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is the story of Sean Pronger. and he was a Journeyman NHL player. who got his start on the hockey beat At a very young age, Close to home. Here's Sean. with his story.
To talk about the Gretzky chapter, we're going to have to go back to where it all began. Dryden, Ontario, Canada. Um I grew up in Dryden. Uh great. town, loved living there.
Um but If you don't like hockey and you don't like ice fishing, you probably aren't going to enjoy your time in Dryden, because it is remote. It's four hours from the nearest city, four hours from Winnipeg, four hours from Thunder Bay, and it's winter there for about eight to nine months. And we're talking real winter when it's 30 to 40 below is the norm. And so there's not a lot to do if you don't enjoy those two activities. And fortunately for me, My brother loved playing, and all of our buddies love playing.
So we would play on our driveway, we would play on the street in front of our house, and we had an outdoor rink a block away. And so we played hockey non-stop. I think the real games were down in our basement at 161 St. Charles Street. Like every town in Canada or every city, Hockey Night in Canada was a big deal, and everything kind of just stopped.
You know, all plans were made before or after Hockey Night in Canada on Saturday nights. And our house, the Pronger house, was no different. My mom and dad would come down there, my brother and I would settle in and watch the game, and every intermission or commercial. break was time to play one-on-one. right in front of my parents with our floor hockey sticks.
And I was always a forward, Chris was always a defenseman. And I look back down and and just laugh because my My parents just watched basically their two sons just beat the out of each other while her and my dad would just kind of sit back and. relax and enjoy the entertainment. And so we would Like I said, I was always forward, so then I would. dump it into the fake, you know, into the living room corner.
And uh he would go back to get it and I would ram his head into the drywall. And then we'd brawl and that, you know, just repeat that over and over. for uh I don't know eight or nine years. And so every game, every hockey night canada, we would do that. And I was always Gretzky, and he was always Bossy, even though Bossy wasn't a defenseman.
Uh Chris's favorite player was Mike Bossey growing up and and mine was uh Wayne Gretzky. And with Dryden being where it is, we were four hours from Winnipeg a couple times a year. The Pronger family would load up the family truckster and head up to Winnipeg to watch the Jets. Play the Oilers. In the good old Smythe division, obviously loved watching 99 play and how he could see everything and see the game was just a real thrill.
But one time we went up there and We, the hotel, I'm not sure if my dad knew this or we just got lucky, but The hotel that he booked us in was the same hotel the Oilers were staying in. And I'll never forget, we're in the lobby. And we're wa we're we're just kinda hanging out down there and we kinda look up and there's Kevin Lowe and Wayne Gretzky. And my brother, just like they're old buddies. As we're walking past, he's like, hey Kev.
Yeah. to Kevin Lowe. Uh I I find that I find that hilarious now that uh you know, Kevin Lowell would then go on to uh sign my brother to a massive contract and then he would ask to be traded a year later.
Okay. Their history started early. Um so then then so we're in the hotel. And we're kind of just like trying to figure out a way to go see more players, and I'm trying to figure out how to see Gretzky. They're in the Grecian's in the dining room, or the restaurant, and my brother and I were kind of peering around the corner, like checking him out.
I think he was having breakfast with Glenn Saylor.
So I'm watching him thinking.
Well, I don't want to bother him when he's eating. I just, this seems weird. And about that time, a guy came up behind me. And he had a jersey. He said, Hey kid, can you go get this autograph for my son?
And I thought, well, this is kind of weird, but you know, I never, you know, I'm kind of taught, like, you know, if you don't say no to adults.
So I walk over, interrupt his breakfast, and said, Mr. Gretzky, would you mind signing this? I could tell he was reluctant. Just because he's in a restaurant, and years later, I'd figure out why he didn't want everybody else to think they needed to come up and get an autograph. But anyway, he signed it, he was a gentleman, he was great.
I gave it to the guy and it dawned on me years later that that guy probably wasn't getting a sign for his son. He was probably hawking it at a memorabilia shop, but lesson learned.
So anyway, um I l you know. Passion for Euler hockey and my fact that Wayne Grisky was my idol started at a very young age. And then if you fast forward Years later, I'm now in you know in my own career. Where the fuck is Are you going to be able to do that? Actually, the way the year started, I was playing for the Penguins.
At the end, I got traded at the end of 98. But the play is set up in the slot, where Pronger gets himself in a great position from the Anaheim Ducks, or mighty ducks back then. Sean Pronger is a good kid. And finished the season with the Pittsburgh Penguins rather. unceremoniously and then before a game against the Washington Capitals.
Kevin Constantine calls me in. And so I get there, he's like, Sean. We're trading you. to New York and for some reason I thought it was the Islanders. He's like I'm like okay.
He's like yeah, so you're going to the Rangers and I'm like The Rangers? And he looked, I remember looking at me like, why do you look so happy? And I just thought, like, the Rangers, this is like Gretzky's on this team: Adam Graves, Kevin Stevens, Brian Leach. John McClain, Mike Richter, Jeff Bukaboom, Ulf Samuelson, all these guys I grew up watching, right? I mean, obviously my idol, and then all these other guys that I grew up watching, I'm like, this is gonna be awesome.
This is a rebirth for me.
So I get traded, you know, get traded. It was a blockbuster. It was actually a blockbuster trade. It was Alexei Kovalev. Um Harry York and $15 million.
So the way I kind of matched up the trade was. Alexei Kovalev for Peter Nedred. Harry Ork for Chris Tamer and 15 million For Sean Pronger. It's just the way I kind of broke the trade down internally. And so it was, yeah, it was a big trade.
So we meet the team in Buffalo. And Yeah. I mean, I don't know what I was expecting, but I get to the rink, and Craig McTavish is the assistant coach. And he's like, hey, Prongs, welcome to New York. You're not playing tonight.
And I'm like, here we go again.
So, anyway, I've scratched my first game for the Rangers, which was a sign of things to come. But what was really, I was thrilled to go to New York. My childhood best friend from Dryden, Ontario, Chris Hancock. had been living there for a few years, and so it was like, all right, We gotta keep make sure you know you're two small town boys from Canada in the big city, things could get out of hand, so we had to draw some boundaries and And make sure, okay, you got a job, you got a career you gotta worry about, I got a career you gotta worry about, let's make sure we pick our spots.
So we tried to. Keep our distance. And I wasn't playing, so I'd maybe get in the lineup for a couple shifts here and there, and then I'd be a healthy scratch for three games, get back in for a couple shifts, healthy scratch for a few games. And so I talked to the Our strength and conditioning coach, I said, I want you to drop a program that's gonna keep me ready for play as soon as I get my opportunity. I want to be ready to go and I'm going to take it.
And then it never came. And so it was just getting to the point where something's gotta give, and I was just kind of getting so frustrated. I think it was a game in Washington, actually, where I finally think I got my opportunity to do something. It was, I think we're in the second period. I'm in the lineup, which is great.
And we're killing a five-on-three. And he left, and Muckler, who's a coach, left me out there. And I'm like, okay, this is my chance. And I don't know why I thought that was my chance to go show them what I could do offensively. Because we're killing a penalty five on three.
I don't know what. I thought, but whatever, I was gonna make my mark. And uh anyway, so I I got the puck. And I'm ready, and they kind of dug, they fan on the puck and they gave it to me, and I'm kind of going at full speed. And there's two guys that I to Pete And the right place is dump it in and then you know change and hey done your job.
But I think, you know what, I can beat these guys.
So what I was going to do is split the D, go in, score, and then, you know, ride off into sunset. Not the case.
So I Go to split the D, poke check. I keep going, they pass it up, ding, ding, ding, three on two, actually a four on two. Pucks in the back of our net. I'm on the bench, never to come off the bench. And now I'm sitting out for probably the next three or four or five games.
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So now I'm skating in practice, getting crushed. And I go in to talk to Muckler. Actually, first of all, I asked, I'm like MACT, what should I do? You know, like, I want to play. I want to know what I need to do to stay in the lineup, to get in the lineup and stay in the lineup.
It's like promise, go talk to him.
So I'm like, all right.
Alright, I'll go talk to 'em.
So I go in there, and John Muckler, I mean, I grew up watching this guy. as part of the Euler dynasty. Pretty intimidating dude, is it that s s Massive head of silvery white hair. He's got his feet up on the thing. I mean, if he had a scotch, it wouldn't be out of place if he had a scotch and a cigar the way he was sitting there.
I'm like, hey, Coach Mux, you had a second? He's like, yeah, come on in. Like, hey coach, I just want to let you know I love love New York, love playing for the Rangers. I wanna Play more, what do I need to do? to stay in the lineup or get in the lineup and stay in the lineup.
And he goes off on a rant for about 15 minutes about how good the Edmonton Oilers were in the 80s at playing a give-and-go game. And how Players today, in the mid to late 90s, could not play that style of game, and it was very frustrating to him.
So we went off for about 15 minutes on that. And I remember walking out, and MACT was walking by. I was coming out. He's like, so, how'd it go? Honestly, I have no idea how it went.
But He's a big fan of the way you guys played in the uh 80s. And so I Kind of went back to my locker and I'm just like, something's gotta give.
So I called my buddy. Herbie Hancock. Lou. Herbie, tonight's tonight. We're going out.
And so, alright, we're going out, and we just so we go to whatever local pub. which there is what you know seven on every block And so we pick one, go there, and you know, we're having a great time. And New York's awesome. Having a great time. You know a couple different spots we hit.
And I remember walking into A bar, it was I think 1:30. I was very concerned when the after-hours bars were, what time they opened or what time, you know, when's that gonna go down.
So I wasn't ready to call it tonight. It was 1.30, which is obviously last call is getting close. Or so I thought. And I remember walking over to the bartender and I'm like, excuse me, ma'am, what time's uh Which are the after-hours bars open around here? And she goes, You mean after we close at 4:30?
And I'm like, No. No, this will be good.
So, of course, we stay there till 4:30, shut that bar down. Luckily, it was only about a 20-minute walk back to my place, and then I got there at like five. and had to get up at seven to dry off the practice. And which is not a big deal because that particular the day before, I was actually practicing as the eighth defenseman. And so I wasn't too worried about how I felt when I got to practice.
I get up, obviously not feeling the best, but I'm like, alright, just deal with it. And so get to practice, grab my usual Breakfast of Champions coffee with a double chocolate chip muffin. and I'm sitting there with kind of chocolate smeared all over my face. Just taking it all in in the in the locker room and I'm like looking around and something's kind of Don't move off. And like it's kind of like when you're Your wife, girlfriend, mother would rearrange the furniture, and I'm looking around.
I'm like, have we got a new player? What is going on here? And so it was just the color scheme was out of whack. And so I'm looking, I'm like, oh, all the named bars are the same, name tags. Then I look over, and I'm like, in my stall, which is normally the yellow jersey, because I'm either on the fifth line or I'm on the fourth set of defensemen.
Um it was a red jersey. I'm like, that doesn't make sense, man. Because the red jersey is Gretzky's Lions jersey. And I'm like, well, obviously, this is a mistake.
So I grabbed the jersey. And I go to uh I go to Mike Fogelin, who's the equipment guy. And I'm like, folks, gave me the wrong color of jersey and I kind of throw the jersey at 'em. And he grabs it and he throws it back. He goes, no, I didn't.
And I'm like, what? Oh yeah, dude, I'm yellow. I mean, we all know that. I think all the fans know that. And uh he's like, Yeah, not today, bud.
Um Kevin Stevens has the float.
So you're practicing with gravy. and Gretzky. And I just like Are you f kidding me and he's laughing at me because you can see the glazed overlook in my eyes.
So now my heart is in my throat. And I'm like, this is not, again, this is like, I grew up idolizing Wangratzki. And now I have the opportunity to practice with them. And I'm It couldn't be more hungover. I'm probably still drunk.
And now I'm thinking, what have I done to my, like, this is like a career-defining moment. Right when you're about to break through, maybe you do something stupid, go get drunk with your buddy, and now you're practicing with the greatest, well, with the greatest player that's ever played.
So, this is all going through my head as I'm trying to figure out how do I manage this whole situation, as far as like, okay, I need to get your head wrapped around this. Get your body ready. You just gotta get through this one practice.
So I go into the shower, crank it on freezing cold, sitting there for like 10 minutes, and figure out like. Should I tell Gasket hungover? First of all, does he even know who I am? Second of all, do I tell him I'm hungover, or do I just play it off like, okay, I'm just. That's how I always end.
So for you, you know what? He's a dude, he's gonna understand. Just men up and just tell them what's going on.
So I walk over to him like, hey, Wayne. I'm practicing with you today. He's like, yeah, I saw that. I'm like, yeah, I just wanna let you know, um, I had a buddy in town. Things may have gone on a little bit later than I would have liked, and just slightly hungover.
If you don't mind, Could you just keep the puck away from me and maybe, you know, just throw it over to graves, and I'll just kind of bang in rebounds and I'll do all the grunt work and you know, we'll. Yeah. I'll survive this practice and hopefully not get cut. And he's like, Promise, don't worry about it. I've been there myself.
And I'm like, yes, he knows my name. All right, he's on board. The greatest player in the game's on board. And all of a sudden, things started to lighten up for me. I just felt like.
Okay. We're gonna get through this. Kretz is on board. I'm gonna get out there. He's gonna snap the puck around.
I'll probably bang in a couple rebounds. Maybe leave a good taste in the coach's mouth. and be like, you know what, Rip Proger kid looked pretty good today. And so now I'm thinking. This is going to be my chance.
So we get out for practice. And I'm skipping around the warm-up like I'm a 15-year all-star. I'm like just like the arrogance that I had as a Fifth liner. Practicing with Gretzky was not just embarrassing, but I'm like, I'm just going with it. And so I'm just enjoying every moment and I'm just like thinking.
What if? Like what if there's a ch small chance I remember reading an article that Guski once said that you've put. Do you put A bunch of hockey players out on a pond, they're eventually gonna find the players that they pair up with naturally. Just the way they each see, the way they pass, the way they see each other's blades, and they'll just find each other, like him and Yari Currie did. And I kept thinking about that article and I was like, What if?
I mean, I gave it about a 1% chance that that could happen, but I'm like, what if? What if we're out here? Because the Rangers at that time. We were kind of struggling. And so It wouldn't be out of like it would be completely plausible that if There is a ounce of chemistry that they might give us at least a game.
And so I thought, okay, what if? What if Gretzky and I had this natural, undeniable chemistry And We get to play the next game, and let's say we win, maybe we do something good, and we get the next game, and the next game. And so, this is all going through my head in warm-up of a practice. And so, I'm like, all right. Here we go.
And so, first, finally, Muckler blows a whistle.
Alright, we're gonna warm up. We're doing the three-on-twos, like straight down, like kind of three-quarter ice three-on-twos. I kept forgetting, I'm the first line, so I better get my together and be ready to go.
So I'm like, all right, let's do this. And so I'm expecting Gretzky, hey, we had a deal. He's gonna backhand this saucer pass over to Gravy. You'll either shoot it or shoot it, probably is. Uh Adam Graves can.
And so I'm not really even looking. Anyway. I at the corner of my eye I just see this like Fluttering Tuck come flying over to me. Like, holy shit, passing it to me already? And it was like a wounded duck, and it hits the backhand, I'm playing on my off wing because I'm left-handed shot, playing the right side.
It goes off my backhand and literally over the glass. And the whistle goes, he's like, all right, go again.
So we do it again, he does the same thing. I don't think this one did not go out of play, but whatever, I fumbled it around. Anyway, that was just the sign of things to come, and every single pass Gretzky made was to me. Every one of them. Barely survived that practice, and I skated over to him after.
I'm like, Gretz. I'm so sorry. I didn't yeah, I don't I don't know what to tell you. He's like prongs. Don't worry about it.
I've been there myself and he gave me a wink. And I'm like, that He was playing me the whole time. And I think that was actually better. Than if he wasn't. Because it made me feel like I was part of the team, like I was close enough in the group that he could with me like that.
He just didn't give a shit about being it anyway. But it was, yeah, that's the Gretzky story, and I still. I still think we would have had some great chemistry, but uh I guess w the world will never know. and some great storytelling by Sean Pronger. And thanks as always to Greg Hengler for getting us this great story.
And sometimes big stories in life, well... They're just brushes with greatness. And How greatness handles things. I mean, that Gretzky handled. Prunger this way, teased him.
Meant, hey, you're one of the guys. It happens. Come on, let's get through this. Great storytelling and Sean Pronger's stories are chronicled in his memoir Journeyman. The many triumphs and even more numerous defeats of a guy who's seen just about everything in the game of hockey.
By the way, Pronger now lives with his wife. and two children in Orange County, California. By the way, send your stories in like this. We've all. at some time or another maybe came up or brushed up against some people like this in our lives and Very counterintuitive to hear a star.
Treat somebody who comes in drunk. To practice. Like this. in a gentle way, in a fun way.
So, send your stories as always to ouramericanstories.com. Sean Pronger's story. I was Gretzky's hungover line mate. Here on Our American Stories. Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show.
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