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And we continue with our American stories. Richard Wirmbrand was a Romanian Jew who described himself as an atheist and a Marxist. He stole to get food as a child, became a very successful self-made businessman, married Sabina Oster, also a Jew, and lived a life of self-indulgence. Worn down by destructive behaviors, he contracted tuberculosis. While in recovery, Richard began reading the Bible.
And shortly after, in 1938, he and Sabina converted to Christianity. Richard became a Lutheran minister and began work to expand the church in Romania. In 1948, Wirmbrand publicly stated communism and Christianity were incompatible. As a result, he was imprisoned and tortured by the communist regime of Romania. After serving a total of 14 years, he and his wife Sabina, who had also been imprisoned, were ransomed for $10,000 and immigrated to America.
Wernbrandt wrote more than 18 books, the most widely known being Tortured for Christ. which was also made into a motion picture. He founded the international organization Voice of the Martyrs, which continues to aid Christians around the world who are persecuted for their faith. We'd like to thank the voice of martyrs for the story you are about to hear from Richard Warnbrand while he lived in the United States. The greatest crime which communists commit is not the murder of bodies.
The Communists have killed 60 million men in the Soviet Union alone. They've killed another 60 million. In that China, They have killed one million in little Cambodia. They have killed one million in communist Ethiopia. But there exists something worth than killing the bodies of men.
It is a rape of souls. The violence exercised against the minds of men. I speak Russian fluently. And a member may encounter with the first Russian lieutenant. I asked him, do you believe in God?
I expect it from him that he will answer yes or no. God has given to mankind the possibility of choice And we can say yes or no not only to our fellow men. We can say it even to God. But when I asked him, Do you believe in God? He lifted towards me eyes Without any understanding, And said We have no order to believe.
If we will have an order, we will believe. Tears setting down my cheek. I admit a man who has lost the most precious jewel which God has given to man to be a personality on your own. which can see Yes or no? To phrase.
or to any other thing. He had become a robot. A robot, a machine. He expected orders from Stalin and afterwards from Khrushchev and from Brezhnev. And in China from Mao Zitung.
what to believe and what to disbelieve. That is what the communists do. to the minds, to the souls of men.
Now we started The secret missionary work among the Soviet soldiers We preach to them the gospel. We distributed to them Christian literature, In Zin. I went to prison. My wife continued the work. She also has been caught.
Everyone is caught once. And now we were in prison. And uh they were very bad physical tortures. I will not describe them to you, first of all, because there are children here and very young girls and boys.
So I will not describe to you the physical tortures. But at a certain moment They started the brainwashing. The brainwashing consisted in this. That from five in the morning until ten in the evening, 17 hours a day You had to sit on a form. on which there was no place to lean, You were not allowed to rest a little bit your head.
On your hand? To close your eyes was considered a crime. You were under continual surveillance. You were not allowed to move. If it itched you, you could not scrape yourself.
If he teached, You had to say to the warden Please, would you allow me to scratch myself? And usually his answer would be no. Can you imagine what a torture it is when it teaches? And you are not allowed to scratch yourself. Just try.
Put it right. Sit in a comfortable chair. Put a watch before you. And see, half an hour I will keep my hands behind my back, whatever happens. It will begin to each Don't scratch yourself.
You will see you will not be able to think about anything in the world any more. Then just about the zitching. You were not allowed to scratch yourself. If your nose ran And you wished to wipe your nose, you could not do it. First of all, we had no handkerchief.
We wiped our nose like this.
Well, but uh you had to have the permission. of the warden to wipe your nose. And uh you could not move. Seventeen hours a day you had to sit. And you had to hurt You had to hear uninterruptedly Communism is good.
Communism is good. Communism is good. Communism is good. Communism is good. Communism is good.
Communism is good. Communism is good. Are you bored already? I have said it half a minute. They said it.
during hours These Weeks. Months Yes. We had to hear uninterruptedly Communism is good. Communism is good. Communism is good.
Communism is good. Communism is good. Christianity is dead, Christianity is dead, Christianity is dead, Christianity is dead, give up, give up, give up, give up, give up, give up. And when at 10 o'clock in the night we were allowed to go to bed. In our nightmares, We continue to hear.
Christianity is dead, Christianity is dead, Christianity is dead. Give up, give up, give up. This was the worst torture to which Christians We have submitted in communist countries. Happily. Christ is God.
and knows everything beforehand. And he has prepared a remedy against Brainwashing. It is art worship. I thought you were right. Will we be here?
In these prison cells. Yeah. continually hearing this devilish voice. At a certain moment, I had not seen my wife. Almost thirteen years.
I did not know if she is alive. She had been announced officially that I've hanged myself in prison. And men who posed as former prisoners said. We have been released. We have attended his burial.
He has hanged himself in prison. That is what she knew. And they knew nothing about her. I didn't know any more if I have children or if I don't have them. At a certain moment the Communists were very nice.
and give us postcards. Here everyone write to your family. That was that day They may come and bring you some parcels with food and clothing and so on. We were very happy. Everyone wrote.
And you're listening to Richard Wormbrand's story A story he told for his country that adopted him. After 14 years in a communist prison, when we continue more of this remarkable testimony. Here on Our American Stories. This July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party, hosted by America 250. America's Block Party is a camp-miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
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Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well. Give us examples. I know.
They do. get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane.
She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings, and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius.
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So far, we've heard about the horrific treatment Richard Wormbrand experienced from his Romanian Communist Guards. Let's pick up where we last left off with Richard. Talking about the promise made to all the prisoners. that their family members would be coming to visit them. Was that the They cut our hair, they shaved our s uh, they arranged us somehow so that we should look nicer.
for this meeting with our uh mothers or wives. And we waited the whole day Until late in the night, Nobody came. And the next day is the brainwashing. Nobody loves you any more. Nobody loves you anymore.
Nobody loves you anymore. Nobody loves you anymore. Your wives have forsaken you. Your children have become communists. We did not know that they have never sent these postcards.
Everything has been a deceit. But in the half dark of the cell, hearing continually Nobody loves you anymore. Nobody loves you anymore. Nobody loves you anymore. We believed it.
That we are alone. The whole outer world It's for buttons. And all those who have passed through prisons. Through communist prisons. They've kept a hunger after love.
For me now, it is not enough to know that brethren and sisters in Christ love me. They have to tell me that they love me, and they have to hug me and to embrace me and to make me very sure. Because during years we have heard, nobody loves you anymore. Nobody loves you anymore. And uh That made us to repeat in the same written.
In which they said Christianity is dead. Christianity is dead. Christianity is dead. We repeated in soft voice Christ also has been there. Christ also has been there.
Christ also has been there. Christ also has been there. Jesus has given us a remedy against Brainwashing. It is hard washing. He has said, Blessed are the pure in heart.
Because they will see Not the grey walls of the prison cell. They will not see the heaven bars They will not see the chains at their hands and at their feet. They will not see the rubber trenches and the implements of tortures of the communists. They will not see the torturers. Blessed are the pure in heart, because they will see God.
And looking at him, you forget the outward circumstances. And we could resist Brainwashing. Afterwards, I was released from communist prisons. I came to America.
Now I have not come to tell you what you would like to hear. I have come to tell you what is my message from God. I have come to tell you also what you will not like at all. I came to America a nation which is terribly brainwashed. America is terribly benevolent.
And basically It is the same technique. which the devil uses under the communists. There exists a conspiracy In America Not to allow you to think. An American is not allowed to think. As we were not allowed to think, communism is good, communism is good, communism is good.
So Americans are not allowed to think. The first thing when an American awakes from sleep, has not rubbed his eyes yet. He switches on the television and the radio and it begins tara tum tum tump tara tum tum tum tara tum tum tump. The brainwasher tells you a few things. When you drive in the car.
It's absolutely forbidden to think. You have entered the Zakar? You have switched on? The radio, tara pump pump pump, tara pump pump pump tara pump pump pump until you arrive to your job. In your office, in your factory, where you work.
Tell the pump pump pump, tela pump pump pump, tela pump pump pump The wife is in the kitchen. She's not allowed to sing. Terra pump pump pump terra pump pump terra pump pump bum and we fall asleep. near this television set And there's this tarap pump pump pump tara pump pump pump. and it continues in our nightmares True.
There exists this continual noise in which we are brainwashed here with our consent. And under communism, without our consent, The souls are raped. Our minds are uh Submitted. to the violence of communism. You will never imagine.
Americans can't realize The freedom which they have. Not only do you have the freedom to vote. We have the freedom to speak. To write, to think. You have the freedom to choose what to eat.
You have the freedom how to close yourself. You have the freedom whom to marry. We don't have this meet freedom. My boy had a girlfriend. And she was called to the secret police.
and was told we have seen that you are dated by Michael Bernbrand, he is a counter-revolutionist.
So you will not be dated by him anymore. We found for you another boy, Steve. You will not kiss Michael. You will kiss Steve. The secret police decides whom a girl will kiss.
But You have the freedom to go And to wash yourself and to take a bath. I have not washed myself three years when I was in prison. And you have the great freedom to go to the toilet. If you would know What if freedoms is this? And what a terrible torture it was in prison.
They did not take you. That was all. I heard during the night. Female prisoner screaming. begging the wardens Take me to the toilet, take me to the toilet.
And he said, wait until tomorrow morning. And for nothing in the world They would take you. And one insisted Surganov. They beat him to death. because he wished to go to the toilet Four hundred seventy-five.
have been killed. Only in this one psychiatric Asylum. We were very hungry in prison. We had times when we had one slice of bread a week. A week.
We had soup of dirty potato peels, cabbage with unwashed intestines. We were terribly hungry. We were doped with drugs which should destroy our minds. And because of this, we forgot more and more. We forgot our whole theology, if we forgot the Bible.
I forgot also our father.
Now the communists have also published an our father. They teach their youth to pray. And now may God forgive me, but I have to quote from you to you. What prayers they teach their youth? And you've been listening to Richard Wirmbrand's story for America after 14 years in a communist prison.
And just as Solzhenitsyn had done when he came to America and gave his infamous speech at Harvard. He was tough on communism. But he was also tough on consumerism. and how that itself could be a surrender. to the world of the advertising market and away from individuality.
When he said that he was forced to repeat, nobody loves you anymore, nobody loves you anymore, what a dirty, ugly trick. the Communists played on these people they imprisoned. It just doesn't get lower. than faking the end of love of your family. And then of course following up with the end of love and the death of God himself.
When we come back, more of Richard Wormbrand's story. His testimony here on our American stories. Um This July 4th, come celebrate at America's Block Party, hosted by America 250. America's Block Party is a can't-miss 4th of July concert happening at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. Experience music performances from major artists, patriotic tributes, and the kickoff to Giving Forth, helping to make July 4th the largest day of giving in American history.
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was so effective, but the Communists weren't finished. Here again is Richard Warmbrand.
Now the communists have also published an our father. They teach their youth to pray. And now may God forgive me, but I have to quote from you to you. What prayers they teach their youth? Our father Cursed be your name.
May your kingdom be destroyed. May your will not be done Anywhere, not even in hell. Give us this day our daily bread. which you have stolen from us. And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive yours.
And don't lead us into temptation. But deliver us from the evils of capitalism. But seeing that we are poor in spirit and weak, and incapable to help anybody Down with you for all eternity. Amen.
Now we teach our children Thou art father. which we have received from Jesus. In Russia and the communist countries, Periods. who love their children as much as we love them. are simply Driven to madness.
When the child comes home from school, And he begins to say, what does a child know? He says what he has been taught in school. And he knows that if he does not say it exactly like this, he will get a bad mark. And he will remain another year in that class and he will never arrive to high school or to college. What a terrible torture.
How would you feel if your children would say such prayer? Christians have been compelled day after day. to eat their experiment. And to drink urine. It gave a special kind of madness during the night.
These men would bang on the door of the cell. shouting, give us more urine, give us more urine. On a Sunday morning A Catholic priest, a friend of mine, was given in one hand a plate with excrements, In the other, a cup with urine. And he was compelled, he was half mad because of tortures. He did not know any more what he does.
He was compelled to say the Holy Mass over z's element. He said the holy words of Jesus. Take and eat. This is my body. Take and drink.
This is my blood. Over these elements. And he did it. And years of prison have passed. I have made 14 years of prison, which is not much.
May I tell you how he endured all these things? which have happened and continue to happen. It is written so beautifully in Romans 12. It is written there. Rejoice with those who rejoice.
If I don't have a joy. But there are millions who have a joy. And I can rejoice with those who rejoice. Every Sunday, I rejoiced with all those who were in church on Sunday. I was not in church 14 years.
We are in a subterranean prison. We don't see the sun. But the sun exists and so many are on the beach now and turn themselves and swim and surf. I can rejoice with every one of them. We don't have what to eat.
But others eat such good things. I don't have a church. They have. I don't have my wife, I don't have my children, but there are so many who have. A wife and have healthy children.
And I must not always brood about my little tragedy. The self is not so important. I am one of billions of men. Moses one self has a toothache. This one self Here's some Difficulties, some drama, but there are millions who don't have these dramas, and I must not be selfish.
I must deny the self. and rejoiced together with all those who rejoiced. And I wish to finish by telling you Just one thing more. The first years We were kept everyone alone in a cell. Thirty feet beneath the earth, we never saw sun, moon, snow, flowers, stars.
Grass. Threes. Universal. We never saw a man. Except the torturers.
We had no book. We had nothing. We sit Engaged to the grey walls. That was all. We never heard the noise.
The guards had felt sold shoes and you did not hear the reproach. But then I wish to take Holy Communion.
Now, how in the world should you take Holy Communion? Having just nothing. Nothing. We did not. And God, who is always good.
God reminded me in that moment Do you know out of which Out of what? Heaven and earth have been made. They have been made out of nothing. If God would have willed To me Evil. Heaven and earth.
Out of gold! Out of diamonds! He would not have succeeded. Try to make out of gold a butterfly which should fly. It can't go.
But out of nothing He could make.
So the most valuable material in the world is nothing. Out of nothing. The world is made. He said, in the Bible it is written in the book of Job. This big globe, the Earth.
It thanks God and the earth. Upon nothing. What a powerful rope. No material. would have had the resistance to keep suspended such a big globe.
Only nothing can. And then in the Bible it is written. that in the first century there was a church in Corinth And there they quarreled. The Christians quarreled. And some said there exists no bigger preacher than Paul.
And the other said, go away, what? You're poor. He said nothing at all. Peter is the right preacher. And the others said, no, Apollo is the right preacher, and they quarreled.
And Paul writes to them, Why do you call? Port is nothing. Peter is nothing. Apollo is nothing.
Well, so to be a nothing is very is a very great thing. If somebody is a very, very good preacher. then you can compare him with Billy Graham. With all robots, you can say that is another billigram. If he's a great preacher.
But if somebody is a nothing, You have compared him with Saint Paul and with Saint Peter, because St. Paul and Saint Peter have been nothing, Christ everything. and wishing to take Holy Communion, And they had for Holy Communion nothing.
So I took in my hands nothing. I thanked God for the nothing. I broke nothing. And I said TIGS is nothing. Is this nothing?
This nothing is my body. Which is broken for you. And then it took another nothing. And I blessed it. I'm thanked for it.
And I said, Take and drink from this nothing. This nothing is my blood. The blood of the New Testament. which has been shaped for you. for the forgiveness of sins.
And we took communion with nothing. That is the message which I have to bring you. I have not come to agitate against communism here. have something better to do. to light a candle is better than to curse darkness.
And to me, a radiant life. A spiritful life. Start is the house of every one of us. in our churches. and in this beautiful land of America, which God may keep free from the evils of communism.
May God bless every one of you. Honey. And you are listening to Richard Wormbrand. And my goodness, what a life story After serving a total of 14 years, he and his wife Sabina, who had also been imprisoned, in a Romanian torture house and let's make it Clear. This was torture.
and torture and more torture and brainwashing. They were ransomed for ten thousand dollars. and emigrated to America and brought their message here. Richard Rombrand's story. Here.
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