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The Unlikely Relationship Between Two of NYC's Finest

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September 12, 2023 3:01 am

The Unlikely Relationship Between Two of NYC's Finest

Our American Stories / Lee Habeeb

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September 12, 2023 3:01 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, 9/11 firefighter Niels Jorgensen and billionaire David Koch, and the tragedies that brought them together. 

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I could somewhat see on my drive the smoke and whatnot. And I'm flying over the horizontal bridge and my wife calls me frantically. Where are you? Where are you? And I said, I'm on the bridge. I'm going in. And she says, no, you're not.

Listen to what your dad, my dad would always tell me. If there's ever a recall, you follow it or you could end up dead and no one is looking for you. And for some unknown reason, there was no traffic. It was eerie and I'm flying and I'm going, but wait a minute.

I don't have my fire gear. What the hell am I going to do? She hung up the phone, screaming at me and my wife doesn't curse. She said, those effing buildings are going to go down and you'll effing die.

Go to your command where you're supposed to. And I heard my father in my ear and he's just, my father doesn't say a lot, but when he says something, it's profound. And I remember him always saying, kid, never be a freelancer. You follow your orders, you follow your training.

Something real bad goes down. And this was after the 93 bombing because I was at that. And we used to always talk and say, it's going to happen again. And he said, you follow your orders, go to your firehouse, get your gear and you get your further pending orders. I veered off the highway, went down into Brooklyn where I worked.

I checked in. I was the first one I called into command. And they said, you get 12 guys, grab a city bus and get over there. And guys came streaming in and were watching the TV. And just as we run out the street to get the city bus to take us, we see the tower go down, the first one.

And I believe the second tower hit was the first one to collapse. And I dropped to my knees and I started crying and praying. And the guys looked at me. I said, guys, now our truck from our house was gone. It was at the scene. So we were in the empty house and, you know, convening and deploying from there. And I said, guys, 114 is dead. That's our truck.

And they're like, looking at me, what are you talking about? I said, when I came in the door, I heard our boss, Dennis on the radio, 114 truck with 1084 is our code of on scene. We're at Albany and West.

Where do you need us? And the nickname of our truck is Tally Ho. And he said, Tally Ho respond into the command post, Western Albany for further orders. It was the last I heard from my Lieutenant. His rookie son, or as we call a probie, his probie son was assigned that day in another ladder company and he was killed. And that Lieutenant ended up saving our crew because as they were going into the building, he saw what he thought to be partial collapsing.

And he told the guys, turn around. This building's coming down behind us. And as they turn around and ran, they dove under a truck, the building came down. The guys, 40 feet, 50 feet behind them are under it and they're dead.

And they're in the pile. And my Lieutenant who unfortunately did lose his son saved our crew. Unbeknownst to us, as that was going on, we got into the bus and as we were coming over the Brooklyn bridge to help and we got into the city and started running toward it, the second building just came down. And I wasn't there in the building when it collapsed.

And I would never claim to be, but I made my best effort to get there. And the crew of us that got there were horrified because we knew that our on-shift platoon, our guys that we loved and worked with were probably underneath that pile. And by the grace of God, that Lieutenant saved that shift of five guys plus himself. But unfortunately, the other ladder company, 105, which I had actually was my first command in the city where my Lieutenant's son was working, his son was killed. And the strange part about it was the senior man, the older firefighter working that day on that shift with his son was working with me on the day of 1993's bombing. And he was my senior man looking over. Sorry, he was looking over my shoulder and later on, hours later after the evening of the first bombing in 93, he looked around and he said, you know what, kid, he goes, these mutts didn't do it right, they blew it up in the middle, but if they did it in the corner by a column, they would have beat us today and the building would have dropped. And he said to me that the next time they come back, they'll do it right.

Don't kid yourself for a second. And that man, Hank Miller, he died. He died that day.

He almost prophesized it. And then just, and then we just, we regrouped and redeployed onto the main pile because there was, there was confirmed a couple people that were still alive and we were working on shuttling gear in and out and trying to just move debris and whatnot. And I was with an older guy and we branched off maybe a hundred yards to another section and we were just down in a hole underneath a bunch of steel and all you could hear was sand dropping every once in a while, like as if it was rolling down a hill and it was eerily quiet and then you would just hear some hissing and that was the gas lines that were ruptured. And he just said, kid, what do you hear? And I said, I hear the hissing, I hear the debris, it was just, everything was pulverized into gray sand. And he said, no, I know that, but what else do you hear? And I stopped for a second and I said, I don't hear anything.

And I stopped for a second and I said, I don't hear anything. He said, that's right. He says, because everyone's dead, we're wasting our time. He goes, no one's coming out of this kid. They're all gone. He goes, look at the concrete, look at the steel, what happened to it?

You think bodies are going to survive through that? And he was right. He was right. Everybody was pulverized and everybody was just crushed and it was, it was just horrible. And we stayed till about four o'clock that following morning. And we couldn't breathe. We couldn't, we just, we were caked and filled with dust in our throats and our eyes.

Couldn't see at points in time. And the Lieutenant just decided, he says, guys, we need to regroup. Got to try to get back to our firehouse, clean up, get some supplies and get right back here in the morning. So we hopped on a city bus and we walked down to the battery tunnel. And he told us there'd be buses, hopefully to get us back over to Brooklyn. And we returned to Brooklyn and the guy couldn't, for some reason, I can't remember why he couldn't go up the main street where we were on.

So he dropped us off. So we went, we walked up the Hill and we were all having a hard time breathing. And it felt like we swallowed a box full of razor bleeds. And I was really having trouble walking up the Hill. And I, it was, it was the worst sore throat you've ever had.

But then down from your roof of your mouth to the insides of your stomach. And I remember one of the older guys with us, he said, you know what guys we're all dead. And I said, no, no, Dan, we made it.

And he goes, no, you don't understand. He goes, this crap we breathed in, we're all dead men. And out of the 20 guys that were there that day from our crew, I think, I think eight of us have cancer and some, a few of the guys I've been blessed with only one, but a few of the guys have had three different cancers. And by the grace of God, those particular guys are alive.

One of my other dear friends came down with three different cancers and he's been dead now for almost two years. And that guy was right. He wasn't right about all of us, but there's a lot of us that, that died after the fact from those hours, the first day, second day, 50th day, 80th day of being down there. And we went back to the firehouse and we cleaned off and we just got the caked dust out of our, trying out of our throats, out of our eyes. We got some fresh clothes, but the dirty toxic clothes that we were wearing, we didn't throw them out. We threw them in the wash. We threw them in the firehouse laundry.

We threw them in our locker where they sat for a couple of weeks until we got a chance to do laundry. And then, you know, you'd have your gear in the subsequent days and your fire gear was filthy and caked with this toxic crap. And it's in the back of your car. And then if you're lucky enough to get a day off or half a day off, you try to clean the car out. And then you tore your baby seat in the back, not knowing that a couple of years later, they're going to say, Oh, this stuff was really, really bad and toxic.

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Long story short, they found it out. They diagnosed the leukemia. The way they explained it to me was it's different than an organ cancer.

It's not like a stage 1, 2, 3, or 4 of, you know, colon or liver. Leukemia is like a car driving on a road, as they explained. You get to a cliff, the wheels go off, you're dead. I said, all right, doc, where am I?

He goes, well, your front wheels are off the cliff. You probably had about another three or four days to live. We're going to try to intervene with the spleen, get all the swelling down.

They drilled into my hip. They found out exactly what cancer it was. And it's the rarest leukemia you can have. There's 49 different ones. There's only 500 cases in all of North America a year. And I was the seventh 9-11 rescuer in six months to come down with it. And a couple of the guys had already died.
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