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Camilo Venegas was born in Southern California in 1946. The son of Mexican immigrants who'd fled Mexico during the Mexican Revolution when bandits were overthrowing the old order. and that included Catholics. like Camillo's father manual. Camillo and his brother spent summers picking produce to raise money for Catholic school tuition and uniforms.
Shortly after he graduated high school, Camillo was drafted to serve in the U.S. Army in 1966 and was stationed in Vietnam for one tour. Here is Camilo Venegas. with his recollections of Vietnam. In 1966, I got drafted.
I was sent first to um El Paso, Fort Bliss. And then three days later, They took us up north to Kansas and I was in Kansas at Fort Riley, Kansas. When we arrived at Fort Rodney, Kansas, we were all told, You're going to Vietnam. You will hear rumors, but Don't believe you're going to Vietnam. We need men in Vietnam and you're going.
Nine months later, I was in Vietnam. I left California. On New Year's Day, of 1960 Six. Um On a Fruit carrier. We arrived by ship in Vietnam.
in 67. We were taken to a place called Beirkat. There was nothing there. It was in the middle of the jungle. They did have a few bunkers, and the older guys that had been to Vietnam maybe a month or two prior to us, they were guarding us the first night.
We all slipped on the ground. I remember that when everything finally settled down, it was probably about twelve o'clock at night. And it was quiet. and in the distance you could hear battles going on. And then it hit us.
We were in a war. This is it. and you could hear guys crying. It was just, you know, what was going to happen. I was 19 years old.
It was scary. No one in my whole company had ever seen any action at all. There is green as we were. Eventually, we started going out into the jungle. First time we went out in the jungle, we were so green Oh, we ran out of water.
Well, we were so lost, they couldn't find us. We went a day with no water in the jungle. The second day, they finally found us and they gave us water. That's how green we were. Also being that grain.
In the first few months of Vietnam, The Viet Cong took heavy toll on us. We lost a lot of guys because we didn't know what we were doing. They'd been fighting the French before us. They'd been fighting for a hundred years.
So they knew everything. And it was their backyard. We took heavy casualties. Everybody had guard duty at night. And the problem was a lot of guys would fall asleep.
Yeah, yeah. a um claymore mines. They have little legs on them. and a cord run from. and you have a squeeze.
You squeeze it twice on the third one, it'll blow up.
Well When we first got there, we were so green that the VC in the middle of the night would sneak up and turn them around to face us. Yeah, and we didn't know it. until a couple guys got killed.
So in the middle of night you'd have to sneak out there and make sure they weren't turned around. After about four months, then we were good. We were good to go. The award was really difficult because, like I said, we had nobody. who had any experience In fact, some of us after six months had more experience than sergeants.
And the lieutenants. I remember a few times we went out to go set up ambushes, and we had to teach them how to do it because they didn't know how to do it. That's why we took such a beating. I was in um See company 2nd of the 47th Infantry. I was a team leader for the weapon squad.
My job was to lead my team on ambushes at night. We would go and sit up in the middle of the night. We'd leave 10 o'clock at night. than walk in the jungle. The Viet Cong they also had.
Ambush is set up. We were upset because they were having us go to this village. because there was supposed to be heavy V C there and observe it. But we would leave at the same time every day. And we t kept telling the sergeants and stuff, that ain't right.
They're going to time us. And unfortunately, when I had just got back from the patrol. Yeah, we're Cleaning our weapons stuff out in the jungle, and a squad got hit, and there were 11 guys. We went out to get them. When we got there, They were really tore up.
I'd never seen human bodies like that. It stunned me. I just couldn't believe that these guys and I, we crossed paths. We were coming in, they were going out. And now they're dead.
And it was shocking. And that's when it really hit me that Man, I'm in war. And there's no rules. Being a squad leader. They asked me if I wanted to be a point man.
And I said, sure, because one of my best friends, who was from Florida, who had the point man. His dad, for a living, tracked animals. He was a guide for hunters.
So the kid knew everything about tracking and stuff like that. Me and him being best friends, he taught me how to track. He was in the center, I was off to the right, and another guy was off to the left, and we were the three-point men leading people into the jungle. But the problem was the maps they gave us. By the time we got the map, The trail that they had was covered by jungle.
So now the trail would end in a Right in the middle of a jungle. We couldn't get through it. From then on it was the war. I saw a lot of combat. I think too much.
I saw a lot of my friends die. I had friends die in my arms. Uh I think because I had so many brothers. that I knew how to B round Males. Not of my friends, and other guys that I didn't consider friends, but not close friends.
I always was able to talk to them. And I think that kind of backfired on me. When they would get hit, They will call for me. And I would try to get them. And sometimes when I got there, They were done.
And they We're not happy about dying. When you're a kid, you see war, and someone dies, and he has some great line at the end of his life.
Well, it was nothing like that. It was bitterness. It was guys cussing. The filthiest word you could think of. They didn't want to die.
I'm only 19. And now I'm dying in this pit. It's a nasty, dirty jungle. And I'm dying here. and they were very bitter.
Some guys could talk They just want made a hold on to them. Yeah. When they passed on, then I had to crawl back to wherever I was at. And you're listening to Camilo Vinegas tell the real-life story of war. And we do this often here on the show.
It's one thing to watch it in a movie. It's another thing to hear it from a person who was there. When we come back. More of Camilo Venegas' story. And he's telling it for so many tens of thousands of families.
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The Vietnam War Here to continue his story. is Camilo Venegas. They offered me a sergeant spot. and I turned it down. The reason being is if you're a sergeant You have to pick the guys that go out into the jungle on night patrols and day patrols.
And when you pick them, sometimes they're not coming back and that sits on you. Because you're the one who sent them. We would see in the Stars and Stripes newspaper. that the country was against the war.
So We didn't see what was there worth fighting for. And then more than a few times. the Vietnamese army would go in. and it gets shot.
So they would send us And we would be going into the battle. and they'd be running out of it. And we'd go, well, what's this? It's their country and they're running out. We have to go into it?
But that was part of the game and we did it. We did it. That was it. Everybody just had to go for a year. Like me, I had uh 90 days left.
When I got out of Vietnam, still in the Army. If you would re-up for 30 days more, then they will let you come. Get out of the army two months early. But I told him now. Yeah.
Too many people had died around me and I didn't think that 30 days more fighting in the jungle is worth it. I'd rather come back to the States and be able to sleep with both eyes closed instead of one.
So I took the untold no. Most of my friends that went to Vietnam. went on chartered regular airplanes. Coming back. A lot of the guys, same thing.
They flew Delta American or whatever was flying out of there. with me and the group that I went with. They just put us in a military plane. I was still dressed in my jungle fatigues, everything. They brought me right out of the field.
Mud, everything dirty, all nine yards. Turn in with your weapon, get on the plane, and take off. All the guys in there weren't They weren't right. And they weren't right so bad that we didn't even have stewardess. And it was like they put all the Let's say PTSD got us together in one and they had MPs instead of them taking care of us.
Once you did all your paperwork and changed clothes, shower, do all that kind of stuff, they give you money and they tell you, okay, you got a month before you gotta come back and they give you your papers, where are you gonna go? For me, I was sent to Fort Carson, Colorado, for my last 90 days. When you get to San Francisco, guys are going wherever they're going. But you still see military guys all over the airport.
Well, I'm walking and two girls walked up to me and asked me, were you in Vietnam? And I said, yeah, I didn't think anything of it.
Well girl starts up Get spitting or my sir And I looked at her and she goes, I'm going to spit on you. You're a baby killer. And they said, where I just come from, you spit on me, I'm going to knock you out. I don't hit women, but if you spit on me, I will punch you.
So they left me alone. I went to go get on the airplane, the plane was full. I got lucky. One of the stewards' brother was in Vietnam.
So she allowed me to sit in the back with all the stewardess and fly home. And all the girls were very sympathetic towards me.
So finally, I got to LAX. We always had a thing when we flew, we would never call someone to come and pick us up until we had landed and got our baggage and all that.
So they wouldn't have to wait. You could just stand at the curb and they'd come by, pick you up and you take off.
So I call him and say, okay, I'm home. Come get me. while my brother Manuel, my brother Bob, and my brother Ronnie. Went in one car. My mother, my father, and my brother Joe went in another car.
I'm sitting outside in the airport on a bench and everybody comes looking for me. And I'm sitting on a bench and I see them get out of the cars. And I thought, I'm not going to say nothing to him. I don't know why. I just thought that I'm not going to say nothing to him.
So I sat on the bench and they walked by, went inside the airport, came back and forth. They must have walked by me about five times. My brother Bob goes, where is that sucker? And I told him, I'm right here. And he turned around and looked at me, and it was emotional.
My mother was in shock. What I look like. They told me in the car they were sorry that I went. And I double it. Not your fault.
I was not used to lights anymore. Because I lived in the dark. On the freeway coming home. Cars coming opposite of me. Remind me of Crazy around.
Coming at me.
Well, I got on the floor of the car. And my mother turned around to talk to me and I wasn't there. Get the chair. And she asked Joe, where's he at? He says he's on the floor.
I couldn't take the lights. I got home. All my aunts and uncles were there. They had thrown a party. welcoming home party for me.
I was home maybe about 10 minutes. My dad gave me one of the proudest things I'll ever remember. He allowed me to drink at his house. Uh And they all saluted me. We all had a shot at tequila.
I went back outside and they were all inside. And my father came out and asked me, why aren't you inside with the family? And I told him I'm scared to be around that many people. I said After a year, you learn never to be around a lot of people. Because if you're around a lot of people, that's what...
who they want to kill. Because you could kill a group of people instead of one or two. I said, and I'm scared to be in there.
So my father went in. My uncle Tony lived one street behind us and he had everybody go to their house. And I stood outside. Bob and Ronnie went to the liquor store and came back with a case of beer and we sat outside in the backyard. And the first three nights I think I was home, I slept outside.
I couldn't sleep. with a ceiling. I went and laid in bed and I felt like I was claustrophobic because I was used to sleeping outside.
So I slept the first three days outside next to the chicken cook. And then after that eventually. Um I started getting better. Yeah. And like I say, I look so bad.
that my father decided to take me to. It was called El Varado's Hot Springs. and it was in Walnut, California. And he took me there and had them give me a you know, showers and baths and massages and all that kind of stuff to clean my body. We came back home and everything was alright.
I couldn't hang around people and stuff. I was nervous to be around people. And my dad noticed it. He asked me to go to the VA hospital. and tell them that I needed help.
Well, the VA was a circus. I had never seen anything like what the VA was then like. Because The government had told the doctors to deny anything that we were saying. was going on. They wouldn't give us medication.
They We gave you a nine o'clock appointment. You would sit all day. And then at five o'clock they'd come out and say, Doctor went home, come back tomorrow. And this went on and on and on. For years they treated us like that.
Eventually, one of the doctors told me, The reason being was The highest group was World War IIs, next was Koreans, and we were the bottom of the pole, Vietnam. And a lot of people were bitter because we didn't win the war.
So they took it out on us. I could tell you a million stories. It's just unbelievable the treatment we got. And a special thanks to Camilo Venegas. for sharing his Vietnam story and his return.
with us. And also a special thanks to Luke, his nephew. Recording the interview We just listened to, and what a story he told. Coming back home. He said his mother was shocked at what he looked like.
The lights on the freeway, as he described it, reminded him of tracers. Tracer Lights in Vietnam. And he would just hit the floor in the car. Where is he? His parents wonder.
He couldn't sleep inside. He had to sleep outside 'cause he'd he'd slept so long without a roof. and then how he got treated by his own citizens. It was tragic. It was just disgraceful how the Vietnam veterans got treated.
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