The Quest For Greatness

All of us want to be significant in the eyes of others. For some, that means having money.

For others, holding a high position tops the list. Jesus had some penetrating words for a mother who wanted her sons to sit beside Him in the coming Kingdom. Stay with us. From Chicago, this is The Moody Church Hour, a weekly service of worship and teaching under the ministry of Dr. Erwin Lutzer. Today, we turn to Matthew chapter 20 for a lesson on leadership and why greatness in God's eyes is actually measured in terms of our being servants to others.

Dr. Lutzer comes now to open our service. We hope that this worship service, which has been carefully planned, will be a great blessing to you. And especially, I'm hoping that the Lord will speak to all of our hearts regarding serving Him.

So please keep that in mind. Let us invite the blessed Holy Spirit of God to guide us. In a moment, we're going to sing a hymn that all of us love, the solid rock.

And we thank God that we have that confidence today in a world that clearly has lost its way. We have the solid rock of Jesus Christ. In the midst of all of our busyness, can we bow our heads for just a few moments of silence? Then I shall pray, and then we shall stand to sing the solid rock. Father, we thank you today for your faithfulness.

Thank you for being here in your presence. And we ask that in these moments you might give us hearts that are tuned to you. Direct us and lead us as we yield to you. In Jesus' name, amen. And on that we bless, and Jesus, God and righteousness, God, here at last, the sweetest thing, the holy being of Jesus' name. On Christ, the solid rock, I stand, all around the world is singing said, all around is singing said. When darkness fails his holy face, I rest on his unchanging grace. In every quiet, slowly fail, my anchor holds within the grave. On Christ, the solid rock, I stand, all around is singing said, all around is singing said.

He told his love and his love, some of me in the welding club, in all around my soul he's playing, leading is all my hope and skill. On Christ, the solid rock, I stand, all around is singing said, all around is singing said. On Christ, the solid rock, I stand, all around me in the welding club, blessed in his righteousness alone, all blessed to stand before the throne, the solid rock, I stand, all around is singing said, all around is singing said. When morning draws and evening days, new inspired songs of praise, they'll rise from earth to touch your love and glorify your name. Your name is a strong light of power, your name is a shelter like water, your name. When the nations sing of power, there's nothing that's power to say of your name.

Jesus, in your name we pray, come and fill our hearts with you. Let's pray to live for you and glorify your name, your name is a strong light of power, your name is a shelter like water, your name. When the nations sing of power, there's nothing that's power to say of your name. Your name is a strong light of power, your name is a shelter like water, your name. When the nations sing of power, there's nothing that's power to say of your name. There's a strong light of power in your name, there's a shelter like water in your name.

When the nations sing of power, there's nothing that's power to say of your name. How firm of a patient these saints of the Lord is made for your faith in his excellent work. Oh Lord, then he'll say that to you he has prayed, to you he has prayed, to you he has prayed, to you he has prayed. For I am my God, and he will still give me air.

I'll stay with thee, help me, and cause you to stand. Oh God, by my righteous God giveth me air. Through thy rich power does my God wish thou might. Thy praise, O salvation, shall be thine so proud. Our praise shall not hurt thee, I only need some.

But I've lost you thus through, and I don't need mine. For a soul that I keep does not need for divorce. I will not let you not defer to this throne.

For a soul that I keep does not need for divorce. I will not let you not defer to this throne. I invite you to follow along with me in your bulletin as we read together from Psalm 86.

Please read aloud with me on the bold print. This is God's holy word. Give ear, O Lord, to my prayer. Listen to my plea for grace. In the day of my trouble I call upon you.

For you answer me. There is none like you among the gods, O Lord, nor are there any works like yours. All the nations you have made shall come and worship before you, O Lord, and shall glorify your name.

For you are great and do wondrous things. You alone are God. Teach me your way, O Lord, that I may walk in your truth.

Unite my heart to fear your name. I give thanks to you, O Lord my God, with my whole heart, and I will glorify your name forever. I love you, Lord, and I lift my voice to worship you of my soul.

Rejoice, take joy, my King, in what you give. Give me a space, peace now. Give me a space, peace now. Give me a space, peace now in your name. I love you, Lord, and I lift my voice to worship you of my soul.

Rejoice, take joy, my King, in what you give. Give me a space, peace now. Give me a space, peace now. Give me a space, peace now. Give me a space, peace now.

Give me a space, peace now in your name. Praise God, all who know that He's home. Praise Him, all creatures here below. Praise Him, all of ye heavenly hosts. Praise, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Amen. We are born wanting to be great, aren't we? I think, for example, we see it on the playground where kids run and say, I want to be first. I want to be first.

I want to be first. We see it in high school where you want to be the center of attention, where you want to look good, where everybody thinks well of you. We see it in college, don't we? I was in Bible college, and I remember a friend of mine in the first year was elected president of the class, and I resented it.

I thought, why him and not me? A couple of years later, when I was elected president of the student body, that really felt good. We all want to be great, and then you get into your vocation, and you want to climb, climb the ladder of success, and you want to do it, and even if you step on some people in the way, greatness is something that you desire. And if somebody is ahead of you, and if somebody gets paid more than you do, and you do more work than he or she, you become very resentful because of their greatness, which you can't have. We all want to be great. Well, I have a question for you today. What about this business of ambition?

Is ambition sin? Is it something good? Can it be redeemed? What does it look like? Because what I'm interested in, and I hope that you are interested in it as well, is someday when we stand before the judgment seat of Jesus Christ, when we stand before the judgment seat, and our works are torched, we'd all like to have some gold, silver, and precious stones amid all the hay, wood, and stubble. We'd love to have something that endures.

What does that look like? Well, today I'm going to ask you to turn to a passage of Scripture that is indeed remarkable. It is compelling. It is bristling with lessons for us today, and it's the 20th chapter of the book of Matthew. Matthew chapter 20, and actually verse 20 is where we begin. Matthew 20 verse 20.

Now Jesus in verse 17 foretold his death. And then in the middle of this, we read, and I'm picking it up now on Matthew 20 verse 20, page 825, if you have a Bible that is there in the seat ahead of you. Then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came to him with her sons, and kneeling before him, she asked him for something. And he said to her, what do you want? She said, say that these two sons of mine are to sit, one on your right hand and one on your left in your kingdom. Jesus answered, and now he's speaking to the sons directly, you don't know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am able to drink?

And they said, oh yeah, we're able. And he said, you will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my father, just that far for a moment. Here you have disciples who were, of course, interested in the promotion of Jesus Christ, and the mother of James and John, whom we know to be Salome, who very probably was a sister to Mary, the mother of Jesus. Salome comes with a request to her nephew, Jesus, and says to him, now what about your two cousins, James and John? Would it be okay for them to be on the right hand, your right hand, and your left and your kingdom? Now we may think that this is a very brash request, and it is, but after all, if you look back at chapter 19 and you pick it up at verse 28, Jesus did say to the disciples that in the new world, when the son of man shall sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

So what's wrong with a little bit of paternalism, a little bit of nepotism, I think is the word we use, and why wouldn't you grant the request that I have that James and John be on your right hand and on your left? Jesus said, you don't know what you're asking. I've often thought, I think that that's true when we pray to God.

Oftentimes, the Lord says, you know, you don't have any idea what you're asking. But let's give these disciples some credit, because after all, they did drink of the cup, didn't they? Now when Jesus was crucified, they fled most assuredly. They were scared along with all of the other disciples, but then at least John came back and it ended up in Acts chapter 12 that James is killed by Herod with the sword. James is the first apostle to die. Stephen is the first Christian martyr, but James is the first apostle to be martyred, and so his head was cut off by Herod. He did follow Jesus in the cup of suffering. And as for John, he was exiled at the Mount of Patamus, the island of Patamus, and he was there and he suffered there too a great deal, and we're not sure exactly how he died.

Some think he died a martyr's death, though historically we cannot prove that. So the disciples here are willing to be with Christ and so forth, and they come and they ask this request, and you'll notice that Jesus said in verse 23 when they said, we are able, he said to them in verse 23, you will drink my cup, but to sit on my right hand and on my left is not mine to grant. But now notice verse 24, and when the ten heard it, they were indignant at the two brothers. What they are angry about is here are two of the disciples, two of the twelve, who are doing an end run on them. They are going to the boss for special favors, and they have no right to, and if James and John are at the right hand of Jesus, why not Peter and Andrew? They deserved it just as much, and the ten are indignant because they would like to sit there, and here they are trying to get a special favor from Jesus. And Jesus makes the remarkable statement to them, and says to them, you don't understand the issue. It is not mine to give, he says, but it is given by my Father who is in heaven. We have to just take a breath here and back up and look at this story and ponder it for a moment.

Let me ask you a question. Did these disciples love Jesus? Of course they loved Jesus. Were they willing to suffer for Jesus? Yes, they were willing to suffer for Jesus.

That's very obvious. Did they want to see Jesus Christ glorified? Yes, most assuredly they wanted to see Jesus glorified. And yet underneath all that, there was self-will and unholy ambition to have a part of the action and prominence. It is John Calvin who says that this is a bright mirror of human vanity. He says holy zeal is often accompanied by unholy ambition, unholy ambition with holy zeal. It is Luther who said that the sinful nature seeks to be glorified before it is crucified.

This idea of motive, of wanting prominence, of wanting to be recognized, of wanting to be first, of wanting to receive all the thanks that we have coming to us and resenting those who do less than we are and they get the praise, all of that lies within our hearts. And so Jesus gathers the twelve together and says I have something to say to you. It is not just that James and John are wrong.

The ten of you are wrong. This is not a James and John problem. This is a disciple problem and I say to you today this is your problem and it is my problem too. Holy zeal oftentimes a mask for some very unholy ambition.

Calvin got it right. And my how it dies so hard. Oh we fight it all of our lives. Here are these disciples who hear these words of Jesus and yet before the last supper there they are they're having an argument as to who is the greatest. You think disciples get over it but no it is embedded in the human nature, our sinful nature.

It is there all the time willing to crop up and that's where we are today certainly in modern evangelicalism. Who is the greatest pastor? Who is the greatest singer? Who has the greatest church? Who has the greatest audience? Who is the greatest? And the idea that other people can be used more than we are that they can be blessed more than we are and we have resentment in our hearts towards them all that is sin that God sees and lies in my heart and yours.

It dies hard but I need to share with you today that once it dies can you imagine how liberating it is. Imagine being so free from envy that you can rejoice in other people's successes. Somebody who does less work than you do but get more pay you rejoice in the fact that God has blessed them that way and you begin to serve others because the values of the kingdom are very different than the values of the world and now Jesus goes on to show them that. Jesus says that greatness in the kingdom is very different and there have been some who have been appointed to sit at the right hand of Jesus and the left but only the father knows who they are. What Jesus is saying is the father ordained from before the foundation of the world who will sit to the right of Jesus and who will sit to his left and it's not a matter of favoritism it's a matter of the father's sovereign choice and before this message is over we'll speculate on the kind of person that might be at the right of Jesus and his left. What I'd like to do now is to give you three truths three truths that will help us to understand true greatness and at the end of this message I want us to deal with the sin nature the sin nature of resentment the unholy ambition. Well first of all let me put it this way Jesus now teaches that greatness is not a matter of ruling but of serving. Listen to what Jesus says to the 12 in verse 25. He called them to him and said you know that the rulers of the gentiles lord it over them and their great ones exercise authority over them but it shall not be so among you but whoever would be great oh I urge you today my dear friend even as I urge myself let us will and desire to be great well here's the formula whoever would be great among you must be your servant and whoever would be first among you must be your slave even as the son of man came not to be served but to serve and to give his life a ransom for many Jesus says greatness is not ruling greatness is serving when he talks about the service he uses the word diakonos we're familiar with it because it's the word from which we get the word deacon or deaconess and historically it meant a person who did menial tasks that's what a deacon or a deaconess was but what Jesus does is he elevates this and he says this is greatness in the kingdom if you want to be great fine but this is the route to greatness if you want to be great in the kingdom you become a volunteer in our children's ministry and fill up the need that we have for volunteers that'll get you some greatness in the kingdom to be sure you serve others if you want to be great in the kingdom you can sign up for by the hand club for kids they need volunteers to minister to children one hour per week that you can work into your schedule to make a life transforming impact in the life of the child now that's the route to greatness you begin to serve others Jesus here gives us an example and if you really want to be great in the kingdom i'll throw this in if you really want to be great in the kingdom why don't you sign up with our parking committee and why don't you be willing to skip church every once in a while so that you can greet all the people that come and park their cars with a wonderful smile and welcome them to Moody Church now that's the path to greatness amen it must be a member of the parking committee who's back there and of course it's not only serving within the church it's serving within our community one of the passages of scripture i've often read with tears in my eyes and this is very convicting to me because my wife and children would tell me that i would much rather be served than to serve but listen to Jesus now he says be ready truly i say to you be ready when the lord comes blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes truly i say to you he i'm reading god's word here i would never make this up he that is the master will gird himself dress himself for service and have them recline at table and he will come and serve them in the kingdom jesus is going to say to his beloved ones you folks sit down and what i'm going to do is i'm going to don the uh dress of a servant and i'll come and serve you you want to do something great in the kingdom do you you volunteer for kitchen service when we're having a dinner you work in those areas and jesus said that that's the path to greatness it is not ruling it is serving i've thought about this because you're thinking about it right now too you should be should be a little bit ahead of me all the time not all the time but sometimes your question of course is can a christian ever run for political office because you know in politics you're at the top of this pyramid and everybody has to has to serve you people love to be served the answer is yes but it is a very careful yes every politician every leader will say that he's running for the good of the people for the good of the country i mean that's just standard fare fact is that oftentimes that masks some very very deceptive motives of power and authority and whatever i have i hang on until my knuckles turn white i was in canada recently and heard of a politician there who needed three precincts we'll call them that in order to be elected because everybody else was for him but not these three so he went and he made them a promise a promise and i won't tell you what it is because that's irrelevant but as a result of that promise he wasted 125 million dollars of the taxpayers money just to get elected no doubt he says well i'm doing it for the good of the people yeah sure but if a person wants to run as a christian what he needs to do is to say i'm running as a servant of righteousness i'm running in order to to glorify god and to help this country bring glory to god those motives those motives have to be clear i like what the commentator lenski said i want you to visualize the world as a pyramid okay and at the top is the president or the king or the leader of a country and most of the time in the case of the world of course he's on top there everybody is beneath him doing him service lenski said great men are not sitting on top of lesser men but bearing lesser men on their backs the pyramid is inverted if you want to be a christian leader a christian politician fine but you be at the lower end of the pyramid and you be committed to righteousness and you don't give in to all the whims of your party and all the things you have to do to get elected for quote the good of the people but you run for the glory of god on god's standards as you know them and carrying the needs and the concerns and the burden of the people on your back that's greatness in the kingdom of god so first of all jesus said that what we must do is he said greatness is not a matter of ruling it is a matter of serving secondly true greatness is not a matter of convenience it's not a matter of convenience it's a matter of being willing to sacrifice you're willing to sacrifice jesus said to them you want to be great in the kingdom hey are you able to drink the cup that i'm going to drink they said yeah we're able and history proved that they were essentially correct they were able to drink that cup but we think to ourselves that true greatness in the kingdom is coasting along volunteering whenever it just happens to be convenient and doesn't upset anything that we are planning to do as long as it doesn't cost me anything as long as there's no real time commitment i'd rather even throw a few dollars in the offering basket but one thing is sure i will not be involved and so there are people in our churches today who say preach to me sing to me and by the way the music had better be the kind that i like because i like the same kind of music as god so what you're saying is preach to me teach me you'd better bless me because if not i'll be out of here but i'm not going to get involved in any way that costs me anything my friend do you honestly think that at the judgment seat of jesus christ god is going to say to you well done thou good and faithful servant for thou hast listened to three thousand four hundred and sixty-one messages enter thou into the joy of the kingdom i don't think so many of us are admirers of bonhoeffer who of course stood against hitler and you know that whole story and if you don't you really ought to because he's a great model for us bonhoeffer judged the church excoriated it i hope that's the right word and he said that they were interested in cheap grace cheap grace meant that you come to church you enjoy the service and you leave unaffected uninvolved and being unwilling to pay any significant price for what you believe that's cheap grace and some of bonhoeffer's sermons and of course his book on discipleship are powerful expressions of that whole idea and then bonhoeffer asked this question he says who is jesus christ for you he said in our day it is the jew now you remember jesus said you remember in matthew 25 that if you visit somebody in prison you visited me if you clothe somebody you've clothed me and well and people are going to say wait a moment jesus you weren't in prison i didn't clothe you i didn't bring you meals and he will say in as much as you have done it unto the least of these my brethren you've done it to me so jesus comes to us today who is jesus for you is jesus the perhaps the single mother who'd give anything if only some father would come along and take her boy along with his boy to a baseball game is that who jesus is to you perhaps is jesus the biracial child who's struggling with identity is it the person who is struggling with their sexuality is that the person that jesus is to you is it the person across the street that has had a tragedy in their home to whom you can bless by bringing meals or whatever who is jesus for you today to serve you see the reason that so many of you have not committed to things such as our children's ministry or by the hand is because you want something that is convenient something that is easy something that doesn't disrupt your time something that doesn't require that you go to a debatable neighborhood but that you stay in a comfort zone and that you and i stay there absolutely committed to ourselves and to our own comforts with christianity thrown in ungiving largely uncaring but enjoying jesus said you want to be great in the kingdom you'd better be willing to sacrifice for the kingdom because everything else much of what we do is all going to go up in smoke but the gold silver and precious stones are involvement that costs us something do you remember david david uh rona the jebusite said to him oh king if you want to build a temple here or offer a sacrifice here on this rock i'll give it to you and david said uh-uh i'm going to pay you a fair price because i will not offer unto god that which costs me nothing wow jesus is saying you want to be great in the kingdom don't you be great be willing to sacrifice for the kingdom and then third and this gets to the heart of it this is where the conviction comes if you are already convicted fasten your seat belt and that is that true greatness is not me centered true greatness is not me centered true greatness is cross centered now your bibles are open thank you for bringing them to the church you'll notice it says this of jesus we read it a moment ago whoever would be great among you must be your servant whoever would be first among you would be your slave by the way are you a slave to your employer you say yeah i sure am what are you complaining about jesus said that if you want to be great you have to be a slave but now notice even as the son of man came not to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom literally the greek says in the stead of many people would understand that in jesus christ day because a ransom was what was paid if you wanted to buy a slave out of out of his slavery you paid a ransom you paid money to free him what jesus is saying in this text is i'm the one that gave myself as a ransom i offered myself up to buy you out of the kingdom of darkness to bring you into the kingdom of light and i paid the price of a slave and more paying it all to the father of course because of the horrendousness of our sin and therefore i bought you and i did that not because i had to but because i loved you and i am a servant isn't it wonderful to know that we have been redeemed by jesus the ransom has been paid friday evening i was flying to chicago was speaking somewhere else for a couple of days this past week beside me was a wonderful woman who i got to know and i knew that she was religious because of a talk we've had maybe she's even here today i invited her to Moody Church if she can come but i smiled as i often do try to and said to her now do you think that you have done enough so that when you die you get to heaven i just asked her that question and she looked at me with a smile and she said well how can we know how much we have to do to get to heaven don't you love it isn't that the question that everybody should grapple with how much do you have to do to get to heaven how wonderful it was for me to remind her that jesus christ's ransom was complete and he paid it all for those who believe on him augustus top lady had it right could my tears forever flow could my zeal no respite no all for sin could not atone thou must save and thou alone and if you're listening to this and you think that you're going to get to heaven because you have done enough good works you are very deceived you must come to christ receive him as savior accept what he did and the payment that he made on behalf of sinners he gave himself a ransom instead of the many who believe on him but there's more to being ransom than just forgiveness beautiful though that is when you study the rest of the new testament you discover that entailed in that is also it's also freedom it's it's it's coming to the cross of jesus christ it's laying down the unholy ambition because we come to the place of the cross and we die to self-will it was george mueller who had many orphanages in england ministering to the poor who said the day came when i died to george mueller what he meant was i die to all of my ambitions i die to all the things that i think i want to do and i submit myself ultimately to god and he can do through me whatever he desires it doesn't matter who gets the credit it doesn't matter if people get more pay than i do it doesn't matter all that matters is my service to god it is called cross-centered servanthood that comes right to the heart of our own selfish motivation and it is there that god puts the axe right to the root of the tree well who do you think is going to be on the right hand of jesus and on his left maybe peter and john are candidates i don't know but let's suppose for fun and this has to be a fun proposal let's suppose it's you of all things use your imagination a little bit here and how would you feel if jesus said hey you know you sit at the right hand you sit at the left how would you feel you would be so amazed at grace you would be so filled with praise knowing that this is beyond all belief and you'd be giving thanks to god did you know that someday when we are there at the at the kingdom and there's somebody on the right hand of jesus and somebody on the left did you know that that's the way you're going to feel about them jonathan edwards was right when he said that when we get to heaven we are going to be so delivered from self that when we see other people glorified and honored above us we will rejoice as if their exaltation were our own can you imagine that imagine being done with all image building imagine being done with all sense of unholy competition imagine being done with envy to people who have more than you do or who are blessed more or who got paid more though they did less imagine being so so filled with the glory of god that you rejoice in the success of others more than you could even your own you know if james and john were fully sanctified way back when they were here on earth and if the disciples were fully sanctified and let's suppose james and john did go to jesus and make the request if those ten had been fully sanctified you know what they'd have said james and john we just heard that you went to jesus to get the top spot in the kingdom and we're excited for you we hope that he says yes now that didn't happen did it and it doesn't happen where you work tomorrow either does it but those are the values of the kingdom so you want to do something great we want everyone in this church and i realize that some of you because of infirmities of various kinds and limitations it may not apply i don't want to put unholy guilt on you but for the rest of us we want everybody to be involved in something something that costs you something something that serves other people without getting anything back as jesus even said he said when you're going to throw a feast bring the people the infirm the lame the blind people who can never repay you and then he says i will repay you at the resurrection of the just now that's true greatness that's what jesus is saying the values of the kingdom are all about and that's why when this service is over hundreds of you should go into the lobby and you should find out more information and commit yourself to something that has eternal value because only that is going to survive the fire well you say pastor lutzer okay how do i know when i'm a servant thank you again for asking that question i'm always a step ahead of you now aren't i how do you know when you're a servant lauren sanny who was the founder of the navigators said on one occasion that if you want to know if you're a servant he said you can tell by the way in which you respond when you're treated like one i kind of like that and i think you should like that too so how do you respond when you're treated like a servant well that's beneath me why did she ask me to do that why doesn't somebody else do that now you're not a servant if you respond that way and i'm not a servant if i respond that way what jesus is saying is follow in my footsteps because even the son of man he didn't come to be served he came to serve and give his life at great personal cost in behalf of many and he and he is the example that we follow today so that all of our slots here at The Moody Church of volunteerism are filled and we have more people than we need because we have a heart to follow jesus who turned the values of the world upside down have you died to self have you come to the cross and said okay i give up my ambition and i choose your holy ambition and when you do that god may lead you to earn a lot of money especially so that you can give it away god may enable you to become president of your company god may give you a great ministry but let god be first and the only question you ask in the midst of it all is how is he glorified and how does the cross look through my life and ministry so what do you think let's bow in prayer father we are so so self-centered so sensitive to the way in which we look and the way others perceive us and whether we're getting a fair shake or whether we aren't and whether we're getting the credit that we think we deserve and whether somebody's upstaging us we're all just bound up in those kinds of sins bring deliverance to your people today bring them lord to the foot of the cross even father as you've worked in my heart this week in preparation for this message we all needed to hear it oh father bring us to be servants of jesus may we follow him and now before i close this prayer i want you to pray because god's talked to you and he's talked to you about your life he's talked to you about your motivation he wants to give you holy ambition instead of unholy ambition and you need to deal with god right now would you go ahead and do that in in silence right now as you call on god father i pray that this may be a beginning where we come to the cross every morning and once again yield all of the rationalizations holy ambition is what we desire we pray father that holy zeal may not mask unholy ambition and make this a church father god that is on fire to serve this community to serve our neighbors to serve one another to serve those whom you bring with us than you bring to us make us a serving church in jesus name we ask amen amen amen on today's Moody Church hour dr erwin lutzer spoke on the quest for greatness taken from matthew chapter 20 we hope today's lessons on leadership will resonate in your life and be displayed in the way you treat other people we'd like to put today's message on leadership in your hands on cd as our way of saying thanks for your gift of any amount to The Moody Church hour just call us at 1-800-215-5001 ask about the quest for greatness when you call 1-800-215-5001 or you can write to us at The Moody Church 1635 north la salle boulevard chicago illinois 60614 online go to moody offer dot com that's moody offer dot com next week join us for another Moody Church hour with dr erwin lutzer and the congregation of historic Moody Church in chicago this broadcast is a ministry of The Moody Church you