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Send them to OurAmericanStories.com. They're some of our favorites. The motion picture on a wing and a prayer follows passenger Doug White's harrowing journey to safely land a plane and save his entire family from insurmountable danger after their pilot dies unexpectedly mid-flight. By the way, the role is beautifully played by Dennis Quaid. Here to share the story is the man who lived it, Doug White.
Let's take a listen. 1989, I was running a drug store in a little town of Manham, Louisiana. M-A-N-G-H-A-M. We had no doctors there, so we had to depend on people to come from larger cities like Monroe after they've seen the doctor and bring the prescriptions 30 miles back to our store. Well, my store was literally right beside a drug store that had been there for 100 years, and it was called Manham Drug, been there so long. Well, I was an out-of-towner. I lived 30 miles away, and I was originally wasn't from this area. And the lady that was running the drug store next to me was born and raised here. Her daddy owned a cotton gin there.
She graduated from high school there. So to say the least, she was killing me in business. We were just about to starve to death. So rather than try to beat her in business, I just married her, and we made one big drug store, and two kids, and three granddaughters later, here we are.
So fast forward to 2006. I was having a conversation with a friend of mine, and he had just come back from the Cooper Clinic in Dallas. And I said, what's the Cooper Clinic? He said, you know the guy that invented or started aerobics, Dr. Kenneth Cooper.
And I said, yeah. He said, well, he's got a big clinic out there in Dallas that's, they don't accept insurance. They don't do any treating, but it's a diagnostic clinic. They just diagnose.
And they've got this one test that I went through. He said, we'll give you a good indication if you've got any blockages in your cardiac arteries that's non-invasive like a heart cath is. I said, that sounds interesting to me.
I said, I think I'll look into that because I've got a lot of heart trouble in my family on both sides. So I talked to my wife and I said, you want to go to Dallas for the weekend? She said, yeah. Well, we went out there on Friday and made the appointment and went through all the tests and everything. Of course, I'd been riding a bicycle a pretty good bit, so I had some good cardio training under my belt, and we just all figured that I was going to ace all that.
Well, the lady comes in after the treadmill. She said, well, it was a positive test. I said, that's good. She said, no, that's not good.
Positive is bad. That means you flunked it. I said, oh, I flunked it.
Yep. And I think you need to have a further exam. So we did the test where they check your calcium in your arteries, the one that my buddy was telling me about. And I flunked that one. And then they had me go do a heart CT, and I flunked that one. The guy said, you need to find a cardiologist. I said, man. So I came back.
That's made for a long weekend. I came back and I said, I filled a lot of prescriptions for cardiologists, but I'd never been to one. Who am I going to go see? Well, this one guy's name popped out that I'd filled a lot of prescriptions for in local areas. I went and made an appointment with him. He got me in in two days. And he said, you just bought yourself a heart cath. I said, oh, okay.
He goes in. I had an 80% blockage, a 90% blockage, and a 100% blockage. And the 100%, the good Lord and my body had come out above the blockage, come out of the artery on both sides, grown two new arteries down beside the blockage, and then tied back in below the blockage. So to this day, I've got 100% blockage in me, but it's got two arteries going around it. But all that was done with no symptoms, riding a bicycle 10 miles a day, no shortness of breath, no nothing. I was 53 years old.
All right. So I go see my brother. I had one sibling, brother named Jeff.
He was two years younger. When he was about 51, I went to see him. And I said, Jeff, you need to go get a stress test done. I said, I had two stents put in when I was 53. And I said, we had two 53-year-old cousins had heart attacks, one on each side of the family. 39-year-old uncle had triple bypass. His 45-year-old brother dropped dead of a heart attack, et cetera, et cetera.
I said, you need to go get a stress test. You're 51. And all these other things happened at 53 in our family. Well, IQ-wise, my brother was probably a genius. And he worked with a bunch of doctors. In an oncology clinic, he was a radiation health physicist. He's the one that calibrated and set up treatment programs for the radiation machines and the gamma knife radiation machines. He would calibrate all that. And he worked with a bunch of doctors.
And IQ-wise, he probably was smarter than they were, but sometimes he lacked in common sense. I said, so you need to go get that checked. And he said, they're not going to do anything.
Check your temperature, maybe get your blood or something. He rubbed his forehead, you know. And I said, no, it's more plus his wife was a nurse. Well, he never did go. And he dropped dead of a heart attack. And guess how old he was?
53. So I get word on a Saturday afternoon that he had died. My mother was there because she spent two or three months in the winter down in Naples, Florida.
And his wife was there. So I had to hurry up and find a way to get to Naples and helped tend to that. So Monroe, Louisiana was not a good connection on that short of notice. So I went to Jackson, Mississippi. That's probably two hours to the airport from me. I flew down there on Sunday.
My family came down in the middle of the week. And you've been listening to Doug White tell his story. And by the way, there's a movie based on his story, On a Wing and a Prayer.
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That was in 2009. Somebody said, well, you remember going out to the Japanese restaurant that night on Saturday night, don't you? I said, no, I couldn't tell you. Easter Sunday, they all went to Sunrise Church. I went to the regular time service.
I don't remember any of that. So I knew that a King Air airplane from our home airport had been chartered to the final day of the Masters golf tournament, to the Masters final Sunday in Augusta, Georgia. So I made a call to my buddy up there. And I said, why don't you drop those people off in the, in the, in the Georgia. Can you swing down here to Marco Island, Florida and pick me and my family up, fly us back to Monroe. And then I'll just pay you the difference in the gasoline between a straight shot back to Monroe and you're all looping down here because the charter people had already paid for the airplane and the, and the pilot and all that.
So yeah, we can do that. So they flew down there. Of course, we were going to come back to Jackson first and drop me off.
And then he would go ahead and bring the girls on back to Monroe. Joe K. Buck, C-A-B-U-K, who was a retired full bird colonel in the Air Force, was the pilot of the airplane. He flew down from Augusta, Georgia, and he landed. I got on the airplane.
He was going, cause we didn't have any return tickets from the time we went down to my brother's funeral cause we didn't know what time would be coming home or when. I said, you care if I sit up front? He said, no, sit right up here.
Here, here's a headset. Cause I said, I like looking out the window and I like to listen to the radio communication chatter. I'd only be on that, been on that King Air one time in my life before.
And that was a couple months earlier. And I'd asked the pilot, not Joe, but another fellow, how do you talk on the radio? And he reached over and showed me which button to push on the yoke there, the steering wheel, if you will.
So I knew which button to push. So I got on two months later and Joe was such a pro that he had both sets of radios already tuned in and dialed to the next frequency that we were going to need to talk to. So we take off, we head to the south towards Key West. He makes a 180 and we fly up through some clouds cause we're getting beat up pretty good and getting kicked around. He said, I remember Joe said, it'll smooth out when we get up on top here.
So we popped out on top and it did smooth out. Well, he's about when he checks in with Miami center at 8,500 feet and you can hear it on YouTube. You can hear him just run out of breath on the radio cause he had his finger on the push to talk switch.
And he dies right there. We're on a 2000 foot per minute climb on autopilot. And I don't have a clue every two and a half minutes, we're another mile higher.
So I don't know if we're going to run out of oxygen or if we're going to get to a certain height and quit flying and just stall and come out of the sky, which we would have happened. I don't know, but I do know where to push the talk button is because I'd asked the guy two months previous and I remembered and I pushed the button and Joe would set the radio frequencies up where I didn't have to try to find how to get to Miami center because I wouldn't have had a clue and it would have been dead quiet up there. So I pushed the button and told him what was going on. And then we had an emergency and I immediately moved to the head of the head of the line. When you're in an airplane and you declare an emergency, you move to the head of the class quickly. I got declared emergency, my pilot is deceased. I need help up here.
I mean, I need a King Air pilot to talk to. So they start, the first fellow was not helping me too bad too much cause I just wanted to stop the climb and went, it was supposed to stop at 10,000 feet and level out. But evidently there was a glitch or something cause we blew right through 10,000 feet. So here's 11,000, 12,000, 14,000 autopilot.
So once again, it says 10,000, I've already busted 10,000. I'm steady climbing. I need to stop the climb, but stay with me, Miami.
Let's go five niner Delta whiskey. I'm here. Don't worry. We're trying to find the solution to that as standby. So they go get another controller in Miami named Lisa Grimm, who also has some piloting experience.
They bring her down and they sit her down beside the first guy I was talking to. And he's working all these airliners full of people because it's Easter Sunday. It's international airport in Miami.
People coming in and flying out to visit family and going home and all that. It was busy. So while he's working five or six, seven aircrafts full of hundreds of people, she'll give him a hand signal.
So I got to work this guy. So she'd take over and say something to me for a couple of seconds, then hand it back to him. So she convinced me to disconnect autopilot. Autopilot. So she showed me where it was at and I flipped the switch to disconnect it.
Well, I know all this now. I didn't know it then, but the airplane was trimmed to climb at 2000 foot per minute. So the rudders and Ailey runs and everything were set to climb. The nose was up.
Well, just because I turned off the autopilot, none of that changes. So as soon as I clicked that autopilot off, that nose of that King Air was sticking straight up in the air. And that was the heaviest thing I'd ever grabbed a hold of my life.
I thought I'd grabbed a hold of a thousand pound gorilla. So I tried to push the yoke forward as hard as I could with my right hand. And I didn't know it at the time, but there was a little switch by my thumb.
My left thumb is an electric trim switch. I could have just pushed it, gave myself some immediate relief, but I didn't know anything about that. But I knew there was a trim wheel way over on the other side of the airplane. So I reached over there with my left hand. While I was with my right hand, I was shoving the yoke forward as hard as I could to keep the nose from going straight up and stalling the airplane. And I reached between the pilot's dead leg and the panel over there.
And I got one finger on the trim control wheel and I was able to give myself a little bit of relief where I could handle the airplane. So they take me over out over the Gulf of Mexico. I guess maybe not gonna make as big of an explosion or something. So I'm going out over the Gulf of Mexico heading west. I've got a baby blue sky going into baby blue water. So I have no visual reference. I mean it's instrument flight conditions at two o'clock in the afternoon. And he's wanting me to make a 180 and turn back towards land. I know that, but I'm afraid to turn the airplane.
I'm afraid I'll upset it and flip it upside down. So what should have been a maybe a one minute turn probably took me 10 or 12 minutes because I was all tensed up. Are you showing me in a turn? I'm not moving very good here. I know too it still looks like you're southwestbound and no turn yet. The altitude and speed look good but you're still southwestbound. Turn left to left.
Okay hold on. So I'm out over the Gulf of Mexico and I said well if I turn this autopilot back on will that help me fly? And he said yeah you can you can turn that back on if you want to. So I reached down there on the same switch and I flipped it on. Well what I didn't know was when Joe had got ready to take off he had set the autopilot to fly due north out of south Florida. Due north towards the panhandle of Florida.
That hadn't changed either just because I'd turned it off. So I'm heading due west out over the Gulf. When I turn the autopilot back on that thing yanks around to the right and yaws to the right real hard wanting to fly north like it was set to and that kind of scared me.
So I turned it back off real quick and I said no I can't do that it messes up my heading. And you're listening to Doug White tell one heck of a story. The movie is on a wing and a prayer.
I see it by all means. It's the story of Doug White and by the way Dennis Quaid does a heck of a job playing Doug White but this is Doug White and you're hearing real life audio from the tower and my goodness he sounds calm and I guess in in those circumstances that's all you've got. But how he handled himself in the cockpit it's just remarkable listening to it. My pilot is deceased and I need a king air pilot to talk to he asks or commands. I need to stop the climb he says a bit later. 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summer megan megan megan megan would you prefer that i give you a printout that you can read at your own pace megan yes it's me what a shock exciter on june 27th she is a smoking hot warrior princess all right meet sachs let's get to work are you going to stand in my way the b is back do you think you learned your lesson the first time megan and we continue with our american stories and doug white's story let's pick up where we last left off well the people in fort myers which is on the west side of the state at the airport they hear that we're coming miami hands them off to us to to fort myers and they hear we're coming so the fort myers airport gets shut down nobody's coming in nobody's leaving dan favio is one of the controllers at fort myers fav is in victor i o dan favio fabio he hears there's a king air coming in the king air's in trouble and he remembers that he has a good friend in dan burry connecticut it has a lot of king air experience that's where dan used to work his friend in connecticut's name is carrie k a r i carrie sorensen dan gets on his cell phone calls carrie sorensen carries hey buddy what's going on i don't have time to chat right now i got a king air in trouble i need your help carrie had been riding around dan burry connecticut that day and he's old he's got an old model t or a model a antique car and he was a pretty day and he's riding around with his girlfriend ashley he wasn't him at the house but he had to come back by the house for something use the restroom or get something and that exact moment when he's at his house is when dan calls him he said what can i do for you he said he doesn't know anything about a king air so carrie runs down to his basement in dan burry connecticut he's got a king air poster of the cockpit of a king air on the wall of his office so he sits down he's looking at the exact same thing i'm looking at and brian norton is another controller in fort meyers he's his shift is over he's leaving the tower i think it's two o'clock local time he's out in the parking lot he's got a little bit of piloting experience nothing as complex as a king air but little cherokees and cessna 172s and such he's going home his supervisor runs out of the tower runs out in the parking lot and gets brian and ask him to come back in and sit down and help work us so brian's sitting there talking to me in the radio dan fabio sitting beside brian talking to carrie sorensen 1200 miles away in a cell phone so carrie would say tell him he needs to drop flaps when he gets ready to land and the flap setting is right beside his left leg so he'd tell dan that dan would tell brian that brian would tell it to me and i'd say got it and i said well how fast do i need to go without stalling this airplane he said stand by yes dan is how fast they have to go without stalling this airplane he'd ask carrie and carrie would tell him dan would tell brian and brian would tell me that's how they went back and forth for 20 or 25 minutes that's that's how you they just thinking on their feet i was told later that the ntsb that investigates crashes had already released a crash a rescue not a rescue plane a recovery plane maybe out of atlanta was in route and they turned the airplane around later and sent them back home and it's the first time in history that the ntsb had ever turned the recovery plane around so we come in when i finally get turned around and i can see land i'm getting a little bit more comfortable i can see a strip of a runway out there at 10 or 12 miles looks like a little one inch strip but now it's all going to be just depth perception and eye hand coordination don't get too slow don't get too low and all that so they tell me where the knob is to drop the landing gear and when to drop the landing gear and all that now when i recharge these throttle here in a minute i need to know what's indicated to go to nine dela whiskey roger we'll just retard them slowly you could start now at your discretion a little bit at a time and when you get to 150 knots i'm told you can drop the gear in the flats and they said later that i was coming in too low matter of fact brian told me one time on the radio he said you've got 12 000 feet of runway if you want to add some more power to it because they see i could my attitude or my angle descent was too low well the reason for that was and i know all this now i didn't know it then those big white marks on the end of a runway are a thousand feet from the down from the end and that's what your landing point is that's where all the black tire marks are that's where all the airliners try to land is a thousand foot from the end well i didn't know any of that nine dela whiskey roger it looks good from here good job it ain't nowhere till it's over for you my landing point my focus was on the very first inch of concrete of that runway that's what i was looking at not a thousand foot down the road that's why my angle descent was so shallow compared to normal well i touched down if i ever touched down i just killed a throttle or what that's correct when you touch down slowly uh kill the throttle so i finally got it down and now i can taxi it off the runway nine dela whiskey when you're ready you can go to ground frequency one two one point niner nice work one two one point nine thank you and i'm sitting there and my headset's moving back and forth so i tell the controller the ground controller who i'm talking to now look can you have those airliners move or can i turn sideways or something because they're their prop blast or jet blast is blowing my headset back here he said no you're fine just stay right where you're at what i didn't realize i had a double it's double pane insulated windshield in front of me it wasn't jet blast it was coming through that windshield blowing my headset it was my pulse beating so hard it was actually literally moving my headset back and forth so one of the emts or one of the firemen gets out in front of the king air and he starts giving a signal across his neck you know cut the engines cut the engines okay i get it but guess what i don't know how to cut the engines off so i said we just went through all this thing for 45 or 50 minutes now i'm going to cut somebody's head off so one of the airline pilots that was waiting to take off was listening to all this he came on the radio with the controller and volunteered he said look i've got a lot of time in the king air i can help him turn those engines off if you want me to and he said yeah go ahead so he walked me through how to turn engines off i just started with the fuel and we got the door open and the emts came in and got joe and took him off started working on him but when i came i remember i told you i came through those clouds on the way up because it's so bumpy well when i was at altitude out over the gulf of mexico and i finally got turned around and heading towards land you know i'm 11 12 000 feet high i've got to come back down to land obviously in that part of the state that part of the country is at sea level well when i come back down i did not come back down through any clouds because if i would have i'd have been a duster because that's instrument flying conditions you can't see inside of a cloud so you have to do everything by instruments and which would have been you know way out of my league but when i started to come back down the clouds were not there we just gone through them 30 minutes ago when i started to descent they disappeared and we're on final approach in florida at the beach in april in the middle afternoon and there's no wind none matter of fact uh brian norton he says this wind's virtually calm because i asked him two or three times about the wind because but being a regular wind i mean i wouldn't even hit the concrete and dan favio's talking to carrie up in connecticut and he says they're down buddy i'll call you back and he hangs up well that leaves carrying a lurch up in connecticut because when you're dealing with an airplane somebody says they're down that could mean two or three different things and we're listening to doug white he's just successfully landed a king air and by the way his family was on the plane and all of us listening to this kept wondering to ourselves could we have done this something tells me when you're the dad and you got to bring it home you bring it home and something kicked in some gear kicked in where he knew he had to do it when we come back more of this remarkable story doug white's story the movie is on a wing and a prayer dennis quaid plays doug white when we come back more of the real life doug white with the rest of this story here on our american stories and here we have a specimen from the early 2000s a legacy investing platform please don't touch the exhibit folks it could crash ready to step out of the financial history museum at public.com you can invest in almost everything stocks bonds options and more you 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return to our american stories and to doug white whose stories spawned the hollywood motion picture on a wing and a prayer starring dennis quaid we will also be listening to doug after receiving an archie league medal of safety award the archie league award is considered to be the highest honor in the air traffic control profession here's doug picking up with a story of the chain of king air airplane experts helping doug control and land after his pilot unexpectedly died and dan favio is talking to carrie up in connecticut and he says they're down buddy i'll call you back and he hangs up well that leaves carrying alerts up in connecticut because when you're dealing with an airplane somebody says they're down that could mean two or three different things well when it's over with dan gets ready to call carry back and his cell phone's dead i don't mean he had to go charge his battery up or get a new battery he had to get a new cell phone but he didn't even know carrie's phone number and brian norton sitting beside him didn't even know carrie's name but dan's cell phone stayed charged up just long enough for carrie to help us get down land safely and there's no wind and the clouds disappeared but i know who's in control of the weather and i know who was in control of that whole event i know god's not done with us yet the american people by and large are very resourceful people the great majority of people in this country have a lot of individual initiative there are exceptions we know who they are because our taxpayer dollars help them be that way but over the years the american people have seen problems and they've seen issues and we've worked ourselves around them over them we've invented things to make our life easier and fix stuff we've invented things like well the airplane for instance because you know help us get around better and cars and telephones and televisions and whatnot because we have initiative but there's one thing that i found in my lifetime that will knock down the resourcefulness of an individual quickly it will absolutely bury individual initiatives every time and that is bureaucracy of any sort you see bureaucrats think they're smarter than us regular old joes bureaucrats see a problem like y'all do and they have to form a committee to figure out what to do figure out what to do a month down the road the problem's still there and they've got to form another committee to oversee the first committee and the problem is still there then they've got to pass a resolution to give themselves permission to study the problem that they got their first place and then they have to have quorums it takes bureaucrats an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes but this bunch on easter sunday these folks had a problem that they faced on that day and they didn't form a committee to figure out what to do they just got it done they didn't pass a resolution because that's where they are you can't train for this people i guarantee you in your ops manual that's found sounds fancy i assume you've got something like an ops manual it doesn't say when king air pilot dies go down to another sector get a woman who has some pilot experience bring her up here sit her down beside you and while you're working all these airliners full of hundreds of people when she gets enough make a signal let her work him and let convince him to take care take the autopilot off if that doesn't work go to subsection b get on a cell phone and call a buddy lives a thousand miles from here that has king air experience and talk to him on the cell phone that is not there it's individual initiative that gets it done those are some of the divine things fell into place so we fast forward to now well back it up four or five years ago brian egiston e-g-e-s-t-o-n he used to he's a writer he used to write for the tyler perry show but he's was wanting to learn how to fly so he took two or three hours of flying lessons and he said well you don't need to fly anymore for a while you need to learn how to talk on the radio first and then we'll get back in the airplane so he's in the room over there in atlanta doing his flight training and they put air traffic control conversation on he's got to listen to it listen to how the lingo is and how they talk and all that and what he ends up listening to is the actual 45-minute recording of our incident and that enthralled him so much that he made an effort to try to get a hold of me well he went the old standard route of trying to find me he found me through one of my kids on facebook said are you the one you and your daddy and mama were on the airplane that the pilot passed away and la dee da dee da dee and yes sir would you give me your dad's mailing address so brian sent me a real nice letter about five years ago told me who he was said he's a screenwriter i said he was a fledgling pilot and he's a christian and he wanted to know if i cared if he wrote a screenplay about the event i said no i don't care and by the way that air traffic control tape that recording of 40 something minutes is used today and has been used for several years now in training by the faa when they're training new controllers and also when they're recertified it's training them what to do and what not to do an emergency situation like that so brian i said yeah that'd be fine i don't care so he said would you mind if i come to your house and interview you and i said no i don't care about that either so he loaded up he drove to archival louisiana and his pickup truck and he spent about three days with us and he had his tape recorder and he'd ask me questions sometimes he'd push record and we wouldn't he wouldn't say anything for two hours and he just recorded everything i took in my little golf course and took him to our little church and fed him and all that and we ended up being real close and we talked about a few things we'd like to have in the film a few things we didn't need in the film we all agreed with that and he went back and got busy and six weeks or so later he sent me a script it was called flying by faith was the title he put on and i liked it i said let's go with it so he spent the last four or five years trying to sell that and he'd just get pretty close with one of the studios and the guy would retire or he'd get fired or he'd go change jobs or something so we have to start all over again and matter of fact mgm uh turned it down two or three years ago well then he got across on roma downey's desk roma and her husband mark burnett run the faith-based section of mgm called light workers and she fell in love with the script and she went home she told mark she said you need to read this and she said mark burnett has never read a script can't stand to read the movie script but he read this one and he fell in love with it and they picked it back up and they made the film as mgm even though they turned it down a couple years a different department of mgm had turned down a couple years previous in the meantime she gets a hold of dennis quaid he was working on another project with her she said dennis i think you'd be perfect to play doug white in this film he said you're a pilot you're from the south etc so he said yeah let me read it so he came back and he said i'd love to do that film so they got dennis quaid on board and in the meantime amazon has since bought mgm so jeff bezos and amazon owns mgm now and they were going to release this film last august or so but it got moved up and i think by divine intervention it's a lot better idea anyway and it's going to be released on week on easter weekend this year under the name of on a wing and a prayer mgm changed it to the the title of on a wing and a prayer so it's going to be released on good friday which is april the 7th 23 of this year because the whole incident originally took place on easter sunday and the papers in south florida called it the eastern miracle so 14 years after the fact we're still here got three granddaughters later and the movie's coming out and we hope it is a home run for the studios we hope it's a home run for the church throughout the world and we hope it's a home run for brian niggason's professional career i'm hoping it does real well for amazon thank you for listening and a terrific job on the production editing and storytelling by our own greg angler and a special thanks to doug white for sharing his story the movie based on this story on a wing and a prayer with dennis quaid playing doug white and my goodness what an authentic voice and what an authentic sounding solution to a problem we know what he's talking about when he talks about how americans can just well get things done and we all know what bureaucracies look and feel like in the public and the private sector and it's not pleasant heck what's the theories the office about if anything but how silly and goofy working in large bureaucracies can be and what they can feel like doug white's story here on our 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