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1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Wrapping up our stop. the Madness Week here at the ACLJ, where we're going to uncover a lot of the great work the ACLJ is doing that you frankly could not imagine is actually happening a lot of times in our own country. And today, we're going to be taking you over to California.
And of course, we're going to be talking about our case. In support of Calvary Chapel and against Gavin Newsom in the state of California.
So, we're gonna discuss that a little bit later. We also got Rick Ronnell coming on in the next segment.
So you're not going to want to miss that. And today, Sort of the big news of the morning. You know what I I we've Tulsi Gabbard. Director of National Intelligence, she has been A friend of ours was a colleague of ours, contributor to this show for a number of years before she was given that position. You know what I like about her?
Is that it feels like no stones are left unturned. It doesn't matter how many years ago we're going to go back. And this one isn't that many years ago. We're going back just to the 2024. Election.
And a report that came out from our friends at Just the News saying that there was a multi, multi-million dollar, hundreds of millions of dollars of potential. uh fraud going on specifically to bolster the Biden reelection campaign. And it's coming from a foreign source. That's right.
So, for those of you that watch this show, this may not sound shocking, but it is shocking to me when you read that there are intercepts that were in the possession of our government.
So, intelligence agencies got these intercepts that were from Ukrainian government officials, Ukrainian government communications. As far back as 2022. The U.S. government had these that talked about a plot that would redirect USAID money. That was earmarked for clean energy projects in Ukraine.
to be funneled back to the United States, and into the coffers of the Democrat National Committee As well as The Joe Biden re-election campaign. We've been concerned about the Ukrainian issue for as long as Joe Biden was a candidate for public office, as far as the presidency. And this report. Shows that there's a summary of these raw intercepts that say that the Ukrainian government and unspecified US government personnel. Through USAID in Kiev.
Reportedly, he developed a plan that would provide hundreds of millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund an infrastructure project in Ukraine that would actually be used as cover to send approximately 90% of funds allocated to the DNC to fund Joe Biden's reelection campaign. This is shocking. It is newly uncovered. We obviously know that the intelligence agencies that had possession of this were under the Joe Biden administration.
So, what Tulsi Gabbard is now doing is a massive investigation into this, finding out through records as well as other ways to find out if this was carried out. this plot. And whether a criminal referral should be made to the FBI. This is, we've talked about corruption in Ukraine, we've talked about the election interference from these governments, but right here, you're seeing that even the administration under Joe Biden had receipt of this. Yeah, I want you to understand, folks, it's not saying now, because I think a lot of.
A lot of people in the podcast world seem to get caught up in this kind of thing, which is now not saying, oh, look at this corruption happening in Ukraine. That must make Russia the good guy. No, what it just shows you is there is corruption happening. at all levels of politics. including here in America.
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Help defend Our incredible clients help keep this show on the air. That's ataclj.org. Welcome back to Sekulow. Rick Rinnell is joining us right now. Of course, we are if you're just joining us, a lot of you are right now.
And look, if you're in the chat right now, let me know where you're watching from. It's an easy way. I love reading, seeing where everyone's coming from worldwide. I think that's what's really cool about the way we're able to present this broadcast now: worldwide, there are people watching. And when you understand, when you travel around the world, you start to notice how much.
American news, American politics, American pop culture influences the world. If you turn on Sky News, if you turn on the BBC when you're in London, wherever it may be, often the faces you're going to see are the faces you're going to see here. President Trump, whoever it may be, are showing up on the news because what happens here really does influence the world. And with that, of course, we are talking about this just the news coverage, this breaking news, really, that came out. And again, it's not necessarily shocking news, Will.
That the Ukrainian government potentially to the tune of hundreds of millions, or whatever it may be.
Well, and Rick, this is John Solomon, our friend over at Justin News on this broadcast often, has this report. It's one of the only places you can see this report. This is a report. But it is coming off of a declassified summary from our government that apparently, during the Biden administration, they intercepted communications between the Ukrainian government and unspecified U.S. government personnel.
Through USAID, that were coming up with this plot to funnel taxpayer dollars. Through a clean energy program in Ukraine back to the DNC and the reelection of Joe Biden. When you saw this, I don't want to plagiarize John Brennan, but does it ring true that this could be something that could have happened?
Well, first of all, raise your hand if you're shocked that this didn't leak out during the Biden administration. I mean, every little piece of information is manipulated from the intelligence agency when it is an anti-Republican moment. And yet here we have the raw intelligence showing that the Ukrainians were trying to funnel money, U.S. taxpayer money, back to the Biden campaign in order to help them win.
Now, let's unpack this. They wanted Biden to win because they were getting money from Biden. For this war between Russia and Ukraine. They didn't want the money to end.
So they were willing to sacrifice a couple of hundred million dollars to send it back to the political system in America, even though it started with US taxpayer dollars. Supposed to go for an energy program. Instead, the allegation is that it went back. and helped Biden's uh campaign. Go ahead.
This is outrageous. This should be in the front page news. We should be investigating this. Thank God that Tulsi is the one that has found this and declassified this. And now they're trying to figure out if it actually, if any of the money actually went into the campaign.
Rick, this story to me has so many elements to it that should be almost vindicating to people on the right in the conservative media that have been talking and raising questions, genuine questions. Was there corruption between the Bidens and the Ukrainians?
Well, that'll get you impeached and kicked off social media if you ask that. And you'll have all the intelligence community writing a very strongly worded letter against you if you were to say that. Once again, people that say, I feel like a lot of this clean energy initiative is kind of a scam. How dare you, you climate denier, that want everyone in the world to lose their cities and have all these things bad happen, apocalyptic happen because you deny climate. But yet, in this one story, and it's not like it's some random person.
This is intercepts within the government that now the investigation is whether or not people acted on this. But the intercepts clearly showed that there was a plot, whether or not it went forward, that encompassed all the things that if you were a conservative questioning, you were canceled, put in Facebook jail, right here in one story. A far-fetched idea. I think that's when you read the sort of report. Report.
Sure, it's a report. We know our friends at Justin News, they do a great job.
So I'm not questioning their report. But when you do read it, you go, well, yeah, as Rick, you stated. Um It's clear where they were going, why the reasons they were, and you're right. A lot of money was being funneled to them.
So, of course, they wanted to keep things going. You know, one of the cabinet officials in the Biden administration that literally got away without having scrutiny. She uh escaped Public and media scrutiny. And it's really a shame. And now we're finding out that there's a lot here that needs to be investigated.
The woman is Avril Haynes, who was the DNI during Joe Biden's tenure. She's never answered the question for what was going on with all of the Ukrainian money. Clearly, we now know that there was intelligence sources showing that it was being abused. Why didn't she come forward? Why didn't she say, wait a minute, lawmakers, we should do a little pause here on funding the Ukrainians until we figure out if they're playing political games with this?
This would have been something that a real DNI who was interested in transparency would have come forward to say, look, I don't care if this is helping Joe Biden and the Democrats, and I'm a Democrat-appointed DNI. It doesn't matter. This is the type of scandal that makes American tax dollars. And taxpayers say, I don't think I want to fund more intelligence programs if this is what they're up to.
Well, and once again, if you watch this broadcast, you were told from day one of the Biden administration by Rick Rinnell that someone you should be concerned about in this administration is Averell Haynes. You had many times mentioned on this broadcast.
So our audience understands exactly what you're talking about. But you also have to take the converse here because I think whenever you look at a story like this, Um what would what would be happening? if this story were flipped. If it were the Trump administration, not even the President himself, but someone. In an agency, talk to a foreign government about rerouting money back into the United States to fund the election.
It would be everywhere. There would be an impeachment. There would be just mass chaos in our country over this. And honestly, if that was something that was intercepted. There's a lot of problems with that.
That's not what happened. They will go this far with saying we have to use things like the Steele dossier to try and get President Trump completely wiped out of public life. But when it comes to something that the intelligence agencies themselves picked up, there are crickets. There is one place you can find this. Just the news.
Even in conservative spaces, you're not seeing this as much. And maybe people have moved on. Maybe people have lost the appetite or gotten numb to this corruption. But when you're seeing this, I'm thankful that this government is looking into this now. Look, I actually think that in order to restore faith in the intelligence agencies, to restore faith in the process to fund Ukraine and the war and Congress, that we need to see Avriel Haynes testify in Congress on this particular issue.
What did she know, and when did she know it? Why did she cover it up? Did she dismiss this as this isn't accurate? This isn't real news, this is phony.
So then tell us. Because right now, what we see is a total cover-up. From the Avril Haynes intelligence community, where she knew that there was this scheme to take U.S. taxpayer money from Ukrainian funding, pretend like it was going to an energy company, but it really was going to re-elect Joe Biden. That's a scandal.
The fact that we caught it is fantastic, but why didn't it come out then? And what was done to ensure that the money didn't actually go to that campaign? And I want to clarify something, Will, number one. Avril Haynes. No relation.
No, spelled differently. The Haynes is spelled differently. Yeah, I just want to make sure people don't agree. This is some sort of also, you know, plot that we have here. Right.
So, Rick, what? I am the deep state. Yeah, well, you never know. You never know. You don't know whoever you're looking at.
That's why you got people like Tulsi Gabbard. And look, I think it's why it's important, Rick, also, is you do have someone like Tulsi in this position, and you've had people like you in these kind of positions. People that are not just going to say, well, that's old news. We're not worrying about that anymore. They will deep dive and continue searching for really what's going on.
Even if it seems, as Will said, maybe the appetite from the news media may have moved on. That doesn't matter to the people who we put in these positions. Yeah, look, we got to give credit to Tulsi. She actually declassified this so that we could see the whole story, that there wasn't some mystery or some leaks that are coming out with partial information. She actually declassified the whole story.
Now I think it's up to Congress to take this declassified information and figure out what exactly went wrong. Why didn't we know about it then? What did Averyl know? And when did she know it? All right.
Thank you so much, Rick, for joining us. We are going to continue this conversation, and I want to have that conversation with you.
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Lots of you are just tuning in right now. We are discussing this report coming out from just the news. Our friend John Solomon has been on the show just as early as a few days ago with these really in-depth coverage. And this report that said the U.S. had intercepted.
Messages from the Ukrainian government with at least a plot To get money into the Biden reelection campaign. Again, none of us are really shocked by this. You had a situation where Ukraine was receiving millions and millions of dollars. From The Biden administration. Of course, they wanted that to continue going.
And again, just because this is happening. Doesn't mean, oh, now we're saying, well, Russia is good in this situation. No, that's not how this works. What we're saying is that there is corruption happening at all levels and there is interference and influence coming from foreign governments in our own elections, and we don't need to be numb to that. Even if it's not shocking, and trust me, I saw in your comments.
A lot of you are not shocked. I'm not shocked either at this report. But the fact that we have the report to me is actually the good news. And that is that you have someone like John Solomon, and then you also have Tulsi Gabbard on the other side who are exposing really what is going on.
So maybe. There is hope for a future where this doesn't happen because if it can be brought to light, It can then be thwarted.
Well, and here's here's something to think about as well. When you look at this story, and it goes into detail that the intercepts even talked about subcontractors. Of USAID that would be possible recipients of the money that would eventually be moved to the DNC. Like, this was not just a, hey, what if? This was a plan.
of how they could move the money. From the taxpayer. to Ukraine through USAID to Ukraine. Two subcontractors back to the DNC and the Biden reelection campaign. When you think about what the left did and the deep state did, President Trump.
When there was allegations that weren't vetted. They put it out in the media. They reordered a new. Uh assessment, intelligence community assessment. Present.
Obama ordered it. And when they said this stuff is not credible, They said, doesn't it ring true? That's John Brennan. And they went forward and they pushed and pushed and they leaked things and they leaked allegations. And when President Trump said to Zelensky, hey, you need to look in to see if there is corruption in your country.
What happened? They impeached him.
Now think about this context. This is something that's received. It seems to be a plot that was discussed by some sort of conspiracy within people that were in the U.S. government and Ukraine. Does that mean that Joe Biden knew about this?
Not according to this report. And honestly, I highly doubt that anything would come forward that shows that he did. But he was President, and it was his intelligence agencies. Tell me there's not a deep state. When you see that this was in the hands of Averill Haynes, like Rick said, Will's uncle.
Well, it's a lady, and I'm yes. How dare you? But when you look at that, they didn't run and run to Congress and say, you got to impeach Joe Biden. There is so much corruption in this government that we are a part of. No.
Because That's not what they do to their own. And that's not what they do when the end goal is the reelection and preservation of the deep state. That is the tale of two presidencies when it comes to information, when it comes to Ukraine. Because I can see on the floor, well, Joe Biden kept funneling money to Ukraine. He kept pushing and pushing and pushing to help Ukraine.
Therefore, there must be corruption, even if there's not an inkling of link to him to this story. That is what would have happened. But they sat on it. They didn't tell anyone. There were no leaks in the leakiest administration.
No leaks. All right. Well, speaking of leakiest administrations, Will. Phone lines are open at 1-800-68-4-30-110. That being said, we are during Stop the Madness Week telling you about the work of the ACLJ.
We don't have a ton of time right now, but I want to play this video and hopefully it gives you a minute to understand some of the incredible work the ACLJ is doing. This is, of course, in support of our friends at Calvary Chapel against the state of California. Take a look. San Jose Church that defied Santa Clara County's public health order will have to pay more than a million dollars in fines. It's like you're gonna lose this freedom that you thought was here, the American dream.
It's gonna be gone because it was the freedom to believe. As you want to believe into worship, who you want to worship, but they're coming in and saying, No, you can't sing, you can't gather, you know, we got to fear this disease. Calvary Chapel San Jose, just like many other churches throughout the state of California, was punished by draconian orders issued by Gavin Newsom during COVID-19.
So there'd be prayer meetings, and they'd come in and they'd count the people and they'd have their charts. I mean, they were definitely harassing us. Santa Clara County says the church blatantly violated public health orders during the COVID-19 pandemic by continuously holding large indoor church services and not requiring face coverings for anyone, along with little social distancing. They fined us originally, my understanding was up to over $4 million of all those. When you add it all up.
And we, uh were fined more than the entire county combined. They refused to comply with orders that the courts recognized violated their fundamental rights to freely live out their faith. and express their fundamental religious beliefs. Nonetheless, California has still decided to fine them millions and millions of dollars simply because they chose to meet.
So we appealed with Jay Sekulow now to the Supreme Court for just what's left of all these fines. We are asking the Supreme Court to take this case not just to correct the wrong done to Calvary Chapel, for the future as well. We saw how the government can overreach, not just at the federal level, state and local level. The whole thing's been five years, and they purposely said this to us early on. The county says, we're just gonna wear you out.
You know, we're just gonna attack you. Did they actually say, is that a quote? They did. They told us, look, we have more money. We have more lawyers.
The county's health orders did not treat churches equally to other gatherings. Whether that be restaurants or sporting events, people were able to freely remove their masks and live their lives. But churches, Churches were uniquely singled out. For unequal treatment because of their religious practice. Freedom for people to choose.
You know, it's not like you have to follow the church and do whatever we say. No, it's just let people believe in God, worship God, and don't dictate. how we do that. I mean that's a total violation of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court, it passed.
The authority to choose which cases it does and does not take, whether the Supreme Court is going to take this particular case or not. If it does, then we will be going before the Supreme Court on the merits and urging the court to once and for all hold that religious freedom is meaningful even in cases of emergency. The Constitution continues to protect the rights of churches to worship freely. Equal treatment, that's what the Constitution demands and what we hope to have the opportunity to fight for at the Supreme Court. And once again, that is a case that we've told you a lot about.
And remember, we just got the reply from California: their reasons why the Supreme Court should not take it. We will be able to respond to that as well. And next week, also, I want to give you a heads up. We're going to have Robert Tyler from Advocates for Faith and Freedom. He is the attorney that had it at the district court level, at the appellate level, and is co-counsel with us at the Supreme Court.
We joined alongside Advocates for Faith and Freedom to bring this case before the Supreme Court. Wonderful organization. If you're interested in looking them up as well, faith-freedom.com, they do wonderful work based out of California, faith-freedom.com. But we'll have Robert Tyler, chief counsel, there on the broadcast next week to talk more about it. We're not going anywhere.
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And now, your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. For those just joining us, we're going to recap the topic real quick. But before we get to that, I want you to call me if you want to be on the show today, because we've got about four lines open. And look, we packed that first half.
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It's always great to see you in the chat. But it's always great to hear your voice once again at 1-800-68-430-110. We are covering today. And look, we know a lot of you are also thinking about what's happening with still the DHS being shut down, including those crazy lines that are still going on at TSA in certain areas. Certain places have gotten better, certain have gotten worse.
Or can discuss that a bit as well. But the main topic we're discussing is really that our former colleague, Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, as well as a report that came out from our friends at Just the News, show a concerted effort. From the potentially from you the Ukrainian government. from some communications that were uncovered. that discussed a plot to route hundreds of millions of um dollars into the reelection campaign.
of Joe Biden in 2024.
Now, of course, you can say these dollars were kind of circled. They were dollars that were the American dollars. That were then funding Ukraine and then came back around. You know, they have a term for that. I know.
It's going to be like money laundering. Laundering. Right, yes. It goes round around. That's right.
And what we see here, too, is that it wasn't just this hypothetical. Like, what if? But there was, according to this report, there was communication between Ukrainian officials and U.S. officials about how this would take place. Not only that it would take place, but which subcontractors they would use to move this money.
Now, as of this report, it's unclear whether or not any money actually occurred in this plot. If they went through with it. But that is exactly what the Director of National Intelligence is doing. She is asking for records from USAID to be able to see whether or not. These funds moved in this way, and whether or not they can then trace it back, if it did come back to the United States and into the coffers of the DNC to help.
I'll re-elect Joe Biden. And then that's when a criminal referral would come in. I assume, based off even this, that the FBI or people at the Department of Justice would already be looking into this. The fact that this has been declassified, it's being talked about, you assume within the government. But that official criminal referral has not been made, that determination whether or not it needs to be made.
But it just goes to show you that all the gaslighting of the media. Of the Democrat politicians, of all of them, when you would try to raise a question of, hey, Um Hunter Biden's on the Energy Company board? This is a clean energy initiative that was fun. I mean, all of the things that anyone raising a question was considered a conspiracy theorist, that you have bought into Russian propaganda. You are a puppet.
But yet, here we are. and all these things that you were told not to look at, May have been exactly what they were trying to do. May not have been the same players. But it was the same plot.
Well, it often feels that way. Let's just take a, well, you only got a minute. Yeah, let's go ahead. Let's go to Ronald in South Carolina who's watching on Rumble. Ronald, go ahead.
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, this is quite interesting about how this is coming to light all of a sudden around now about the misdirecting of funds or the recycling of the funds. But what about the $10 billion that Hunter Biden was able to secure from being on those energy boards? Has they ever found out if that was illegal or not?
Well, once again, Ronald, the entire thing there was that it was influence peddling that wasn't necessarily illegal unless it was used directly to make decisions by the President. He was also pardoned. He was as well. Remember this, though. Remember, he was pardoned for like maybe everything.
Pretty much. Yeah, it was one of the most broad pardons we've ever seen.
So that's not like there's going to be a case against Hunter Biden. But also remember this. When the media is saying, how dare Tulsi Gabber be looking into the security of the elections? Why is she going to Georgia? and being uh on scene at some of these stuff.
They don't want you to look at it. They never did. We got phone lines open: 1-800-684-30-110. You know, I sang a little round and round. Who do you think sung that?
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Not a lot of people knew the song. Hair metal band from the 80s, but you know what? It was okay. Not like the animal. I mean, I think it was probably based off that kind of clever spelling, though.
Yeah, it was very 80s spelling. Right.
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Some of you are asking questions also about what's going on still with the Department of Homeland Security. And I want to take one of those calls. Let's go to Greg, who's calling in Ohio. He's been holding about a half hour. We appreciate it, Greg.
We're kind of on other topics, but we want to answer your question either way. Go ahead. Hey, sorry, for talking off topic. I was just worried about the. We worried about the Coast Guard as far as um getting funding.
We didn't hear anything on the news. I couldn't find anything out on the internet. They've gotta be suffering too, and they were just kinda walked over. Maybe they are getting fucked. Greg, they are not currently.
Their money comes through, unless it's a time of war and then things can shift. The Coast Guard is unique that their funding primarily comes through the Department of Homeland Security instead of the Department of Defense during peacetime. And they are not receiving funding currently. They are still doing their job as many. other branches are that when they don't receive funding, they are required to just without a paycheck.
And you think about search and rescue. You think about going after people that are smugglers. These are dangerous jobs. You're on the ocean. You're in Coast Guard cutters and going through rough waters many times.
These are not just laid-back jobs. These are very important, vital jobs to the American safety and American defense. And yet they are not being funded. We had a caller last week, I believe. Whose son is in the Coast Guard and is on a Coast Guard vessel and not getting paid, still expected to be on there doing the hard work.
But here's also where we are. Today, the Senate, or late last night, rather, the Senate was able to, through unanimous consent, get through funding of every portion of the Department of Homeland Security except ICE.
So it would be a partial refunding, except for ICE. And the news now, though, is that, okay, the Senate, they got it through. All the members of Congress want to go home for their Easter recess, but they're saying that it's not going to pass the House.
So we may be stuck here with still a defunded Department of Homeland Security, and Congress is about to go home. Yeah. And at this moment, also, you know, there have been a lot. I think you can get distracted also because President Trump said, I'm going to figure out a way to fund TSA. You had Elon Musk say, I'm going to pay all the TSA agents.
A lot of that is easier said than done. A lot of that is hyperbole, if you will. It may be well-intentioned. But it's not as easy as one, two, three, there you go.
Now, problem is, I think some people see those posts. And then they go, well. Good. Everything should be back to normal. And of course, we know that's not the case.
Hopefully, though, with this recent push, we'll have something. Phone lines are completely jammed right now.
Well, one just opened up, so I lied. 1-800-684-3110. We've got ACLJ champion who is calling in. Again, ACLJ Champions. This is a great time to really give you a little brief understanding of what that is.
That's people that give on a monthly basis. They give automatically a recurring donation, if you will, a membership, if you will. But they do it at any level. We call them ACLJ Champions, people that give whether that's $5 a month or whether that's $500 a month. It does not matter to us, or it could be more than that, because all of you are saying, I want to support on an ongoing basis and create really the floor for the ACLJ to make sure we have a budget set that we can meet and we can do things like this show.
We can do all the legal work that we're doing. All of it happens because of ACLJ supporters, but really, having those champions is incredibly important. Martin's one of them, Martin's in North Carolina. Go ahead. Thank you, sir.
Will had made a statement that I was hanging out waiting to hear called money laundering, and then Ron called. I know we call a lot, but he called and made the comment about the other situation with Hunter. But how many strings can be pulled, how many threads can be pulled with laptops and everything else too, in the fact of laundering money. And I say that to go back about a year and a half ago when y'all were telling us about how money was being distributed in Doge and everything else. And I think it was $500 million was going to Planned Parenthood, and $50 million of it was being funneled back to VNC.
These are things that need to be connected together for people to see how badly, I'll just say it, we are being robbed and the money is being laundered to make it look clean. Martin, I don't disagree with you at all. That is one of the reasons why Doge went after things like USAID because of the way that taxpayer dollars are being fraudulently taken, being used or wasted. Waste, fraud, and abuse. That is the kind of Of the mantra of what Doge was doing.
We've talked about the Planned Parenthood thing. They said through Planned Parenthood action, spend Lots of money on Democrat candidates. And their clinic side, Planned Parenthood for America, receives lots of money. from the US government. You can go down the list.
There is almost this NGO industrial complex of these. Organizations that provide services that receive taxpayer money, and then they also have their action side that supports Democrat candidates. You hear a lot of influence these days as you see crazy podcasters say that the United States is controlled by the Israel lobby. No, there are plenty of controlling interests in this United States of America. That have completely dominated, especially liberal politics, for decades.
And how do they do it? through that cyclical funding. We're going to support these candidates because these candidates are going to make sure that the taxpayer dollars keep going to our NGOs. I mean, you could write an encyclopedia on it. Yeah.
And look, the fight for life has been one we've also been continuing on. We didn't spend a ton of time on it this week, but we did talk about what was going on in Massachusetts in our fight there. Look, the fight for life is still ongoing. I know a lot of people maybe got tired of it. I'll be honest, when we did some of the polling that we do kind of internally and to our groups and to our supporters and to people who are aware of us.
The abortion conversation dropped pretty low on the list of importance right now. I think a lot of you saw Roe v. Wade overturned. But understand the funding to play in Paranone, all those things is a continual fight, a continual struggle that seems to be always one of those line items that gets sacrificed.
Well, and once again, that fight. California still had a lawsuit. They were still fighting to get the funding reinstated. They withdrew it last week. Planned Parenthood had withdrawn their lawsuit.
Now, that meant. Finally, they were defunded. But guess what? That funding, that defunding was only through, I think, June or July of this year. Then it turns right back on.
It's a new spending fight.
So that's something that's going to have to come back up. And we're going to see if these same members of Congress that finally had the courage to get it through for one year. In one year only, We'll do that again.
So we'll be watching. Yeah, we'll be watching. Will, and I were reading a report that came out of the UK this morning that was very interesting. I think there's, you know, that's not an issue that's talked about very much of what happens with life in different countries. They've had some interesting movements, not necessarily in a positive way.
Maybe we'll discuss that on a future episode, but it's something to consider when we're looking at the ongoing fight for life and what it looks like worldwide as technology adjusts, as things move forward. You know, what does the future look like in that Ongoing battle. And once again, it also tracks what we've seen in a lot of these states that we've been fighting here: this push for late-term and even the post-birth period where there's complete decriminalization if a child dies. Yeah, so I mean, something to look into of really what's happening around the world. And maybe we'll dive into that a little bit more again.
That's a big topic. That's one we're not going to get into today, just because it would take the rest of the show. With that, Three lines are open for you right now. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3.
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Watch it on the ACLJ app also. Good place. Go ahead. I'm doing well. I think we need to finish up in Iran.
Okay. As for For these rising gas prices that people are complaining about. Where were those people when Trump wanted to drill baby drill? Yeah, it is interesting how quickly the left that is saying, hey, our entire policy is to shift us away from carbon emissions and fossil fuels to power our vehicles and our cities. But as soon as something like this happens, they're like, oh my goodness, the gas prices.
You'd think they'd be like, great, keep raising it so people won't use it if they were ideologically consistent. They wouldn't be saying, look what he's doing to you, raising your gas prices. They would be saying, well, you should have bought an electric car, shouldn't you have? That would be ideologically consistent. It also tells you why.
Uh that there's no uh A real I'm not sure what you're getting out of here. I know I got distracted for a second. There's no real anything behind it except for political gain. They think that if they push this, they're going to keep getting elected. But then as soon as it's advantageous to them, They are going to completely flip and say, look, it's so bad that your gas prices are tough.
So it's the truth that it's all being used as political moments. I'm not saying the gas prices aren't tough. I filled up my take two days ago. It was pretty brutal. I'll be honest.
It was, you know, it was intense. To get that bill there at the end. I'm not going to pretend it's not.
Okay, let's say that.
However, You are right. It's the same people who were saying the opposite two years ago, saying it today. It's not unlike. I'll be honest. This is not something that I would love to bring up today.
It's not like the Epstein situation, where it was the conversation of the right, and the left tried to hide for years. And then it flipped. And now it's the right tries to hide it, and the left won't talk. You know, it. Yeah.
It rings true that it's all politics. Why can't ring true true true truth? Troy O'Connor and all of these other members of Congress go to Joe Biden and go to the entire administration and say, hey, this is a big deal. Why won't you release this? When they were in the majority.
and had the White House and had the DOJ. I knew how to get Will talking. Right, right there. But they didn't because they didn't care and they still don't care. We got a few lines open.
We're going to try to take some more calls. Let's go to Bill in New York. Bill, you're on the air. Uh Yeah. Hello.
Yeah, I look forward to your show every day. Appreciate it. But I'm going to mention the Ukraine war.
Okay, for one thing, uh, I posted a lot of stuff on the internet when it first started and I said we shouldn't get involved. They're not in you They're not uh our ally. Um And as far as I'm concerned, they were the number one Most deceptible nation in the world for decades, okay? Uh the uh D Zelensky used to come over shake hands with Biden, get twenty, thirty, forty billion dollars. Every single time.
And I'm thinking, where are the Conservatives? Where are the Republicans? Why don't they stop this? I saw fraud from day one. Day one And it's still going on.
We need to cut ties with that. Zelensky, he is, as far as I'm concerned, he's a weasel. He's a weasel. Bell, I think there's been, obviously. Fatigue on the Russia-Ukraine situation.
Again, I don't want to say you take this moment here and go, this is...
Now saying, well, well, then it must mean Russia is good. It must mean something else like that. That's not what we're saying here. And look, here's what I could say about Zelensky: you may not like him, and I understand that there is concern about that. And there's concern the fact they haven't had elections, all the things that have happened in Ukraine.
They're not undeserved. You shouldn't be not asking questions. But if there is anyone who is understood how to actually fight and get money for his uh campaigns and what's going on in the Ukraine. And fight for his own country? It's that guy.
That guy has done a good job. He's done a good job. When it comes to getting the world behind him and getting funding, At least for a number of years. If you are a Ukrainian and you are Ukraine first, like Logan is saying, he's delivering. He's able to do what he's saying.
He's a leader in that sense. I mean, you may not agree with his policies. You may not agree with what he's done. But the fact that he was able, remember, just a few years ago, show up on every award show Rallied together all of Washington, D.C., and all of Hollywood to be on his side in a war. All it was was to get funding.
And he did a good job getting funding for his country.
So, you can't like kind of poo-poo on that. I look at that and actually go, that's pretty impressive. That's an impressive guy, even if you don't agree with him. Let's go and take a call here and look, even what was going on potentially in this situation. Right?
The entire reason was to keep funding going to his country.
Okay. You can be impressively corrupt and still be impressive and corrupt. Which, by the way, I don't know if we're not doing this in America.
Well, once again, we at the ACLJ uncovered that the United States was funneling money to Mahmoud Abbas's son to try and unseat Bibi Netanyahu. That's what your taxpayer dollars were doing. They were going to other people's campaigns in other countries. It's all the same, it's all corruption.
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