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For call one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Covering a lot of things, but number one is the breaking news item that articles of impeachment have been filed against Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
Secretary Hegseth went on a press conference this morning, had a lot to say about it, as you can imagine, not thrilled. And who filed these articles of impeachment? Of course, outgoing. Friend of the administration, Republican. Who is it?
Will Thomas Massey? Thomas Massey, of course, decided on the way out the door. I am going to decide to push and push and push, and this time instead of filing it against President Trump, which would actually maybe take some guts, decided to file it against Pete Hegseth. And again, a very stunt-like maneuver coming here at the end, but again, no less painful. I'm sure if you are Pete Hegseth and the administration, as I've said before, they may be able to weaponize and use the.
Political nature of impeachment now lower the bar of impeachment. Start doing this. It doesn't make the process any easier, even if you know the outcome. And who knows what the outcome will be now?
Now that we have had such a drastic shift in the House and Senate, now we do know they haven't necessarily hit that threshold to remove someone. Or to break the filibuster, whatever it may be, but it's still a a painful experience. And of course, they're pushing back on it, saying this is due to a lot of issues with is it with the war in Iraq?
Well, yeah. And here's the thing I want to get into. We'll we'll break it all down for you. We'll tell you what each of the eight articles are in the next segment. But at the end of the day, here's what Article One is.
Right. This is from the the resolution here from. Thomas Massey going against who is it? Pete Hexith, Article One, waging war in contravention of the War Powers Resolution of nineteen seventy three, Section two C.
So that's related to the war in Iran. That, if if he was being honest, would be against President Trump, the Commander in Chief.
So, Secretary Massey, no, Secretary Massey, Congressman Massey, here, outgoing Congressman, is honestly taking a coward's way out by not calling out who actually would be responsible for waging the war in Iran, and that'd be the President of the United States. If he really wanted to do impeachment and make a statement. He would go after who he thinks who is responsible for it—the President, the commander in chief. Instead, he's going after the secretary of war, secretary of defense, who is a subordinate of the commander in chief, carrying out the wishes of the commander in chief. But no, instead he takes what he thinks is the easy political win, and it's it's frankly pretty disgusting to see happen.
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We can. I don't think there's nothing wrong about this. Recently, talking about will he be you know still the Secretary of War for this next portion of the administration after you had. President Trump on 60 Minutes say, you know, I'm definitely going to be shifting some things, but I like him. He did put out a statement.
President Trump said Pete Hegseth gets an A plus plus plus for his defense against a disgruntled, angry, defeated former Congressman Thomas Massie, a total loser from President Donald J. Trump. And of course, look, I think there is that. What may protected his job may have been defiance of someone like Thomas Massie. Yeah, because when Thomas Massie you know comes for the attack, I think.
President Trump is not someone who is going to easily back down to that.
So you know what, Pete Hegseth may be in just a small way able to think, because I don't know if President Trump really cares or would love to do the exact opposite of what a Thomas Massey would push for. And you know what, there may be times I agree with President Trump, times I disagree with President Trump. I'm with them on this one. Phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. Again, the ACLJ is not backing down.
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So don't go anywhere. I've got a big list here of all the things we've done recently, and we'll get into that work of the ACLJ in just a moment. Welcome back to Secular. We are talking about the big news, really, and again, it shouldn't be laughed at. This is a real moment here, where you have Pete Hegseth now having articles of impeachment filed against him, Secretary of War, former Secretary of Defense, if you will, but Secretary of War, and against and from Thomas Massey, outgoing primaryed.
Representative of the United States, but of course somebody who has had a vendetta against a lot of the administration over the last few months.
Someone who has been a pretty raging antisemite. I feel like for a good portion of his career, you gave me a. No, I mean it's. I'm glad that we soon will no longer have to listen to Thomas Massey or hear about him because he's going to be out of a job. But I think he's going to try to run for President or something like that, and this is part of that that launching of this.
And and it's so frustrating when you read through these articles of impeachment. It's a 37 page document, and and really most of them, if he were being honest, but he knows he can't politically because a lot. Of his base is actually a fan of President Trump would be actually trying to impeach President Trump, and so here's what these eight articles are.
Now, in the actual resolution, it's like Article One, waging war in contravention of the War Powers Resolution of 1973, Section Two C. I'm going to give it in more plain English, so instead of then you having us to go look up the statute and tell you what the statute is, what the meat of what he's saying is the high crime or misdemeanor. Here, and that's Article One: starting the war with Iran without congressional authorization, which once again he was doing at the direction of the President.
So that would be the President doing high crimes and misdemeanors, not necessarily the Secretary of War here. Article Two: define Congress's vote to end the Iran War. Article three would be is in reference to continuing the Iran war beyond a legal deadline. Article four is related to the the incident where the school that was placed on the IRGC base that was hit by a missile because of outdated intelligence saying is sidestepping laws to prevent civilian deaths.
Now, if you were to look at any law of war, while those tragedies happen, that was not an intentional target. Of a civilian target, Article Five is related to the extrajudicial drug boat killings.
So those are the cartels and other boats that are being hit in the ocean. Article Six is related to when he pushed back on Senator Kelly's "Don't Follow Illegal Orders" ad and tried to go after some of his rank and things of that nature. Then that, and I think of all of these, that's the only one that truly would fall under only the Secretary of Defense, because that was kind of some of the things he was doing as as the head of the the Secretary of Defense. Obviously, then Article Seven, kidnapping a foreign leader, that's related to the Maduro, the taking of him when there was largely praised. Largely praised, also at the direction of the President, saying, "Hey, there's a warrant for him.
Send in our military and go get him." So once again, is that the high crime and misdemeanor of the Secretary of War, or is it of the President of the United States? In Thomas Massey's opinion, then Article Eight is starting an unauthorized war in Yemen is what it's related to, and that's specifically the the trading of fire with the Houthi rebels. Once again, you're looking at this, and it's like, is anyone really one upset that we're taking out Houthi rebels? Two, the other angle to that is that they've been firing on shipping lanes.
So is that really a is it a defensive maneuver of targeting Houthis or is it starting a war?
So all of this to say is one: you take the majority of these, whether or not you are more libertarian minded, like he is. Yeah, go back to I mean Vietnam, go to the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, go to any of the action by Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. You could. Frame any of the actions that they use the military with to fit almost much more egregiously. Not exactly all of them, but six out of eight.
Yeah, I mean, I think many of these are ones that we easily forget. I think there's a bite we'll pull up. There he kind of listed them, including you know the Chinese spy balloon that we forgot about that everyone sort of moved on from. But I think you know only fair we pull that up. We should hear from Thomas Massey himself.
He did talk about this, so let's hear that bite twenty three. What I what one of the things that I really want out of this is to litigate whether Congress has war powers or not. Like this is I've got Republican colleagues who know I'm right on this. They're worried about the politics of it, and what we what I'm really trying to do here with some of these articles is litigate three. Three provisions of the War Powers Resolution, and have other have other folks violated them as well?
Yeah, not not as blatantly or as egregiously as Pete Hegseth, but somebody's got to put their foot down and say, Are we going to follow the laws that are on the books? Are we going to follow the Constitution? And the best way to do that is to have an impeachment against Pete Hegseth. What an absurd. Reasoning behind how you're going to have an impeachment.
The best way to do that are we going to follow the Constitution? Are we going to, you know, we got to put our foot down somewhere, and this is where you've decided again, definitely a political move.
Well, and once again, I go back to where I think that that he's using cowardice here.
Now, if you really want to litigate the separation of powers in this country. Congressman Massey, why are you going after the Secretary of War here? If you want to litigate the separation of powers between Congress and the United in the the executive branch, the President of the United States, because a unitary executive is what the Constitution prescribes. That branch of government is the President. Not his his cabinet members, not those he appoints and get confirmed.
He is the executive branch. If you truly believe, and what you say here, I really want this to to litigate whether Congress has war powers or not.
Well, litigating it is not the purpose of impeachment. But if really, if you're saying that the war powers resolution provisions that you bring up here. And the Constitution and the and the rule of law is what you are going after here. Then you pick the wrong target. Man up, go after the President of the United States.
No, but that may hurt your chances down the road if you want to run for President or something, because maybe you'd alienate more of the MAGA base that still support President Trump that maybe don't like Pete Hegseth. No, you did it as a political stunt, and we'll play even some of Pete Hegseth in the next segment as well. But you did this as a political stunt because it was the easy target, because probably some of your your staffers told you polling for Pete Hegseth. Within your base is much lower than polling for the President.
So yeah, that's why you're going after Pete Hegseth. And you know what? There's a procedural vote on this at 5:30 Eastern tonight.
So that's the motion to table whether or not this will just get put aside, or whether or not they will move forward. And you know he's going to get all the Democrats on his side. Will he get some defectors in the Republican Party that are more massy-minded or outgoing, so they've got nothing left to lose that try to shake things up a little bit? We'll find out. We'll find out tonight at five thirty.
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I think as we were talking about this, it's only fair also to hear directly from Secretary Hegseth, and we have some sound and some video if you're watching right now. Then I think we need to play.
Well, that's right.
So this is from this press conference he gave this morning. Obviously, these articles of impeachment were introduced and is being forced into a vote by Thomas. The outgoing congressman from Kentucky, and so Secretary Hegseth stood defiant this morning. He gave a press conference at the Pentagon. This is some of what he had to say.
We've got other things as well. I think it's important to hear, though, from him. Byte fourteen, clear, but what this resolution actually does, it tells our enemies. Iran, the cartels, every adversary watching that the United States will actually punish its own warriors and its own civilian leadership for successfully executing lawful military operations. It tells them that a single rogue legislator, loaded with personal animus for the President, can attempt to veto national security decisions made by the duly elected commander in chief.
It puts a target on the backs of American warriors by signaling that Congress will undermine their missions in real time. This is not patriotism. This is sabotage, and I think a lot of that has to say from what the secretary is saying. There goes to what we've said about things like the Hague, the ICC, the the International Criminal Court, and when they have gone after American soldiers, when they have gone after Israel, when we are not a party to that system, and the ACLU has stood in the gap for the the American military, those that the ICC wanted to. Prosecute for war crimes, for being involved in the Iraq War, for the being involved in Afghanistan.
You know what that did? It also it puts a target on the back of American service members. It's similar to what is happening here, but instead of being a foreign court in the International Criminal Court far away, this is coming from within the House of Representatives itself. It puts a target on those that would follow orders and that are lawful orders from the President, from the Secretary of War, when he is going after the Secretary of War here. He is putting a target on the back of every American service member because this is becoming a policy dispute, and he's using the tool, the mechanism of impeachment, like was used against President Trump in the first administration, to air out policy disputes in the public forum in a way that is now lowered the bar, and we we warned of that in the first impeachment over the policy dispute over Ukraine.
Over the phone call, where they went after him to try and get him thrown out of office once again. You're seeing it here: an outgoing congressman who's about to have zero authority as a member of the House of Representatives is just going to go back to being a civilian. Is going to now have no opportunity to do anything other than, as he says, "This is not. This is not patriotism. This is sabotage." He is putting down landmines on his way out the door.
That's all I've got to say about that. I think we should take this call. All right, a lot of people are calling in, but I do want to hear from you. We have a few lines open at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Don in Illinois.
Don, I think Don speaks for a lot of people. Go ahead.
Well, I was watching. I love the show, but I had a couple of things I'd like to say. One, there's a victory in this thing. And it has to do with all of all of these deadbeat dinosaurs that we're getting rid of that have been hiding in the closets all the time. As far as they're trying to act like they're true conservatives and they're not, the Susan Collins, the Thune, and all these—they need to clear house.
If we're going to get rid of them, let's get rid of them. The second thing I'd like to see is Trump stand with Pete because he talks about loyalty and. The way Pete goes, so does all the other followers of Trump. Yeah, he needs to stand with Pete Hixson. He's he's he's great.
Yeah, Don. I actually was just saying that earlier on in the show. Whether you agree with, by the way, Pete Hegseth or not, you may not like him. You may like him. I'm not here to pass judgment on that.
I do think President Trump, like you said, he talks about loyalty all the time. But he also has recently said, you know, that he'll be making some changes to cabinet. By the way, that's nothing new. Two years in. A lot of times you see a lot of turnover in cabinets.
It's usually not personnel; it's usually just okay. How are we going to fulfill our goals over the next two years? Who's going to fit in that spot?
Now I know there's been a lot of heat on Pete Hegseth to be that person who is removed.
Now you have Thomas Massey filing these impeachment. I think if anything. You'll actually have the reverse effect, and I think you are right, Don. You'll actually probably see President Trump back Pete up more, and he actually said that in a statement today. Pete Hegseth gets an A plus plus plus again, like an old eBay review for his defense against a disgruntled, angry, defeated former Congressman Thomas Massie.
A total loser. I mean, that's what he said. I didn't say that.
Well, you you did say it in his voice. I was trying to make sure people were. I didn't. He's a total loser.
Well, here's here's also the thing. When you look at all of this and to what Don said, to some degree, I think the reason he did that early morning press conference was to one get ahead of the entire news cycle for the day, so people would be talking about it. But also, yeah, I saw the for the benefit of his boss. I saw him before I saw the articles of impeachment. Right, and I think that that is the the end goal here as well.
Is he was also performing for his boss, showing I am strong. I am going to stand here. I am going to do my job as long as you will have me, Mister President, because I serve at the pleasure of the President, not of Thomas Massey, who's trying to get him thrown out of his job. And Caitlin Collins just asked President Trump about this. Let's hear what he had to say.
Bite eighteen. Y'all Simba.
So even if he's impeached, you're going to give him your defense secretary. We won two wars. He was in charge. We all won. I had great people.
You what? Massey says that he's carried out. Massey's a loser, just like you're a loser at CNN. Just like your ratings are a loser. Massey is a loser, stone cold loser.
I ran. I did something that nobody's done. I took on a guy that was, in his own way, sort of popular in his state, and I beat him badly. I don't know if you heard that, Logan, but he thinks that Thomas Massey is a loser, stone cold loser, right? Stone cold loser.
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Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, and of course we've heard from now Pete Hegseth. We've heard from President Trump, and we've heard from Thomas Massey, the disgruntled Republican, as Donald Trump calls him, stone cold loser. Who on his way out, sort of a parting shot, has decided to cause a bit of chaos. And you know what is so interesting to me as well is I'm glad that President Trump is calling him a stone cold loser, and that he is a loser. And one, he, I mean, quite literally lost his race because he was primaryed.
Primaryed. Let's let's remember that a Republican won in that in that seat, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. And here's the other thing too. Let's look at at what he has said recently. When he lost to in that primary, he said, "I tried to call and concede, but it took a little while because I had to call Tel Aviv." And his his opponent is a Kentuckian, former military. Like all of it is just absurd.
Just throwing out there that you know it's the Jews that control everything. Anti-Semitic lie. But then here's the other thing. November sixth. Here's what he tweeted about the midterm losses: Not oh, I'm a proud libertarian.
Yeah, not because we're spending too much money across the board. Not because of our national debt. Not because of of the budget deficit is what makes things more expensive. Not because of the the Fed controlling the interest rate and central banking in and of itself is is not a great economic system. Those are like traditional libertarian talking points, right?
Like he could have ran real well with that. Like we're getting too much, like Democrats. That's what he could have said, and so therefore they want no, no, no. Here's what he said: Republicans hit a wall because they kissed the wall in all caps.
So the wall being obviously the Western Wall in Jerusalem, meaning because Republicans. White or bowed down to Jews, bowed down to to Israel and to the Jewish people, and you know, kiss the wall, the the former what they referred to as the wailing wall.
Now, you know, the last the last standing wall of the old temple. That somehow was enough to cause the election. And look, JD Vance said it. President Trump referred it as well. It's not like they didn't refer it, but they didn't refer it in ways that were necessarily a horribly offensive.
They just said that the American people have.
Somewhat turned on Israel, and look—that's that's more of a fact than it is a a statement of of accountability. This is saying, "How dare they?" I mean, it's a almost a triumphant statement of like, "I was right all along." They—they, I mean, it's so disgusting, and I'm so glad, good riddance, that he is out of Congress. But once again, he's doing all of this right now on his way out the door, not to get rid of Pete Hegseth. He's doing it on his way out the door to try and boost his status.
So, mark my words; he's running twenty twenty eight. He will be running for President in twenty twenty eight. He's got to find. He'll be running on as a platform. Don't kiss the wall.
I think might be his slogan coming up. He's got to find a way to make money. I mean, that's the thing. These guys all got to figure out a way. And what's the grift?
What are they going to do? They're going to find a way into find that group of anti Israel conservatives. Has been way easier than expected. Boiling under of antisemitism has always been there, but of course, when you are given it. Credibility, and you're given access, and you're finally able to say it out loud.
Of course, that's going to rile up a very specific base, and I, I pray the Republican Party defies it and denies it. But again, it's never to me been about a certain administration. We are seeing the attempt of a formation of a new government in Israel, not run by Benjamin Netanyahu. Do I think that will get through? That's a whole other story.
We can get into a little bit with Jeff Balaban coming up from ACLJ Jerusalem. But regardless. Who is in charge there? They have been an ally of ours since the formation, and maybe we need to keep an eye on them. Not like we are doing, you know, unlike how we are treating.
I feel like even some of our more adversarial countries. We are trying to figure out how to work with them closer. We are trying to figure out how to distance ourselves from Israel. Bad idea, and I hope the Republican Party pushes back upon it. With that, though, phone lines are open.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. Jeff Bolvahn, RCLJ, Jerusalem is joining us. But I also wanted to take a minute to say we have a few lines open for you right now.
So if you want to be on the air, phone lines are open for you at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. Jeff, I did want to talk to you because it feels like there is a bit of you know two sides kind of coming at this information right now that we have. Whether that is the Pro-Israel side, the anti-Israel side. You have President Trump, even in his 60 Minutes interview, saying, "Look, I think some of the support for Israel has dropped, and maybe that was a concern of the election." And at the same time, you have someone like Stephen Miller being replacing Susie Wilds, chief of staff.
So, and as we know, that that would present a very different story.
So, I wanted to get your feedback and thoughts. I'm currently where this administration clearly is not necessarily playing both sides here. But is actively looking at the relationship with Israel and what it had to do with the results of the election and whether we agree with it. Was obviously we don't. We do know that the world of sort of the spiraling anti-Semitism and anti-Israel and anti-Zionism has certainly played a part in American politics forever.
But a lot over the last few months. Yeah, I think these things really relate. When when Donald Trump became President in the first instance in 2016, when he was elected, he had built an extraordinary coalition. It was a coalition that extended far beyond the Republican coalition until that point, and it extended. Not as much into the center, although it did.
It picked up a lot of people because, as of his economic policies, but also on the more fringe, the more extreme towards the right, let's say, which is the way people usually see it. Even though we've discussed here that it's more of a circle or a horseshoe. Anyway, among those are people who came in and they really haven't left, and they make a lot of noise now. And the party is going through what the party, what the Democrats had to go through when they moved out to their extreme, and you're seeing this in. Examples like Thomas Massey, who represents something which is so out of the mainstream of what was considered normal in Republican politics.
They talk about the Overton window, which is what's permitted to talk about in politics. It's it's we're in a different building, let alone a different window in the room. And and so we see what Thomas Massey is doing, and this notion of, or even the vice President, who's alleging that somehow the result of the election, which was a midterm election, that was. A blowout, but hardly the worst blowout at all. It's it's it actually there are all kinds of charts showing how it's it's fairly mild compared to a lot of other midterm elections.
But trying to use this to bash this issue, it's all about Israel. It's all about Israel because the Iran war is fought on behalf of Israel. Thomas Massie is perhaps the greatest cheerleader of that now, still serving in either house of Congress. Certainly is a Republican. He is, and so going after the Secretary of War.
Who has been doing an incredible job? If you think about it, in terms of what we've managed to accomplish so far, is is part of this obsession. And I think the party has to make a real decision now: Is it going to go the way of the Democrats and be taken over by its most extreme, radical fringe, or is it going to revert and try to push out its fringe? And that's a decision it's going to have to make now. And we're seeing it as exactly what's happening in the aftermath of the election.
Jeff, I think there's there's a lot to unpack here. With one, what we've been talking about with what the outgoing Congressman Thomas Massie is is doing here with trying to impeach Secretary Hegseth, as well as when you talk about what's going on inside the the Trump administration, because you do have what we had been talking about for a while is kind of the the the apprentice style pitting against each other of Secretary Rubio and the Vice President who have very different foreign policy views, especially when it comes to Iran and the State of Israel, I would say. But then you also what's not talked about as much, and I think because of the the the public appearance that how much that Stephen Miller is the architect of of things like the immigration policy of President Trump, which he was back in. 2016. He's been with him since the the escalator ride.
That's when really Stephen Miller was kind of first discovered in this Trump orbit. But when you think about The fact that he's a Jewish American, he is very strongly pro-Israel. His statements of what how he thinks that Israel should prosecute the war against the Hamas in Gaza are very very strong. I think it's another angle that isn't talked about as much that him being elevated to arguably maybe the second most powerful person in in the world, if but neck and neck with the vice. President, right there is showing another angle of of this policy towards our greatest ally that is going to be tested.
I think in in the years ahead.
Well, part of the problem of the emergence of the fringe is this notion that we're going to do exactly what the left does, which is instead of looking at how people are as Americans by American values, by constitutional issues and fidelity to the Constitution, we're going to divide people based on their identity, based on their faith, or based on their color, or based on you know their nationality of origin. And obviously, that's the most unAmerican concept imaginable. Stephen Miller, who is a proud American Jew. Is also and and you mentioned he's been with Trump. We saw him visibly even as far back as the famous escalator.
But the truth is, it was an incredible interview with one of his professors who said back in two thousand and three, Stephen Miller declared that in his future he wanted to be. I think it was chief of staff to the President. And when he was asked which President, he said President Trump. There's a professor of his political science who's it's all over the internet who's saying as far back as that.
So it's not just that Stephen Miller. And and the argument is it's not just that Stephen Miller had this incredible prescience; it's that he's been working all along to help the President become the President, and he is behind some of he's been. I'm not sure if he invented or he's just been behind pushing some of the most important signature issues, including all the issues that the extreme fringe seems to claim that they're America first because they want to protect our borders. There is no one on, there's no one anywhere in the United States besides President Trump himself who's been stronger on this issue than Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller represents everything that they claim they want for America.
If they would get past their Jew hatred and focus on what's good for America, and I think it's actually wonderful that Stephen Miller, who by the way was attacked relentlessly, that he was attacked as a Nazi, he's attacked as a racist, he's attacked as a white supremacist, you know, he's none of the above. He is he is a proud patriot. He, by the way, when you hear him talk about constitutional issues and legal issues, they're remarkable masterclasses in very brief moments. He he managed to dominate the screen when he's talking to hostile interviewers on media. I think it's.
I think if his position becomes more and more open and more and more public, I think that he himself is the best argument against the anti-Semitism of the radical right.
Well, I I go back to this Thomas Massie impeachment today because on its face it is so absurd, you know. And we we said it would happen. We said that when they impeach President Trump, that they were going to lower the bar and it was just going to become a tool they use with policy disputes. But and this is when you you start to talk to individuals that claim to be libertarian, and I say claim to be because I think a lot of people that say they're libertarian these days it's a catch-all. Being an anti semite and saying that we're wasting so much money, they control us.
We want sovereignty of America, et cetera, et cetera. When in reality, if he were true to his word and not just trying to elevate himself, why didn't he try to impeach Barack Obama for extrajudicial killings of American citizens with drones while he was the President of the United States? That's right. American citizens were killed by drone strikes that were targeted, not incidental. Or our secretary Austin for any of the horrible policies that happened during the Biden administration, because Thomas Massie has been in the House of Representatives since 2012, so he's had a long time to do all this.
Just now, on his way out the door, he's going to impeach Secretary Hegseth right after. He says that Republicans lost; they hit a wall because they kissed the wall. You are not a libertarian. I don't care what you say; you are just an anti-Semite that is using a movement that can sound popular because people are fiscally conservative, and to spread your hatred. I think you're saying something very important.
Also, when you say he's an anti-Semite, because you know there are people who say things that maybe the the sentiment itself or the trope itself might be walk into anti-Semitic grounds. It might it might betray that someone has certain hostile feelings about Jews. Massey is. More or less defined by his obsessive hatred of Jews. I mean, it's it's it overwhelms almost everything else in public life, and he's been using it, especially since he lost this election.
Sort of, he had no reason to even mitigate it in some way to sound less insane. And it's if you look through what he says and what he posts, it is the poster child for how self-destructive this notion of obsessively hating Jewish people. Is because he is self-destructive, but and and the problem is he's trying to bring everyone else around with him, and so yeah, I mean, it's it's it's hard to overstate how truly anti-Semitic Thomas Massey is, not in on occasion, but how it seems to overwhelm every other. Fidelity to any other principle that he might have, whether it's faith, whether it's patriotism, anything else seems to fall in the way of his obsessive hatred for Jews, and it's coming out in this way. And now he's attacking not just the Secretary of War, but honestly, he's he's damaging America in terms of an ongoing struggle with an Iranian regime that is still set on trying to destroy America.
And that, remember, whatever else you want to say about their nuclear ambitions, yes or no, it is undeniable. That this regime has killed literally killed and maimed literally thousands of Americans, most of them wearing our uniform. Of the mil of military service, and Thomas Massey is now standing with them against us. That's right. We talk about self-destructive.
I mean, a person who lost and got primaryed, right? For this kind of rhetoric, but has still doubled down and continues on his fight against the administration. With that, we'll be back in just a minute. Thanks, Jeff, for joining us. We'll be back in just a moment.
I do want to hear from you. We got four lines open: one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero. What do you think about this whole discussion? Do you think there's merit here? Do you think it's going to go anywhere?
Last chance to get on the show today: one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten. We'll be right back. I think we need a little bit of a reminder here before we take some of these calls of really what we're talking about when you have. Pete Hegseth now having articles of impeachment filed against him. We got to remember what didn't get articles of impeachment filed.
And Pete brought this up, Secretary of War brought this up, about all the different things over the last few years that have not led to any kind of impeachment of a Secretary of War or at the time Secretary of Defense or even a a President of the United States. Let's hear from Pete Hegseth, Bite 15, to kick this off. You know, five years ago, America was humiliated in Kabul, Afghanistan, and every enemy on earth took notice. But somehow, as the President pointed out yesterday, no impeachment vote for Lloyd Austin for that terrible withdrawal—not even one vote—or no impeachment vote for when he went AWOL for over a week. No impeachment vote for when he let a Chinese spy balloon fly over the country for over a week.
You see, President Trump ended that kind of wokeness and weakness. Peace through strength, not as a slogan, but as a way of war. I mean, some of those obviously we remember very clear, like whether it was the withdrawal from Afghanistan. I think it's easy to forget some of that, the loss of life, but the little ones. Remember how much that Chinese spy balloon dominated the news cycle, and then we kind of just forgot it ever happened.
They also tried to gaslight the American people. It was not could be a weather balloon. It's weather balloon that got off course, right? Just had some incredible lot of recording devices inside of it, and like very advanced signals intelligence that they are trying to collect as they go across. Quite literally, the entire country, and yet our Secretary of Defense and our Department of Homeland Security under the Biden administration could do nothing to stop that from from happening.
My goodness, and this is what we're talking about. Why? Because of his hatred of Israel. Because Israel. Forced us into war with Iran.
Forced all of this upon the American people because they control the American people. Clearly, yada yada yada. It's old. It's tired. But that's what he's doing.
All right. Let's take some of these calls. Let's start with Raymond, who's been on for a while. Raymond, Ohio. Go ahead.
Um. Yes. Thank you for having me. Um. I just want to um say one quick little thing.
This is bigger than. Head chef, this is bigger than Donald Trump. This is bigger than Democrat or Republican. You know, it's about the truth. This country is was founded on Christian beliefs, and it's got so far from those beliefs and those values that everything is a lie.
If it's not the word of God, it's a lie. And we're so far away from the word of God, everybody, everybody, and nothing is going to change until we go back to the word. And you know what I'm saying. And that's the bottom line. You know, way before headsets, way before Donald Trump.
You know, hey, lies have been told. And lives have been protected, and they're still being told, and they're still being protected. Yeah. And I don't want to hurt anybody's feeling, but I'll just say the truth: I'm Semitic. What about standing up for the Semitics that's here in America?
Israel, okay, Israel, okay. But you got to take care of home first. You know what I'm saying? And that has not been done by head chef. Donald Trump, the Democrats, the Republicans, or you know, I'm saying.
Hey Raymond, I am only cutting you off so I have time to get other calls. I think there's a lot that you have to say there that is true. I think there's a lot of people that feel that way that the lies have gotten out of control, that we have found ourselves way off path in terms of where the American people truly, actually live and breathe and want to see thrive. We live in a world. I always say politics pretty gross.
It's I always say it's a blood sport. I spend a lot of time in Washington D.C. not My favorite place in the world, you can feel the heaviness that sits over that city. Whether that is whether it's even if you have your friends in office, there is a heaviness because there is dark forces at work always there. And I don't say that is some kind of you know some sort of fictional you know just proverbial thing.
I mean that in a literal sense. And there has to be good people who do fight back against it. I'm very proud to say that there are some good people who are doing just that. But it's not easy. It Is very tough.
Well, and also remember to Raymond's point that the the Democrats push back so hard against the Doge effort. To try and make government efficient, to try to eliminate waste, a lot of that was in foreign aid. Remember, yep, that USAID. They lost their minds when they targeted USAID, but all of a sudden, the three billion that goes to Israel that is then actually comes back to our economy because it's money sent to buy American arms, so it's paying people's jobs and salaries in the heartland of America. That was what was ruining our country.
That is why people couldn't eat. That is why. Egg prices were so high. No, it was a lie the whole time. They were just trying to protect their pet projects and push anti-Semitism.
It's as simple as that. I like Stan's call. Our comment coming in from Alabama. Stan, go ahead. Yeah, my comment about Massey is the fact that what he's saying is telling the world that we are not together, and it's also telling Iran.
That because we got people in our our government that hates Israel as much as they do, they don't really feel like they need to sign any peace agreements because they know half of us are in support, the other half of us are not.
So every time we try to get close to a peace agreement, they launch bombs and they launch. You know the yeah yeah, right, Stan. They uh they want to to have this instability. They want that to be the truth. They want to showcase that on the world stage that America seems like a mess.
Because you're right. Why would you decide to make peace? Why would you decide to do that if you feel like well, in six months. We're gonna have no six months in eight weeks. We are gonna have a brand new government that maybe is gonna be more on our side.
Well, that's what I was going to say. Even to Stan's point is that it's that's exactly what the Secretary of War was saying. It's telling our enemies, Iran, the cartels, every adversary, that the United States will punish its own warriors and its own civilian leadership for successfully executing lawful military operations. He's not wrong. That's why it's like who needs the Hague when you have Thomas Massey?
Because they're going to go and they're going to put a target on the back of American soldiers, the men. Women in uniform that put their lives on the line for this country for this political stunt that's being pulled in the twilight of his congressional career. I want to take really quick this last call, Robin in Virginia. Robin, really got about a minute. Go ahead.
Okay. Confusion is one of the greatest weapons, right, to throw into the mix. And if Massey or anyone else in the past. Wants to come to a microphone and throw accusations, and for whatever motivation, I just really appreciated you guys airing. And also, I happened to come out on my feed this morning.
The comments that Hexest said that for Pete to step up to the microphone. Explain what's behind these accusations. It's almost like you you take off the the makeup. Nobody, everybody. You know, sometimes you don't want to see the ugly truth.
You need to take the makeup off. America really likes the looks of things, and we need to take the makeup off and look at what's really underneath that.
So I really appreciate what you guys do and giving us a format to be able to get real news, not like yellow journalism and all the lies. And I just thought it was great because we haven't had such an art. Particulate, you know, defense or you know, secretary of war person in a long time, and I thought Hextep did a great job explaining what would what it what's What it's all, you know, what it is.
So, thank you for making my call, Robin. Thank you so much for calling. Thanks for the kind words on the show and everything we do here. And that's a great way to wrap up. And with that, again, that's today's show.
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