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When Abraham Lincoln was put into his opulent 117-foot-tall tomb, He was laid to rest. but certainly not in peace. For you to tell the story of Abraham Lincoln's turbulent post-mortem experience. is Lois Picone. Author of The President is dead.
Take it away, Lewis. Inside of the tomb. There is a sarcophagus, and the coffin was placed inside of that sarcophagus. It's about a 500-pound coffin. The tomb is guarded by an iron fence with a lock.
And that's it. That lock and that iron gate was all that protected Abraham Lincoln. In 1876, there was an attempt to steal Abraham Lincoln's body. A small-time gang in Illinois and Chicago was led by a guy named Big Jim Canali. And Cadali had fallen on hard times when his ace counterfeiter, Benjamin Boyd, had been arrested in prison.
So his gang was losing lots of money because they couldn't print their own. This was a time when counterfeiting was a huge problem. And actually, the Secret Service that was formed under Abraham Lincoln. Wasn't formed to protect the president. It was formed to combat counterfeits.
It was such a massive problem.
So Canali was on hard times, and he was sitting in this rundown bar. called the Hub in Chicago.
Now, coincidentally, this was also a bar that Canali owned or co-owned.
So. He spent a lot of time here at the hub, and he came up with this idea to steal Abraham Lincoln's body. And he was gonna steal the body, bring it to the sand dunes in Indiana. Bury it in the sand and hold it ransom for the release of Benjamin Boyd. and $200,000 to boot.
Interestingly, one of the few decorations. in the hub was a bust of Abraham Lincoln.
So I like to think of Canelli sitting there at the bar trying to figure out How do we bust Benjamin Boyd out of prison and looking up at Abraham Lincoln's bust and getting the idea? Hey. Why don't we steal his body?
Now, this sounds like a harebrain scheme. It sounds like a Like some sort of ridiculous scheme that would have no chance of succeeding. But again, Lincoln's body was only guarded by this iron gate with a padlock. Anyone with a sledgehammer can break this lock.
So he recruited a gang of five people to actually pull this off. And Canali wasn't on the scene. He'd kind of kept his hands clean. They also came up with the date of doing this on election night of 1876. This was when Rutherford B.
Hayes was facing off against Samuel Tilden. And they assumed that the nation would be distracted. They would be more focused on the election, not worried about Abraham Lincoln's tomb. It might give them more cover and give them more time to get away. It should also be noted that stealing a body wasn't as unusual as it sounds today, and grave robbing was not only relatively common compared to today, but it was also relatively big business.
because grave robbers would then sell the cadavers To hospitals and medical facilities, which would then use them for experiments. And these medical facilities didn't really ask many questions of where the bodies came from.
Now that wasn't Canali's plan to sell the body. But just two years after this attempted grave robbing attempt, this attempted grave robbing, just two years after. The body of another president's father was stolen, and that was Benjamin Harrison. His remains were stolen in 1878, and luckily they were found before they were carved up by a medical facility.
So that's like another weird story, but that just goes to show. Ow. This was possible.
So, Canalie recruits. a gang of five people. to steal Abraham Lincoln's body. Little did he know that two of those five people We're also paid informants. for the Secret Service.
They were getting $5 a day from the Secret Service to inform on criminals like Big Jim Cannelly.
So Once they got recruited They turned to the Secret Service and they told them about this plot.
So, the Secret Service was waiting inside one of the chambers in the memorial tomb. On November 7th, 1876, The gang easily sawed off the lock and entered the tomb. they just as easily took the lid off of the sarcophagus. But then they discovered it wasn't that easy to remove a 500-pound lead-lined coffin.
So it took them a while. And they managed to pull it out about 15 inches.
Now, the Secret Service is hiding in another room in the tomb, just waiting for that ideal moment to catch these criminals red-handed. But before that ideal moment came, One of the Secret Service agents accidentally fired off his gun. Hearing this bullet, the criminals ran. But with one of the informants' help, they pretty easily tracked down the criminals three days later, and they were arrested.
Now at the time Stealing a body wasn't a crime.
So they couldn't charge them with stealing a body. Instead, They charge the criminals with attempting to steal a $75 casket. Big Jim Canale was never charged with the scheme, but instead was arrested for another crime and ended up going to jail. But the criminals who were actually attempting to steal the coffin, they each got a year in the Illinois State Penitentiary. And what a story you've been listening to.
This is just one of those harebrained schemes. that actually could have worked. If the Secret Service hadn't infiltrated his little gang of five, Little did Big Jim Canale know. that two of his guys were CIs, confidential informants. For the then nascent and new Secret Service, which job primarily wasn't to guard the presidents of our country, but to guard our currency and to stop counterfeiting, which was out of control at the time.
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When we last left off, the Secret Service had foiled an attempt to steal Lincoln's body and bury it for ransom in the sand dunes of Indiana. After this, security enhancements to the tomb were needed and a group of men took it upon themselves to provide just such measures. Let's return to the story. Here again is Louis Picone.
So Just imagine the horror. of Mary Todd Lincoln and Robert Todd Lincoln. When they discovered how close this gang came to stealing Abraham Lincoln's body. Because if it wasn't for these two gang members that were also moonlighting for the Secret Service, there was a real good chance that they would have gotten away with this plot. It was so easy to break in there and to remove the sarcophagus.
So, Robert Todd Lincoln, really representing the family, was adamant. that the body needed to be better protected. But they didn't know what to do. Yeah. There was no easy way to make the coffin more secure.
So the caretakers at the Oak Ridge Cemetery came up with a plan. Hmm. And they decided to gather a group of men, swear them to secrecy, and secretly remove the coffin from the sarcophagus and hide it. In the basement. of the Lincoln Memorial Tomb.
This was down in the basement. There was no ventilation. It was damp. It stunk down there. And in the basement, it was just ground.
It wasn't even over concrete. This is now over ground.
So they dug a hole into the ground and attempted to bury the coffin. They knew it wasn't secure, but they figured their advantage was that nobody knew that the grave was there. Everybody thought the coffin was still inside of the sarcophagus.
So they knew that burying the coffin in the basement under the ground wasn't secure. But their advantage was that nobody knew it was there.
So, as long as it was a secret, they felt that Lincoln's. Coffin was safe. First time they dug a hole. Water started to steepen.
So they found another spot. And instead of burying the coffin, They hid the coffin, covered beneath plywood.
Now, nobody really went into the basement, except for the caretakers and this small group of. self-proclaimed guardians, they felt that it was safe down there. And it was. for about Another year or so. The next year, in eighteen seventy-seven, there was.
two bronze sculpture that were placed by the entrance of the tomb. and construction workers were at the site and they needed access to the basement.
So the caretakers were forced to bring these construction workers in on their secret.
So they let them know, all right, we'll let you go down to the basement, but that's where Lincoln's coffin is hidden. But you can't tell anyone about this. The construction workers said, Yeah, we won't tell anyone about it. And Very quickly, all Springfield was buzzing about this rumor. That Abraham Lincoln isn't in that sarcophagus.
He's in the basement.
Now, the caretakers dismissed it as just an outlandish conspiracy theory, which it was outlandish, but it wasn't a theory, it was true. For another year, the coffin remained hidden in the basement. Still, the public was unaware. They kind of dismissed this wild rumor. The next year, 1878, about two years after the attempted grave robbing.
There was another shallow grave that was dug in the corner of the basement. They found an area where the water table wasn't an issue. and again they buried themselves. By this point, this group had now christened themselves the Lincoln Guard of Honor. And it was a public group.
So, people knew about the Lincoln Guard of Honor, but they thought that they were just caring and guarding the tomb. They didn't know that they were actually hiding the body of Abraham Lincoln.
So now four years later, Mary Todd Lincoln dies. And Robert is just as concerned about Mary Todd Lincoln's body.
So there's a funeral at the tomb. She is placed inside of a crypt, but shortly after the funeral, The crypt is open. and her coffin is removed down to the basement as well. For five years, Mary Todd Lincoln and Abraham Lincoln. were buried in the basement.
in a very shallow grave. Until 1887. This is when finally there was a more Secure attempt. To secure the coffins of Mary Todd and Abraham Lincoln. Eleven years, Abraham Lincoln's remains were kept in the basement.
They were disinterred. They were placed beneath 18 inches of cement. And secured in what was believed to be their final resting places. Under these 18 inches of cement, they are now secure, and there will be no need to worry about grave robbers or anyone moving the coffin again.
Now, once again, when they did this final move and they secured the coffins of Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd Lincoln beneath this cement layer, The coffins were opened. It was written. The body was found to be in a remarkable state of preservation and easily recognizable. But it was also written that Abraham Lincoln's face was more of a bronze color. For 13 years, Abraham Lincoln's body was undisturbed.
Until it was determined that the Lincoln Memorial Tomb was sinking, and they needed to reconstruct the entire thing.
So once again, stonemasons were called, and they needed to chip into those 18 inches of cement to get to the coffins to move that again.
Now it's tough to keep up with how many times that Lincoln's coffin was actually moved. Estimates range between a dozen times or up to 17 or 18 times. Many of those times, the coffin was opened. and the morbidly curious took a look at Abraham Lincoln's features. But they closed the coffin for one final time, September 26, 1901.
When you go there today, you can walk inside. You can walk through the memorial tomb. You can see the crypts that contain the remains of Mary. of Abraham Lincoln's children, Eddie, who died before He was president. Willie, who died in the White House, and Tad, who died at the age of eighteen.
And then Robert Todd Lincoln lived a full life. He's not buried at the crypt. He's buried in Arlington Cemetery, though, because he was later Secretary of War under James Garfield. And a terrific job by the production, editing, and storytelling by our own Monty Montgomery. A special thanks to Louis Pacone, his book, The President is Dead.
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We have the last days of Lincoln's life, the short happy life. of Abraham Lincoln. We have Robert Todd Lincoln's story. We have Lincoln on the Verge, his 13-day trip. from Springfield to Washington, DC to become president, and now he avoided multiple assassination plots.
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