderful content we've had this week.
So I encourage you to stay tuned, share this broadcast with your friends as we give an encore presentation of many of these segments that we thought were so powerful and impactful for you to see this week. We want to make sure you don't miss it. But it's also a time that as we understand there are battles ahead, there are fights ahead for the organization like the ACLJ, we will not stop fighting. Whether it be for students that are being targeted at their schools, whether it be Supporting laws, filing briefs in different jurisdictions to try and uphold. our Constitution or even laws that can help make a more perfect union.
That is what we do here at the ACLJ. And when we file these briefs, or when we support these families. We do it at no cost to the client. And that's a key. Differential.
for our organization. is that we will fight for these individuals. When they may feel like they have no other place to turn, they can turn to the ACLJ and the ACLJ members and champions, because without you, none of this work is possible. Support our work at aclj.org and we'll be right back with more on Sekulow. Welcome back to Speculo.
We're talking about. the individuals that were sentenced yesterday a hundred years for Benjamin Song, who was the ringleader, they said, of this Antifa cell. Here's what we have to say. This is a good day. This is a good day for justice when you have individuals that were trying to carry out a terroristic attack.
They had plotted this. They have all their encrypted messaging in the DOJ's press release on this. They had the evidence. They took them to trial. They got convictions and they got justice.
They got prison terms. This is how. The United States justice system should work, right? This is good. This should give everyone that is losing faith in the system a boost today: that, hey, look, when people do bad things, They go to jail.
There is accountability. That that helps rebuild trust in our system. But here's also the problem. Is that you have A sitting congresswoman Who spoke out on this? Put a a post on X.
that uh was very displeased, I'll say, with the sentences that were handed down more than four hundred and fifty years among the eight of them, eight or nine of them that that received sentences yesterday. Here's what Rashida Tlaib had to say. These sentences are a travesty and totally unjustified. But that's the point. Americans hate the fascist Trump regime.
So the only way they can try to cling to power is brute force. NSPM 7, that's National Security Presidential Memorandum 7, is a grave threat to all of us and more. Expletive. Terrorism charges like these are coming. Let that sink in.
The National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 is really talking about when the President designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. It's kind of a national security memorandum of how they are treating the group, obviously, as domestic terrorists. And a lot of that had to do with how the. Sentences here were elevated because it was terrorism related.
Now I'm certain that Congresswoman Tlaib has never seen violence that was prosecuted from maybe a different perspective. That should have been prosecuted. Uh, that was not domestic terrorism, right? She would have not said something like January 6th was domestic terrorism.
Now, there are many different angles to take on that, but the danger of a sitting congresswoman. calling out where They went with over fifty firearms. Not something normally the left is is super protective of. They planned this. On the body camera, this was introduced at trial, you can overhear the man who shot a police officer in the neck.
yelling to his Uh compatriots. Get to the rifles. This was a staged attack on a detention facility. They knew that it was planned out. It wasn't chaos.
It wasn't what do we do next. It was. We first rush up and we cause chaos so they don't know what's happening. And then when they start to respond, We get to the rifles. That's an ambush.
That you don't take 50 firearms and yell to your group, barking orders at them to get to the rifles. Because you just want to scare them. Their entire intention here was violence and death. against people they didn't know, but their fellow Americans.
So when you see a congresswoman say things like These sentences are a travesty and totally unjustified, but that's the point. That Americans hate the fascist Trump regime, so the only way they can cling to power is by brute force. No, the brute force here. Isn't Sending Benjamin Song to prison for 100 years. And you know what?
He gets due process. He gets to go through, he went through a 12-day trial. He was convicted by a jury of his peers and got this sentence handed down because that's how it works in our system. And then you know what he also gets? The ability to file appeals after this, because that's how it works in our system.
The brute force are those that disagree with a political policy. immigration policy And they decide to organize themselves. acquire an arsenal and attack Law enforcement. at a detention facility. And once they've gotten their attention, yell, Get to the rifles.
That's the brute force. Not a hundred-year prison sentence for a domestic terrorist. But this should give you hope in this era of uncertainty, where our justice system has suffered many setbacks of the confidence of the American people. Whether it's been judges that have seemed to be making policy or legislating from the bench. Where you've seen the nationwide injunction issue trying to stop every single thing the administration does.
It has given the American people this sense of you can't do anything. But you can, because our Constitution is strong. We're about to celebrate 250 years. of the Declaration of Independence. And I do truly believe we can see another 250 years.
But it's not by abandoning our principles. It's not by saying. Nothing will ever happen. It's by engaging. It's by getting back to the root of that.
It's by maybe picking up the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and reading it. Just so it's fresh on your mind as we get to this 250. Because that is how we survive another 250 years. But the onslaught's coming. Last night told us this.
If you watched any of the results that came out in New York from their primary. Because at the same time, you have someone like Rashida Tlaib. Calling out and lamenting over these prison sentences for domestic terrorists, a sitting congresswoman lamenting. These prison sentences You see a wave of democratic socialists, as they call themselves, winning primaries against incumbent. Democrats In New York.
Three individuals supported by the mayor there.
Socialist Zoran Mondami. This is a moment of reflection for everyone, and it shouldn't. Scare you. It shouldn't terrify you because we are strong. We have a strong foundation, but we have to cling to that.
We have to cling to these founding principles. Because now we're seeing it's not just a mayor of a city in the United States, a very important one. But now it's potentially three more socialists in the House of Representatives. And it wasn't just that. You saw state representative races as well.
The Democrat Socialists of America in New York City celebrated last night. as one of their candidates, one for New York State Senate District 12. And this was their post. Palestine was on the ballot, and now a Palestinian-American Democratic Socialist is going to Albany. This is exactly who New Yorkers need fighting for them in the state senate because socialists get it done.
I feel like they're setting themselves up for a parody there of socialists get it done and just going through all the atrocities that have happened over the course of. The world history at the hands of communists and socialists. And then with the tag, socialists get it done. That's what they're setting themselves up for. But people forget where we've come from, and people forget what we're rooted in.
And now's the time to read it.
Now's the time to get back to those basics. That's why the term conservative has been seen as like a stuffy term. But it is about conserving what makes America great. And that is our foundational principles. It's not a living document, it is the foundation of which we build upon.
So, I think that this is a very good time to remember that as we see. Yes, our justice system does work. This is a good moment. But it's also a warning moment. Because of what we see happening in New York and around the world.
not just in our country. Where people that decide to be disengaged And it's like, yeah, these may be my principles, but no one else believes them anymore.
So I'm just going to walk away from the process. I'm just going to think our justice system doesn't work anymore. I'm just going to think, eh, New York's a lost cause. No, it's not. This is America.
So, don't become one of these conservative nihilists that you see everywhere on social media and YouTube and trying to bog you down. Get excited about our country again. Be like those Europeans that you see on social media that are experiencing real America. Not New York, LA, Miami, Disney, America. They are experiencing real America and they love it.
They're excited about it. That's what we stand for. That's what we fight for. That's why we have this foundational root in America that is so great. And we can't let it go away.
As Benjamin Franklin said, a republic if we can keep it. And we can. but not if we disengage from the process. Folks, we'll be right back. We're going to be talking about a case that the ACLJ is now fighting right now.
It's something I've been talking about a lot this week because the deadline is tomorrow. for this school and we will talk with Christy when we come back. Welcome back to Sekulow, Will Haynes here. I'm joined now by Christy Compognone, who is in our DC office and joining us from our studio there, one of our senior attorneys. And I thought it was important to bring her on today because we've been talking a little bit about this all week.
You heard me and Jordan talk about it on Monday, yesterday. I brought it up a little bit as well. It's wonderful to have Christy on with this because She's actually been representing this family and this little girl since the first instance when she was in second grade.
So it's wonderful that our attorneys not only get to defend these families and stand up for these families once, but also develop a relationship with them and trust, build that trust bond with these families of like, listen, the ACLJ's got your back. And Christy, this is that remarkable story where three times now, this is becoming a harassing pattern by this school district and different schools at this point because of elementary and middle, but where this little girl is being silenced and forced to violate her faith at school, something that the ACLJ has fought since our founding against. School districts and schools that try to tell children Your rights under the First Amendment, they go away as soon as you walk on public school property. Tell us a little bit about this family and just what you've gotten to know about them over the years as you've represented them through these multiple counts of really harassment at this point. Yes, our client is just the sweetest 12-year-old that I have ever experienced.
She knows exactly what her beliefs are. She believes in Jesus and she is going to continue to share his good word with everyone that will listen. And she stands up for what is right.
So, this went back all the way to when she was in elementary school and was searched at the door of her elementary school coming in, where the principal would remove her Christian tracts out of her backpack and confiscate them.
So, we stepped in back then with a demand letter because that was so outrageous. And the school district affirmed that that will never happen again. We don't need to worry about it.
Well, sure enough, this year, now that she's in the middle school of the same school district as a sixth grader, she was told, she was pulled out of a classroom and told by the vice principal that she has to, again, stop talking about her religion and stop handing out Christian tracts because people were uncomfortable with it. And so, she knew better and she said, I need to call the ACL. Jay, I need to speak to Christy. And so we helped her through back in March. And we told the school district this is outrageous.
This is against all of her constitutional rights. She is Absolutely allowed to share her faith as long as it's not disturbing the classroom. And again, we got a response that says, You're right, we're so sorry, this will not happen again. But here's the thing. It's gotten worse, and it's clear that they have some kind of animus against her because of her Christian beliefs.
Because there was now an assembly, one that her parents have opted her out of in the past. And so, as soon as she was sitting in there and started to hear the content, knowing it was against her religious beliefs and she should not be listening to it, she told her teacher, like she always does: I should not be here. I don't feel comfortable, I want to leave. They pulled her out and that teacher told the rest of the teachers, oh, she has to go to the bathroom. An interesting lie to try to get her out of the situation.
But unfortunately, the bathrooms were closed.
So she was standing in the hallway when another teacher approached her, said, What's wrong? And she explained again, I don't feel comfortable being in there. This is against what my parents have taught me, and I don't want to go back in. And that teacher said, well, you have no other choice. You have to go back in.
So our sweet client was shuffled back into her class and she sat there for 30 minutes sobbing, avoiding her eyes, trying to not listen with her ears along with her best friend because she was forced to sit through this 30-minute assembly that was against her religious beliefs. And so, I mean, they didn't ever call her parents. They didn't send anything home with her that day. And so the first her parents heard of it was when she got in the car and said, we have to call the ACLJ.
So we talked with her that very night. I think it's important to reiterate, and I'll get right back to you, Christy, but when you talk about a 12-year-old girl, that now this is the third time this has happened to her from her school, one, the courage that she has. to not just abandon what she knows is right. When the the heavy arm of the school is is pushing her, trying in every way to get her to abandon that. I mean, that's the goal.
That's the end game. But I also think it's interesting you bring up that she wasn't allowed to talk to friends. She wasn't allowed to socialize and talk about her beliefs because it made others feel uncomfortable. But then, when she told them, I feel uncomfortable, you have no choice. This is the school.
You have to. Do this. You aren't allowed to feel uncomfortable. And also, the irony of knowing that where all of this ideology comes from, hearing a teacher say you have no choice, that irony is not lost on me. But, Christy, we've sent a letter as a lot of times it's difficult.
As a parent, when you're trying to make this choice, you want The smoothest path, the path of least resistance for your child who's in middle school. And so you want just the school to do the right thing, but the school is on notice. If they don't respond appropriately to this letter, Uh they're going to be facing the ACLJ in federal court. Arguably one of our biggest cases because we're going to bring back all of these circumstances going back to the past and building this argument that this isn't about the assembly. The school has taken a religious animus.
Against our client for her beliefs. And they are targeting her and discriminating against her time and time and again. And so I think, yes, this demand letter, she's only 12. The parents are trying to protect her the best they can, but they are guns blazing for if the school doesn't relent, we're going hard with a complaint next week. First thing next week, we are going to explain not just the First Amendment element of this, but they are literally breaching Supreme Court precedent from just a year ago with Mahmoud.
This is clear-cut precedent that they are violating right now.
Well, and once again, we will be bringing you the updates on this. And we are so grateful here for attorneys like Christy and the entire team that fight so diligently for these clients. But it's not just the. amazing team of attorneys we have here at the ACLJ. On the amazing broadcast team that we have here at the ACLJ to come to you every day and talk about this.
It's because of you, ACLJ supporters and champions, that we're able to do this. I mean, just imagine having to fight, hire an attorney three times for your daughter from second grade to sixth grade. The cost of that to try to fight for your rights would be staggering. and they don't have to pay a penny. The ACLJ provides this service with the best attorneys in the country.
for zero dollars to that family. They can get back to. I mean, it's a stressful time as it is. Your daughter is being targeted by a school. But they don't have to worry about that financial burden to fight it.
Because of you. Because you join the ACLJ and you stand not just with us here. We're the unimportant ones in this. You stand with that little girl. You stand with her who has the courage to not give up on the things her parents have taught her.
The solid roots and foundation they've given her. When she's just talking to friends about Jesus and they're being told, you can't say that here. She knows better. She's been taught better. And she will fight it.
I can't think of many people that could have that kind of courage. after repeated harassment by authority figures. It's remarkable. But we can't do this great work without you.
So, know that when you give to the ACLJ, when you give one time or monthly as an ACLJ champion, That's what your money does. It stands with that girl. It tells her her courage is not for nothing. That there are Thousands and thousands and thousands of Americans that see her. And they are standing with her and aren't going to let people just destroy her rights.
That is the future of America right there. That courage. And you can stand with her today at aclj.org. Donate today. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever.
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It's Friday folks and we've made it. As the month of June starts to wrap down, and we look forward to the celebration of America's 250th anniversary, just a week away from really the festivities kicking off. But as we look ahead, we know that we've had a busy summer already. We've had so much happening, whether it be the Iran war, whether it be the kerfluffle over the reflecting pool that has had so many people outraged, who are also the fraud that the government is rooting out and actually doing something about for once. Or maybe it's about those that are sweeping the elections in New York that happen to be socialists.
These are things that are happening, even though many of us are just trying to have a wonderful summer, just trying to enjoy the beautiful weather that here we have in the summer. But we don't take off. We have to keep watching and fighting and standing up for what we believe in. And I think it's an important time, as we even talked about earlier this week, that sometimes when you start to see Things like the sweep of socialist candidates in New York, or you start to wonder, you know, is there going to be real justice for those that are defrauding American taxpayers? It is easy.
And I see it in the comments. I see people that get disheartened. With where we're at, that even these billions of dollars of frauds are even capable of happening in this day and age, that the government wasn't doing more for it. But I always want to point people back to our founding, our founding documents. And it's the perfect time to be thinking about that as we approach the 250th birthday of the country.
Read the Declaration of Independence this weekend. Read the Constitution this weekend. Read some of the other writings of the founding fathers and really what they believed in this country, in this American experiment, what greatness could come from it. And there's a reason it wasn't we are creating a perfect union. They say to create a more perfect union.
They understand that the refinement of the country as we are flawed humans. That makes up this country, that it will always be a process of. Becoming a more perfect union.
So I encourage you, you know, don't get disheartened. Be positive about the future of America. I am. And it's sometimes hard when the only thing you listen to, which I know none of you would, but just me, as I read headlines and see what they're trying to say, making America this horrible place. When in reality it's not.
It is the greatest country on earth, and we are so blessed by our Creator. Not just with the rights that he has endowed us with, that we learn about from our founding documents. But also that we are blessed to live in the greatest country on earth. But that doesn't mean that living in this country isn't without challenges. And you're going to hear commentary from throughout this week.
On a lot of these topics that I've just kind of referenced here off the top. A lot of times during the summer, we do this, we take a deep dive back into some of the wonderful content we've had this week.
So I encourage you to stay tuned, share this broadcast with your friends as we give an encore presentation of many of these segments that we thought were so powerful and impactful for you to see this week. We want to make sure you don't miss it. But it's also a time that as we understand there are battles ahead, there are fights ahead for the organization like the ACLJ, we will not stop fighting. Whether it be for students that are being targeted at their schools, whether it be Supporting laws, filing briefs in different jurisdictions to try and uphold. our Constitution or even laws that can help.
make a more perfect union. That is what we do here at the ACLJ. And when we file these briefs, or when we support these families. We do it at no cost to the client. And that's a key.
Differential. for our organization. is that we will fight for these individuals. When they may feel like they have no other place to turn, they can turn to the ACLJ and the ACLJ members and champions because without you, none of this work is possible. Support our work at aclj.org and we'll be right back with more on Sekulow.
Welcome back to Sekulow Will Haynes in studio today. And folks, if you want to talk to me on air, call me at 1-800-684-3110. I'm the only one in studio today. I have Rick Rinnell coming up a little bit later. But we're talking about what just happened with the Department of Justice unveiling this new $6.5 billion health care fraud crackdown.
This is 455 indictments, 455 charges against among this 90 medical professionals and targets that arrange from healthcare fraud schemes such as wound care and opioid distribution, includes a record number of Medicaid fraud defendants with more than 100 people accused of submitting over $100 million in false Medicaid claims. We're talking about this. We've also talked about the $14 billion that happened last year where they uncovered it. These are very large indictments that they're doing at one time, but it also goes to show that they are continuously working on this, that it takes time for them to investigate and root out all of this fraud. It also begs the question of why we weren't seeing this much to this scale under previous administrations.
We do know that it's not like that the Trump administration never cared about this. Back in 2017, they did something similar in his first term. 412 defendants were charged with $1.3 billion in alleged losses.
So a high number of defendants, but not as much money taken as we see here. This also, we see that there was in 2024 193 defendants charged. This is a problem in the United States. We know this. One thing that I've said is that.
The Expansion of Medicaid and Medicare that happened under the Obamacare scheme. Yeah, it is this is the fruit of it. We called out, we were saying that, okay, that was the biggest number of people that were able to get on health insurance under Obamacare was the expansion of Medicaid. That was the basis. It wasn't the individual mandate.
It wasn't the exchange program. It was through Medicaid. And what we're seeing is how many, now that we've had time to have investigative reporting on this, you're seeing how many, even those numbers of people that got onto Medicaid were fraudulent. They were sometimes people that had no idea they had health care. Because of the way that this, there were so few checks and balances, so few fraud determining mechanisms that they could catch this before it happened.
That in the end of the day, what Obamacare ended up doing was drive up your health care costs as well as steal your money. You're getting hit twice as an American taxpayer because the health care costs for everyone went up. In many cases, you didn't get to keep your doctor as Obama promised. And you're seeing now that it was so ripe for fraud. They were just able to go in there and just take money.
And that's what we're seeing. And they're finally cracking down on it. But I think that even the crackdowns, if there are not real legislative reforms that come after to fix the loopholes that these fraudsters are using, they're clearly going to keep doing it. That's a problem. This is a country that has trillions of dollars in debt.
that the Republicans and Democrats in Congress can't come together on anything. There's no foreseeable seeable future with a balanced budget. They're going to keep spending, but on top of that How are you ever going to get to those problems when what we have right now Is a system that allows people just to steal and steal and steal and enrich themselves off of your money. That's fraudulently taken. But I also think that it's the media doing a disservice to us as well.
Because what have you heard about? For weeks now. About The reflecting pool. And I mean, the daily from the New York Times did a whole expose on it. We don't know if this is going to work.
We don't know where this money is going for. Is this a waste of money? It cost $14 million, which is a lot of money. I mean, for anyone. Here in this studio watching this broadcast.
It's a lot of money for an individual, but for restoring a monument, sounds about right. Obama tried to fix it. George W. Bush tried to fix it. Reagan tried to fix it.
It's a very old piece of concrete. that has had many Presidents try to fix it. It was leaking in bad disrepair. To completely rebuild it, is what a lot of people have said would cost hundreds of millions of dollars.
So $14 million, they tried something. And everyone is celebrating what may be a failure, what may not be a failure. There's some vandalism, but that's front page news. At the Washington Post. That's leading nightly news broadcast with sending anchors.
to the reflecting pool to report on this. Is this news right here, this DOJ crackdown, is it the front page? On Washington Post right now? No, not on their website. Iran cast doubts on nuclear inspections.
Vance said what happened.
So, trying to ding the administration on that. Um In the trending articles, you see, they're talking about a record heat in France. Rooftop Solar Subscriptions Reflecting pool ducks COVID vaccine study, Kennedy Center, and McDonald's fried apple pie. Where's this? The Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services taking down $6.5 billion in healthcare fraud.
What's this Reflecting Pool Duck story? I'm interested, right? Because. It's trending on Washington Post. That's gotta be a big deal, especially when there's something out there about the government taking down $6.5 billion in healthcare fraud, 455 people.
The ducks have gotta be a bigger deal if that's trending, right? Here's the headline from that. I'm going to click through. doing this in real time for you. A dead duck was seen in the reflecting pool.
Then two more were found nearby.
Someone Was paid two people actually. This is two people on this byline from the Washington Post. to write this article. It took two journalists Quotes. Journalists.
To right. A dead duck was seen in the reflecting pool, then two more were found nearby.
Meanwhile, There's nothing on their website about this fraud. This is a good thing for every American. I don't care what age.
Social background. Your income status. This is a good. News story. This is positive.
It's negative that $6.5 billion was stolen from taxpayers, but it is a good news story that the Department of Justice and the Health and Human Services Department are going after fraud in our government. Waste, fraud, and abuse. That's part of the reason that President Trump was elected. Even if you didn't like a lot of his policies, or you didn't like his personality, or you didn't think he was conservative enough, or you didn't think he was liberal enough, or whatever. People were excited by the fact that someone was finally saying.
Maybe we should look at all the waste fraud and abuse in our government. And what were we told? Doge is bad. It's going to kick people off their health care. They're going to lose their government benefits.
There's no real fraud problem. We see indictments. It's fine. Nothing to see here. How dare you shut down USAID?
There's no way that it was funneling money to places and things that no American would want to fund around the world. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you? And they filed lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit.
To get things shut down, to slow the work down, to stop it effectively. Yeah. But the government didn't stop, and the agenda didn't stop to go after fraud. And we're seeing that, and that's a good thing. That's something to celebrate.
As we sit here on the precipice of the 250th anniversary of this country, A legacy item would be something where you are able to drastically. expose the fraud in this country And wipe it out as much as possible, fix the loopholes, and also put fraudsters on notice that it's not an easy payday. That that's a good legacy item. But meanwhile, we are getting headlines from the Washington Post about a dead duck. One.
Seen in the reflecting pool, and then two others were found nearby.
So, this true crime story from the Washington Post is about three dead ducks. That's the mystery of the decades.
Meanwhile, 455 indictments were announced this morning. I keep refreshing the page, hoping that this will pop up somewhere. That they have someone writing about this because this is a big story. The reflecting pool is peanuts compared to that. Yeah, it it that may not have worked.
The reflecting pool, right? But it also, the people that are championing and celebrating a failure of something that's trying to make something look better. in saying you wasted $14 million of our taxpayer money.
Well, why don't you talk about the 6.5 billion that was being stolen from you? Because One drastically outweighs the other. I'm going to take your phone calls starting in the next segment. Give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you.
Do you think this is a good thing? Or do you think I'm overblowing this? Is this something I got excited when I saw this in our team? We were like, oh, this is really good news. They're doing this again.
It's not even a one-and-done headline like a few weeks ago when they announced a big fraud crackdown. This keeps going.
So let me know. Call me at 1-800-684-3110 or leave a comment on YouTube or Rumble. And if you can, support the work of the ACLJ at aclj.org. Welcome back to Sekulow, final segment of the broadcast. I'm going to get right to your phone calls.
I've got two lines open if you want to try to join us, 1-800-684-3110. But I've got some great calls I'm about to jump into. But I wanted to give a little bit more information as we've covered a lot today about even what I was saying about the Obamacare fraud situation. This is not including all the medical device payments, all this other billing and things that have been able to just go rampant during all this fraud that we're uncovering, but that I argue was enabled by the expansion of Medicaid Under Obamacare. But this is just from uh June 2nd of this year.
That is twenty-one days ago. Right? This is in the Wall Street Journal, and it's talking about this study from Paragon Health Institute, which is a think tank about health issues. It says that Paragon estimates that at least 6.2 million This year. Are improperly enrolled in heavily subsidized Obamacare plans.
That's little changed from last year, so about the same amount. And roughly 25% of all signups. 25% of all signups are improperly enrolled. A quarter. at six point two, and that's the same as last year.
Taxpayers will fund up to twenty five billion dollars in improper subsidy payments this year because enrollees or insurance agents misstated income to qualify for bigger subsidies, et cetera. There's a lot more to go in to this. But The whole Program. was ripe for fraud, And so it's not just the subsidies that the American people are paying. It's the fraud we're paying as well.
Plus How much more health care costs now? It has risen dramatically. You couldn't keep your doctor.
So many people exited the field because it was absurd.
So, when I say that a lot of this fraud, all these indictments are tied to Obamacare. That's not me making a political statement against anything Barack Obama did, as I think the caller was trying to pull out. It's just saying that we called it like that back then, that this is going to be ripe for fraud. And It's one of those, like, I don't want to say I told you so on this because it's not good for anyone. There's not a single person that benefits in this country.
From this, except for fraudsters, but hopefully now, not even they are benefiting because they are going to prison. All right, let's go back to the phones. We got Joe in California on line two. Joe, you're on Sekulow. Hey, good morning.
Thank you for taking my call. It's the first time I. called into your show, but I've listened for quite a while and I enjoy it. My question is, and I don't want to seem racist or any kind of prejudice. But with the World Cup here, and it's great, there's a lot of foreign people here that have discovered a lot of things about the U.S., ranch.
You know, Chick-fil-A sandwiches. Oh, it's one of my favorite things seeing how much people are celebrating. The non-New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Disney, Las Vegas America. Like, that's what I think the world thinks America is, but the real America, they're loving it.
So keep going, though. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's great. And they're probably finding the same frustrations we are that Chick-fil-A is not open on Sunday. You know, a hot day after church, you want a chicken sandwich with some waffle fries and a large refreshing lemonade, and you can't get it.
So I'm sure they're finding that frustration. Sure. But my question is. With this. six plus billion dollar broad scheme that was reported I live in California, Central California.
We own a real estate and construction company, and we come across A lot of foreign people that are doing great and doing well. They're business owners. We come across. A lot that you're wondering, how can you afford this on a dentist's salary? Um A lot of what we see, I know, is fraud.
California is filled with fraud. Fires, Flooding, they wanted to give them two proposals, one for FEMA and then one for the cost of what the construction would really be.
So I know there's fraud everywhere, but with this New discovery. Has anybody ever thought of checking to see? How many Foreign And these are that 400 plus that were found indicted. Joe, I'm going to jump in here because I'm going to get to a couple other calls. But I think, one, you're looking at 455 across 57 different federal court districts involving 46 state Medicaid fraud control units.
So that's basically the whole country. I don't think here, and as I said earlier, this isn't a one conspiracy. This is just they were able to unleash all this at one time. I don't think there's a through line on any sort of like immigrant group, as I think is what you're asking. I actually think it's a little bit of a disservice.
That the Uh what we saw Um coming from Minnesota. That it was only focused on the Somali community. Obviously, there was an issue there within the Somali immigrant community where they had found the daycare system was able to easily access these funds. And it also made an easy talking point from the left of saying you're just as xenophobic because you're going after all Somalis. I think that does a disservice to what the DOJ is doing here because I think it is so widespread that it is equal opportunity fraud.
It is not just one community or such that has decided this is the way to do it.
So I think it's also, we need to be careful about that, not falling into that trap of thinking, oh, if it was happening in Minnesota, this fraud everywhere is just one immigrant community. In reality, I think it is so heavily exploited by so many different people from all sorts of backgrounds, a lot of them that are just Americans that were born here. That's how bad this is. And that's why it's got to be rooted out at every level. But thank you for your call, Joe.
And maybe one day we'll be able to get some Chick-fil-A sandwiches and some Polynesian sauce on Sunday. Let's go ahead and go to Triz from DC. You're on Sekulow. Hi. Hi, everybody.
How are you? We're doing well. Listen, you you know what? I'm a senior. But I want you to know I worked forty three years.
I was a workhorse, and I want people to understand your one accident or one diagnosis from your life being turned upside down. It is unbelievable that you're talking about this this morning. I told the young lady that took the call, I am a victim. I am a victim of what you're talking about. And I know there's many more seniors.
You would not believe the doctors that said I've been in their office, I haven't. These doctors put notes, different things in your notes, your medical notes, And then they tell you something verbally. Do you not know I have $3,000 in counting coming out of my Social Security disability check? I asked for the ledger for Medicaid. Oh my God.
There are doctors on there I don't know nothing about. All they have to do is send it to Medicare, but somebody inside is doing something. Do you understand me? I hear you. We've only got a minute left, but you know what's unfortunate is that you're not the only one.
Is that I feel like you're gonna be more of the pattern? The more they dig into this, is that people are just exploiting people that worked hard your entire life. And that's where I say you can't even get to the policy portion of this. Sherry, I couldn't get to you, but you're saying, will spending cuts really harm America's seniors? I don't think so, because you have to root out the fraud and then actually pay for the people like Triz that worked hard to get that Medicare benefit.
Yeah. It would cost a lot less money if you're not paying all these fraudulent things. Root it out, get back to the basis, then have your policy fights, but we can't even get there right now. Because of how much is being stolen from you, me, and people like Triz that called from DC. Thank you so much for calling, folks.
I'm sorry I couldn't get to every call today, but I appreciate you calling in today. We'll be back tomorrow with more on Sekulow. But if you can become an ACLJ champion today and stand with those that we need to fight for, go to aclj.org.
