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Complimentary consult on estate planning. You can also visit the website WHATS. Dot lawyer. Josh, what's up? I'm I'm still uh I I'm still uh I'm still tired.
I'm still tired from the weekend. From and from every other week we've ever done this show. What? Yeah. Yeah.
It's just that one day I'm gonna have. piles of energy, but that that day is not is not today. The weekend wore me out. I was going to say, you're not the caffeine that we need for the show. We need some pop.
We need Joe. Joe's here.
Now, I'm depressed now. I was feeling really good, and then I heard Josh say that.
Now I've fallen into a deep state of depression. It's real gross outside. Oh, yeah. Weather this week, not great. The.
So we went we I haven't I have not been to a a Carolina Panthers game. I spend a lot of time here here in Raleigh, so I don't get to Charlotte as often as I as I used to. And we we went down and got a hotel room. If you listen to this show, you know most of my family is Bills fans. I'm a Panthers fan.
One of my kids is I'm slowly converting him to a Panthers fan, which is tough. Yeah. That's a hard. You pay the bills, you put food on the table, you just take a couple of those things away for them. And I think you'll whip him into shape quick, man.
So we get tickets to watch the Bills Panthers and My wife coordinated the event. She has family down here, and we ended up pretty high up in that stadium. I hadn't been there in a while. That was the worst game I've ever seen in person. It was a terrible game.
I think I think I've actually seen a worse Panthers game in person. I I'm big Panthers big Panthers guy here. And uh Every game I've been to. The Aegis B It's like kryptonite, man. I don't know what it is.
They blow it and they're terrible.
So I've seen some real misery there, man. I saw your wife posted a nice picture gloating. Smiling. And I saw you in the background just looking depressed. And um I felt for you, man.
I did. If you're familiar with the Panther Stadium, I was up on the 500, so I was up top and uh Kinda on the visitor side, right?
So I mean I didn't expect a lot of Panthers fans. It was two Panthers fans in my section, man. It was me. And this other guy, who was pretty funny because you have to have rough, man. I heard it was pretty rough.
Well, my um my daughter and her fiance, they flew up from uh Orlando. Uh they're they're Bills fans. And they met some of their family that flew down from Buffalo. And apparently uh Bills Mafia took over the stadium. And you can you can speak to that, Josh.
You were there, but there was a rumor they were in the thirty to forty thousand Buffalo Bills fans. I would believe it. You know, the Panthers haven't been good for a long time, and they're showing some signs of life. I thought it would be a competitive game, and maybe if our backup quarterback did not have a great game by any means, say his name, man. Say his name.
I don't even remember him. Say his name. But that's one of the worst performances, man. And I mean, it's easy for me to say in my chair here doing the radio. Um I shudder to think what I'd look like out there, but Red rifle.
You're not taking a paycheck to be out there, though. That's true. That's true. It is one of the. You'd be hard pressed to find a more difficult performance, man.
I can't imagine it was a highlight. of of Andy's career. Good guy though, man. Good good positive guy. And he got him.
But I feel for me more having to watch. It was so bad. And then. You know, they the the hotel rooms go quick, and so we kind of we kinda waited. Waited too long, and so we have three boys.
We usually get one of the hotel rooms that are connected, so the kids can sleep on one side, and you got your own, like, little.
Well that didn't happen.
So we were all crammed into one room and everybody in my family snores Talks in their sleep. Kicks. What? Everybody in your family does? Yeah, I'm the only one I think that sleeps normally.
So, like, no sleep. What nightmare family have you got, man? Wait a minute. You don't sleep normally. You're asleep.
You don't know. I guarantee you, you talk answers. Josh just stays up and watches his family kick each other and talk to each other in their sleep all night. And so then j you know Drove there, drove back Sunday night, was tired all day the next day, and I think I'm finally catching up. But the train, I think we're doing that next time.
I think we're taking the train. We got tickets to see him play Tampa Bay in a couple of weeks, and I think we're going to do that train down that drops you off right by the stadium, picks you right back up, takes you back to Raleigh. You guys are pretty legit Panthers fans, man, and I commend you for your dedication. Yeah, my daughter flew in, trained over to Raleigh after, I guess she went on, she didn't go game day, but she went Monday. She trained back this way, and she said it was great.
And it's a little longer. Obviously, there's some stops, but I think the Carolina Express or whatever they call it for the Panthers game, it'll get you, Aaron, as you mentioned, drops you off right at the stadium, and then you just jump back on and it brings you back.
So it's a little bit longer of a commute, but hey, you don't have to drive. You know if we were in China though. We'd have some kind of bullet train. You know, China's really pretty far advanced on man. But yes, I get to turn the page on that game.
That was that was rough. And uh I really didn't think it was good. Hey, you know what? You know what's good, though? You know what's good?
You know, it'll cheer you right back up, man. Yeah. hometown Charlotte Hornets. Maybe the best basketball team in the world. They look good so far.
Incredible. Just incredible, man. Yeah, I'm I'm excited about that. We've watched um They play tonight. We're in the studio on Tuesday.
They'll play tonight. But I've watched a couple of games and everybody's trying. We got talent on that team. What you can ask for, man? Everybody's trying.
Yeah, 'cause that's not always the way it is. No, it's not. It's not. But uh. I've been impressed.
And then college basketball's about to start so I can throw myself into college basketball too. But um Yeah, so today Today, Morgan, as always, we are going to talk about some estate planning. I did come across a list of odd Uh, North Carolina laws that are kind of outdated or are still on the books, and I think that always kind of surprises some people. We're not very good. Our legislature, our legislature leaders are always very good about making laws.
I do think we should have a commission that's constantly repealing laws. Like, I like the idea: for every law you put on the books, you got to take an old one. Off. Right.
So there's still some the Josh Whitaker. legal system Too off, yeah. I think y y you run out eventually, you know, and then we can it should be the old west, that's what you want. But um So we're going to talk about that. We got a good show planned.
I'll perk up. I'll get some energy. You promise? I promise. All right, Judica County Radio, we've got more coming up on the other side.
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Just call 919-77270000. That's 919-77270000. You can also visit the website, wh.lawyer. That's wh. Again, we're going to get into estate planning and also the odd laws still on the books in the great state of North Carolina.
That's coming up next. You're listening to Judica County Radio. Yeah. Welcome back in to Judica County Radio, your host, Josh Whitaker and Joe Hamer, managing partners, Whitaker and Hamer law firm, practicing attorneys here in North Carolina. And of course, the power behind the program is Whitaker and Hamer.
Law. Offices located Raleigh, Garner, Cleveland, Clayton, Goldsboro, Fuque, Verina, Gastoni, and Moorhead City for your convenience. And we have complimentary consults around estate planning available. All you got to do is call 919-77270000. That's 919-77270000.
You can also visit the website wh.lawyer. That's wh. Dante lawyer, Josh. Yeah, so in, you know, I was reading, I was reading this week, and I was reading. For one, I was reading for a couple of things.
I was looking for a couple things. One, We haven't really had our Halloween themed. Episode Haven't we? Did we? I don't know, man.
Maybe we didn't. You you have a better memory than me, so and you actually read, so Yeah, So, I was trying to find a list of like, you know, spooky, scary stuff, and I never found what I was looking for.
So, I did find a list of kind of outdated. Outdated laws in North Carolina, or laws that are still in the books and don't get enforced, which is always weird to me, right? Because something can be illegal. But if the police, wherever you're at, or the DA doesn't really prosecute those crimes, it doesn't matter if it's illegal, right? Because no one's.
No one's enforcing it. Which seems odd when you say it out loud, right? If there's a law in the books and you break it, it should be enforced, but. Yeah. how it always works, you know.
I feel like you'd love that, though, man. You hate laws.
So isn't that your dream? I do. I just think there's too many, right? You know, there's too many laws and. Um We need to get rid of some, but these were some weird ones, and I got a big list here, and I'm only going to pick and choose some of them.
Um But you know And some of these are just completely outdated, you know.
So there's a law still in the books where you're not allowed to. use profane or obscene language. over the telephone. Oh man. Lock me up, brother.
Yeah, so there's no cursing over the telephone, right? No, uh. Nothing uh obscene or explicit over the phone. And that comes from, you know, that dates back to a time where there might have been an operator connecting you on the phone. It was.
before you could text, right? Breast. Technically, still in the books. And you can, it's a, it was a, what was it? Looks like if this is to be believed, it was.
It was a misdemeanor. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't know, man. That'd be a tough one. That'd be a tough one.
I uh I cannot say that I've never used profanity over the phone. Before I probably have. Oh, you have. I've heard it. I've heard it.
I don't use a. I don't think I use a lot of Profanity in my day-to-day. And once you have kids, you get real soft. Yeah, but you go in the closet to talk on the phone and do your cussing, right? But I think that dates back to when we were more Gentile You know, society, and you didn't want someone to overhear your, your.
Swear words. Yeah. That's a good one. I think we keep that one. I think we started enforcing it.
Started enforcing it harder. Locking people up in detention camps if they could. We should start enforcing it in public. You know, when I was down in Charlotte this weekend, I can't tell you how many people. I heard a lot of people baptized by fire with the cuss words.
It's hard. It's hard to be there to root for a team and then the team, you know, have a bad game or whatever and then you're. I see why so many fans Usually, you go to a game, let's say you go to watch the NC State Wolf Pack. Normally, it's mostly state fans, right? Or you go watch Duke play.
There's not going to be a lot of people. Yeah, Duke's not a great example. Duke basketball, yeah, Duke football, we get a lot of. As a big football fan, we get a lot of visitors in the building, yeah. That's a typical experience.
Bre breads. It's hard to sit there and root for a team when it was like you're surrounded by The other team's fans, you know. I've done it. I've gone to enemy territory before, and you gotta, man, there's a classy way to play it, right? Like, you don't want to be the guy that's just standing up and hip thrusting every play.
Yeah. And you're just asking for it. I've seen it, you know, you got there's a tactful way to approach cheering. Three clap maximum after a good play. Right.
And then you can tip your hat. Those are the things. A little hat tip for the good plays. You can tip your hat for a good play and do three claps. Anything worse than beyond that.
Fist fight. Immediate fist fight, I think. That should be a law. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. We need a certain I was going to jump in and say that a couple of stories.
The hurricanes early on, especially Greensboro days, first two years, we're talking 25 years ago, and then early on in the Raleigh run. They were not good. And We have such a melting pot here. You talk about opposing fans, you know, the Montreal's, especially when we had, what was it, was it Nortel? I mean, we had like Toronto fans, we had Montreal fans, we had a lot of fans, Philly fans, Boston fans, they were all here and they would fill up.
you know, a large portion of the arena and that that that's tough to that's tough to sit through. I can't remember. We played Vancouver one year, and I remember in the playoffs, and we had all the Vancouver people coming down because it was cheaper for them to get a flight, a hotel, and tickets in Carolina than it was to see a game in Vancouver. That's crazy. And uh and there was a ton of but you know, they're Vancouver fans are probably pretty nice, I guess, right?
I don't remember. Early days of Duke football resurgence when Cutcliffe first got hired. I remember those tickets were s you could get season tickets so cheap that fans would buy season tickets for like one game. and they'd come. Um Oh yeah, Miami would do that.
And back when uh and Virginia Tech would do that. They would buy the season ticket just for the hockey game, and that was when Vic was there. And and it was like a a r rock and roll tour. When Virginia Tech would show up with Vic, and everybody would just want to see him play. And.
Yeah. I remember back in the 90s when I was in college, like you'd go to if state played Duke, you'd go over there because it was like $5 to get in. and see a state game. That's been a good idea. Had the opportunity to go to Virginia Tech when Duke went up there and beat him.
And we were wearing our Duke gear. And I know. Yeah, it was probably looked really good on you, Morgan. I was gonna say, you might have been the best you've ever looked, man.
Well, at that time, I was working with Duke, so I had a lot of Duke gear, and we were in the middle of Hokie Nation and Yeah, they were very they were cool to us until right at the end when it was pretty clear Duke was going to get that win. Things tend to be. They weren't very happy with us. I think the most hostile environment I ever experienced. I'm a Panthers fan, but I got invited to uh Redskins, when they were the Redskins, versus the Eagles Monday night football in Philly.
And That it Is it I could if I wa I I did not wear Redskins gay. I was pulling for the Redskins, you know, just 'cause I was with a group of people that that were Redskins fans, but I had nothing, no identifying I was very neutral. And I saw very tense situation. You go in the bathroom, and it's like you're in prison, man. You got to keep your guard up, have a shiv.
Like, it was very. Everybody's looking to cause a problem for you. Everybody. It was nuts, man.
Well, no, no, no, it got sauced up, and uh it was tough, man. Yeah, the UNC at NC State, that was never a comfortable time. I have a bunch of state fans that are friends, and they're like, Yeah, come to the game, but I would dress neutral. I go, I'm not dressing neutral. I'm wearing the baby blue.
That's a bold choice. That is. But they're fans, they're fans. And I mean, you know. For the most part.
Everybody was was nice. Yeah, there are places like Philly where people aren't nice. No, the people by and large I mean, for every one nice person, I think you had thirty two that were breaking the the swear law. pretty consistently where I was stopped. Where I was sitting for the Panthers Bills game, there was a Panthers guy like a section over.
And he was a big guy. He was wearing a real tight jersey. Like it was a house. Because I noticed him earlier because he looked like he's about to pop out of his jersey. But he's a big dude.
And um He started jawing early on when we thought it was going to be competitive. He started jawing with some Bills fans. I was like, man, I think this is going to get out of hand. And I'm hoping he's not expecting help from me. Your closest Panthers fan.
I'm not the type of guy that would step right up. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not bailing you out, man. Yeah, it's like, hey, guy, good job, but you're on an island.
Don't expect me to come over there. You're sticking two to three claps and a head nod formula to stay out of trouble. But I think for his benefit, the Panthers were so bad at some point he just gave up. What do you do at that point? Yeah.
Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, and I'm sure the Bills fans are just, you know. They feel for you. I don't know that I'd want to be a Panthers fan starting a fight with Bills fans at that game because you'd have been outnumbered like 48-1. In any road or something.
That's not a good look, man. That's not what you want. Yeah, we need to find out we n and this is a Bill's question, and may maybe your wife knows, Josh. What is the deal with the collapsible tailgating table where people jump on it from from a like a height? Like they get up five or six feet above it and they they they throw themselves at this table and they crush it.
What what is why do they do that? I think that's pretty fun personally. Yeah, I think that's pretty cool. I don't know. I'm an original wrestling fan.
Yeah, I was going to say: is that a pro-wrestling came from? I think that's where it came from. I think it's a great tradition.
So, how did you blow out your shoulder?
Well. I was at a tailgate. And I decided to climb up on a ladder. And jump 10 feet into a table. We would do that there in my row.
Back in my rowdy days, we would didn't even have to be a game. You know, any activity, there's a table. It's like, hey, Let's bring it. There's a table here. Let's slam someone through this table.
That'll be fun. No, I think I think I think Bills fans have figured it out. I think their tailgates are probably a little bit better. And I didn't see, you know, we didn't have to park, we were at a hotel, so we. We walked over, so I didn't really see what the Panthers have going on these days as far as the tailgate goes.
I assume Panthers culture is probably at an all-time low just because no, no, it can't. No, man. It's been lower. It's actually on an upswing, it's on an uptick. It's not at the all-time low.
We're probably cresting from the all-time low. Um But still low, much lower than it has been before. You went to a game in 2015. Very different scenario. Very good home field advantage, very good fan support, but you just get beat down.
I think the last time I used to, when the Panthers first got started, I went to a lot of games, went to a lot of Hornets games, and then I kind of slowed down.
So I think the last Panthers game I went to. Bianca Patuca was the running back. Oh wow. Yeah, I think I saw Tim Biakapatuka take it the distance one. That's an all-time name for a player.
Yeah. Tim. Yeah, I went years ago. Cam was just absolutely at his peak, and he single-handedly beat the Vikings. I mean, it was by himself.
It was incredible. It was incredible. He was such a, you know, you watch him on TV, but you get anywhere close to the field, and you just see the physical size of these guys, and he was the quarterback. And he was as, well, as tall as his lineman or taller. And then he was just taking hit after hit after hit.
And I looked at my son, I'm like, there's no way. he's going to have a long career in the NFL because he's just getting hit too much. The um So, this next law that I got, you know, so we got sidetracked there because we just talked about obscene. language, profanity used on the telephone is still technically a misdemeanor. Slightly sidetracked.
Here's the one. There's a couple coming up here in a row that I have problems with. In North Carolina, We have a we have very antiquated Alcohol. Laws: the sale of alcohol, when you can buy alcohol. You know, we we have uh we have the ABC Commission.
very antiquated alcohol laws compared to some other states. But the one that I've always disliked the most No happy hours. Can't have a happy hour. You can't discount liquor for. It it's gotta be as Special all day long.
You can't do it for an hour. Yeah, the happy day as opposed to a happy hour. And you go to you go to other states, they'll have the happy hour after work. Right.
And I guess the the theory behind the law is you don't want people pounding Alcohol during that hour.
So, yeah, give him a whole day. That doesn't work for you though, Josh. You gotta have the power hour of pounding. And uh So, you don't like that one, huh? That one's a thumb two thumbs down from Josh Whitaker.
No happy hour. I want to vote that they go do like a happy hour just for chicken wings and like cut them into half. Like half price.
Now you're told. One hour. Give me half price. Let me get in there, get my wings, get my fill, and get out of there. Because right now, you got to take out a loan to get wings.
Yeah. That is true, man. That is someone to write a letter to the president about that. Interest-free installments. That's right.
The uh What was what was the did y'all have the did y'all have the power hour when you were when you were in college? Wasn't there something called the power hour where you drink like a little bit of beer every minute or something? Wasn't that a thing? That making that up? Yeah.
We had a lot of things. I don't fully recall that one. They might have phased that one out. Um after your time, you you might have been the last power hour, but uh Maybe, maybe. Oh, if I did that, I'd just forget about it the next day.
So maybe I did it. When you get old the drinking games get phased out anyway. We could bring him back. Not a bad idea. Not a bad idea.
Can't do it on the radio, but yeah, we could do it at Shady's or something. But anyway, we need to take a break. We'll come back on the other side. We'll continue with our discussion again. Odd laws still in the books in North Carolina, some estate planning.
We'll have that conversation as well. But Judica County Radio, your hosts are Josh Whitaker and Joe Hamer, Managing Partners, Whitaker and Hamer Law Firm and Practicing Attorneys here in North Carolina. For one of our complimentary consults on estate planning, just give us a call: 919-7727000. That's 919-772-7000. You can also visit our website, WHO.
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Josh.
So, you know, we're spending some time talking about these old laws that are on the books, you know, and we're doing it kind of tongue-in-cheek. We're just doing it to have some fun. But there are. You know, and to connect it back to estate planning, there are things you can do, and there's things you can't do. And um And North Carolina statutes are what we have to go by.
So we have people coming all the time as part of their state planning consult and want to do certain things that are. unwise because of the statutes or Don't make sense because of the statutes, you know. leaving things to You know, you know, one of the things that comes up a lot is you can't, you know, an underage, somebody under 18 can't hold title. effectively to real property. And that comes up a lot, you know, like having to you know, if you if something happens to you while you have young kids or you have young grandkids you want to leave things to that are 18, we end up talking to you about a trust.
Right, we have to create another way that these kids These underage children can get the benefit of these assets you want them to have because you can't just. It's very unwise to just deed property to someone under eighteen 'cause they can't They can't do anything with it. Um And so we end up talking about trust a lot with people, but that's just an example of there's things in estate planning you can do, and there's things that you can't do, and a good estate planning attorney can still. Achieve those goals for you, but you have to work within the construct of what the legal system has put out there. That was a good thought, man.
I don't even think he's monk. No follow-up. I don't have any that was. You killed that. That was great, man.
So I was looking at this I was looking at this list of outdated laws And, you know, gambling. has always been um Regulated, right? Gambling is is not looked favorably on Is not looked upon favorably by the law here in North Carolina. While we talk about sports betting is now. legal in certain ways using certain I guess apps, right?
Or if you're at a casino. Apps or a casino, yeah. There's there's plenty of apps. I'm not going to name them 'cause we don't know 'cause, you know, it's not for us, you know. But yeah, they're out there.
Yeah, so it's softened a little bit, but when I was looking through these laws, one game. specifically kept kept coming up as like heavily regulated. And you wouldn't, I don't know, I wouldn't have thought about it. But you know, one of the most heavily regulated. betting type games is in North Carolina.
Uh bingo. Bingo. Yeah. Bingo. I didn't even we even talk about this before, man.
Yeah, man, if you want to play bingo, there's a state law that limits how many times a week you can have a bingo game. Can't drink at a bingo game. Can't drink openly at a bingo game. Con convert. I think I think it just says you can't drink at all.
I think that's what it says. I'm actually pulling the law up right now. Where's the fun in that, man? I mean, even if it's got a styrofoam that's got a lid on it, people can't tell. Yeah, people can't tell.
Morgan, you're fine, man. I'm going to give you legal approval to do that. Right here, right now. And you can't do bingo for profit, right? This bingo is only allowed as a fundraiser for charitable organizations, right?
So that's the only time it's allowed. And then when it is allowed, it's limited to two sessions per week. Maximum hours each session is five, no alcohol.
So, if you want to, if your church, I guess that used to be a big deal in the Catholic Church, right? They'd have bingo night. Um But uh yeah, bingo. The law wants to protect you from the dangers of for-profit. Alcoholic bingo.
A lot of people have had their lives wrecked. By Alcoholic Bingo Man. You know. That's it.
Well, and since you guys brought it up, I mean, they've got all kinds of stuff going on with the NBA, and it's just the tip of the iceberg. They're going to have.
So it's. illegal poker games or or private poker games where they had celebrities slash, you know, former athletes as they called them face cards. They would be in the game. But the game was run by uh the mafia.
So, all kinds of ties to organized crime, and the games were rigged. And so they had these fish, people coming in with big bankrolls that were getting taken. And This story is really starting to develop, and it's going to go a lot deeper. And yeah, we're just seeing the beginning of it. And the NBA could be in some serious trouble.
And they're not really talking about it. Adam Silver, obviously head of the NBA commissioner there, he's not saying much because right now they're probably just they're probably blown away at how bad this could be. Have you gone and watched any of Terry Rozier's uh highlights from the games that people are saying he threw. Oh, as a matter of fact. Yeah.
So Terry Roger is one of the basketball players that was accused of allegedly. Right.
Throw in these prop bets, right? Prop bets. Yeah, I've seen some guys. I've seen some guys At the rec center, playing that exact same way, man. I don't know what they what money they've got on the line, but uh.
look very familiar to some of these guys.
Well, just launching air balls. Right.
And you think about how precise some of the betting is now, and you can do these prop bets on individual stats in a particular game, and if a player If wind gets out that a player is going to have an injury and not be in the game for very long, and you s and that's what happened with this particular player. They noticed a heavy amount of betting traffic on his individual stats and then he went out of the game. Mm-hmm.
Well, they had that a couple weeks ago. Like, there was a. I can't remember. It was Green Bay, right? It was like week three or four.
It was Green Bay versus the. They got upset by somebody they weren't supposed to lose to. But they um They said on that particular NFL game, there was like, I don't remember what it was, some crazy number, like $1.8 billion was wagered, and that was the most ever wagered on a single regular season game.
So I guess the. The feds look at that to see if there was anything going on on there. But yeah, the. Gambling man The law doesn't like gambling. North Carolina.
Or bingo. Yeah. Free bingo, man. Let's get drunken bingo back on the ticket. We invite, we'll just, we'll have some big backroom, private, illegal, for-profit.
Alcohol-served bingo games. Yeah, not us, but somebody.
Somebody. Yeah, somebody will do that. I bet there's people out there hungry for that kind of bingo action. Yeah, just straight up itching, man. Sweat.
I need my alcohol bingo. I can't play this sober bingo. Yeah, and the bars have I mean, they branched out for years. They do the music bingo. They'll bring back the 80s, the one-hit wonders, and they'll hand out those bingo cards and Yeah, that's kind of fun.
Yeah, I've done the music bingo, man. It's enjoyable, and I can confirm. No law against alcohol at music bingo. That's right. That's very true.
People aren't even going to do the cha-cha slide when it plays if you if you shut the alcohol down. I thought this was a good one.
So, you know, there's a lot of laws on the books. Like, if you steal. Right, if you shoplift or you steal personal property, most of the laws have like a dollar amount where if you go over that, it's a it's a felony, right? And I don't have him in front of me, but let's say you still $500 of stuff from a store. Maybe that's a misdemeanor.
It goes over a thousand, and that's a felony. There's a law in the books in North Carolina where if you go into a restaurant, you steal. more than a thousand dollars in used grease. Oh. That is a felony.
That's on the books, brother. That's on the books. Used grease. Tell me, tell me, Josh. What are we going to use that used grease for?
What's your market he's at, right? I guess the the the list said it it was a law that uh back when everybody was trying to find alternate ways of you know, fueling up and there were some cars that would run on Grease or a product that you can make out of grease. That was something that was happening because most restaurants take their used grease, they have a receptacle out back that they store it in, and they have to pay for someone to come take. That grease. I spent a lot of time over the Arby's Fryers.
And I don't think there's a lot of value in used currents. At least there wasn't back then, you know.
So you could do this by choice, or is this a job you had when you were younger? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I manned the Friars at the Arby's and Garner for a while back in high school days. But Use Grease, man.
Who knew? You know, there's an episode of The Simpsons where Homer. That's how he's gonna make his fortune. He gets into the used grease business. It's a very good episode, if you're ever bored.
Yeah. I uh I do get bored, man. I'm going to watch it right now. Yeah, let's just see if I might get check back with me. That would honestly be a better use of your time.
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I'm Morgan Patrick. Pleasure to jump on with the attorneys. We're talking estate planning and also odd laws in the state of North Carolina that are still on the books. Very interesting discussion. If you have estate planning questions, we've got a complimentary consult for you on estate planning.
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I don't know if this next one is really, you know, we're talking about laws on the books, and a lot of the laws that we are talking about are kind of antiquated. They're like World War II-era laws that were. probably passed to prevent certain abuses that were popular at the time. which maybe don't really matter as much now. You know, we were talking about Charity Bingo.
Charity Bingo is heavily regulated in North Carolina. Maybe that doesn't really need to be the case, right? But it still is. It's still in the books. I don't see a lot of people getting popped for illegal Bingo rings, but um.
You could. You're not watching the right news channels, man. I'm not getting the real news. Yeah, you're getting that fake news that doesn't. There's a lot of people on the streets going down for federal agents.
busting in with their AR fifteens, just shutting down these bingo rings, man. body slamming grandmas at nursing homes. Terrible. It's terrible. The um You know, one that comes up a lot, and I don't know that it's antiquated necessarily, but one that surprises people is kind of our driving under the influence laws.
And this is a lot of states are like this, but you know, people think it's. A lot of people think it's, you know, just driving a car or a truck. But you can get a DUI driving a lawnmower. Right.
Yeah. You can get a DUI on a on a bicycle. Golf cart. Yeah. Any any machine anything that's not that?
You said that quick like you had experience with that Morgan. No, no, I've just there've been there've been several stories. There have been several stories out there where people have really been hurt. Um on golf carts where there was some alcohol Consumption going on. I've seen down at the beach, man, I've seen people pull over on the golf carts, you know, where it's routine where golf carts are kind of on the road and uh.
Those things really whiz, man, you can really scoot on some of those golf carts. Four wheelers. You know, anything that moves, you know, there's an old, there's an old George Jones video where he. He lost his license, so he's taking the lawnmower around town. That's how he gets to the bar.
But that doesn't help him, right? Like you get a Dewey on a on a lawnmower. And there's some videos out there that are pretty. Shocking how drunk people are on their lawnmower trying to scoot home, you know. Um But that one's still out there.
You know, that's that's something that I mean, I guess that's not going anywhere. Like I said, it's not antiquated, that's just the way it is. If you're inebriated on a moving vehicle on a roadway or in a parking lot. Um you know, they they can get you with that. There's also a lot of old laws that kind of date back to when we were more of a farming society.
When we are here in North Carolina, it was more agrarian, right? But it's still. a felony in some places to borrow your neighbor's mule without permission. I'm not going to steal this mule. I just need this mule to help me plow my field.
and I'm going to give it back. That can be a felony, you know? Like, and that's still there. It's a good law, man. That's a good law.
You've never had your neighbor just steal your mule, man, and you get home. from work. And they're just parading around on your mule like it's theirs. Until you know, you don't know why that's a felony, man. What an ass.
What an ass. We got to bring that up next time. What? Is it Benson that does the mule days? We got to bring that up.
See if that's still in the books down there in case somebody's borrowing some mules. If it's on the books anywhere. It's gonna be on the books and pensing, man. Benson, um Leading the nation in mule violations. Ordinances and violations and.
You do it on the old days every year, don't you? I don't think I've ever made it for Mule Days in Benson.
Okay. They do it up, though. Yeah, they do it up, man. I had to go one year. Had to go when my daughter was young.
She she did pageants. Fortunately, we've we've grown out of the pageants. We we did it pretty quick, but they put you in parades and they put her in the Middle Days parade. I think that don't they do the hollering contest of the mule days? I miss that.
I miss that, but do they? I can see it. I think it's Mule Days. I think it's Mule Days. Because I used to work with another.
DJ. uh in South Carolina and he would go up for that 'cause he was originally from Benson and and he was part of the hollering contest and and it's, you know, just the way you call people to supper and uh Yeah, it and people get pretty into it.
So it's not just a yell, it's There's a lot more to it. Yeah. But just a ton of laws like that still on the books. And You know, you hear me get on my um My megaphone here and talk about how we, you know, there's, I think there should be a commission that goes through and kind of removes all these and just cleans it up and makes it. you know.
What are we going to talk about if they do that? I don't think I've come up with real content, man. Don't nightmares that. They need some fantasy football legislation, alright? We need some fantasy football regulation.
Yeah, if I if Four of my best players get tragically injured during the season. I should get a refund plus Yeah, d double my payout. Just go ahead and pay me my money. Sign that in the wall. Yeah, 'cause you're it's not your fault, right?
No, it's not my fault. Absolutely not. I mean, maybe the curse that I clearly have. That impacts these poor men that I've put on my fantasy team. Maybe that's my fault, but like, no.
Yeah. This just in uh National Football League. Really hard on the body. The human body is brittle. Yeah.
Mm.
So is so is radio. Yeah. It's a little-known fact. Did you see? We're hurting ears all over the place.
Did you see the running back for the Giants? Did you see his ankle? That injury, that was terrible. Yeah, he is on my fantasy team. That's why it happened to him, man.
Yeah, I have him on one of mine, and it was a dislocation, but it certainly looked a lot worse. It looked terrible, man. He handled it far better than I think any of us would have probably handled that. I have broken both of my ankles at different times. Nothing like that.
Not in dislocation. But your ankle's is not. built for That kind of action. Yeah. Well, and and Josh, you had some Negative things to say about Philadelphia earlier, but there are stories coming out.
Because the game played Giants at Philly. He went to a Philly hospital, had surgery at the Philly hospital. And the guy that runs security for the head coach for the Eagles, Dom, whatever his name is. Big Dom. Big Dom.
He took Philly steaks and pizza. uh to Scatterbow and um Scottoo is one of those guys that kind of transcends team allegiance, man. He's just a guy that. There's not many people out there that that are hating on Scataboo, man. He he has real ground.
He was treated extremely well, and yeah, that story came out.
So I thought that was actually that was a pretty cool story for Philly. I mean, that that that kid's done for the year, obviously. Hopefully, he'll be able to come all the way back. Doesn't help. That doesn't help Joe's fantasy season.
No, it doesn't, man. It doesn't. He's not the only one. A lot of fallen soldiers out there. Yeah.
I've got no inside Illegal betting information that will help me to recover this season.
So if anybody knows a guy. Yeah, I don't know where all this inside information is coming from, but we're not getting it. We are not getting it, man. Not all right, Judica County Radio, we've got one more segment coming up on the other side. Want to remind you: our hosts are Josh Whitaker and Joe Hamer, managing partners, Whitaker and Hamer law firm, and again, practicing attorneys here in North Carolina.
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That's wh.lawyer. We've got more at Judica County, one more segment coming up on the other side. We are back on Judica County Radio, your host, Josh Whitaker, Joe Hamer, managing partners, Whitaker and Hamer law firm, practicing attorneys here in North Carolina. They've got offices in Raleigh, Garner, Cleveland, Clayton, Goldsboro, Fuquay Verena, Gastonia, and in Moorhead City. I'm Morgan Patrick.
We jump on, talk legalese, some oddities this week as far as laws that are still on the books. If you have any questions about your estate plan, we do have complimentary consults on estate planning. Maybe you haven't started, you've been thinking about it.
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You know, and Morgan, I guess it's probably a good time to just mention: you know, we like to have fun on the show. Uh you know you know we don't we don't try to get too down and dirty in uh in in in legal matters. We talk about estate planning a lot because most I mean, most everyone. Arguably, everyone needs some sort of estate plan. You may not need the most complicated estate plan ever.
invented But everyone would benefit from a talk with an attorney about their estate planning. That's why we do the free consults for estate planning. Not a lot of law firms do that. We really want to encourage, and part of the reason we do the radio show is we want you to. Know us, know our name, know who you're going to talk to before you schedule a consult.
I know a lot of people don't know. An attorney. And so when you're calling an attorney, you don't have any preconceived notion of that attorney and haven't met that attorney. And And that's one of the reasons me and Joe sit here and and talk every every weekend.
So, that when you have an issue, you've got someone you can call. You've heard me and Joe before. We're here, we're North Carolina attorneys. The law firm's been around for. 22 plus years at this point.
And we like to be a sounding board for you, and we hope you call us. when you when you need us. The estate planning, like I said, a lot of firms don't do a free estate planning consult. They might let you talk to a paralegal or they'll get some information from you and give you some general information. We will.
have a free Consult Um with you and give you our advice. And then let you know what it would cost what your attorney's fees would be for implementing that estate plan, if you agree with us. Um that's why we do free consults. We want to talk to as many people as we can. About estate planning and get people set up so that when they pass away, their families are in good shape.
You know, we talked to a lot of. fathers and mothers and grandparents who want their kids and their grandkids they want their assets, the wealth that they've spent their life accumulating. We want to see that get to the next generation. And not be lost to creditors and not to go to people or family members they don't want it to go to. And so we spend a lot of time doing that.
Now, the law firm does a lot of other things. There's multiple attorneys here and multiple offices. If you're in a car accident, we don't talk about it a lot on the program, although we've had some. Shows dedicated to personal injury when you're in a car accident or you're injured because of someone else's negligence, and our firm handles those.
So, if you get in a car accident, you can give us a call. That's another consult that we offer free. Like, we'll meet with you and let you know what your rights are, kind of give you our take on what's happened, you know. The firm handles traffic tickets. If you get pulled over, we handle civil litigation, handle a bunch of real estate closings.
A lot of people are refinancing right now. Interest rates are down a little bit from their highs. And so, if you bought a house in the past couple of years, a lot of people are going back to their lenders and refinancing, and usually need a closing attorney. Our firm does thousands. What do we tens of thousands of of of closings here?
That's right, tens of thousands. Yeah, I think last time we counted, it was over 75,000 closings. We're approaching hundreds of thousands, Josh. We should have some kind of counter that shoots off fireworks so that when we get to 100,000. I like that.
I like that a lot. You got some great, great ideas today. Canceling all these laws. Firework. Closing counter.
And that's kind of how we built the firm. We built the firm so that. Yeah, the average person when they have legal needs, they'd have somewhere to go and where they could continue to go. right there's some there's definitely some special practice areas Where you need an attorney where that's all they do, right? And those attorneys are out there where they, you know, but our firm is kind of focused on several different projects.
Practice areas that the average person Uh, may need help with, and so that's kind of we've got attorneys. Who focus on those different areas, and of course, we're in different offices across the state, and that's kind of what we're geared up to do, and so. You know, the radio show, we spend a lot of time talking about free estate planning consults with an attorney. And so I'm gonna start adding that caveat because there's some some places that advertise free whether like free initial phone call or they're they're careful to use language So that you don't think you're going to talk with an attorney. And that's not what we do at Whitaker and Hamer.
If you call us for your free estate planning consult, We're going to schedule you to talk to one of our estate planning attorneys, not a paralegal, although paralegals are awesome. We love paralegals. Shout out to all the paralegal listeners. We couldn't do it without our paralegals. And you're not getting general information.
We're going to look. At your assets, what you want to happen, and give you our advice. And then be very honest with you about what it would cost to do. what we recommend, what you want to do.
So, Morgan, I always like to put that out there when we're talking about the free consults.
Well, and again, it's an opportunity for you to kind of kick the tires, get to know Whitaker and Hamer, and also see exactly what an estate plan is going to entail. Grab one of the consults. You can do that right now, 919-772-7000. 919-772-7000. You can also visit the website, wh.lawyer.
Gentlemen, closing thoughts. Uh I'd love to find a bingo game after this. And, um,. go and and we can drink the rest of the day away. Break the law and have a good time, man.
That's where I'm. I'm only going to go play bingo. Remember, for-profit, alcohol served more than five hours at a time. That's how you can break every prong of that bingo game. It's not a real bingo game if it doesn't go five hours, one minute.
I can't do anything for five hours. I could barely watch a game for two and a half hours. I could sleep for five hours. Yeah, yeah. That sounds nice.
That's very believable, man. Yeah. Another edition of Judica County Radio is in the books. Your host, Josh Whitaker and Joe Hamer, managing partners, Whitaker and Hamer law firm, and of course, practicing attorneys here in our great state of North Carolina. They have offices almost on every street corner.
Raleigh, Garner, Cleveland, Clayton, Goldsboro, Fucuv Arena, Gastonia, and in Moorhead City. Again, for your convenience. Complimentary consult on estate planning. Just give us a call, 919-7727000. That's 919-7727000.
And visit the website, wh.lawyer, great resource for you, w.lawyer. Again, another edition of Judica County in the books. For Josh and Joe, I'm Morgan. See you on the radio next week. Judica County is hosted by attorneys licensed to practice law in North Carolina.
Some of the guests appearing on this podcast may be licensed North Carolina attorneys. Discussion on this podcast is meant to be general in nature, and in no way should the discussion be interpreted as legal advice. Legal advice can only be rendered once an attorney, licensed in the state in which you live, has the opportunity to discuss the facts of your case with you. The attorneys appearing on this podcast are speaking in generalities about the law in North Carolina and how these laws affect the average North Carolinian. If you have any questions about the content of this show, you can direct such inquiry to Joshua Whitaker at jmw at mwhlaw.lawyer.
