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Listener Questions!, What is a Condo? Contractor Walks Out on a Job, Can I sue for Breach of Contract? What Estate Planning is needed for your College Bound Son Or Daughter?

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August 5, 2022 5:00 pm

Listener Questions!, What is a Condo? Contractor Walks Out on a Job, Can I sue for Breach of Contract? What Estate Planning is needed for your College Bound Son Or Daughter?

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August 5, 2022 5:00 pm

On this edition of the Outlaw Lawyer Josh, Joe, and Cassandra tackle listener questions. What is a Condo? How do I sue for Breach of Contract when a contractor Walks out after receiving a retainer to do the work? Your son or daughter is off to college soon, What kind of legal documentation should they have in place before going? 

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This week on the outlaw lawyer, Josh, Joe and Cassandra discuss the law and how it affects everything around us. We do this each and every week, and as always, the outlaw lawyers tackle burning legal questions such as can you say shards on the radio just did. How are condos made and what kind of estate planning is my soon-to-be college freshman.

Really, that's all coming up this week on the outlaw flyers now welcome into this edition of the outlaw lawyers we have Josh Whitaker, Joe Hamer and Cassandra Nicholas attorneys at Whitaker and Hamer law firm. They have offices in Raleigh, Garner Clayton, Goldsboro, Fuquay, Berea and Gastonia.

They are practicing attorneys here in North Carolina.

In the course Josh and Joe managing partners at the firm. You have a legal situation you are facing. We can always get you in touch with the firm, call 800-659-1186 at 800-659-1186 and leave your contact information briefly what that call is about an attorney with Whitaker and Hamer will be in touch and you can always email your questions to the program hi Morgan Patrick consumer advocate.

We are about to get into. I love I love the shows listener questions that's coming out. But, Josh, handed over to you. You got some more stuff you want to get into first right before listener questions you know I like when we we do this every now and again our listener questions kind of build up, and we try to dedicate a whole show to today can 345 listener questions and again we do this we do the serum outlaw lawyer were doing this varied in a very general nature. So were taking a very general question and Skype talking about it as North Carolina attorneys speaking to folks who live and work in play in North Carolina so we can put North Carolina spin on these listener questions, but I'm always happy when we get a chance to do this, it always works out to when it's connect quiet on the legal news front Supreme Court not in session, there's a lot of other stuff going on.

So Cassandra did see a lot of legal news items that we would highlight but maybe maybe one or two were, interesting yeah absolutely there is an update on the previous story we have done on this show. We previously talked about the Sartre license plate in North Carolina and the woman who had it was very excited her six-year-old daughter was very excited to have it but somebody put in a complaint and there was a lot of back-and-forth between her and the DMV and eventually in March she was required to move it from her vehicle. She was allowed to keep it.

She's allowed to do whatever she wants with it in her quest to keep her license plate. She founded a group the friends of Asheville recreational trails part so this represented the license plate therefore represented the group that she was the founder of even after she's had to remove the license plate.

They have still been meeting up for hikes and whatnot so something good came out of it, but there is a another lunch license plate in North Carolina that has not been objected to her room to so far is the short license plate on a vehicle, currently a Volvo they've met up the Shiite girl and the fight girl. So that's I legal update hi I wasn't sure you get your looking at as I wasn't sure you could say short on the radio but through late.

If we can't weave. We come to for the but it might kill say that every now you and my kids will say that it feels like they should be getting in trouble for saying that but I guess it's a perfectly acceptable sure and yeah so without that was good was good to see that happen. Joseph mean you we were we got to go to the rage concert this week and the rage against the machine they had heard it was really good. It was really good. I want to see them in concert hello how many temples and look back and see how he comes even close to North Carolina when the when they used to tour the last time I remember them coming is for lollapalooza when I was in high school. That's the last time I remember seeing rage was going to be anywhere North Carolina and maybe they been back since then. I'm just not aware, Joe.

I don't know if you noticed you look at that. I knew my dad who was with the city. Solomon 91 that lollapalooza and I couldn't tell you when they been since then, but man such a low energy such a low energy show fallen asleep in the crowd and barely staying awake you juxtapose that crowd and that concert was last fluency that you are a big fan. We went to visit it was nuclear. The though the one before that I knew gets on the block, but if you get before that with James Taylor yeah you could not have a more start, between two things look man. It was one of the best things ever seen in my life and I say that without hesitation I think everybody else that was there not there was people that were there that were really big fans that you knew they were had some appreciation for them but you can't go to that show not just be completely blown away. What venue do they hold that his opinion see the PNC and a difficult thing I intend is to know where the hockey arena.

Basco court usually is wide open. They said, standing room only down there and so that a lot got wild it got while down there man. I am interested in look back to Sammy. People attended unit a Metallica show couple years back was really good and I can open up that bottom area and it was like the most attended event ever at PNC, but I think his rage show was close to that. It was fantastic again like it was good enough to where I would like to travel to see them again on this to work is that good energy ridiculous. Did you see is the shift I got got her hearing and you say he goes everywhere he's been he's been all over the place with yes and he was in Raleigh was likely seen every using every show they played so far on the reunion select unit man like you go when you see it and it's like you get it like it's on the energy level man and the level of light passion they bring in the level of just everything man was just up. It was.

It was great man. It was great what you're telling me that if I walk in Whitaker and Hamer. I'm not to get that same kind of passion or if I need some help you if you're the closing table with me to be a mosh pit to be a lot of headbanging love to fill in a mosh to be in the he was down there corner brisket is good, so I doubt we see a show like that anytime soon. I hope they I hope this reunion tour is likely to start pouring and I like why the bands I grew up with the coming coming back and touring. Now you know and and hope it's not like art will do it again another 10 years. Maybe it's like a regular regular rotation because you can only go to so many. I like James Taylor I'm not saying I don't like James Taylor, you're not a fans, I mean he's okay it's not there's there's things you go to see live in concert and there's things that like I can listen to James Taylor but like traveling to a concert to light it just you know it doesn't really add anything to his music for me the last show I was at was the checks a couple weeks ago, formerly the Dixie check there still making music. So this was a new tour with their new music, but thankfully they played a lot of stuff to you. I was really it was packed and mostly with young women. It was like 23-year-old women and they knew all the words or outlets.

I was very impressed. We got out we got a loaded concert right here were were going to me and me. My wife are one in Nashville and so gets his deceive and skill.

I guess I got a feeling although very excited for that show over at the Ryman Auditorium. I get a feeling it's not going to match the rage against the machine, like a lot of concerts in my life. A lot of concerts of a similar genre to the rage against the machine show and yeah it's good to be I don't know that that'll ever be talk honestly and in the amazing thing about it is like this in your talk about how much energy there was like everybody's out of their seats. It was a crazy but energy and we haven't even mentioned the fact that the literal lead singer Zack Taylor Rocha, AZ got one leg.

He was seated entire time seated and seated he put forth more energy, more effort, more just like crazy, revived and obscene anybody standing doom, and it was like I can't even describe what you really did put a lot of energy from you. We saw Genesis this year and Phil Collins is is you know he's not out walking around and he can't move that well, but he was in a chair and it was it was a lot different experience. But yeah this guy. He gave it he gave it is all man you difficult to get her money's worth. I want to jot good night and half years in the making people wait for that concert. I guarantee that nobody nobody was sad about it while you're probably right there and have people follow him around to her, but I Taylor seeing Vince Gill at the Ryman that's gonna be almost be like a religious experience for you. I can't wait to hear about that. Yeah just get rage. Manny depreciated rage ruined all the concerts will write so we got a whole show today dedicated Joss listener questions rushing to talk about legal things is what we started the outlaw lawyer you know we started this show because we want to talk about you know when when things were in the news and we didn't think they were getting covered from a legal perspective, you know, we talk about cases and case law and statute. So we do that, a lot of weeks in some ways really just try to talk about questions or listeners have specifically asked us, since all these questions have come up in the past week or so when when I been in consoles when I've been talking to listeners.

These are questions I got asked a mean of course we don't give names on the show we know we don't give away any any facts. These are all been sanitized and and boil down to their their essence, and so few of these I think are you know interesting. The first listener question were to tackle is what is a condo we talk about condos condominiums are getting more more popular here in Raleigh were we.

We have a lot of our we have one of our offices and we spent a lot of time so condos keep coming up and and though it is interesting how this question came up this question came up when I was talking to someone about something else. And this is kind of a side thing in and they asked this question as an attorney. I know how condos are created what that something probably a lot of people who are in real estate law.

Don't ever think of. So our first listener question when cycle is what is a condo and how is it created. We got our next listener question after that was to question number two. Today is going to be the example or someone is it has a contract with the contractors hired a contractor to do work has paid a deposit and the contractor never came back. More return calls. Surreal talk about that, breach of contract situation and I know we got a lot of folks who have kids going off to college graduated from high school.

Moving onto the next stage in their life and so we get a lot of calls a lot of questions about estate planning will come documentation with a new college freshman really need to have insets coming up a lot for so I think those three questions will will be interesting and Morgan that's that's what cycle today right once again will get into what is a condo how it was created hired a contractor may be paid a deposit and then there's a breach of contract. How do you handle that and then I will also try to get to that college freshman headed off to school.

What kind of legal documentation should she or he have in place before moving.

That's all coming up on the outlaw lawyer and I'm looking at the notes as we come out of our first segment. There's one here. We didn't get to Josh apparently is always wanted to wear a cowboy hat every day. Okay I just why I see the note on Mike how do you do that, that's called you don't know this is the thing for me. How hard is it my whole life I wanted to be better in a trucker hat man. My wife want to be that guy wears a cowboy hat) from Raleigh North Carolina that I didn't really have a lot of cowboy hats.

Every so often and it Nashville as we can maybe think about as I have, whereas I never wear boots. Why were those that were those but how hard is it just to become the guy professional setting who wears a cowboy hat every day. Got to be good at what you do what you set start one day like I'm 40, hologram 45, 46, but what if I start wearing a cowboy hat every day in the office out of the office kids games as war cowboy hat all the time. I feel like there be a lot of questions. I thought it would be hard to do after I thought people would ask me like a what's up with you. What's up with the One I think.

I think you get less questions when you have a cowboy hat on and ask anything here's another thing the minute you walk in to legacy. I decide to move to you let you know I North Carolina I been here my whole life.

I minute Montana Montana makes too much sense is got to be somewhere like New York. Those edges moved to Western New York. I just show up and I got a cowboy hat on my just as would accept is your new you came in with a cowboy hat.

I think people just accept it. But if you're here were you always been where you grew up you know people start wearing a cowboy hat like it's a difficult transition to make, but it made me think about going to Nashville.

I think we all should. I think all of the attorneys in the optician.

It should be.

I think there's gotta be mandatory for you to watch the full seasons of Yellowstone watched the tick-tock's of the guys and start and they're just watching in their normal and as they get to season finally rest and really for me not be the way you are I the outlaw liars Josh Whitaker Joe Hamer and Cassandra Nicholas we have listener questions coming up on the program if you got a legal situation you're facing yourself and you got some questions. I got a phone number for you 800-659-1186 at 800-659-1186 leave your contact information. Briefly, what the call was about an attorney with Whitaker in Hamer will be in touch again.

You can always email your questions to the show and that's and just remember the outlaw lawyer and we have Whitaker and Hamer law firm. The power behind it.

They have offices in Raleigh Garner Clayton Goldsboro Fuquay Marina and Gastonia. I Morgan Patrick consumer advocate were back with more outlaw come up next, and Gastonia. Check out the website, the outlaw so listener questions. First one up.

Josh is what is a condo. How is it created so I was having a conversation with the client and it was a consult about some legal issues with printing out portions of a piece of real property so that land we got a house big house and is were talking about how to make the best use of it, how to minimize liability from his perspective, and we got into the situation and in the question that Betty asked is what if I turn this into turn his house into condos and so that was interesting question.

I don't think it's the right fit for the gentleman who was asking me but so condos are relatively new in in in general. If you're from New York. If you're from Chicago. You know if you're from a bigger city condos been around for a long time shall have a lot of space to maximize space. People want to own things, but I thought before you even get to that question we can have to think about how we view real property and so the example that I was in use. In my mind hearing and Cassandra and Joe might have a better example. But I is okay you say you have a 10 acre tract of land you say you've inherited it or you came across a 10 acre tract of land. And as for your principal residence. Build your house on it and was say over the years like you know you have maybe have some relatives who put a trailer on their affixed to the property made it real property.

Maybe someone built a house in the in the backside of the 10 acres you got some barns got some out parcels as I get is 10 acre tract with all these different buildings on them, possibly different principal residence as well. According to the way the wall looks at it. That's all that together. Maybe there's three houses. Maybe there's a trailer members a barn. That's all one piece of property rights. If you decide you want to go sell the house, the backside you can just sell the house on the backside because as it stands now, you haven't separated the property in the parcels you haven't done anything to it's it's just a 10 acre and so we've seen that before, or someone trying to sell maybe 11 house or 1B is of the like that where I what you can do that you need.

You have to get a survey are out there to drop platen, separated 10 acres maybe are separating into you know couple to acre lots and you can sell once you once you've separated it had the cab Co. approve it that you've created when there was one big 10 acre parcel that you created. Let's say five to acre parcels and so you can then sell off those 2 acre parcels, but but you real property is everything on that real property everything affixed.

Everything built so so that's this guy was say that that's our debts are guy were creating here for this question was answered his problem.

He's got three houses on this one. 10 acre parcel. Yet his tax bill is for the one parcel he's never had it split up never had it surveyed and he wants to rent out some of the houses on here, but he wants to shield himself from liability and and so a condo is not land a condo is when you decide and you you there's a statute that tells you how to do it you you got to get approval in others things yesterday, but I condos were you. You make one room right you make is like a it's a thing of an apartment building that outlives an apartment building like 20 apartments in it.

That's one piece of property that is one tax bill. That's one thing.

Even though there may be 20 units with 40 people living in all 20 units. That's one piece several property, but if you decide to make that condos then what you're doing is you're selling this what I always I hear right. The best way to condo just a is just is just here was a joint interest in the common areas. That's right.

So we create a condo you would say you know that the driveway getting to the building. The parking lot. The pool you whatever you got you got a 1/20 interest in the common area and you own units Ia but you only own from like the drywall in the flooring in right so when you buy a condo.

That's what you're doing, you're buying that air the right to get to that air the right to be in that air and in the condo if it's put together right you notice provisions, there were something happens and it burns down the condo association should have insurance and reserves they should build it back but you don't own the bricks in the in the roof and the real property underneath.

In theory, the condo association doesn't so I did. I think for a lot of North Carolinians are born and raised here that that isn't a new concept to me.

We know what it is but it's just not something until past 10, 15 years.

We dealt with a lot. This is helpful. I did, I went to law school in DC and lived there for seven years, so there are a lot of buildings like this where the units are individually owned but then frequently, those folks that own an individual unit rented out side have classmates that had say they go into my condo that I rent know you live in an apartment trying to sound fancy, and it's not fancy your paying rent. Like the rest of us. Why was also good. I was also the size that's that's the that's the general condo and sometimes and in North Carolina you seal a land lease condo or the condo association doesn't even own the real property.

It's built on the sky like 100 year lease with options for your 25 year renewals and so that's like even another step removed from owning actual land is still real property, it still has value, trying to demean. I'm just trying to find it. It's not just don't own dirt you see you have a leak in own a land lease condo and so you own the air in unit 1A, in a building that you don't technically own on land that you don't technically own and so you get really, really far removed from just owning your 10 acres you out in the country but condos of course are extremely valuable and there usually condos. They usually are condos access the best use of the Lance he got an acre in downtown Raleigh so he put a 20 acre building on its a lot of different people can live there and be close to work and that's that's what makes him valuable, only a lot of people actually stop and think yeah that how it's created what you're actually what you're actually buying. But if you're in your dirt lawyer to practice real property, especially North Carolina. With this is kind of a newer thing that we've we've seen in the past, 15, 25 years. I guess I just I just thought it was interesting what interest me there law dirt laws the way it is all about air. It's is just it's it's it's different but manly things are popular and are always a very popular.

As you know some people who build and create condos. They don't usually have a problem moving those things out law lawyer. We are getting in the listener questions and again this one interesting.

What is a condo. How is it created. We have an opportunity for you to get in touch with Whitaker and Hamer.

If you have any legal questions you are facing.

You haven't been able to get answers, you can always call 800-659-1186 at 800-659-1186 and leave your contact information briefly what that call is about and an attorney with Whitaker Hamer will be in touch. Also, you can email your questions to the program questions at the owl. Although you also want you to check out the website out law lawyer.

That's the outlaw and take a short break and be back on the other side, or next listener question. I hired a contractor and I paid a deposit and I want to go ahead and sue them for breach of contract because they didn't show back up. That's all come up next on the outlaw my own that attorney roster. We have Cassandra Nichols.

She is a frequent guest really gonna try host now, Josh and Joe practicing attorneys here in North Carolina again managing partners of the firm. They have offices in Raleigh Garner Clayton Goldsboro Fuquay Marina and Gastonia.

We joke, but maybe we don't we say there, like Starbucks, you throw a rock and you can hit a firm office. That's Raleigh Garner Clayton Goldsboro for quivering in Gastonia. If you're up against the legal situation. You've got questions, got a phone number 4800 659-1186. That's 800-659-1186 leave your contact info.

Briefly what that calls about an attorney with Whitaker Hamer will be in touch and you can always send your questions to the program or do those today. Again, it is a listener question day and the next one up. Josh is I hired a contractor I paid the deposit and they did not show back up so breach of contract. Let's get into it yet.

I think we've all we think every attorney at our office. Gets this console once a week and maybe that's maybe this overestimate Cassandra, but I think we get this all the time I get this. I definitely do a lot of consults related to contractors not fulfilling their contracts and that can happen in a lot of different ways so that they sometimes they don't ever even start the work they just disappear with your money and never come back. Sometimes they do the work and it's really bad that's definitely a breach of their contract because your hiring them to do a job that they don't successfully do.

Sometimes they do part of the job and then start just taking a long time to do it. Is that a breach or not.

Does your contract have time limits as to when they can complete the work so there is some nuance to it, but there are a lot of similarities between these consults where contractors are likely in breach of their contracts yet turned out when we do these listener question shows I really try to pull him out of the prior week, as I think that's a good way to get these in and the listener that I was talking to. I think the contractor I don't know what the total contract was an interesting contract.

I don't think this is the situation that's one of our first questions is there an actual contract like I think he had talked to a contractor I think maybe there had been assigned baby invoice or proposal and $2000 with the contractor required to get started and and and the contractor was that was a no couple weeks have gone by. I haven't heard anything and if you will start doing the research and kind. Figure out that maybe this contractors done this before test, what happened here and so his you know $2000 is a lot of money.

I don't I don't want to downplay $2000 but you know attorneys don't work for free. Usually end of most attorneys don't work on collection matters are breach of contract matters for free. So $2000 is a lot of money, but if you want attorney to help you out. That's, that's more money right Ciardi out your your $2000 contractors gone AWOL and so one of things I usually try to talk to people box where were attorneys that were not salesman when you come in to consult with us for not trying to sell you the most expensive legal fee that I can think of for your situation were to try to give you a better service. Depending on how much you pay us.

Basically, yes.

When you come in for console organized, look at the facts. Real look at how likely you are to to recover and be honest with you is what we would charge to do this and so there does become an amount of money that if you you know you lose it.

It may not be worth attorney fees and may not be worth the trouble and the time for you to try that. Try to collect this back jail you see the slot yeah ma'am, we see we all see a lot of the alarming thing is how many bad contractors and bad people are there other some great good people to but just based on the sheer volume of the amount of times we get this same question, or some variation of it. It's alarming man and you made the comment we don't even a lot of know attorneys get to do this for free, but even beyond that, I think there's a distinction.

This is the type of thing that attorney, at least in my experience is generally gonna do on a contingent fee basis. Either you with.

I could be one of the situations like personal injury case were there to say if you recover, I'll get paid at that point. This is something like you said you have to put in some money up front on this will be some time spent so there's it's hard to get a guarantee on collection there yeah and I love signed by collections, but one other thing that you're touching on Joe is the amount of bad contractors. I hope that people listening to this. What they really get out of it is that you need to do your homework at the outset before you put money out for a contractor they got me some things you can look for. Make sure that there actually a license contract contractor that they have some skin in the game that there is kind of a licensing board that you could go to if they take your money and run so that there are some consequences available against these contractors in in lieu of actually suing them, so make sure that their license contractors make sure they've got good reviews for good communication, timely work, good quality work. You know what I would know that being said reviews. This is just as an aside, I just get frustrated myself and refuse like if you got a company that has overwhelmingly positive reviews and I got the one one star review from the crazy person must not let that crazy person the numerous sane people. The yeah and that you know that you know where were attorneys. You know I do a lot of electricians and we represent.

Like a lot of electricians, a lot of plumbers are general contractors. A lot of builders so we do find other good ones out there.

As the ones we represent a really above or didn't try very hard and and the bad ones out there.

You need something in writing.

You know I'm I'm an attorney I'm not can hire some I to do work for 2000 and draft up a 15 page contractor lays out every possibility.

And what happens, but you do need something in writing. You know it is something that shows what they were going to do the scope of work.

What you cannot pay when you're going to pay make and be a page can be two pages but you gotta give. When you go to the attorney to say I had a Kaiser agreement 2000. Our deposit we need to know is actually in breach okay what did he say he was going to do when did when did she say she was can I have it done by you know you need to be able to prove the contractor has has as is and has, in fact, breach, and if there is no written agreement. It's your word against the contractor's words, there needs to be some some bare-bones writing is a have to be drafted by you know a Supreme Court justice. It just has to lay out what's being done in the way your body expects and is always really easy not to do that. Especially if you have a unity met with the contractor. Yet a good feeling about the contractor. I'm a big handshake guy even though that goes against my attorney instincts. Get out of my mind. Being raised in the exterior shaking your contractors hand Earl Furman is gotta be a lot of what you tell me if it's a fish handshake. You're not going to unite and how they got dead fish handshake you're deftly losing her to grant that you pay this person, but so if someone comes to me a wish they do this to Graham. I look we we charge every time everything's different semi avoiding giving giving our fees but again we talked in a prior show about what an attorney usually will take on a contingency fee. I just said is, personal injury, auto accidents, and there's an insurance company when attorney knows reasonably. There should be some kind of somewhat collect way to collect that money you know a contractor whose take you to green and Ron we have a term we will hear attorneys around judgment proof right so you know, if you pay an attorney you you win in in in court and you get a $2000 judgment how you get a $2000. You know what is this guy is usually good judgment against someone you're going to go try to collect with things that they own is in the sheriff out to their house to try to sell some personal property, maybe you have a lien on some real property they own but the kind of person that would run away with your $2000 is also the kind of person that probably doesn't have a lot of stuff to collect judgment on and so we have this console where our client is very mad there out to Gran we get it we would want that to happen to us a lot of money. There's all these reasons why maybe throwing more money. After that 2000 is not that you know which segments not the wisest use of your funds not prudent.

Yeah that's right where Jeff and the $2000 so there are different courts, different levels of courts in North Carolina $2000 is in the small claims range. That's up to $10,000 and you could. There are many people that do go to small claims court on their own, so it it's many people are able to figure out the small claims system on their own. It's slightly less formal than Superior Court or district court. The judges are very understanding of folks that don't know all of civil procedure but a lot of times those judgments are also a little bit more on the side of splitting the baby as well. If both parties are there, it's frequently kind of a compromised solution to what's going on because not all of the proof is available frequently for small claims matters.

There are still some expenses that you would pay going to small claims on your own hundred $20 right off the bat just to file an action and then you do need to have them served so that they really did disappear. You might not have an address where you can actually serve them to get them to court so there are a lot of hurdles in the way between having someone who breached a contract and you're in the right but the journey to getting that money back is is a long one thing is hard for people running is hard for people to be out $2000. In this example but also to be I don't I don't want this. Gotta get away with it and in and I get that. But how, how much more you willing to pay it to them to make them pay is a know says that throwing that good money after bad as my grandma would've would've put it back in the day, but you know when you go to consult an attorney attorney should advise you and so there's the legal advice sure you can you can see this kind small claims you can sue in District Court. You can write a demand letter. You can do you can do all these things but there's also the part of the lies were at war. This is what it will cost you collecting yeah I don't see were the guy owns anything that you're going after men met and maybe this is in the best use of your funds, you know were were were always happy to help, but we sometimes we tell you made your best option is not doing anything in NS is coming from a more practical standpoint, I let me ask you this guys and obscure through the sense so is this something like from I guess a shoddy contractors perspectives it learned behavior. I mean, the fact that they know they can get away with it there, running this game. I mean ages, it's concerning that you know it's almost like is it worth that they know that. And so it's almost like they're playing the game. The keep it around a certain amount of money and they run acute, we have folks we have bad actors like this that are trying to take advantage of people are absolutely, they are absolutely trying to do that.

That's what comes back to what good Sandra said, you know to do your homework on the front and at this point they got yeah so it's it's a matter of being intelligent on the front of the process and not giving them them the advantage are some that are taking advantage to that level. But I like to believe that most of these contractors are entering it these contracts with the intention of following through. When something happens, they lose their like prime crewmember or there's a supply shortage that they're not able to remedy or find another way to get the supplies or something happens in their personal life. Whatever the case may be. I think the ones that are doing it repeatedly at the house of cards, and even if individuals that they're doing it to aren't able to stop them.

I think the overall scheme is not going to work long term for anyone. Good point.

Now, not what you said I don't I don't know that we we have a broad paint brush and paint these folks is as bad actors, but things happen.

I think that the person or fact pattern is a bad actor you are someone whose ghosting contacted natural backup completely.

But you're right. There's deftly nuance to it and there's definitely folks that are bad people that you have unfortunate circumstances that that come up. And that's why a lot of the times in these consults. I tried to give some alternative options to at least attempt to get back in communication with their contractors just telling them you know that that honey is better than vinegar. In this situation like reach out with like, hey, I'd really like to work this out. I don't want to pursue any action and I don't want to contact the licensing board. I don't want to leave you a bad review. Let's just work this out.

I think it's a given people legal advice. We should just dispense folks see one-liners or we just learn how to do a general construction today. I will say this is nice to have Cassandra Nicholas on the on the program because she is glass half-full. You know, let's do this smoothly. Let's be nice and Josh Jarrett de-escalation our IDL outliers Josh Whitaker Joe Haber and Cassandra Nicholas we have more listener questions to get to next up is going to be your college freshman is headed to college out of state very soon. What kind of legal documentation should he or she have in place before they actually move out of state that's going up next on the yellow lawyer. Now remember if you got a legal situation you're facing. You can always get in touch with the firm. 800-659-1186. That's 800-659-1186 leave your contact information briefly with calls about an attorney with Whitaker and Hamer will be in touch and again you can email the questions of the show will answer him on a future program back right after this, and Gastonia. We talked the legalese each and every week and were right in the middle of a listener question program will get to the next question in the second but if you got a situation you're facing, and you need some answers.

I got a phone number for you 800-659-1186. That's 800-659-1186 leave your contact information briefly what that calls about an attorney with Whitaker and Hamer will be in touch with you to help you answer those questions and also you can always send those questions to the show that's and will answer them on the future program. Check out the website to the next question up is college freshman headed off to college out of state very very soon. What kind of legal documentation should he or she have in place before they actually move out-of-state Josh quality morning I went to college in the mid-90s and I don't know that I are are you know I have only then there was a lot of thought put into you know your you're over 18 you're your you're an adult for most legal situations. When I never thought about estate planning. I do know it had a really good CD player. I want to see players and you like 100 CDs in.

Besides that, my karma that I really own very much. I don't think that you have in your 18 you're not thinking about getting her getting maimed, getting God forbid you have some time to get killed, obscure everything about estate planning is hard to make 4050-year-old people think about estate planning, let alone 18-year-old Cassandra, when you when you left home and went to school to have any kind of estate planning powers of attorney you have any of that in place, absolutely not. No idea that was the thing you could tell you you have to tell me what it is first for me to even know that I needed not sure is an 18-year-old, I would've agreed the note what you got a lot of folks. Now this is become really popular over the past 5 to 10 years we get this call a lot you know and this time a year in the July, August week summer time when people or you know I think I think I don't know this in a highly scientific data, but I get the feeling you know, at least in our area. Maybe kids stay home a little longer, you know, and I moved out as soon as I can. I can move out, you know, in my my parents are great folks in and help me through college, but I get the feeling now that parents may be help a little longer than that parents did, 10, 15, 25 years ago. I do think that's becoming much more the norm in the US.

I'm not sure about North Carolina.

Specifically, the thing aside What were this is were Seeing Eye space at all. Why did people that I talked to and things like that but you want to call the K what documentation do I need to have in place because you a lot times parents of that age are still involved with doctors and dentist and a lot maybe still help you schedule appointments and income to keep up with your medical records and repriced on their insurance plan.

A lot of times you're going someone to do that now. The daylight so the first thing I usually talk to about his is probably a good idea if if if if your 18, 19, 20-year-old is is on board.

Like Cassandra said, some might not be on board, but you know a healthcare power of attorney, something that always makes sense to me. Cassandra, what's we talked about on the show before with the healthcare power of attorney so that is allowing the parent a little more oversight of the healthcare to their children will have more rights if the child does end up you know hurt, maimed, sick, something like that in the hospital they can show the doctor their healthcare power of attorney and have a little bit more access to what's going on with their child in a little bit more decision-making power yet so healthcare powertrain a lot of things to be a specific and broad as you needed to be wrapping the average healthcare power of attorney so your college freshman freshman zombie.

Every team is going to be an adult unit or doctors may not talk to you anymore. Will let you schedule appointments won't let you see medical records because they're dealing with with an adult and they they don't have to unite the Guardian anymore. You're not in the same position you are.

So if your college freshman or sophomore. What have you is is is on board they can sign healthcare power of attorney, basically telling doctors and folks that they can talk to you they can discuss healthcare issues with you and of course it will do things like if if your college freshman becomes incapacitated can make their own medical decisions in this healthcare POA.

If the treating physician has on file know to reach out to you don't have your cell phone number, though I have your address so you can you can help participate in healthcare decisions. If your your college-age son or daughter can't can't do that so healthcare POA is is not very expensive to draft and I think can come in handy. I think we see that most times if your you know if your parents still helping your son or daughter in college with financial decisions and your helping them on that side and maybe even what I would call it a business or real power of attorney would be handy and that allowed the parents to you know if businesswise or anything else sign contracts on behalf of their child. They can so sign documents for them in basically any context in which I would, write checks, you know if if you know and then the negatives in the next daddy I don't know what kids today when they get to college I known anything. Sounds like a said my sweet sweet CD player and I was very proud of what you know if if you're way way way way way define, sweet, sweet, so my my CD player had. It was like one is 100 CDs and shuffle how it's something I was very proud of the work very hard to obtain it. I don't have it anymore didn't did it make weird dates impressed with the size of that CD changer, that's incredible. I think everybody was, I think it's hard.

I select today somewhere I would still be impressed about Alexa. The fact that you got 100 CDs that you can put in it and that it had to physically move into CDs and assist with jazz and to wait for the song switching between songs on different CDs. It right now if my like if my iPhone decides that it's going to like pause modified for second annoyed so Josh go to CDs. If you had to name a couple that were in there that you just wore out.

That's good? I wasn't prepared for that question yet hundred of a money pit to I think you know I some rage yeah I think I think really I think the first rage against the machine would be in their think master puppets would've been in there well I think we would've had back to back. Then I think we would have some some Fuji's are some loonies in there would've been a house that was I think right at college time was and is going back to my classic rock phase center been some black Sabbath and there is a nice healthy mix. Morgan tell you it's it's always interesting to come up you will back that little bit on Josh Joe and Cassandra so hello lawyers, we got one more segment to go will leave that open to well you know you're gonna be able to figure out exactly where were going next. The lawyers Josh Whitaker Joe Hamer and again Cassandra Nicholas. They are pricing attorneys here in North Carolina. Josh Joe, the managing partners of Whitaker and Hamer law firm.

They have offices conveniently located in Raleigh, Garner Clayton goals were a few quavering and Gastonia. If you're facing a legal situation you got questions, I got a phone number for you 800-659-1186 at 800-659-1186 leave your contact information briefly what that calls about an attorney will be in touch with you to help you answer those questions, you can always send those questions to the show questions at the owl. All I and we will answer those on future programs will be right back right after this, you listen to managing partners, Whitaker and Hamer law firm. We also have Cassandra Nicholas, one of the attorneys talented her attorneys at Whitaker in Hamer they are pricing attorneys here in North Carolina. They have a office location in Raleigh Garner Clayton goals were a few quavering and Gastonia, so convenient to you if you got a legal situation you're facing.

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I think that's it. I have that we call adjudicative County as I have a big video library were we do this we can take questions are general topics in which I get people moving in the right direction and most of those two notes are pretty short and to the point, they've got specific topics laid out so you don't have to listen to us for a full hour like you also get to see our faces so you can browse by topic and look for the specific thing that you want to know about the new owners for five, six, seven years now, so we we really have got a good database there and so that's that's free that's just there that's that's something you can use it anytime you want to. We are website is couple other cool features. If your client there's a way to login and kinda keep track with your with your civil case or your criminal case and so that's there and if can you get a WH that lawyer that's where are we do a lot of real estate transactional firm does a lot of real estate closings were people buying residential commercial property refinancing residential commercial property and so we have Jarvis is our our AI assistant Aaron safety go to our website Jarvis.

That's where he lives, they can answer a lot of real estate law questions for you, keep you updated on your your closing and so a lot of things at the website we can work on that website. Try to get some stuff on their attorneys and content website. It's got our bios on you can learn more about us.

I had someone yesterday to consult that had already read my bio and they went to a college in the same conference is nine in Minnesota, so maybe you can find out we have a connection to your consult. If you check out our website for the firm and we have our office locations and so like Maureen always tells you, you know where were in Raleigh are we going office in Raleigh garner Clayton Fuquay, Goldsboro and Gastonia and we have a couple more offices slated to open before the end of the year so we really do try to cover North Carolina try to be close to where our our clients need us to be and there's there's something to be said in our law firm really tries to have again attorneys I can practice in multiple areas and attorneys I can cover our our clients who may be statewide. You know, we reps and a lot of businesses that are regional in and things like that so just a little bit more about the law firm there for for folks we do really value your input on the show.

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