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And now, your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. It's Friday, August 15th. Welcome to the broadcast. Will Haynes is joining me in the studio right now.
And of course, we are all monitoring as closely as we can, though nothing has really gotten started just yet, that Alaska summit between President Trump. And Vladimir Putin. This is going to be a big moment. It could be very long. It could be very short.
We know President Trump even has hinted at: look, if it's going well, they'll do some kind of press conference. They'll make some conversation pieces. I'll let you know what happened. If it's not going well, he may just walk out and maybe over very quickly. We will keep you abreast at that.
I don't think a lot of that's going to come up during the show today because we are still waiting on even the arrival, I believe, of President Trump right now to Alaska.
So there's probably still some time ahead. I'd love to get your thoughts on that, though, at 1-800-68-43110. 1-800-68-430-110. How do you feel about this summit happening right now between President Trump and Vladimir Putin? Do you think this could be successful?
Are you happy that President Trump has decided to do this and meet with someone who is largely not loved in the world right now with Vladimir Putin? But also, just a little bit of fun out of this: Hillary Clinton will. I wish, you know, if we lived in the olden times, if we lived in the Pony Express era, if we lived in the era of the founding fathers, this statement would be outrageous. Of course, we can hear the Tone. We can hear sarcasm.
You can hear some of the verbiage that's coming out, but it also shows the lack of trust and the lack of sincerity coming from people on the other side of the aisle, if you will. And this was from Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton was on Jessica Tarlov's podcast, which actually I probably would like to hear. I think that could be an interesting one. I think it's Raging Moderates.
That's the name of the podcast. And you're going to have Hillary Clinton on. Right. But I actually wouldn't mind hearing Jessica Tarloff. I say she goes into the Lion's Den, if you will, pretty much every week, every day.
So, you know what? Good for her. She's a podcast, and she had Hillary on. And let's just take a listen to what they had to say. We are on the precipice of a meeting between President Trump and President Putin in Alaska.
Drawing on your experience as Secretary of State, if you were en route to Alaska, what would you be looking to do? Get? What does an acceptable deal look like? He is not meeting with a friend. He is meeting with an adversary.
And an adversary who wants to see the destruction of the United States and the Western Alliance. But if he could bring about the end to this terrible war where Putin is the aggressor invading a neighbor country, trying to change the borders, if he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor, had to, in a way, validate Putin's vision of Greater Russia, but instead could really stand up to Putin to make it clear there must be a ceasefire, there will be no exchange of territory, and that over a period of time, Putin should be actually withdrawing from the territory he seized in order to demonstrate good faith efforts, let us say, not to threaten European states. Security. If President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize. She nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Obviously, she says it with a bit of sarcasm, but you know, it goes into pretty much more detail than I was expecting, to be honest, of what she expects him or would like him to do. It is not dissimilar to what a lot of people want. There's a lot of people who are saying they cannot give up land. Ukraine cannot do that. Of course, President Trump wants to figure out just a way to end the war.
Whatever that looks like, I think will be determined by somewhere. Hopefully, they can meet some, I guess you'd say, in the middle of this. No one's really sure what that's going to look like. But of course, that's coming from Hillary Clinton.
Well, and as you look at the reset button, she sets, yes, she had such a great record with Russia with the reset button. Does the sun reset close enough? If you look at this, she sets the bar very high for why she would nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize, which I think it would be pretty unanimous. But once again, this is a war. I don't think anyone actually expects the details she laid out to be the final resolution to this because there is territory.
That has been taken. It wouldn't be Ukraine ceding that territory anymore because Russia had taken it over. It would have to be Russia at that point ceding it.
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So if you want to call in, go ahead and call in right now, 1-800-684-3110. We are obviously talking about what everyone's talking about, the Trump-Putin summit that's going to happen today this afternoon. We'll unfortunately be off the air by then, but we'll give you a full breakdown on everything we learned back on Monday. But Will, I think there's a lot of anticipation for this. I don't want people to get their hopes up too much.
President Trump even said, hey, there's a 25% chance nothing comes from this. But what they actually hope is that this leads to meeting number two with Vladimir Zelensky, not just a meeting with President Trump and Putin. That's right. And this came together very quickly. This idea was just about a week ago.
I mean, last Friday, we were even talking about it could happen next week. And they were able to pull together a summit of world leaders very quickly. Normally, those things, because of protocols and all the staff involved, are things that they work for months on. They pulled. this together in a week.
It's happening in Alaska at an Air Force base or a joint military base there. They're going to come together at 3 p.m. Eastern time. And then around 3.30 is when the one-on-one meeting starts.
So there'll be the pageantry and the greetings and the handshaking around 3.3.30. President Trump, President Putin and their translators will have a very small meeting.
So it's just the two principals and then the translators around 3.30 Eastern. Larger gathering, probably with more cabinet level. That's interesting. I think we should hear from President Trump because he actually brought up some of the people that Vladimir Putin's bringing. Not necessarily all cabinet.
We're actually some business executives from Russia. Let's take a listen. This is President Trump on Air Force One just a little bit ago. We get along. There's a good respect level on both sides, and I think you know, something's going to come of it.
I noticed he's bringing a lot of business people from Russia, and that's good. I like that because they want to do business, but they're not doing business until we get the war settled. Are you going to talk about business? We have the hottest country on earth. We have the hottest economy on earth.
We have the hottest company, your country. We just set a new stock market record again. We have hundreds of billions of dollars flowing in from tariffs. We're the hottest country. We were a dead country, dead like doornails, a dead country.
One year ago, we were dead as a doornail. And now we have the hottest country. And he wants a piece of that because his country is not hot economically. In fact, it's the opposite. And China's not doing well economically, but We're all look.
I want everybody to do well. The war's got to stop and the killing's got to stop.
Well, and to that point as well, is that we talked about that larger gathering after the 3:30 face-to-face and then a joint news conference.
So, this could be multiple hours long, or it could end up very quickly. As they said, the White House has not shied away from the fact. If it's not going well, and President Trump said, I'll know in the first few minutes, I'll walk out. But also, I want to bring up this point as well. President Trump told reporters, I'm not here to negotiate for Ukraine.
I'm here to get them to the table.
So, the expectations of this, even back to Hillary Clinton's comment about if he can do all this, all this, that's not going to happen today. He's getting there to start to mediate, bring a resolution to the war and killing. And also, he brings up that Russia's bringing all those business people and everyone wants to do business with the U.S. The economic pain points the U.S. can put on Russia are Probably the greatest asset and tool that we have in our toolbox in getting them to the table because they want to be economically prosperous.
And when you bring that tool set of tariffs and sanctions, and even with their trading partners, that's where you can start to put real pain on the Russian economy and why this negotiation starts with, let's get them to the table. Yeah, people are asking, will be broadcast live. The actual meeting, I don't believe, will be anywhere close to live, but we will have press conferences. There will be things live that will be presented to the press.
So expect to see the two of them together for sure. Photo ops and all of that going around. We have questions coming in, phone calls coming in from Angelo on YouTube in Tennessee. I want to take his call because I think there's a very easy answer to this. Go ahead.
Yeah, my question is, I just don't understand how he's able to, President Trump is able to make this happen so quickly and so efficiently when other leaders have just failed so epically. It's just mind-blowing. Politics, Angelo, that's what happened, is that President Biden refused to even take a call from Vladimir Putin.
So guess what? This could have happened four years ago. This could have happened two years ago, three years ago when the war started. But they decided, let's take a political moral high ground. Choose our side.
And look, I'm not saying that Russia wasn't the aggressor, they obviously were. Choose our moral side. And with that, says, Well, we can't even talk to them. We can't even sit down with them. President Trump doesn't play that way.
We've seen that with his meetings with Kim Jong-hun. We've seen that meeting with people who, yeah, sitting down with them, as Rick Rinnell said, you can sit down with them across the table from them and be diplomats. You don't have to be best friends. And it's something that I feel like our politicians have gotten really, or not politicians, our media has gotten really skewed, and some of our politicians as well, which is just because you meet with somebody. That means, look, you have to meet to end a war, typically.
Well, and here's the cynicism. Grant Lee met to end the war. The cynicism in Hillary Clinton's statement is she sets all these high bar things that would be a major success. But what she fails to even bring up is like, look, even the President I served under Secretary of State of, that's when Crimea was taken by Russia. And then Ukraine was invaded fully during Joe Biden.
So it's acting as if like he's going to fail at this. And the cynicism there fails to see reality that these moments of aggression happened under the Democrat presidencies, both Barack Obama and Joe Biden. And instead of them doing a thing like going and having a summit, trying to figure it out. They do the opposite of that. They didn't talk to the aggressor and say, hey, maybe you shouldn't be doing this.
They encouraged this war to go on even longer by not having a stronger diplomatic voice, by not having the ability to do things outside the box, like a summit, to actually get down to the real issues. And so, that I think can't be lost as well. Is that everyone sitting here saying, There's a good chance this fail. You're seeing members of the Senate and Congress that are Democrats saying he's going to fail. There's no way that they're going to get a peace deal today.
First of all, he's not even setting that expectation. But on top of that, the fact that they are able to go out there and just. Trumpet this and praise the fact of their, oh, he doesn't know what he's going to do. He's not, he can't even handle Putin. Joe Biden wouldn't even talk to the man.
That tells you a lot about leadership. When you won't go sit in the room and try to sort something out and get people to the table. That was not leadership we saw under the last four years. This is a completely different era. And to the caller's question, why is he able to do it so quickly?
Because he's willing to lead on these issues. He's willing to be a moderator in this issue instead of only sending weapons and only slightly propping up Ukraine, but not enough for it to really end the war, and then slow rolling that, spending American taxpayer dollars, and not actually doing some of the things that you need to do to bring an end to it. Yeah, let's take a call. Let's go to Ronald, South Carolina, watch it on Rumble. Go ahead, Ronald.
Yes, thanks for taking my call. And Will literally just made a comment that I was actually going to make, and that's the fact that, yes, she has made a lot of lofty points to be brought out in this summit, but not actually realizing that it was Biden that brought that allowed this war to take place in the first place and allow all this thing to fall on. in the lap of the European nations. Ronald, things were fairly calm. If you don't remember me, yes, obviously, they weren't necessarily calm within our country because of COVID and everything that happened leading out of 2020.
I don't want to pretend like none of that happened. But you can at least say from a world stage, whether it was the Middle East, whether it was Russia, I don't think anyone was sitting around really worrying about it. I don't think we were sitting around thinking about it. The Middle East was calm as it's been in my lifetime. Russia was a blip on the radar, if you will, of whatever was going on.
We knew that there were obviously issues with Putin, but it wasn't a big deal. There wasn't an imminent war. But then when you had President Biden come in, It it really all erupted. And I warned you of that. Go back and find the tapes.
I warned you the Middle East would become another hotbed of terror that we would be talking about this very soon. Guess what? You jumped forward only about a year, and all of a sudden, all of it was back. And maybe worse so, all kind of culminating with that Afghanistan withdrawal that then led to just really, I think even you could say, led to the ineptitude of it, led to the war in Gaza. And led to uh Hamas and other terrorist regimes were willing, feeling they could really make a moment where America was not going to get behind and help.
So you can look at that. You're absolutely right. What Hillary Clinton said, It's a lot of good goals. A lot of lofty, but they're good goals. And they're goals that would have been very easy, I'd say, to get done just a handful of years ago.
And you have to think about as well that the double standard that they play with every sort of negotiation, if they are able to pull off weak deals like the Iran nuclear deal, which enriched an enemy, and and led to we saw how that played out. The cash flow that Iran got from the failed nuclear deal, which did not stop them from enriching uranium, did not stop them from getting closer to a nuclear weapon. also allowed them to perpetrate terror across the Middle East. in things like October 7th through their proxies and the Houthis.
Meanwhile, they love that. They praise the JCPOA, but someone being willing to go and talk to Russia. Also, because they conditioned everyone to think of Russia as the great Satan through their entire Russia Gate hoax. Uh uh even some goals. Aren't able to be done with praise from the left.
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It's totally fine. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-30110. But I also wanted to tie in a bit how the work of the ACLJ, what we're doing in court, really ties into all of this. As the chaos in the streets may not be taken care of, but the street preacher who may be out there, you know, we got to make sure that he's taken care of, and he stopped. Yeah, we had to file a federal civil rights lawsuit against the city of Chicago.
That was earlier this year. Three young Christian men preaching in a park. You know, and so this is what the police were focusing on in Chicago. And a city that kind of becomes the city that is like number one on the list of dangerous places or places where crime has gotten out of control. Yes, Memphis.
Yeah, the numbers might go up and down, but we know that Chicago has an issue and certain areas of Chicago have an issue. And what we wanted to point out is while we're fighting these battles, the police are obviously saying we're prioritizing that. We're going to prioritize three peaceful street preachers and we're going to focus on them instead of the violent criminals who are actually terrorizing the streets. Maybe some people don't like to hear the message of the street preacher. You know what?
That's not, it's not a bullet. No one is being killed. No one's losing their life. No one is losing their mom or their dad or their children because of those street preachers. That's again.
Refocusing the resources, but we're having to fight these in court. This is not over. That's right. And Jordan, once again, you talk about this civil case. We just filed our response to the city's motion to dismiss.
So we're waiting for the next steps now that we have filed there. But there is a criminal case for two of the defendants. We got the charges dropped for one of them earlier in the year, but the other two, there is a criminal trial one month from today.
So while we just filed that response to the motion to dismiss in the civil side, we're actually, our attorneys are working today to prepare for trial in Chicago. on criminal charges Of basically trying to criminalize their free speech and their right to share the gospel. When, as we point out, you look wherever you turn, the large cities have their priorities wrong. They're not going after the violent criminals, they're going after the peaceful people exercising their First Amendment rights. Just to prove the point: so, right after securing that first win and seeing all the charges dismissed for one of the individuals, the other two got arrested just days later.
Same location, identical circumstances, exact location.
So, to say that that's not a pattern by the police force, or at least that department is not putting that as a priority instead of really focusing in on the bad actors, the violent criminals, the drug dealers, the people that are causing actual crime, instead of those who are speaking the message of the gospel, which is what we're used to seeing in public areas and cities and towns across the country. That's the First Amendment. But instead, it is, and I think, you know, to. To what extent it's these police forces don't even want to go into some of these areas anymore.
So they're looking for other ways to justify their existence and they're making arrests of street preachers instead of going into areas that unfortunately, and I think that that just speaks to the problem. They have to risk their own lives just to go into those areas. And Jordan, just to show you also the work of the ACLJ and to our audience, that even today, in another matter, and these are matters where people are expressing their freedom of speech within their constitutional right. Many times they are already, they try to follow the ordinances to the letter. They have done their homework so that they aren't running afoul of the law.
But this is another one in Carmondale, Illinois, where these were pro-life protesters. We also know about the pro-life protesters that were facing criminal charges in Ohio that we've been defending. But this is one where it was a group of people that were expressing with signs their opposition to an abortion clinic. And like all of us, Yeah. The the police get called.
And then the city continues to try to move forward on some sort of charges or things. This one didn't get to that point because of our lawyers' interventions. But now we have a suit against the city, and there's an evidentiary hearing today on a preliminary injunction to try and stop them from enforcing against pro-life speech.
So I just wanted to put out there as well: our attorneys today have a preliminary injunction, preliminary evidentiary hearing today in court.
So we are fighting. While the President is fighting against the way that these cities are being run and trying to get law and order back as the focus, we are also making sure we defend these clients with no cost to the client because of the support of our ACLJ members and champions. But we have to also do this work so that we can put it into it where their focus is redirected back to what their jobs are. I think that that's part of what our job is going to be at the ALJ. ACLJ is making sure it's not the actual officers in uniform.
They are carrying out. Directives from their leadership. And so, what we have to make sure is that the leadership knows by filing these lawsuits, you need to refocus on your actual job. You know, your actual job is to keep people safe. But, you know, from time and time again, since the founding of the ACLJ Logan, we've seen that local police officers love to go against the peaceful protester, or in this case, just the sidewalk preacher.
And I would just imagine in this day and age, when I drive down the road, if I see someone who's got the sign out and is making their message known, In most places, there's eight other things that police should be looking at in that area than that person. Yeah, this is the kind of easy pickings, if you will, because they can just do it. They know they're not going to get that much pushback, at least in the moment. But of course, that is why we are here to make sure that does become a bit more uncomfortable to take on these. You can't hit a quota if you are just trying to arrest the street preachers in your area, but not take care, not actually take care of the people that are on your streets or take care of the issues of crime that are happening.
No, you're going to go after the ones who are legally doing what you're allowed to do on a public sidewalk, but you know that it's going to cause a ruckus. It is something that we always have been standing up for here at the ACLJ. It's nothing new. But it's a continual battle. It's a continual battle also to make sure we're educating our law enforcement to make sure they understand also what they can do and what they can't do.
Who they can arrest, who they should arrest, and cannot arrest. Because sometimes it is not on them, sometimes it's on their superior who tells them, hey, we think if you see a street preacher out there, they're not allowed to do that. They have a bullhorn or if they have some kind of amplification system, there are rules, so make sure to shut this down. And the ACLJ team is always ready to take action. And if it's within the rules, obviously, we are going to make sure that they are supported.
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I wanted you to hear more about the work of the ACLJ, everything we were doing, and from my brother Jordan Sekulow. I want to kick things off, though, in this second half hour.
Well, I know we got a call coming in. We'll make sure we take that. But of course, we're all right now talking about the Trump-Putin meeting that is happening any, probably in the next couple of hours. It'll be happening. There is some format.
We'll know a lot more tonight about whether anything was successful or not. We don't plan or anticipate any sort of ceasefire talks or talks, yes, but decisions being made or anything like that. This is more round one, which should head into, hopefully, into a round two. And of course, we're talking about Hillary Clinton saying if he's able to accomplish all this, go through a litany of different things, but really was just creating peace in this region. Heck, she would even nominate him for the Nobel Priest Prize, President Trump.
Well, what I think is interesting here, and what the media is having fun with at this point, is trying to already predispose everyone for a failure. Get you. Ready to accept a failure. He didn't get a peace deal signed today when even he himself, the President of the United States, said, I'm not here to negotiate for Ukraine. I'm here to get them to the table.
So he understands this is a longer process. He knows that this doesn't end today.
So when you're hearing Democrat senators, when you're hearing Hillary Clinton saying, if he can pull this off, I'll give him the Nobel Prize, I'll nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize, they're being disingenuous because that's not even what this is. This is the beginning of a mediation between two parties. And with him going in with that mindset, I think that does actually open the door for it to be successful, to get it to that next stage, because he can go in there and say, I'm not here on behalf of Ukraine. I'm here on behalf of the United States and the world because we need this war to end. And that opens the door for a lot of different possibilities and ways for it to go.
But the media is already trying to get you convinced, no matter what, it's a failure if there's not a peace agreement signed today, which isn't even the point of the summit. All right, let's go ahead and take this call before we get to the next segment. Kevin in California, you're on the air. Biden could not. It's not that Biden didn't want to talk to Putin.
Biden couldn't talk to Putin. Biden couldn't talk to the media. Trump has this skill of international negotiation. Biden and Obama could not. The Trans-Pacific Partnership, the Iranian deal, they could only give away things.
Trump is a negotiator on the world state. O Biden and Obama, they could only do like things here internally in America where they had no conflict. could just sign Kevin, I think that's a very good point. Is that President Trump has been dealing with different cultures, different regulations on the world stage for most of his life in the world of constructions and resorts and all the different deals that he has done? Through time.
It's why you saw when they had the big deal with him on the roof scouting the location and looking at from the new ballroom. It's like, yeah, that's clearly where the guy feels the most comfortable. This is where his business has been running the entire time. He was not a politician.
So you can say what you want about him, whether he knows what he's talking about or doesn't know what he's talking about on the politics side or has issues there. When it comes to getting a deal done and negotiations with world leaders and with people, again, who don't necessarily agree with you on a lot of states, look at how many Trump Buildings there are across the world, or have been in the past. These aren't easy deals to come up with.
So, to sit down with a Vladimir Putin, you're right. You have to have a certain level of understanding of how other cultures work. And I don't know if, though President Biden and President Obama had certainly, I'd say, President Biden more than Obama, had their share of time working with world leaders, nothing on the level of doing business with world leaders like President Trump has done.
Well, and also when you hear the cynicism in their voice, the way that they will make light of it and say, Well, I would nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize if he could pull that off. What happened to a country where we could really hope for the best from the leader going to try to end a war instead of basically mocking it and saying, You're going to fail no matter what? That we don't need that, all right. I want to take a second here. We're halfway through the point of really the halfway through.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us via phone right now. We wanted to chat with him. And of course, we are celebrating 35 years of victory right here now at the AZLJ. And, Dad, of course, this is a moment.
Will, why don't you give us like a 10-20-second reset?
So, all the people who are joining us right now, because we've seen the numbers are skyrocketing right now on YouTube and on Rumble, give us a little bit of a reset of what we're talking about, and let's get your feedback down. That's right. So, it appears Cash Patel, as director of the FBI, discovered 302 interview forms from the FBI where a whistleblower was coming forward from the House Intelligence Committee that worked for the Democrats, trying to get the FBI to do something about the fact that Adam Schiff was purposefully and directing the staff to leak classified intelligence to the media for the purpose of getting an indictment against President Trump, the FBI, under The Chris Ray era, as well as the Biden era. This individual gave about four interviews to the FBI on this very subject, did nothing about it. And a lot of that had to do with what they pushed back and said, We don't know if we have any angle here because of speech and debate clause.
But now the American public is seeing this because Director Patel has declassified it and given it over to Congress, who has now given it to John Solomon at Just the News. The idea there? Yeah. Go ahead. The first thing I think you have to realize year is this.
Number one, and I think this is critical. This was a democratic Staff member who gave the information. To the FBI, who was then interviewed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on three separate occasions that we know of. As Will mentioned, the three hundred two, the three hundred two is the form that the FBI utilizes when they interview. These are the notes taken by the FBI agents.
Cash Patel is confirmed as the FBI director gets this information probably in the normal portion of review. This was from twenty seventeen. And this individual alleges that Adam Schiff, Leaked classified documents to the media on purpose, knowing they were classified. Uh to tarnish. of President Trump.
Now, of course. I know firsthand what was going on in this because we represented the President at that point. And here's the key thing that I think you have to remember, Logan. This is What happens? When weaponization of an agency takes place.
And the Democrats. Went after President Trump with a vengeance both while in office and then when. We had President Biden. They indicted the former President of the United States in jurisdictions. alleging, by the way, the same kind of handling of classified documents.
How come the President if President Trump gets Indicted for it and Adam Shit, nothing happens.
Well, I think that's about the change.
So, what happens now is once this information is out. There will be further investigations. A grand jury should then be enpaneled. And that grand jury should then if the evidence supports it. uh bring a charge uh for violating a number of federal statutes here.
So many people have been pointing to the speech and debate clause in the Constitution, Article 1, Section 6, Clause 1, which says that members of both houses of Congress may be privileged from arrest during their attendance of the session of their respective houses. And it goes on to say, and for any speech and debate in either house, they shall not be questioned in any other place.
Some of the reporting is that the whistleblower, that's the pushback he got. And we know that many members of Congress have used the well of the Senate or the floor of the House to speak things into the record that would otherwise not be allowed to be put out there. Maybe it be classified documents or something of that nature. And that is a protection that the Constitution gives.
However, if you're directing staff to leak classified documents, how far does this protection of speech and debate extend in a case like this? This had nothing to do with the speech and debate clause, though. I mean, that's the first go-to that anybody that. service in Congress utilizes. That came by the way, the speech and debate clause Has been litigated a number of times.
Here's the issue on the speech and debate clause. This was not, first of all, it wasn't on the floor of the Senate, that's in your House. Number one. It wasn't a speech and debate effort. It wasn't statements made in that context.
This was a leak. This is what the allegation is by this whistleblower. This is a leak of classified information that is not protected by the speech and debate plus, because if it was. America's national security would be constantly in jeopardy.
So, those that say speech and debate, nonsense. This is if the allegations are true. And based on what I have seen in the past, nothing would surprise me here. Another thing that I've seen is Go ahead. No, no, no, I thought you were done there.
I was saying, a lot of people are asking then.
So then what happens? This is always the big question, which is we've uncovered all this information. Cash Patel said, here it all is. You know, there'll be referrals. There'll be all this.
What's the true next step? Because Adam Schiff, we know, has even bigger plans and bigger hopes for his political career. And could this result in anything?
Well, it sure could. I mean, they've got, first of all, under Pam Bondi, the Department of Justice has set up a task force on weaponization. of federal agencies. As I said, a grand jury. could be in panel as the evidence warrants.
And that grand jury could issue an indictment. MCHIP isn't immune from the law. These are the ones that scream about nobody's above the law yet. When they are involved in activities, they immediately try to hide behind a speech and debate clause. And by the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with having a speech and debate clause.
I think the founders were right. But it has nothing to do with this issue whatsoever. If in fact the allegations are true, a crime was committed. And when you think about the way that Director Gabbard has laid this out, seeing the ways that intelligence was manipulated and then changed in order to frame a narrative against the President at the direction of President Barack Obama at the time, and then you saw the way that James Comey had a part in this.
Now we're seeing that the intelligence committee, the Democrats there, were specifically playing a role in this. This is where that grand conspiracy investigation seems to really take place, where you're seeing multiple branches of the government in coordination trying to go after someone who was elected by the people. And it also harkens back to when Chuck Schumer said, you better not go after the intelligence community because they have six ways from Sunday to get back at you. All of this points to some sort of coup and grand conspiracy against President Trump.
Well, we know that, of course, from just from what happened during the four years in his first term. I mean, this was a constant attack. It was whether it was an impeachment, whether it was the nonsense with Bob Mueller, that, that. Whole situation and Adam Schiff. joking saying he has seen the evidence.
remember? Of Russia's collusion with the Trump campaign, and then there was none. This was a guy who made up a transcript of a conversation between the President of the United States and Vladimir Zelensky. He made it out. He made up the text.
And he'd be later annoyed at that. It was it was just two years. know make the point more clear. not fit.
So the end result of all of this, in my view, is A grand jury should be impaneled. That grand jury should look at the evidence as warranted, indictments flow. If, in fact, the allegations have a probable cause factor, reasonable to a To move forward. And I believe it will be. I'm not surprised by any of this.
I do want to remind people: President Trump has only been in office eight months, cash cartel less than that.
So it's going to take some time here. I think we're on the right track. I think people are going to be held accountable.
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Will Haynes here, joined by Jordan Sekulow in studio. And we have John Solomon from Just the News joining us as well. And this is a new piece that you put out last night, John, about Comey's media mole told the FBI he shaped the Russia narrative, but needed a discount to deny leaking intel. All this stems from an investigation by the FBI into classified information that was popping up in the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, and many other places. But what do these documents tell us, John, about James Comey and this relationship he had with Columbia University law professor Daniel Richmond?
Well, what it tells you is that at taxpayer expense, James Comey brought a friend on to the payroll to be a special PR consultant and to go around the official press office of the FBI, which is also on our tax dollar design, and trained in how to properly provide information to the news media so that laws aren't broken. And he's having discussions with reporters about classified information. And when he's asked, Did you confirm or provide that information? He gives, I think, one of the great non-denial-denial answers in American history. It's probably going to be up there with.
Bill Clinton said, depending what the word the meaning of the word is, is when he was trying to parse words about whether he had had an interview or had an affair or sexual relationship with his intern, Monica Lewinsky. That was probably the most famous one in the last 30 years. He says, Well, I'm pretty. Sure, I didn't confirm the intelligence, and I'm sure, comma, with a discount. I didn't give them the classified documents.
If you need a discount on your truthfulness to make that claim, it's a red flag to the FBI that maybe you haven't told them the whole story. And I think what you get to see now is that. James Comey wasn't just trying to do good in the country. He wasn't trying to stand up to a President, all the narratives he's given us on his high and mighty media tours. He was worried about how he was being viewed, his reputation.
And he brings a guy in, and that guy is having conversations with reporters about classified information. He doesn't dispute that. The question is, did he leak it? And the FBI ultimately couldn't tell from his answer whether he did or didn't. And the Justice Department ultimately, like almost all the leak cases of the last decade, we looked at six of them yesterday.
No one actually gets punished. They always come to the same conclusion, which is: it looks like this happened, but we can't prove it. And meanwhile, the President of the United States, who would have actually had the ability or authority to declassify things, gets a special counsel and charged for retaining classified documents. While all of these, their conclusion is, we don't know if we can prosecute anyone. There does seem to be this double standard.
And I think that's what people have been concerned about, at least that watch our broadcast, is that there is that double standard. But now we're going on eight years in some of these cases. Where can justice be had? And John, is there anything that you see that could still happen to hold these individuals accountable?
Well, they say there is, and Pam Bondi has put in motion a process first. There's a criminal case that's been written up by career officials under the direction of FBI Director Cash Patel that looks at the decade of weaponization as a grand conspiracy case Same modus operandi. Democrat does something bad. Hillary Clinton with the foundation, Hillary Clinton with the emails. They project a fake scandal on Donald Trump called Russia occlusion.
Hunter Biden's got a Ukraine foreign influence problem and a tax problem. We're going to have an impeachment of Donald Trump for asking about it. Joe Biden has classified documents in his garage and in his UPenn office that he shouldn't have. Let's raid Donald Trump and make a criminal case of him first, and then we'll let Joe Biden walk. That is being looked at as an ongoing conspiracy case, deprivation of civil liberties, perhaps obstruction of justice.
In that scenario, you can go backwards to twenty sixteen and charge people.
Now there's another scenario. In the cases of leaking, there is one statute. Most of the statutes on leaks are five years for classified information. But there's one statute that states that it's a tenure if you can show that something was willing and knowing and willful. And I think in some of these leaks, you see people directing if the account about Adam Schiff that I broke two days ago is true.
Adam Schiff is directing his staff to do it. That seems to be knowing and willful. In fact, when the question of legality comes up, the whistleblower says they've already figured it out. Don't worry about it. The Justice Department will just say we'll be protected by the debate and speech cost, so we won't be prosecuted for leaking classified information.
Town's knowing and willful. We'll have to see if a grand jury believes that, whether prosecutors believe it, whether the whistleblowers believe it. are credible. But there are some avenues for justice. I think the biggest avenue for all of us is At some point, these agencies have to be turned upside down.
And the mindset that it's okay to bring your politics across the threshold of the door, something that didn't happen in the CIA and the FBI up until last maybe 10 or 12 years and the Justice Department, that has to be stamped out. If not, we go from a great constitutional republic to a banana republic.
Well, and I think what is so shocking about things in your reporting, both with the Adam Schiff story as well as this James Comey story, is that these two both had what seemed to be like an established way for them to get this information out. Instead of this was a one-off or they decided to get one thing out to an individual, but whether it be the House Intelligence Committee having staff do that for you, or with James Comey bringing on an individual as a special government employee so you could have these conversations with him to almost legally protect him, but then allow that individual to be your pipeline to the media. It's just shocking that that's what was going on. But I just want to encourage everyone also to follow John over at Just the News, read this reporting. It's incredible.
We read it here every day. And John, is there anything else you want our people to know about things that may be coming or what we should be looking out for? Yeah, listen, I think the next thing I'm going to be focusing on are some documents that show that Hillary Clinton did not only face jeopardy on her email case, there was several foundation corruption cases looking at her foundation as a possible pay to play. We're going to be able to tell people for the first time soon who's going to be a very good person. who was shutting that down?
Who was blocking it? And I think that's going to be an important part of that cycle of protecting Democrats, Hunter, Hillary, whoever it's going to be, Joe Biden, and then demonizing Republicans using the intelligence and law enforcement system. I think those new revelations will move the needle quite a bit. Justthenews.com is where you can go read all of that and be looking out for what John Solomon just told us. Thank you so much for joining us, and we will talk with you soon.
Thank you, sir. Good to be with you. Jordan. There you go. Do you see how much information there is still to be explained, still that needs to be, you know, testimony that needs to be gathered, people that need to be put under oath, and possible legal charges that need to come?
And again, this is not just fighting a grudge. It's the bigger picture of a government that works for the people, regardless of your political views, that is going to treat everyone the same. If it's illegal for one person, it's illegal for the other person. And we're not going to raid some people's houses, but not other people's houses, because we feel like, you know what, there shouldn't have been any raids of President Trump and those associates. But some of these guys on the other side, when you look at the information, you wonder.
Why there wasn't action taken quicker. Instead, they were getting little slaps on the wrist. You need to be more careful with your documents. We're finding spies in your office from other countries. Just be a little more careful with how you share this information.
You're telling your staff to leak. Classified information as one whistleblower reported to the FBI, and no actions taken on that by the FBI. But they put warning outs about Catholic churches. I mean, just remember, that's all going on simultaneously. It's why we have to fight back.
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