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Ulysses S. Grant, and his friend and associate Ely Parker. the first Native American appointed to a cabinet-level position. in the United States history. Grant came to the West first as a soldier.
He went to West Point, and one of his first assignments, he was sent out to Missouri. And then, during the Mexican War, he was sent to fight in Mexico. When he was about to go, he was already engaged to a girl named Julia, whom he would marry, and she kept saying to him, You know, you're going to be killed by the Indians, you're going to be killed by the wild Comanches. He said, don't worry about it, I'm all right. He wasn't afraid of the Indians, but when he got into Mexico, it was the very first time he saw people of Native American descent.
And he is the first generation, eight generations of his family since the 1630s. He was the first one who had no encounter with Indians growing up. Everybody else and his family had been on some frontier moving from Massachusetts out to Ohio, so it at least encountered Indians. He saw the poorest of the poor in Mexico who were descendants of Indians and native people themselves. And he said, this country is so beautiful and the mistreatment of these people who are at the bottom of society by the wealthy and the powerful is terrible and that shook him deeply.
He then later was assigned to California as a soldier after the Mexican War. And he said, here the Indians, they were nicknamed the Digger Indians because they survived by gathering nuts and roots. He said they're used like beasts of burden by the men seeking gold in the gold fields. He said, This is terrible. And he used to write again back home to his family: Don't tell me about civilization.
Don't tell me that the white man is bringing civilization to the Indians. The only civilization. that they ever brought was smallpox. and whiskey. You get a sense of right from the start, he had immense sympathy for them.
In fact, he did a painting when he was a student at West Point, and it's of an Indian woman and man trading.
So we know from his letters and later in his memoirs, he must have had some innate sense of these are good and decent people. He did not like war.
So the thought that you would go and slaughter people, that he Had done nothing except be the original occupants of the land, as he said. He didn't like that. I think if he had been allowed to choose his own life for himself, he would have been a farmer and he would have stayed on the land in Ohio. and he loved animals. He never, ever, ever went hunting.
He loathed hunting. Unlike his the the children he was growing up with, He had a respect for nature. To me, it meant he was. Of had a more sympathetic view to creation and reality, not normal to his time in question, and maybe still not normal today. His best friend, Ely Parker, who was a Seneca Indian, said there was something innately Indian about U.S.
Grant. He's not like other Americans. He's definitely in life not like the men of his times. This man who's going to be known. For these horrible battles in the Civil War, I had a kind of innate sympathy for nature and.
a kind of Indian way about him. At least that's what Parker noticed about him. Parker was born in western New York. Seneca, he was born on the Tonawanda Indian Reserve. And right from the start, he was just a remarkable student.
He wanted to learn. He often told the story of. Once he was riding with British soldiers. And they mocked him because he couldn't speak English. And he was so humiliated, he told his father, I want to learn.
I want to master the English language. I want to learn everything. And so he was sent to local schools on his reserve run by a Baptist preacher. He went to local academies. He eventually had some college education and he read everything, absolutely everything.
People who met him said: there's nothing you can mention that he doesn't know. He can converse on everything. He became a great writer. He became a great speaker. He loved oratory.
And eventually he read law. He should have been able to sit for the bar exam in New York, but they told him he was an Indian, so no, you can't take the bar exam. But when his tribe was fighting in the Supreme Court to maintain their land on Tanawanda, he was the advisor to the tribe's lawyers, and he sat there in the Supreme Court giving advice that helped the Seneca keep Tanawanda. He was, you know, he was, how shall we say it? He accepted, like his whole tribe did.
We know the world is changing. We'll do our part to be part of this American experience, so he's perfectly educated. But he loved his tribe, respected their traditions, He was so beloved by his tribe he was elected leader of the Seneca when he was only eighteen.
So he was an amazing person. He was so far ahead of the world he was living in, where this idea would later be developing, is that somehow. To be an American, you have to wipe out all your Indian myths or whatever your culture is. He used to say, no, you can be both. You can retain your traditions, but you can still be part of this new American experience.
He himself, if he could have voted, he would have voted Democratic. He liked Stephen Douglas, who believed in settling the West. not looking back, you know, letting slavery die. And building a tremendous American civilization, all of us together out west.
So he was a fascinating human being. But he needed to get a job, and his job was he became an engineer. And he worked on the canals in New York. Finally, he got a job right before the Civil War working for the U.S. Treasury.
and he was the superintendent of all the lighthouses in the Great Lakes. And then, right about 1859, he gets a job building a custom house out in Galena, Illinois, and that's where it's going to meet U.S. grant. And you've been listening to Dr. Mary Stockwell.
Tell the story of Ulysses S. Grant. and Ely Parker. and Parker is the first Native American appointed to to a cabinet-level position in United States history. And of course, Grant, who had these special, special feelings for American Indians, identified with them.
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to a cabinet position. When we last left off, Ely Parker, a young man on the move, had been sent to build a U.S. Customs house in Galena, Illinois. Or you would meet. U.
S. Grant. Let's return to Dr. Mary Stockwell. In 1859, if we looked at these two men not knowing what was coming.
The success story was Parker. brilliantly educated. Helping to argue a case in the Supreme Court, an engineer with all these responsibilities. He was at the height of what you could be as an ambitious young American in the 1850s. Grant was a failure.
Grant has fallen on hard times. He missed his family. They were living in Missouri, his wife and children. He starts to drink and he has a parting of the ways with the Army. He leaves the Army.
resigns, go back to Missouri. He fails at everything. The farm fails everything. Finally, his father, who's a very wealthy man who had been a farmer and then a tanner, had a tannery, and then he built this big leather business across the Midwest. He gives his son a job, just a clerk again in a leather store in Galena.
Something Grant hated. And that's where Parker made some. Parker comes in to buy leather goods. And he's fascinated by this man who's about his same age as Manny Ulysses Grant. And that anytime he goes in the store to buy something, Grant hides in the back room and waits till the customers are gone.
while Parker waits to talk to him. Because he said, I like him. He's behaving more like he's Seneca, like he's Indian. Parker said, white men love to talk and love to brag and love to say, hello, how are you? And he said they never shut up.
You don't have to be a loudmouth. You don't have to be gregarious. You must be stoic. Calm, respectful, and slowly you get to know him. And slowly, Parker befriended Grant.
Then the Civil War begins. and US grant. eventually darts his way back into the army, becomes a general, And Parker, who's a Democrat, As soon as Lincoln is elected, he loses his office because he's been working for the Buchanan administration. And he's not a Republican. He goes back home to Tonawanda and is just trying to farm.
He tries and tries, let me in the army. He goes to everyone asking, let me serve. But even Seward says to him, oh, this is a white man's war. Go back home and farm. But eventually, U.S.
Grant helps him. He gets him a job because he has perfect English, perfect speaking, perfect writing, perfect penmanship. This is the time before anything typewritten, so your secretary must be able to write anything quickly in a perfect handwriting. You know, telegrams are beginning, but letters are still the main means of communication. U.S.
Grant gets him a job working for another general. But when Grant's own secretaries Are so miserable and they can't clearly state what is happening. You know, writing the letters for Grant, they realize the man who's got the great penmanship, the man who's really the most educated and genius, is this young guy, Parker. And they take him and they assign him to Grant. He's chosen because, again, of his ability to communicate, his perfect handwriting, and it's not like a secretary today where you dictate it.
It would be more like Grant has to figure out what to say. Parker helps him say it, helps him communicate with Washington, D.C. And after Vicksburg, Grant is the big general. Grant says, this is the man I need. You can often see drawings.
Newspaper reporters would be drawing pictures at the time as they start to follow Grant. coming from Vicksburg, out to Tennessee, up to Virginia to finally fight Robert Lee, and he would always see Parker behind him in his uniform, and he would have an ink bottle tied to the buttons on his vest coat or his coat. Tied with a rope. He was always with him, always behind him, and did a tremendous job. When they get to Appomattox, and Robert E.
Lee is supposed to come in and sign surrender agreements. Another secretary is so shaken, can't even hold the pen, and he turns to Parker and he says, You do it.
So it's Parker who will do all the agreements. all the surrender. And in fact, when Lee saw him standing there in his Union uniform, he became offended because he thought, oh, Grant has a freed slave or a free black working for him. Then you look closer, he looks closer, he goes, no, he's an Indian. And he ran up to Parker, shook his hand, he said, You're the only American in the room.
And Parker scolded him a bit. He said, no, we're all Americans. We're all Americans. Parker often said, too, that was a dramatic meeting. He said, the next day they had another meeting, Leigh and Grant, like in an apple orchard.
He said, that was a far more dramatic meeting. He said, I'm sitting there with my portable desk. He says, I'm writing and writing. And he said, I wish someone would have painted that day. Rowe seemed to really realize this was over.
And he said it's to see these two men. one who had been so famous in the Mexican War, Lee, The other Grant, who had been really a failure as a soldier at the sea there, Lives flip upside down. Lee is now leading the ruined life and Grant is at the height of his A popularity in the height of his fame. Unbelievable to sit there and to chronicle this in the papers he was writing that led back to Washington, D.C. When U.S.
Grant is inaugurated president, he makes this strange comment in his first inaugural address. Everybody assumes he's going to talk about the South. Let's not hate, let's get back together. But he also makes a strange comment. He said, the original occupants of the land, I'm in favor of anything that will help in their civilization and citizenship.
And it's got this like tinny quality. Why is he talking about the Indians? He should only care about the South. People forget he's inaugurated in 1869. What did he do between 1865 and 1869?
Well, that's when he was general of the army. And he looks west and he says, We're going to come up with an Indian policy. that is humane. And he said, I do not want no more murdering, no more killing. He'd been a general in the Civil War when things like the Sand Creek Massacre occurred.
In Colorado, and he said, This is terrible. You can't just murder people willy-nilly. There's no You must not massacre the Indians. We gotta figure out a way. to save them.
And so he turned to many people. He asked Sheridan to help him. Sheridan was just Civil War all over again, kill all the Indians. He turned to Sherman, come on, give me some ideas. He turned to many generals.
Finally, the person who helped him the most was Parker. Parker remains at his side. Hia now assigns him to go out west to sit in many of these Indian councils. And he says, just go out and listen to these people. Let's figure out a way we can live together in peace.
The tribes out west were astounded when Grant's personal representative appears at all of these meetings. He's obviously Native American, he's Seneca, they're astounded.
So over four years, Grant and Parker come up with a policy, what should we do? He said, Well, peace, of course, it's often nicknamed the peace policy. The goal for both Grant and Parker was eventually. all the Indians will become citizens of the United States. And Grant used to talk about then, like the blanket of the Constitution would rest on them.
And they would be, they would have all the rights of citizens of the United States. When he made that strange statement, the original occupants of the land, he'd been thinking about this and studying it with Parker for four years.
Now he's president, now he can implement his policy, and he figures the person who can help me the most is Parker. You know, he is what I would like all the Indians in the Far West to be. He's got his heritage and his culture. Which he's proud of, but he also made the transition to a modern livelihood. And he's like the model of what I want everyone to be.
Grant's only worry, he said. Can I appoint This man, is he an American citizen? Is the Seneca Indian who's so brilliantly educated at my side, is he an American citizen? And he turned to his own attorney general. And he said, yes, because we read in the Constitution, there's a line about Indians who do not pay taxes, they're not going to be counted.
In congressional representation, and they said, Well, my gosh, he's been working in New York, he's worked in Virginia, he's worked throughout the West, he's always paid taxes. Obviously, he's an American citizen. That was the decision, and Grant was extremely popular at the time, and he was appointed the head commissioner of Indian Affairs. I think it's a forgotten story to this day, a tremendous story in many ways. And you've been listening to Dr.
Mary Stockwell. on the relationship between Ulysses S. Grant and Ely Parker. the first Native American appointed to a cabinet-level position in American history. That story continues here.
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Grant and Ely Parker. When we last left off, Parker had become the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, becoming the first Native American to hold that position and the first Native American to hold any cabinet-level position. And soon both Grant and Parker would be thrust into the political turmoil of the day. Again, here's Dr. Mary Stockwell to continue the story.
You know, when I was in school, and I read it today, I've read it in every recent biography that's come out on U.S. Grant, they always tell you the same thing. Grant had a peace policy. in which he wanted peace with the Indians, And then they say, and he appointed Christian missionaries to run all the reservations in the West. And it failed because of the Sioux War and Custer and things like that.
I discovered that was not true. None of that was true. He gets into office, he lays out this policy. They go: What we should do is the U.S. Army should be in charge of all the reservations.
We're gonna get rid of all the private people. We're gonna get rid of private traders. All the corruption is going to end. And we'll watch over the soldiers that we appoint, the superintendents. They'll, again, run reserves, they'll run the trading posts.
Grant wanted to do that because he said if the president appoints the army, anybody gets out of line in the West, they can be court-martialed and thrown out of the way. The idea was. If the army protected the Indians, From the onrush of settlers and railroads and immigrants coming their way, the Indians would have time, maybe a generation or two, to realize the buffalo are disappearing, they're gonna have to come up with different livelihoods. And Grant and Parker hoped, you know, maybe they'll become ranchers. That would be something they could do, raise cattle or something like that.
Yes, they would send... Doctors and teachers, or whatever, but there was no sense that you're gonna wipe out their Indian-ness. But it's very clear when you go through the grant papers, you realize these two men know had figured that soldiers were more honorable, soldiers could be dismissed if they disobeyed, and if soldiers are told you will protect these people, they would do it on pain of court-martial and being removed from the Army. It works for a long time, at least for a year, a year and a half, it works. What these two men hadn't realized.
Is the tremendous opposition that they would face. And they faced it from all kinds of people. Settlers out west thought Grant was nuts. The Western newspapers said, Why are you doing this? Tribes in places like Oklahoma, like the Cherokee, said, No, we don't want citizenship.
Many in Congress didn't like it because they said, You've shifted the power. You're taking power from us. We used to point everybody in the Indian affairs world. It was political patronage. You know, who cares if they got rotten stuff because the people we appointed sold the good blankets, the good food, and pocketed a profit.
They set up a thing called a Board of Indian Commissioners. They picked 10 wealthy philanthropic American men. And they say, you 10 men, you help us, give us advice, audit what we're doing, and keep an eye on us, but you'll help us. America had gone through a weird revision of their attitude towards wealth. Americans traditionally did not like wealth.
our wealthy people up to the Civil War. We thought it was corrupt. But in the Civil War, so many wealthy men, wealthy industrialists, had helped the North.
Now people respect businessmen as wise. This 10-man commission. They are determined to destroy Grant's Indian policy. They're led by a fellow named William Welsh, who was a merchant from. Philadelphia.
And he said, This policy is terrible. Indians must never be citizens. They're like second-class almost children. And how could Grant appoint this savage Seneca to run it? We're going to do everything we can to destroy this policy, and they do.
Congress and this Board of Indian Commissioners dick a knife into Parker. If we can get rid of Parker, we can get rid of Grant's ideas.
So what they do in the early part of 1871, William Welsh accuses Parker of pocketing a million-dollar contract at West. Parker is brought before a subcommittee in Congress. He's put on trial. A frightening trial where he is hauled all kinds of names, claims he's corrupt, claims he's pocketing money for the Indians when he didn't. Parker is finally exonerated, but he quits, he resigns, in the Army goes.
And that's the last true communication he ever has with Grant.
So he resigns in 1871. He goes back to New York, he tries to find work, he tries to just survive. He sees Grant only one more time when Grant is out of office and Grant's setting off on a world tour. Parker comes to meet him. and he brings him the desk he has saved the desk.
From the McLean Courthouse, where they signed the peace agreement in 1865. And he offers that to Grant. He never sees Grant again. Grant will later be sick and dying outside of Saratoga, New York, and it's like his summer home. Parker will try to come and meet him.
But Grant's son really disliked him and wouldn't let him near him, would never let him say goodbye to him. Grant Before he dies, writes his memoirs. He never ever discusses his Indian policy, which was in the beginning so creative. He never discusses it. The stories I told you at the beginning, those are all from his memoirs when he talks about the Indians and his sympathy.
He never discusses it, just walks away from the sadness and the disaster of it, and the wars, too. out west. The neat thing about Parker, Parker goes on to help write a book. He writes a book on the Iroquois. It's probably the first true study.
Of an American Indian tribe. That doesn't denigrate them, you know. That oh, they're uncivilized, but it shows the Haudenosaunee, it shows the Iroquois Confederacy, the Seneca Nation, in a positive life. That's going to be the beginning. Of getting American scholars to stop saying Indians are savages, aren't we happy that we crush them?
And it gets us to respect them. And I should say, by 1924, all American Indians were given citizenship if they didn't already have it. That was because so many. Young Native Americans had fought in the First World War. It was a thank you to them.
So, Grant's vision that we're all one nation. That to be an American doesn't mean you're a descendant of the Puritans. It means you're here. You're on this great ship of state. You can be a mix of people, and it doesn't matter where your ancestors came from because we are.
We have these legal rights and we have an identity through the law. I think he reminds me of a b a poem that Walt Whitman used to write about it. A song of democracy. where he talks about all of us on this ship. coming from all over the world.
And together heading into the future as Americans. That to me is the great vision these two men had.
So I think of Grant. Like Ulysses in this beautiful story of the Odyssey, where somehow Grant has this vision: we'll all be together on some grand adventure. All of us. My ancestors who go back to the Puritans, all the Indian tribes. He welcomed my ancestors, poverty-stricken, Catholic immigrants from Europe.
He wanted the freedmen in the South. The free blacks to be part of it.
Somehow we're all going to be under the Constitution, and that's what it is to be an American, and we go forward together. And a great job as always by Monty Montgomery. on the production of the piece and the storytelling and a special thanks to Dr. Mary Stockwell. On her contribution.
Her book is Interrupted Odyssey, Ulysses S. Grant. and the American Indians, go to Amazon or the usual suspects. and pick up a copy. And what a story.
Grant had a peace policy, it turns out. But my goodness, putting the US Army in charge.
Well, it seemed like a good idea. Worked for a bit. but in the end proved to be disastrous. In the end, nobody really wanted his policy. Even the Indians didn't want it.
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Sunday mornings, I've got my game day ritual. Coffee. Lucky socks. And now, new morning uncrustable sandwiches. It's all about that 12-gram protein boost with the new uncrustable bright-eyed berry or up and apple flavors.
Bright-eyed berries got a feisty. Receiver energy up in Apple. Your classic do-it-all tight end.
Soft, pillowy-packed with protein, and easy enough. for Gronk to grab from the freezer. Whether you're on the couch, driving to the tailgate or heading to the locker room. New morning uncruscible sandwiches. Are the MVP of snacks?
Your new Sunday kickoff ritual starts here. with new morning uncrustable sandwiches packed with 12 grams of protein. Get into the spirit with Vizio's MyHub, a new, simpler way to find everything you love on Vizio TV this holiday season. MyHub is your destination to discover new movies and shows tailored to you, find exclusive deals and discounts, and keep your favorites organized in one convenient place. Plus, Vizio TVs have all your favorite apps built in, like iHeartRadio, so you can stream that festive music playlist.
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