BREAKING: Comey Indictment Imminent

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That's right, you heard it here. James Callman. Indictment imminent. I have to make sure I say that right, Will, because I feel like it's a lot of I words back to back.

So that to the tease a bunch of times, I'll be honest. That was not a one take. That was a couple takes there. But this is breaking news here. James Comey, of course, former FBI director.

The sources are confirming.

Sources are saying this is happening. It is happening very soon. And my dad, Jay Secula, who I don't know, had some, had a little bit to do with a lot of that situation, is going to be on the broadcast coming up here in the next segment.

So stay tuned for that. And then later in the show, we're going to hear from you.

So give us a call. 1-800-68-431-10. But Will, let's brief him on what's going on. That's right. We knew that there had been a grand jury impaneled looking into some of these allegations against James Comey.

But now it appears that the DOJ is prepared to ask for an indictment from this grand jury as soon as today. It appears they're looking at allegations he lied to Congress back in 2020. There'd be a five-year statute of limitations on that, which would run out on Tuesday.

So if they are going to ask for an indictment, It has to be in the next couple of days. Yeah, so I mean, it has to happen then. It's not something that's just theoretical up for discussion. And right now, we're obviously also monitoring President Trump. If you're watching this show live, that is from 12 to 1 p.m.

Eastern Time. That's right. So if you're watching live, it's 12.03, I think, or 12.02 Eastern Time. President Trump's currently meeting with Erdogan, Turkey. That's right.

Correct.

So, I mean, that's something that we'll cover. If there's anything we feel like we need to pop in, it's a lot of trade discussion, a lot of discussion on their relationships with Russia. And we'll keep you updated if there's anything like that to continue on. But of course, Comey having the situation where he has essentially even admitted to lying in many ways, saying, you know, That he had uh Leaked things to the press or leaked things to his friend to then leak to the press and then to go and say, Hey, I didn't delete anything. You know, very semantics game played by James Comey.

Of course, he obviously has had so many issues come up, including even as recently as Shellgate. Who just a few months ago? That's right. Yeah, where he found those shells in the sand that said 8647. We do know that he has been an antagonist of President Trump for years.

He used his power as the FBI director to get involved with an election, whether it be the way he handled the Hillary Clinton email scandal or what he did in the wake of that. After President Trump was President-elect Donald Trump in the way that he operated his FBI, it was not something that should happen in the United States of America.

Now, what we will see is if the grand jury, when they are asked by the DOJ to indict him. If they will indeed indict him, and then where it goes from there. And those are things that we're going to talk with your dad about in the next segment: what this would look like, what a trial would look like. It's in the Eastern District of Virginia, how that would play in, and a lot ahead. The implications are, I mean.

Comey would become the first former I'm I'm reading it exactly so you can get it right. James Call me. Would become the first former senior government official to face prosecution in connection with one of these grievances. He would be one of the. First time's in these kind of situations where an indictment actually happens, goes through, and we get this far.

So, what does that look like? You're going to find out, and you're going to hear a lot more from my dad coming up, Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. We'll give you a little bit of brief background on our involvement, all of this over the years. Maybe some of you are brand new and don't know how long we've been working on these kind of situations with President Trump, the previous Trump administration.

So, stay tuned for that. It's going to be a lot of fun, a lot of interesting content coming here. I say fun in the sense of: look, we've had a lot of. Dark days over the last couple weeks.

So, to have a break here, we can actually just discuss what's going on a little bit in the news. Uh and and maybe it's not a life or death situation. Uh is a bit of a relief. That's weird to say that indictments can be reliefs, but here we are. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-30110.

I actually just saw someone in the comments say, Logan, you should send in the clouds today. You know what? I haven't done that in a long time. Haven't felt appropriate. Do you feel So let.

Send in the clowns. You know what to do. That's right. Put in the clown emojis. We'll be back in just a moment, but phone lines are open at 1-800.

684-3110, 1-800-684-31. 1-0, we'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us as well. I didn't even get to introduce you earlier.

Well, Will Haynes is joining us in the studio, of course, as always, but I just want to make sure. Actually, not as always. You were not here yesterday. I wasn't here. But as most of the time, we'll say that.

But my dad, Jay Sakilla, is joining his dad. Obviously, this comes on the news this morning that was just breaking that James Comey is set. To be indicted, it could happen at any time. Obviously, these are sources, but these are pretty reliable sources saying it's happening. Let's just get your overall thoughts and also give people a background of why this is important to even the work that we're doing here.

Well you know Yeah, involved in this. As lawyers for President Trump back when all of this was going on. This stems from, and this is what's important for people to understand, because a lot of people. may not remember the details. Uh Congress where And Tech Bruce has pointed this out very well that.

James called me when asked about this leaking of information. did not give a forthright answer. At least that's going to be the allegation. In other words, he did not tell the truth. He lied.

It involved a situation where an individual that was a law professor received. Notes From James Comey after a conversation with the President of the United States, that law professor then leaked it to the press. James Comey asked about the leak, said I didn't leak anything to the press. And and even more specific, Andrew McKay, who I am no fan of. went before Congress and gave Totally contradictory testimony.

And I don't know if you all remember this. They were arguing with each other via then Twitter now X. about who was telling the truth. I mean, there were these texts going back and forth And this is a culmination of the unprofessional conduct The illegal conduct in my view that James Homey engaged in as he was trying to basically In a sense Blackmail the present. And That's a strong word to use, but I want to put it in a real context here.

Remember It was James Tomey and Clapper and these others that went to the then President elect. In twenty early 2017 before we were sworn in and went through that whole situation with the steel dossier and the allegations So James Comey also said three times in writing, well, it to the President actually, that he was not under investigation when, in fact, they already had opened up. crossfired a hurricane and he was under investigation.

So there's just these, you know, this is the guy that also in the Hillary Clinton campaign. Interfered with an election by getting out and saying, Yeah. First exonerated, then not exonerated, and reopened again. And you just can't do that as the FBI director. He jumped over the Attorney General, who is his boss.

when he made these saved.

So, this is, in fact, a long overdue process.

Now, overdue being by Tuesday the statute of limitations on the line the Congress allegation, if in fact, that becomes the allegation or one of them. was to expire. On Tuesday.

So the grand jury is impaneled on Thursday. me that's what's happening now and a lot of people expect a returning indictment Uh sometime later today or or Maybe it will be unsealed. Uh early next week. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: As far as the process of this goes, we know that a lot of people in the press are reporting it is about, as you mentioned, the lying before Congress, that it could be things in addition to that. Those are the details we don't know at this moment.

But once they take this and ask for an indictment before a grand jury, this is in the Eastern District of Virginia. What happens after that as far as process goes so people can be looking forward to what could come out of this? Once a grand jury, if in fact they what's called return, issue an indictment that is then taken to the judge. and the indictment is issued. James Comey would be arrested in process.

He probably would turn himself involuntarily, I suspect. and then the court proceedings start.

So that's how it moves. It'll be handled by the United States Department of Justice, the Eastern District of Virginia, appears where this indictment is coming out of. And they have an acting U. S. attorney who would be in charge of the case.

the criminal division of their office, but it also may have main DOJ people involved as well. I'm sure it will in the nature of the kind of case that it is. In this kind of case, what's the time line look like here? Because we know they have a couple of years left of a Trump presidency. And does that change could this indictment, this moment, kind of be reversed if we see the pendulum shift in just a couple of years?

Well what if the White House were to turn in 2028 to Democratic President, he can order the Department of Justice to not move forward with that indictment.

Now, if the case has been tried. and a jury issues a verdict, whether it's guilt or innocence, I'm not guilty or guilty. Then you have a situation where once it's fried, it's done. A new President could You know, if there was a sentence involved, a new President could waive the sentence or even issue a pardon. But If it's not tried by then, yes, politically things can happen.

And justice is part of the executive branch and the President is in charge of it.

Well, I see a lot of people talking about that. It's like, well, you know, it took this long to just get to this point. Uh Having a President, though, in place right now, could this be not fast-tracked, but something that is reasonable to get done within the next 24 months? We're here to you know, is reasonable and that's what's left. Yeah.

So yes, I think the case could be Within that period of time, there'll be motions. but this is a high profile case. I think it'll move in an expeditious manner. But I do think that we have to remember That There will be, you know, James Comey will be entitled to counsel, and his lawyer will file motions to dismiss and motions to reduce the indictment. There will be a whole Whole series of legal work that goes in before trial.

But you could see, I think it's possible that you could see a trial in. Um you know in the next 18 months.

Now, let me say something else here because I see some people criticize this is so political. I can't believe that they're doing this. This is what the left's saying. They didn't say that when they went after President Trump. both while he was in office and then indicted him afterwards.

So, you know, if it's It's similar to what you all said yesterday, the double standard here when you were talking about The left wasn't saying much. as conservatives were being you know Censored by Google. And you know, and of course, you know, Google came out and said we were pressured by the Biden administration.

So It's the same kind of thing here. They forget. where and what they have done to this sitting President while he was President and then after he was out of office.

So You know, they've kind of opened this up. In a sense. And when you look at the entire justice system, once the indictment is returned, if it is returned, then it goes into a normal process. And this is the Eastern District of Virginia. This is, obviously, you bring charges against the person where the alleged crime would have happened.

And we are in a place where there's a lot of government employees. There's a lot of bureaucrats that live in this district. And because of the nature of that, obviously we believe in the justice system. But do you think the jury pool could be more difficult? For the government, because of the nature of what many of the people in that community do.

They are government employees. And may have already opinions on something like this. Does that become a hurdle for the DOJ in this?

Well, I would say it's part it's the risk. Of any time you go to trial. You know, the Eastern District is called the Rocket Docket because it's known as one of the fastest. and frankly, one of the most efficient district courts in the country. And these cases tend to move fast.

And you would think it'll be experienced prosecutors. that will be bringing this action and uh But the jury's the jury, and you're not going to know that until it goes to trial. Right. All right, well, hey, phone lines are open for you. I want to hear from your thoughts on the James Comey potential indictment that could be coming at any time.

Give me a call at 1-800-684-30-110. Of course, it's a great time to support the work of the ACLJ. And Dad, when these kind of things happen, you also know that our work, our FOIA work, our deep state work really comes into really fruition here. You see the light at the end of the tunnel on some of these processes because I know a lot of people see what we've been doing for that for many, many years now. And here it is playing out in real time.

Yeah, it is real. time and we were in Involved in it from the very beginning. There's not many lawyers that know more about this than our team here at the ACLJ. and private lawyers who worked on this. But let me also say, Logan, it is a great time to support the work of the ACLJ on so many different fronts.

And I encourage people to go to aclj.org. And if you can donate. Monthly, become an ACLJ champion. But we appreciate the support. A lot of work going on, a lot of new and exciting things going on.

This will be a big one. We'll keep an eye on this very closely and keep everybody informed as it moves forward. Yep, but we'll continue this discussion going forward. Again, thanks, Dad, for joining us today. Phone lines are open for you, as I said, at 1-800-684-30-110.

But the fight for justice continues on. We've been engaged in it for 35 years. You know, we've been celebrating 35 years, the ACLJ, for the last half of the year or so. A big part of that is holding the deep state accountable. And with this potential Comey indictment coming, which could come in any moment, it's a reminder again that our work and our FOIA work, our Freedom of Information Act work, has taken on vital importance over the years.

As we fight back against years of lawfare, lawfare whether against President Trump or the Trump administration or us or really any organizations like ours. But it's only getting more intense. I mean, we've seen what's going on in the world. and the issues become more and more important.

So, in a couple days, let's give you a couple facts here. In days, we have two more vital deadlines: one involving the FBI's deep state. One vital FOIA we continue to work involves Comey placing spies in the White House. In total, we have 20 active freedom of information Cases, several involving the FBI under Director Comey and Ray. Though sometimes the deep state seems like they remain as we still work that out.

We have to be part of the team rooting it out. You can be part of that team too.

So I encourage you, go to aclj.org. All I'm asking you to do right now is to sign a petition. That's at aclj.org/slash sign. Aclj.org slash sign. You'll see it right there on the homepage.

We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. We're going to take your phone calls at 1-800-684-30110 as we continue our discussion about James Comey and some other heavy hitters. Maybe you heard of Letitia James. As meetings have been moving forward in those cases as well, we're going to talk about that.

Let's first take a call, real quick, though, because hopefully a call will then spur you to call. Which would be nice.

Some people are going to be real happy you're taking calls early. That's all I can say. You know, and we're starting to get towards the end of the week.

Well, And I just, I have the. You need more calls early on. More calls to get us through an hour. I hear you. Let's do it.

In North Carolina, come on and raise up. You're online too. Yeah.

Go ahead. I'm good. Hello, how are you doing? As I shared to the young man that answered the call. I'm glad to see that they're finally some indictments starting to possibly come down.

against all of this conspiracy that has gone on for the last ten years. Uh against President Donald Trump. I'm not one of these people that take the news or the media at their word. I do my own research. I follow to make sure that what I'm hearing its stack base.

And that has been proven. And there's a lot of things that have been brought to light Uh bugger. A cash potato. Uh-huh. About a CIA.

Um Uh by Telsey Gabbard. that is being brought to light, and they are exposing these things that are legally documents showing what they've done.

Well a lot of people like A lot of people, like myself, is wanting to know when these people are going to start being held accountable. because there were a lot of people that were jailed, put in jail, uh following tried for things that Have been proven that they didn't do. but they had to go to jail.

So now it's time for these people that have been doing this stuff despite being prosecuted. and being held accountable for what they've done. And go to jail. Straight job. Joe, I I think that is uh that is what a lot of people, especially watching this broadcast, have been wanting for a long time, is that we've seen what's played out.

We've seen the uh the the bad actors inside the government uh exploiting their positions. To politicize their work, whether it be the FBI director, the former director of the CIA, the former director of national intelligence, all of those people, we knew that they were nefarious in their actions. We read the text messages between the FBI agents that were saying, don't worry, this will never happen. There will never be a Donald Trump President. And if there is, we've got the insurance policy.

We read it all. We've seen it all. And now we are seeing even more of that. How far deep it went. And you're right.

That is where the frustration happens to many Americans: is that when will someone be held accountable for this? I almost don't think it can ever happen in a weird way. Like, it just feels like we've gotten so close so many times to this sort of accountability culture, if you will, in terms of this, and it never seems to happen. It gets close. It gets yes, Hillary Clinton did all these horrible things, but.

Not horrible enough. And look, I'm not about going up to your political opponents. I mean, when it comes to trumping up charges, doing things that are ridiculous. And the problem is we have that. The back of our head because usually it's them coming after us.

It's usually coming after conservatives.

So now that you've happened, you have a different FBI, even different CIA, you have to start treating them differently. And like I said, it's easy to see those three letters and not think Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, or whoever it may be, Tulsi Gambo, Pambondi, to see those three-letter organizations and not immediately go to corruption. Right. You know, and that's something that we've had to relearn the last year.

Well, and I also think to Joe's point as well. Remember, once there's an indictment, we're still innocent until proven guilty in this country. The Department of Justice has to prove their case. They have to prove their case before a jury.

So it doesn't necessarily even mean he will be found guilty. If they can't prove their case, if the jury decides to exonerate him, then that is something that. Could play out.

So, and remember, this is what they're being talking about: this is a perjury charge. Against Congress. It's not. A corruption charge or a RICO charge or something that, or a conspiracy charge that we're hearing about.

So even that Kind of is like, okay, well, they're going with what they can get or what they think. They can get an indictment on because of statute of limitations. But once again, that's not even all of the corruption that we've seen. That wouldn't be accountability for all of that.

So those are things to keep in mind as we go forward and keep Watching this play out. Yeah, well, there are other people that are having some issues right now. We do know that Letitia James, I guess the mortgage fraud probe. That's right. It is continuing on, pushing ahead with this investigation of the New York Attorney General, again, Letitia James, over those allegations.

And again, this was after you had all this back and forth with Letitia James, President Trump. And of course, President Trump said, Yeah, I think we want to push forward. I think I'd like to move forward with this.

Well, this is one where. There was basically the Federal Housing Finance Agency director, so a federal agency. made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice saying, Hey, We're just looking over some stuff, and it appears that Letitia James committed mortgage fraud. She lied on these documents. There's even documents we found from back in the 80s.

That showed this as a pattern, even though those would be outside the statute of limitations.

So that's been being investigated, also out of the Eastern District of Virginia. And it appears that the DOJ is continuing to push ahead with this, meaning that. They are still investigating. and could bring this to a grand jury for charges against her. as well as John Bolton.

reporting yesterday that When they did the raid of John Bolton's house and office, they did find documents labeled classified, confidential, and secret. That is something that he went after President Trump so much. How reckless. That he would have As former President, secret documents at Mar-a-Lago. But once again, it's like they have no memory of these things, right?

I really do feel that way, that you get in this sort of blur of maybe it's kind of like us doing a show here. When you do a show five days a week, I can't recall what happened Tuesday at 1223. Right. Because I don't know what I said then because we're wheeling and dealing. We're doing an hour of essentially improv talk here every day.

I feel like something happens to people where they're like, How dare you have confidential documents? And they're like, I would never do that. I would never, ever do that. And then you find out they did. I don't know if it's always nefarious or if it's just a lot of hubris.

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like, I would never do such a thing. And then you find out, of course, you did. And then even them are like, oh, dang it. I did.

Or some of my staff did. This is what happens here. But those. Those are moving forward. That's right.

So once again, a lot of things, heavy hitters. John Bowman, TJ James. We'll see what happens. James Comey. But if they move forward, this is a lot of these people will be getting charged with something that they were critical of the President saying he was doing.

This goes back to that thing that I know Rick Grinnell says a lot on this broadcast that when the left accuses you of something, they're probably doing it themselves. That's what this entire pattern has seemed to show. They said that President Trump was colluding with Russia to interfere in the election. In reality, it was the deep state colluding with themselves to interfere in the election and to hamstring a presidency. With Letitia James, falsified business documents and inflated values.

to get better loan terms. She Allegedly committed mortgage fraud to get better loan terms. And then, once again, Ambassador Bolton, how dare he have classified documents at Mar-a-Lago that's reckless. Oops. I may have the same thing at my house.

It's just, it's almost comical sending the clowns because they just keep doing the things that they are so pious about. We got a second half hour coming up. I want you to join us by giving us a call at 1-800-684-30110. If you don't get us on your local station or wherever you listen to us, find us broadcasting live every day, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern Time at aclj.org, YouTube, however, you get your podcast.

We're there. You can listen to it live, of course, later on. Most of you listen later on. And he got to give it up to Rick Grinnell. Going mainstream on us today.

This morning, CBS This Morning. Out there with Gail and everybody. Pretty fun to watch. Yeah, announcing that Kennedy Center honors will be on CBS. Be right back.

Keeping you informed and engaged.

Now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow, second half hour Sekulow. It's here. Will Haynes is joining me in the studio.

You didn't catch my dad was on earlier. If you want to hear more about the Comey situation, we'll talk about it still now. But if you want to have kind of a deep dive, I encourage you to go back when this show is over and go listen to his segment because it was very informative, very interesting. And of course, we are also talking about a lot of the issues of the day. There are not only a lot of prosecutions happening, not only there are a lot of things happening.

I did mention in the previous segment, I think this look. Could be sort of your mainstreaming of what's going on and sort of the calming down in the media landscape. And we'll talk to Rick Rinnell probably tomorrow or earlier next week because he was on this morning, CBS this morning with all the panel, all the hosts to announce that the Kennedy Center honors, which of course has been sadly mistreated, I feel like, over the last year as Rick has started to really put together what I think is going to be an incredible show with some great guests, Sylvester Stallone, Kiss, Gloria Gaynor, just a really who's who? It's going to be a great moment. For the arts, George Straight.

But CBS announces, hey, You know, the liberal kind of press wants to go after it, but hey, you know, we'd like to air that. We think, why? It's going to bring ratings. That's why. Exactly.

Because it's going to actually be people that the mass majority of Americans want to see. Have heard of. Once again, it's not going to be this list of people you've never heard of. That I'm sure are great artists and great at their craft, but the times that the art world gets so out of touch with what Americans value. you start to end up with a Kennedy center that was failing.

That was not able to cover their budget shortfalls, that was falling apart. And so, when you start putting together programming that people would like to see. and uh honoring people that Americans actually enjoy. You start to see things a little differently. And then you also see the networks be like, hey, can we?

Air show that. And we have CBS doing that. Of course, CBS in Paramount and all that whole situation has been very interesting to watch over the last year. But I'm excited for this. I'm excited to see Rick on the couch there.

You know, when usually you turn on, I see Rick on the couch. He's either with us or with Newsmax or something like that. Right. You know, kind of the typical one. I was like, I'm looking watching him on CBS.

Of course, answering hard questions. They didn't just let it slide here, but they did announce it was going to be there and it's going to be hosted by President Trump. We'll talk about that, I'm sure, with Rick tomorrow. Let's go ahead and take another call. One call, real quick, before we go to break.

Let's go to Deborah in Georgia, who is watching on the Salem News channel. Go ahead. Hello. I used to listen to your dad a long time ago, and I enjoyed his show like I enjoy yours. I think it's about time that Comey.

and all the others were indicted for this stuff they took present. Trump through. I voted for President Trump three times and I'd vote for him again. and it's just so much hate in this world. And I see.

I can't see why the Democrats can't open their eyes and see what they're doing. I just don't understand why. Yeah.

Well Well, I mean, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Deborah. I was going to let you take it. I know. But to the point, you know, we did hear about this grand conspiracy, this treasonous conspiracy, and we saw how all these parts were working together. That to some degree as well, yes, we're excited that there's going to be.

Uh some justice, some accountability because we live through it. It was tough. It was a long four years, even though he was the President, just seeing. how the the deep state was constantly trying to take him down. constantly trying to make sure he was an ineffective President.

And and what But we're seeing is now maybe Just a shimmer of hope, it's some justice. But once again, there's a lot of bad actors out there. Yeah.

That we're not even talking about, that may have or may not have charges pending against them, but They're not necessarily coming today, and that clock will run out at some point. Phone lines are open for you. We've got three lines open at 1-800-684-30110. I'd love to pack the calls and just take calls for the rest of the show. Let's do it.

We got two segments. Free open calls Thursday.

Well, that's what they call it. It rolls off the tongue. Straight to Jet. Yeah.

Third time you've said that. I know that's the call. That's all I can think of. It's a good meme. Yeah.

Undercooked fish. Straight to jail to jail. Overcooked chicken. Also, straight to jail. Both lines are open for you at 1-800-684-30-110.

1-800-684-30-110. Hope we bring a little light to your day as we cover the news. And again, support the work of the ACLJ at aclj.org. Great time to do it as we head towards the holidays. Be a part of the team right now, or you can sign the petition also at aclj.org/slash sign.

Be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. I do want to take your phone calls today. I love to pack the lines right now. We got four lines open.

I saw Pat. He said, Really? You're going to take calls only? He got very excited.

Well, I can't take all the calls only if there's no call.

So, right now, we got a couple of calls on hold. We'll do our best to get to those as well, some others. And there was that, it happened right as we were going on the air yesterday. There was that shooting that happened in an ICE facility in Texas, and we had Ted Cruz come out and make some statements. And of course, it seems like another just horribly tragic situation where someone who is very unwell.

Um was trying to commit a crime against ICE officials And not that that's justified. Obviously, that's horrendous. But couldn't even successfully accomplish that. Actually, it took out probably the people he was trying to quote unquote save. Right.

Well, and the reality of this is this is another indication of political violence. This is uh Trails off of.

Well, yeah, what we've seen is what they did in LA with riots, burning cars, all trying to stop ICE activity. You've seen it around the country, the protests that weren't just protests of words, that got in many places not a peaceful assembly, as is guaranteed by the Constitution. And this, once again, you're just seeing this rhetoric of the horrific things they're saying about ICA. ICE in general, and those that work for the government, that put their lives on the line, that are putting in these dangerous situations.

Now you're seeing. Uh people trying to assassinate members of Federal law enforcement. Yeah, I mean, look, the ICE situation has been something that's been very heated, very discussed. And look, we've told you we've kind of a nuanced view on it here at the ACLJ of what's going on, how it should be treated, who are they going after. You know, there's a whole alligator Alcatraz, and that went back and forth of what that situation looked like.

And I told you, if I thought that was actually Alcatraz, if we were talking about creating something that was kind of gimmicky, like what they were branding as that, and we were talking about sending the worst of the worst, the criminals, the people who were doing just the worst atrocious crimes to somewhere like an Alcatraz, more power to you. When it became a, hey, it's going to be a facility to get people in and out of. for ICE and for immigration. Uh sure, there's going to be a mix of very bad actors involved, and I think those need to be taken care of. But there's than the other side of it, which is people that sure were here legally and I saw Tom Holman.

Saying, look, anyone who is here illegally is here illegally. It doesn't really matter why. But to me, there is a difference in the way you treat someone who's been here for 15 years, working and doing all these things, has family here, than someone who's coming here to specifically commit crime. And I mean, violent crime or drug traffic. How you handle that, a whole different situation.

I would love to take your calls though at 1-800-684-30110. But the rhetoric is the problem here because the people that say it. are not the people Who commit the crimes. You're inspiring people. You're almost giving permission to people who are already Probably very unwell.

And they're just looking for something. They're looking for something and you've just told them that this is the worst thing ever. You've just told them that President Trump is Hitler. You've told them these things, the nature of those beasts. And the problem is when you do that, you're forgetting that maybe people can't read between the lines of what you're saying.

And that though I completely disagree with your commentary, that it does, that it could inspire people to do very, very awful things. We've seen that now over the last. Two years. And even over the last few weeks, So the rhetoric does have to change. You've never really heard that kind of rhetoric coming from us.

I've been very, very careful on the words that we say. I've done at least I I've I've tried to do the best job as we can. Hopefully, it's not like John Bolton when they're going to go, well, look at all the horrible things Logan has said. I don't think you'll find them. Maybe you will.

But. We've been pretty careful because I do believe that we have to keep humanity in check. We have to keep the human side of this in check. That it can't just be hate rhetoric, hate rhetoric, hate rhetoric to the point of where you start inspiring not only violence, but the. Violence and murder.

Or you start inspiring even worse, mass murder, things like that. Um And hopefully, we are going to see a change in tune. Does it feel that way right now? But you never know what can happen right now. And I do want to take some calls on this and take some calls, obviously, on the situation involving either Letitia James or James Comey.

I know a lot of you have questions or comments about that. We have two lines open at 1-800-684-3110. Let's jump over to Joseph, who is calling from Florida, who's watching on Pluto TV. I assume that's probably on the Salem News channel, where we're on live each and every day for free. Obviously, we're all of our platforms are free, YouTube, aclj.org.

But that's a great one. If you have a TV, smart TV that maybe has Pluto or any of these, you can just go to Salem News Channel and we broadcast there live 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. Go ahead there, Joseph. Yes, thank you for taking my call.

Love Pluto. Love it. Love it's free. Um so I used to be a DOD Department of Defense contractor, and I'm not really sure, but I was always told that when it came to fraud, There's no statute of limitations. And I've heard with Unter Biden, who committed fraud allegedly on his taxes, Letitia James through talking about fraud.

So I no no, you guys have um good lawyers, you ought to look into it. I've I've under the Good. I'm under the impression that Raw, it has no statute of limitations. All right, Joseph.

Well, we do have an incredible team of lawyers. I'm sure a lot of them are listening right now.

So, you know what, guys? Text me, hit me up with the information. Then we can probably pull it up, but I want to make sure that we're doing it correctly here.

Well, the statute of limitations for mortgage fraud cases is typically 10 years. Obviously, Individual statutes carry different statutory limitations.

Some are shorter, some are longer, some have no statute of limitations. But it does appear that mortgage fraud, as what we would be talking about in the case of Letitia James, would be about 10 years. But there's also sometimes when that actually starts, or if it while the mortgage is still active, maybe there could be variance to the whole situation, too. If you think about other factors that play into a crime like that or any other fraud, where if someone is continuing to carry out the fraud. Then the crime is not completed.

There could be arguments by a prosecutor in situations like that where. You may have started the act at this point, but it didn't ever stop. Therefore, the statute of limitations has not run yet.

So there's things like that that. There are limits, but then a lot of times in the law there are extenuating circumstances that 10 years on a 30-year mortgage? That's a good comment. Yeah.

I like that guy. That's a solid comet.

Solid comet. Give it up. A little hand clap for who was it? I said Richard. Richard, good for you on YouTube.

There you go. I like that. Phone lines again are still open. I told you, I want to take some calls. Let's keep it going.

We've got three minutes left in this segment, the next segment. We're going to pack it up with calls. It's going to be a lot of fun. Let's go to Susan. In Vermont.

Watching also on a Roku device. I don't know what she's watching on, but you know what? Good enough for me. Go ahead and Susan. Hi.

You're watching the Shalom News channel. It's awesome. Great conversation. We're getting the first rain in Vermont and we've had it in like three months And what a ray of sunshine there. Comey's going to be indicted.

The next most important is going to hit. is going to be the hit George Soros. With Rico charges. and shut his operation down. Honest to God, he is Criminally evil.

Well, Susan, a lot of people have issues with George Soros. And look, some of the George Soros Foundation have been taking ads out against us.

So I can't say necessarily that I disagree with the fact that they put together a lot of situations. I don't know how much specifically the guy himself is involved at this point. He is a very old man. His son has mostly taken over the operations. I don't know what's going to happen there, but Susan, sounds like you're very overwhelmed with what's happening in Vermont.

Also, congratulations on the rain. Yeah, that's good.

Well, and she was referring to the fact that DOJ has instructed more than half a dozen U.S. attorneys to start looking into groups funded by George Soros and his Open Society Foundation. And that is in relation to the fact that. There are allegations that a lot of the protest funding, a lot of these things in this country may stem from Soros dollars. And if there is a.

RICO operation there, or there's something to that nature that it should be investigated.

Now, Whether or not that goes anywhere, that is very early stages of something like that. I know a lot of times the The easy thing is like, oh, all the protests are funded by Soros. In reality, They may be by a bunch of different groups. And so I think what the DOJ may be looking at is if there's a common source for funding when it comes to. Nonprofits or activist groups that are funding and helping stage and set up these protests that end up, in many cases, opening the door to violence, to riot, to burning cars in the streets and things of that nature.

I think The DOJ looking at it is something that is probably welcomed, but I would say we are a long way away from seeing anything like that really coming to fruition. Hey, we got one minute left in this segment. When we get back, we're going to take right now, it looks like five calls, at least, maybe six. If you call in right now, 1-800-684-3110. I like hearing from you in these situations.

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We'll be right back with your calls and comments. Coming up. All right, final segment of the day. We got five calls, maybe six calls. Can we do it?

Yes, we can, Will. That was a That was what Barack Obama would say. That's what Bob the Builder would say. Yes. Uh I don't know who you trust more.

I don't know the background of Bob the Builder. He may not be the most trustworthy of builders. I don't know what he does in the construction business. I don't know how long his buildings stand. Let's continue on.

Let's do it. We're gonna go as let's go in order. Why not? We're gonna order those who called in. Pat, California.

Watching on YouTube. Go ahead, Pat. Hey. Logan and Will, you guys are doing yeoman's work over there. Thank you for all your hard work.

And, you know, I just wanted to say regarding, you know, those who commit murder and Crimes, they deserve to face the consequences, and they are to be pitied. simultaneously. And before you know Uh woof. they commit more crimes, it's up to us to be agents of the gospel and mercy. and to put on the full armor of God like I feel like you guys are doing And we all know that You know, uh you can't legislate morality.

But you can pass laws and uphold laws that prevent sin.

So Ethan. Do you guys think that um With Comey, he will really I mean My feeling is these guys always end up getting embarrassed and they get a slap on the wrist and Well, do you think there's really gonna Be a consequence to you, besides him, and going out and writing a book and making a bunch of people. Doing a tour? If this wasn't a President Trump administration, I would say I find it unlikely that anything would happen.

Now, I do believe. You may be shooting too high for what you expect. The consequences debate. I think we've talked about that before. What is the top consequences for this?

Will it be jail time? Will it be a fine? What could it look like? I don't think this is going to jail for life. I don't believe that is going to be on the table.

I'm sure there'll be some kind of deal worked out. But in terms of. Of the public opinion, I understand feeling that way, that it usually ends up like a slap on the wrist, and it does feel that way. And I would feel that way if it wasn't for who I know is in charge right now. That's right.

And when you're talking about perjury before Congress, it's like a five-year Maximum penalty when it comes to what he could be facing here.

So, the fact of the matter, and that's what we were kind of talking about earlier, is that. Yes, this is in relation to all the cross- Crimes that he oversaw, and all of the way he subverted the government and the presidency and weaponized his office. But what It appears from the reporting they are attempting to get an indictment on, isn't something that would. fully fit what we feel like the what he unleashed on this country should be that type of penalty.

So I think that's why you also have to temper your expectations a little bit and think about What justice looks like. Also, it's out of the hands of the DOJ, other than the fact that they will prosecute it. It still is up to the jury to convict. They have to make their case.

So there's a lot of different ways this could go going forward. All right. Thank you so much for calling, Pat. I'm going to take some more phone calls. Fox News right now is covering well the breaking news that Hershey won a lawsuit over their Halloween candy.

I would like to do some research. Tell me what that is. Is it that they thought they sued saying the pumpkin doesn't look Pumpkining enough. Pumpkin enough? Is that really this one we're talking about on the news?

Sure, we've got a big, busy day on the news. Let's go to Mike, who's calling in Tennessee. Watching on YouTube. Mike, go ahead. Yes, sir.

I was calling up. Talk to you about. You know, the current attacks. On the government. What from what seems to be the left side, on the radical left side.

I believe a lot of this is a double-edged sword. Number one, They're don they're stopping the government from doing jobs that needs to be done, which is just illegal in Islamic country. And at the same time they're being pushed. My I believe the Democrats are pushing them.

So they can Slow it down enough so when election time rolls around, if there's anybody left. They know that uh the illegals are automatically going to vote for the Democrats. Because of what they've done for them. Look, we know, Mike, that the election issues have always come off when you really look at what the left has to do. And I say this not dramatically.

I don't even say this jokingly. The uh cultural and racial push that they do often. Comes off so egregious and so close. When you actually look at the reasons why they say there should not be voter ID, the reasons why there should not be some of these situations why they don't. Believe in a tighter border or anything like that.

You are right. It's all politics. It's all politics based around race. And ethnicity. And location.

It never has to do with the individual person. It's about You're giving wide swaths of people. It's why, when they said, can you believe how many people voted for President Trump? More ever in the African-American community, more ever in the Latin community. The way that that's even tracked.

That's just because those have been assumed Democrat. Because why? Because they pander. And they also honestly create when the eyes are open to realize what they're doing, it becomes much clearer.

Okay, thank you so much, though, Mike, for calling here in Tennessee. All right, should we take some more calls? Yeah, let's go to more phone calls. Let's see what. See what we got next, Logan.

All right. Let's go, Liz in Texas. Listening on the radio, go ahead. Uh yeah, hi. I'm actually a teacher, and I've gotten a lot of these kids that came up with the caravans in my classroom, so you've got to hear me out on this.

When you give an inch and say got to treat these people who come here and worked and all that differently than the ones who are doing crime. You need to understand they're all doing crimes because you have to understand these ones who are over here working They're helping the other ones get Yeah. And I'm getting kids in my classroom over the last six years and I'm going to get really emotional. I've had these little girls come up by coyotes. It's been raised multiple times on the way up.

And the problem at the border is really the human. trafficking element And it's the kids who are suffering. I obviously can't speak into that. I will not disagree with you on that. I will not say that this isn't something we need to be really taking seriously.

Of course, we should be when it comes to human trafficking, taking the most seriously. That is why we have to straighten, you know, really get the border in check here. And I'm not calling against that. I'm just talking about in the way the rhetoric is taking place, even from both sides of this. When you have these sort of attacks on an ICE facility, it is because the rhetoric is not necessarily always spreading lies, but it's also spreading.

A different kind of emotion. When you have a parody video show up on the Department of Homeland Security's X account where though I did think it was funny and I laughed, I'll be honest, to the theme to Pokémon where you gotta catch them all. And then you have a situation where there's people getting shot in an ICE facility because they thought that was they took that too far and thought it was inappropriate or whatever it may be. And of course, the left is saying, look how horrible this is. Both sides, I'm not saying anyone is responsible or not responsible, including kids in your classroom.

I feel horrible about that, of course.

Well, and I think also to the point, there is a lot. I feel like a big difference between what illegal immigration to this country, which was not appropriate, not the way that we should have handled it from decades ago. To the last Biden administration and the way it became so. out of control. And it increased the criminal activity because the coyotes and the cartels found it to be more profitable.

We only had a minute left. Hey, can we put Ray up real quick? Right. You were on hold for a little while. The other two, I'm sorry, Jill and Jim, we're not going to get to you today.

Ray, go ahead quickly with your comments. You got like 20 seconds. Ray, you there? Yeah, I saw Rick Rinnell on Gutfeld, and I invited Gutfeld to go to the Kennedy for a week. And uh maybe having uh plastic chip.

For show, like Action Tip and Link. You can all donate prayer and join a prayer group. And I just wonder what happened to the kids' videos you had. Yeah, thank you, Ray. I appreciate that.

We still have those kids' videos up there. You can go watch our old videos. We don't produce near as many now the kids have been back to school. But you know what? Maybe we'll bring that back, Ray.

Thank you so much. You can obviously support the work of the ACLJ at aclj.org. Keep it going. Thank you so much for being a part of the show today and calling in. We'll talk to you tomorrow.