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Send them to ouramericanstories.com. The Nostalgia Awakens is an exhibit featuring every action figure toy made by Kenner Toys from 1978 to 1985 based on the original three Star Wars movies. The Star Wars toys on display are from Jared Roll, enthusiast and museum curator from Wisconsin. He and his brother Kevin owned many of the toys when they were children. As an adult, Jared collected the rest of the original toys.
In part one of this two-part story, we learn that Star Wars was released in May of 1977 to just 32 theaters nationwide and how George Lucas' movie revolutionized movie merchandising, licensing, and even how kids play. Here's Jared Roll with the rest of the story. One thing that toys allowed us to do is that we could carry on that story. We could relive that story. We could be in control of that story that we saw on the big screen that one time.
I mean, this is before the days of VHS, this is before the days. Of any way to replay this. I didn't have any means of replaying this movie. If you wanted to see Star Wars multiple times, you had to go to the theater, and being a five-year-old kid, I didn't have any power over that. But the other thing to consider too is that it was only at my theater for two weeks.
And then it was gone. And then it came back in 1978. During that summer it was back again for two weeks.
So we needed ways to stay connected to Star Wars when we weren't seeing the movies. And how did we do that?
Well, the best way was with action figures, because now. I can take Luke and Ben and Walrus Man and I can recreate that scene in the cantina. You know, when Walrus Man tries to attack Luke and Ben steps in and cuts his arm off, I could do that. And then I could take Walrus Man and I could have him be some other guy, and he could have his own adventure. And that was the great thing about being a kid with action figures: it allowed you to have control over this little world.
And be your own storyteller. And that stuff was important because, again, it was our way of re-entering that world when the movie wasn't there. You know, as a kid, you really don't have a control over much of anything, but here I did. And that was uh that was a special thing. When Empire Strikes Back came out, Just how exciting that was, and the toys were there waiting for us.
That was the big difference now: is that when I came out of Empire Strikes Back, and believe me, I was. You know, I was just I yeah uh just lit up. with excitement, just charged coming out of there. And And thankfully, we were able to go to a store within a matter of a few weeks and pick out a few toys. And that was a very different.
experience them because Now the merchandising engine was churning out things, lots of things for Star Wars, because Kenner, they learned their lesson the first time they were prepared this time, and they had wonderful product for us. And that Christmas and the Christmas after that, we just kept on asking for Star Wars toys. Yeah. Uh, you know, granted, three years were between Star Wars and Empire, and then between Empire and Jedi, there were three years, and we kept engaged because you know, Kenner was smart. Every year, they would release another wave of figures, another vehicle, and in the longevity of this.
Of this uh This story of these movies, they had such an effect on us that we kept engaged. You know, kids like me and my friends, most kids were.
So that when Jedi came out we were just as excited. But then something happened. After Return of the Jedi came out, You know, again, wonderful toys there waiting for us and we got them. We either bought them with our money we saved or we got them at birthdays or Christmases. But something was beginning to change by the time Jedi left the theaters.
What was happening is that kids who grew up With the original Star Wars movie and went to see Empire, some of them were aging out. You know, they were hitting their young teens. And getting into toys isn't such a big thing for them anymore. Or if you were still in that toy age, you were Seeing other toys in the toy aisles that were competing for your parents' money or your meager savings that you had.
So, right next to the Return of the Jedi toys, you had He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, you had G.I. Joe, you know, the small G.I. Joe's, the real American Hero G.I. Joe's. You had transformers and gobots and thundercats, and it just doesn't stop.
You have all these toys, these action figure toys, competing. for your dollar. But the biggest thing that hurt Kenner Star Wars toys after Return of the Jedi is that George Lucas said I'm not making any more movies. I don't have any plans for that. And he didn't say never, but he didn't say he definitely made it clear that nothing anytime soon.
And when that happened, and the kids, we knew that as kids because we wanted to know, and once we realized there's no more Star Wars, then something kind of detaches from you. And for the reasons I said already, you kind of turn your attention to other things. And so Kenner tried desperately. to keep us coming back to the the Star Wars section. Again, you know, Kenner went from a small subsidiary of General Mills Foods.
To one of the largest toy manufacturers in the world because of Star Wars. They're not gonna give up easily on this brand. And in 1985, They decided, listen, okay, George doesn't have another movie lined up for us. Why don't we do something? where we Create A property that sounds like another Star Wars movie, even though it's not.
So they created a toy line called The Power of the Force. complete with its own logo. And so they have the Power of the Force toy line, the packaging looks different, but the characters that they were making, the action figures and the vehicles, they were all. From the first three movies. And there are some really neat figure choices in there, like Luke and Stormtrooper uniform.
Uh you can take off his helmet and see that it's looking what a neat figure that would have been to have as a kid, but But again, the problem it was just too late. Uh they these toys did not sell. And you've been listening to Jared Roll talk about his experience experiencing the Star Wars trilogy and all the merchandise and imagineering that went on thereafter. It allowed the kids to be their own storytellers, he said. As kids we didn't have much control of anything.
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And we continue with Our American Stories and with Part Two of this story from museum curator Jared Roll. Let's pick up where Jared left off. George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, decided to pull the plug. on the series after the first three. But the Kenner Toy Company decided to create a new line of Star Wars action figures and playsets.
Here again is Jared Roll. I recall a time So it was in 19, it was probably around 1985, could be even 86, stopping at a And walking past to the magazine aisle, and there is what we call a dump bin, and that's like a square-shaped. Table with low sides, and inside there's just stuff they're trying to clearance out. And this dump bin had Star Wars figures in it, Power of the Force figures.
So I remember stopping and picking one up and looking at it, and here was a Han Solo and Carbonite. Figure. Kind of cool idea. It was neat. It was like the Hanzolla figure, and you had a piece of carbonite, you can put them in the block.
And see him through it. I remember looking, I think, that's kind of neat, but eh, I don't know, whatever. And what struck me too is I remember this. Looking at the price tag, There were like three or four layers of price stickers on it. And the top one said 69 cents.
Cause they are just, you know, they're probably like 295. $250, $1.95, $0.69, just clearancing this stuff out. That figure today is worth thousands because kids like me looked at them and said, meh, and tossed them right back in there. And we went and bought a Thundercat instead. Or we went and just bought a magazine about music.
I don't know what we were into, but we weren't buying that stuff. And nobody did. And because of that, some of those toys, the Power of the Force Line, are the most coveted among collectors. And they are so cool to see because. It wasn't until I was an adult collector that I even knew they made a lot of the stuff that they made towards the end because it just didn't hit the shelves.
So Like a lot of kids at this point, you know, we move on either to other toys or stop getting toys, but My toys were very valuable to me. And so, even though I was in my teenage years, I did store my toys in actually one big old refrigerator box in the garage of my parents' house. and you know grew up you know went to college And it was shortly after graduating from high school I went to a record convention in Milwaukee. But One of the vendors at this record convention sold a newspaper, a trade newspaper, where you could buy and sell music. But they also sold one for buying and selling antiques.
and all of a sudden I look and here is the Millennium Falcon. And somebody's saying that they're selling them for $80.
So, like, wait a minute, you mean this stuff from my childhood now has value? I mean, it was an expensive toy. but it wasn't $80 and they're saying $80 and it's not even in the box.
So after a while, I'm hunched over this booth and I start kneeling, and then I sit on the floor and I'm looking through this. And the woman working at the booth, she's like, you can just take that home with you now. He seemed to be really attached to you. I'm like, oh, thanks.
So I took it home and I poured over inch by inch. And that got me thinking. I need to know. I need to go look at my toys from my childhood because if they have value, I could be rich. I think that was one of the ideas that went through my head.
That end, you just want to know: do I still have all these things?
So I go home to my parents' place.
So I was in my first year of college at the time, but I go home. And I dig They got this big box in the garage and I was a little sad because They weren't as white and pristine. as I had remembered them, but I still had a lot of them. But now I've got this new bug inside of me that wants them all. Like I want the things I never had as a kid.
How am I gonna do that?
Well this was 1992. And And there was, you know, before the internet for anything like that.
So I started typing up lists on a typewriter of the things I wanted, or handwriting notices, little flyers, and I hung them up in laundromats in my hometown. I hung them up. Um in the grocery stores when you first go in there's a little little community board there and There was a radio call-in show on our local polka music station called WTKM where you could call in, buy, sell, and swap. And I'm saying, hey, I'm looking for Star Wars toys. If you've got any, give me a call.
And in some ways, it works because what had happened is that at the same time this is happening. Moms all over the United States are getting rid of their kids' toys. Kids from my generation, we're going off to college. Mom's cleaning out the house. And they're like, they're not going to want these toys anymore.
And so they're calling me and they're saying, yeah, I've got my kid at a lot of this stuff. You know, he's moved away or whatever. Come and take a look at it.
So I'd go to their house and on their. Dining room table, there would be a selection of toys, like a whole mix. I always remember I'd go there. I'd just ask for Star Wars stuff, but there'd be some G.I. Joe's, some, you know, some adventure people, just a whole mix of things.
And you know, the mom didn't know, she just called them all Star War toys. And I'd say, okay, I'll just take this one and this one. And she's like, oh, no, no, no, you're gonna buy everything. It's all or nothing. I'm like, okay, so I just bought it all up.
I brought it home. But it wasn't until George Lucas announced in 1993, I believe it was. He said, I have plans. to make more Star Wars movies. And when he said that, all of a sudden, people from my generation are like, whoa, Star Wars, I love Star Wars.
Can you believe that there's actually more movies? And then shortly after that announcement, There was an announcement, a follow-up announcement, saying that he was going to re-release the original trilogy, Special Editions. That came out in 97.
So in 93, 94, you're starting to hear rumblings of Star Wars coming back. And that's kind of waking things up in us to like, oh, this is exciting. Around that same time, Kenner Toys Is bought by Hasbro Toys.
Now, Hasbro, they're big. They're one of the big two toy companies. They always have been. They're known best for G.I. Joe, I guess.
Hasbro is huge and they buy Kenner. And in 1995, they do something that we never thought would happen. And that is, they started creating Star Wars action figure toys again.
So First time in 10 years, Action figure toys are in the toy aisle. By the way, this is a new thing now. We're we're we're we're adults who collect toys And we've got a lot of purchasing power. And we're hungry for this stuff.
So up to that point. People like me now were buying vintage Star Wars toys, and the price started going up. I saw it right away. I'm like, oh man. But then now that we have new Star Wars product We're thinking two things.
One, this stuff is awesome. I want it. And two, this stuff is awesome. I want it, and I'm gonna buy two of them. Two of everything.
One to open and to enjoy. and one to store away because it's gonna be worth something big, just like my childhood toys.
Well We know that never happened, but at the time we we thought it was a good plan.
So we're buying up all this stuff. And I remember it was in 2001 and I'm sitting in my office in my apartment. and I get a package in the mail. Normally it's really exciting. I open it up and like, oh, I know what this is.
This is a 12-inch figure. Of 4LOM. He was a bounty hunter from Empire Strikes Back, and they made a nice 12-inch figure, very detailed. With the right weapons, and it's just a beautiful 12-inch figure that I remember holding in my hands. And thinking I don't feel anything about this.
Like, there's no. I don't know. I It was like I feel nothing for this anymore for this New stuff. And that really marked the end of uh of of toy collecting Especially the new stuff. And so I just packed everything up and put it aside.
And that was it for toy collecting for a while for me. And then Life continued to happen, you know. got married, have kids. And Yet, these toys just kind of follow me around, and my, you know, I wasn't collecting anymore, but they were taking up a lot of space. And then that brings me to 2015.
in the winter of 2015 when my colleague said Jared and she used to collect toys. Star Wars toys, what if he brought those out and he put them on display? In anticipation of uh this new movie that's coming out. And so, those of those new toys, I then started just dumping, just selling for whatever I could get. But it got it out of my house, and I was able to earn some money to buy some of those pieces that eventually went on display in.
what I call the nostalgia awakens, which is the exhibit that I created. of uh all the vintage Star Wars toys which Uh I still still love and and I'm grateful to be able to share it. with so many people of my generation who have those same feelings and memories of Star Wars and childhood as I do. And a special thanks to Greg Hengler for a great job producing that piece and getting the story. And also a special thanks to Jared Roll.
The story of Jared Roll and the story of Star Wars and how young people and older people across this country and around the world reacted to this American classic. Trilogy. Here on Our American Story. Liberty has never been just a word to we Americans. It has guided every one of our endeavors for the past 250 years.
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