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Today's date is December 2nd, 2024. Thanks for listening this Truth Network Podcast. Give me a lesson about Truth Network Podcast. upon the good decisions of people So you see you understand believing in God choosing God are good things and they are not knocking after good things, but does God Choose you for salvation and that Bible says they just so you know It says the second Thessalonians 2 13 it says God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation That's what it says in Ephesians 1 4 It says that he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we be holy and blameless So I can go on with verses like this This is what the Bible teaches and a lot of people just don't like it They have a knee-jerk reaction against it because they've been taught. Let's just say man be pamby theology in a lot of churches And that's that is the case a lot of churches just just teach man be pamby Humanist philosophy that man is the standard man is is the right way to look at things God will never ask you to do something you can't do God's is all about The blonde hair blue eye Caucasian surfer Jesus dressed in a woman's nightgown standing at the door of your heart asking permission for you to let him in permission in your wisdom and Stuff like that. And so I work against that kind of Mundane unbiblical theology. I know I offend people when I talk like that But I've had so many people over the years 21 years of radio I've had so many people say that they first listen to me they get irritated because they don't like my arrogance And I say well don't mistake confidence in the Word of God with arrogance And to see what what the Word of God says and I've had so many people over the years say, you know I just kept listening and you kept quoting the verses I go look at them and that's what it says I'm glad there you go.

What do you do with that? You know, but I found that a lot of churches what they want to do is give us ear tickling messages You know God loves everybody equally and it's just up to you to to believe in him or not it's up to your choice and You know if you just you remain good, you'll be fine. Just remain faithful. Just don't do anything really too bad Just you'll be fine for the rest of your life to go to heaven and that's heresy. Okay, that is heresy All right, and it is if you want to challenge me on it, we can go to town and white heresy All right. No, so what does God choose us for salvation based on is it something in him or is it something in us?

That's the question My opponent on Friday was saying was something in us And I said well Do you have a verse that says that he chooses people for salvation? based on something in them He finally went to the Bible and he quoted this verse out of Romans 11 32 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that he may show mercy to all That doesn't answer the question what's the criteria that God uses to elect people and that's not the verse that shows it so it was a train wreck and for him And what's interesting is that With this concomitant with this there's a hate group on on On clubhouse, that's a chat platform there at their their head go without doubt at their hate group and They hate reformed theology the sovereignty of God It's all about man's freedom man's will man's this man's that and then what they'll do is Is they will will say that people who held the reformed theology are responsible for slavery It's like what where'd you get this? They just say this stuff, and then they throw the baby out with the bathwater They're really a hate group.

They have been doing Damage control now since the since the debate a lot of damage control I've received some personal attacks Joanne who works with us has received some personal attacks from the the hate mongers in there So, you know, it's just it's just interesting. This is what happens when you tip people's idols And then when you knock them all the way over, oh man, they're gonna react and that's what happened So that's that and now if any of you heard that debate you want to call up and give you some comment feedback Hey, I'd love to hear it. Even if you were on this side of the other guy Hey, let's hear what you had to say as far as I'm concerned.

He wasn't able to To present his case at all. It was it was not very good All right. Let's get to Scott from Spokane. Hey Scott, buddy.

Welcome. You're on the air, man Hey, how's it going there? Oh, it's going I'm hanging in there.

What do you got man? Yeah, it's funny. You mentioned that I do have a question. But yeah, that debate was insane.

I was Cooking I do a breakfast in Bible study on Saturday mornings, and I was cooking breakfast, you know, everybody gets here We sort of hang out for a little bit before we start and I had that playing just in the background to rewatch it And you know people started coming into the house and they started sitting down watching it and man people were howling laughing just Almost yelling at the TV. What are you talking about? What what you know, it was uh, it was fun to watch for sure So yeah, it was he was He wasn't very good. Sorry, but I'm not trying to be mean he's a nice tough guy But you know he was yeah.

Oh and I and some of the quotes I got him in in our in our just afterwards discussion Whoo. Yeah, yeah Okay, anyway, go ahead, buddy Yeah, so I think I have two questions the first one is In Colossians chapter 4 Paul mentions for them to read the letter to that church in the lay of the sea in church And then he also says read the lay of the sea in letter to to them, I believe So I'm just wondering do we have any account of the let layer to see in letter or is that unknown? You know, it's it's lost It's gone.

Oh, that's too bad. Mm-hmm And what's interesting? I was just recently in lay of the sea We went to you know, I was a month ago I was in Europe and we went to the seven churches of Revelation in Turkey went to a load of Sia I've been there ten years earlier and they've really uncovered a lot of stuff now just as a hope just as a hope Maybe possibly I doubt it. Maybe possibly they might on earth a Pot someplace that it has a letter to lay to see you in it. You never know but That's what we have so far Okay, okay.

Yes, I cut my eye. I was like I never never wondered about that But another one would be in 2nd, John 1-1 I believe it's the first verse I Don't have it in front of me But my question that I wrote down was could he be speaking of Mary and James Jesus's mother and brother? There are different theories about who is speaking of now It says in that verse the elder to the chosen lady and her children whom I love in truth And not only I but also who know the truth so It's I would I'm gonna say it logistically it's possible, but we can't know unless there's something else from a very very early church father that says this is known among the churches as a reference to Then it would be it'd be strong evidence for that.

But other than that, I can't tell you Okay You know, I have my list here. I haven't looked at it in a while I got one more and I really don't remember the context of this but if you'd like it's a second King 719 And the question I wrote was look at their 719 Okay Then the royal officer answered the man of God and said now behold if the Lord should make windows in heaven Could such a thing be and he said behold you will see it with your own eyes, but you will not eat of it. Okay Yeah, so the question I wrote down was what does he mean windows in heaven? Because it says it a few times in the next few chapters as well. I think So, you know generally what it's what if you're saying here It looks like it might be something Having an access in a realm into the heavenlies No Make a window in it if the Lord should now it's hypothetical was called a counterfactual if he wants to do this a potentiality could have such a thing be and well if you want a but it's gonna happen so So, so that's what it looks like So I'm not knowing the context Which had Jordan behold full of clothes equipment and an inverse That's what it's and so what happened to him for the people trampled on him at the gate and he died Wow So it looks like the Lord should make windows in heaven.

That's interesting I don't look at that and see windows in heaven and see how the phrase is used in other places But it looks like a judgment of God upon that guy because he died afterwards. Yeah Hmm. Okay. Well good. I think that's all I got Okay, and window windows of heaven in heaven occurs in second Kings 7 to also The royal officer and the king is leaning answered the man of God and said behold. Oh, that's the same thing.

You'll see it I'm eat of it. Oh That's interesting. It is a different verse. Let's go elsewhere and Don't see anything with plural windows as second King 7 2 and second King 7 19 So what if I really just put in window of heaven window in heaven?

And see if it has anything. Nope window of heaven. I like doing stuff like this And that doesn't seem to have I take that wrong doesn't seem to have anything there either Window in heaven. Let's try that and and that's it So just it looks like the phrase only occurs in those two places.

So And it looks like in 7 second King 7 19 is talking about judgment So it'd be worth reading the context and see because the guy died right after that. That's what it says fulfilled. Okay? Okay, cool Yeah, okay Well good, all right Good anything else? No, I think that's it You know, I think I got one more but I forgot to write down what first it was So the question isn't gonna make much sense. So yeah, I'll just save up till the next time. Okay, you have there you go, buddy Thanks a lot.

Okay, then. There's yeah, I appreciate it. All right, then God bless Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages, please.

Stay tuned You can do it. It's Matt slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276 here's Matt slick All right, buddy. Welcome back to the show if you want you can give me a call.

It is easy 877-207-2276 sorry about the audio problem I had selling it out because I forgot to sent to to do one thing and it's on my end. So that happens All right. Now we have nobody waiting which Often is the case like I said if you watched the debate either live or Afterwards you want to give some feedback, please. Let me know Also, I've got a debate coming up Let's see, I got a debate coming up I get my calendar up let you guys know what's going on I've got another one couple two of them coming up. I think people like to debate me, you know, it's interesting. Let's see calendar Google calm I've got a debate coming up on Let's see This Friday the 6th.

I'll be debating Does the Old Testament imply the Trinity and then? next week on the 12th I'll be debating Let's see. Where's exact title does scripture support Mary's intercessory role in heaven and That'll be interesting The guy originally wanted to debate me on To the church fathers, you know affirm Mary's intercession and I don't care about that But I said not debating that here's something out of the Bible But also on the 12th, we're gonna have a guy on the radio as Stan Wallace. He's gonna I'm gonna interview him and Normally I don't do a lot of those but I'm gonna tell you it'll be an interesting discussion it'll be a little heady in some areas, but It's a discussion on on The nature of the soul. It's gonna be good what the soul is Detection of its ramifications about the doctrine. It'll be interesting. It'll be interesting. So Let's get to Richard from North Carolina Richard welcome you are on the air Thank you there brother, I was just wondering if when the rapture happens And he says the dead in Christ shall rise first and then those who are alive will come Will everybody hear the trumpet or just to save people?

That's a good question. It says a trumpet of God will will sound this is at a first Thessalonians 4 16 you're talking about Right, and so with the trumpet of God the dead in Christ will rise first. Will everybody hear that trumpet? I'm not so sure. Let me see because we go to Matthew 24 it says Matthew 24 31 After the tribulation it says he'll send forth his angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together his elect from the four winds So it doesn't say exactly when Or I mean, it's gonna be who's gonna hear that trumpet, but that's a really good question So, let me do some more.

Yes. I've always wondered And so What I'm doing is a search for the word trumpet and Let me do this. I'm gonna find the exact word four five three six in Greek And then what I can do Is this four five three six I can find exactly how many times it's referenced in the New Testament and every and where? So it says Matthew 24 31. He'll send his angels with a great trumpet They'll gather the elect and first Corinthians 14 8 if the bugle produces a distinct sound so that doesn't work.

Oh Here we go. Now in first Corinthians 15 52 in a moment the twinkling of the eye at the last trumpet For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised in perishable. We shall be changed There's the same thing there. So the Rapture is the last trumpet which happens after the tribulation period Right there. We're proving that come from the scriptures and let's see that'll upset some people and Hebrews 12 19 and to the blast of the trumpet the sound I'm looking for suffer related to the what's called the eschaton. I Was in the spirit on the Lord's Day Now the Lord's Day this day that they had judgment But it could also be the return of Christ or and it could be separate days or it could be the same day It's a whole nother discussion with a loud voice does the same thing there and revelation for one a Door standing open the first voice which I heard sound like a sound of a trumpet speaking to me. It wasn't that eight to Seven trumpets were given them to seven angels And that would be interesting to see what it says in verse six prepared themselves to sound verse 13 Whoa, whoa Whoa to those who dwell on the earth because of the remaining blast of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound and the last reference Saying in the sixth angel with the trumpet released the four angels were bound at the great river Euphrates So it doesn't say if everyone's gonna hear it or not Well, that's a really good.

Okay. That's a good question. Yeah, I've always wondered You know, so let's talk about this a little bit because it's interesting Who are the trumpet for that we could say the trumpet is for the heavenly the heavenly realm We know that we know that it's in the heavenly realm Might it also be for the people near where Christ is coming back in Jerusalem? maybe Maybe the trumpets will be for everybody to hear all over the world. And that's what I've heard is That's what I've seen people say that it's all gonna be all over the world and everybody's gonna hear it Now this is a cursory or very fast Examination of it, but if I were to write an article on it I would look up the word trumpet synonyms in the Bible for it. I do a more exhaustive study it takes me, you know a couple three four hours and Then to find out if it implies that everyone will be able to hear it or not But from what I've seen now, it doesn't look like it But not necessarily just doesn't mean it's just I'm saying most just the people that are saved It doesn't say who just says there be trumpet sound. Okay So I can't say only the people who are Christians will hear it though. It's certainly possible I can't say everybody will hear it though.

It's possible So so far now, maybe someone out there who's listening has done a study on this. Maybe they know something that I don't Let me say I call me up and tell me look because there might be something in the Old Testament as well That's what you got to do to write a book. You know, and so if I were to go to The Old Testament and look up the word trumpet And Exodus, you know the word trumpet.

Let's see. It's Seventy seven eighty two and then what I this is how I study. Okay. I'm just telling you how I do it out loud So be seven eighty two and I do this And it occurs seventy two times Well, that's doable You know, I could look at each and every one of those seventy two locations and see if anything eschatological Occurs which would be in Zechariah For example and it occurs in Zechariah And the Lord will appear over them and his arrow will go forth like lightning and the Lord will blow His trumpet or blow the trumpet the Lord God will blow the trumpet interesting and will march in the storm winds of the south That's a war thing in Zechariah Trumpet against the battle cities, so then we go to Joel Oh sound the alarm of the holy mountain with all the inhabitants of the land tremble for the day the Lord is coming So all the inhabitants of the land, so if we're to say that that is Let's just say hey Is that the same trumpet if it is then it says all the inhabitants of the land now if I say what land? The whole earth if I said that Then we got something but if it says the inhabitants of that land in the holy mountain, it seems to be localized So you see it's just a lot there, and we can't quickly solve it Well, that's a really good question right all right So good for you, okay? All right, well if you ever find out let me know Alright, God bless appreciate it.

There's a break. We got to go Hey folks want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six You It's Matt slick live taking a call at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six here's Matt slick Everybody welcome to the show welcome back. I'm just going through some emails and some interesting stuff and Maybe I'll talk about this one This is kind of interesting, but in the meantime if you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two Seven six now by the way folks just want to give you a heads up During December we're doing a matching funds drive We have a donor who is going to match whatever it is that you give so if you give $25 He'll match another 25 if you give a hundred that's not 100 So that's for the month of December and just let you know up to midnight.

I think it's our time which is You know because we're Mountain time And Eastern time is to our difference, but nevertheless That's where it is. We do and whether it comes in in the make an appeal box or In an electronic thing we're just getting you know letting you know and if you want to have it some information on how to do That just go to forward karm.org forward slash donate real easy to do it Let me do that right now make sure it's up We've been changing so many things on the site we've been modifying and adjusting just want to make sure that One of us who's doing that hasn't accidentally dealt with that and it's still there, so There you go. Yeah, all the information. You need is right there praise God All right, now. Here's something interesting in an email could we have no callers waiting looked at the email it says It seems as if the Christian Church is not in touch with the full Signal being sent through the biblical passages that include certain strange number call outs in both the new and Old Testament for example your web page mentioning 153 fish from John 21 11 Seems to ignore a symbolism related to the very number itself now I'm more specific and a lot of people are I wouldn't say you're ignoring it that means you're aware of it And then you don't want to talk about it that assumes that we know, but we don't want to know about it, that's ignoring something and So that's not the right word to use it seems you might be Unaware of this will be the way to to say it might be possibly instead of saying you're ignoring it Which is an intentional thing? so Seems to be ignoring symbolism related to the very number itself as illustrated below, which is interesting because 153 fish Is really interesting I didn't see this before but apparently You can take the numbers and put them in rows and like a pyramid, and it works exactly interesting It's got a picture of it. I have to check it out though similar numbers also Appear in the New Testament yes He lists a few each of these numbers are called out separately sort of like When someone mentions something and then stomps their foot is okay? These see the symbolic representation of the 153 12 is double triangle gap, okay? Interesting It's just I'm just reading through it because it didn't have time to go through the whole thing during the break so Yeah, I see, but I'm not it okay I'll just have to leave that because a lot of times when people will do with these is In my opinion they read too much into them.

I don't know if that's what's happening. I have to go through this slowly and Five to the fourth so five factorial. I don't know I could look at the butter time. Yeah, that's okay That is okay. Hey, how about I do this?

How about I get something? Don't have a hate mail left It's a new hate mail. I hope it's a new hate mail. I love hate mail I get lots of hate mail or hate speech from that group on Clubhouse though the hate hate group oh And you know what they said something that's not true. They said I'm trying to dox them That's not true, and if they're listening.

I don't know or might later. I'm not trying to dox them Don't want to do that. I don't think that's right thing to do I would like to talk to the elders of a couple of three people in that church So to have the elders be involved with what they're doing That's all talk to the elders and say so-and-so is saying these things. It's you know you need to look into these things and I've had this kind of an issue before with people where They're just obstreperous recalcitrant Really bad a vitriolic. It's just horrible, and I'll say let me talk to your elders You know what church you go to and they won't tell me And I've had some say what church you go to and I say here's the phone number Here's you can call if they know me here.

It is right there within 30 seconds. I can say here's a number here It is call my elders go ahead. I say good. I'm willing cuz I don't I don't hide anything. That's it What are your elders and they won't tell me? That's really interesting when someone does not want to have their elders examine What they're doing in a godly way? And they don't want that to happen and they refuse to have the elders involved Because all I would say is they are saying lots of hateful things and Saying things are just not true I can give you quotes From the things they've said and who said it would you be willing to look at it to see about? You know whether or not they're being godly according to scriptures that would be what I'd say that would be the extent of it and With the elders right back and say we've examined them.

Everything's fine That's their opinion if they say we've examined them and yeah, we're talking to about it. Okay good you know, that's fine, but no and the hate group and often would hate groups do and And think about the news the leftist news now. I'm gonna say something here this check this out hate groups Often don't hear what you say.

They hear what they want to hear. They what they think you mean so a good example is I Forgot who it was when Trump said You know put the have guns pointing at this one woman and the whole context was put her out there in the battlefield It's easier to to say that you know you want to have someone go out there and die in battle while you're sitting in Your comfort of your office getting paid a lot making lots of money and in trades of stocks And he says put you out there He said have the guns pointed at you and what they would do the left would do is they see he wants her to be Shot and killed that's not it and so the hate groups. It's what it's like a narrow filter When you have hate in your heart and mind about another group individual theology, whatever it is The hate becomes it's like a think of it as a tunnel a very narrow tunnel, but they themselves have devised they themselves have Have constructed let's just say and it's so narrow that they only allow certain kinds of facts to pass through their very narrow view of things and so when you have is called myopic rigidity when you have Someone a group like that, and they have a very narrow I call it the cult mind Have a very narrow view of things that everything gets filtered through the narrow view the narrow tunnel and How can I illustrate this a little bit more if you have you know if you can see 90 degrees You can see a lot more information but if you have a piece of paper with a pinhole in it you only see a little bit and if you only see a little bit because you yourself have Narrowed the view the viewfinder and and the thing then everything else falls away only those things you direct your attention to That's that's what I'm saying, okay, and That's what they do I hate groups do so that's what they left does I watched a lot of the news from CNN and MSNBC I've watched this stuff and see what their clips are people saying things that they're saying and it was just ridiculous and It's happened to me in fact it happened to me Was it last night or not before and I went into this chat room and in this chat room I I These people were saying something about me I said that's not what I'm saying and I was trying to have a discussion with them And this happens in a lot of rooms when they hate what I stand for Then they're not interested in discussion or interested in controlling discussion and the only things allowed to filter through their narrow view is their agenda and so What happened in what it's just a discussion. I'm just remembering what happened in one of the discussions was that I said Such-and-such, and they muted me said no you can't talk about that We only want you to talk about this And I said I want to answer the way I want to answer have my reasons and they stopped me from answering They said no you can only say yes, or no. We're not gonna let you answer it was this kind of thing and Then they would they would go in and this is kind of typical of hate groups They would go and they're not making statements see Matt can't answer Matt this Matt that and that happens I'm not whining about myself.

Oh, you know I'm not narcissistic here. I'm just saying this is typical of of hate groups that they narrow the view field and Only what they want to be allowed to be seen is Is how they operate it's how they work and And then they they judge you by what they have allowed to come through Anyway, that's what it happens. Okay, hey, you know and I'm interested in this more and more because I'm thinking this may be about writing a book dealing with the cult mind And what to do about it Because I see it in the Christian Church, and I see it in in Politics I see it in the cults.

I see it in all kind of things you know And I'm guilty of that let's say I have a view problem my wife might be upset about something and this what happens is that in anger the view Narrows the view fight field narrows, and you only focus on what you want to focus on nothing else matters We're all kind of guilty of it, but at least for the cult minds and hate groups. Oh boy. I find it interesting. Hey, there's the music I'll be right back after these messages. Give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

Here's Matt Slick Everybody welcome to the show welcome back So you know this is interesting. I I've been collecting some notes on the cult mind and At First I wasn't gonna do anything with it because I didn't think was that big a deal But people are been telling me that I need to write something on the cult mind so a Couple three weeks ago. I guess I don't know I started just collecting some notes, and I'm gonna go through some of the notes And maybe it's interesting maybe it's not I don't know let's see um Often in the cult mind.

This is from my experiences. Okay. These are these are these are my experiences I've had with people who have cults are in cults like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science Unity and things like that and then broader broader religious based systems like Eastern I've missed me orthodoxy or Roman Catholicism Islam And I've noticed a commonality between them Now please understand when I'm talking about this. I'm not saying I have it all down right now.

I'm fine. I'm not saying that but these are the things that I've observed and When I write stuff like this I just think how much am I guilty of these things I have to be careful this as well Because it forces me to examine myself as well, but nevertheless Here's some of the things I've come up with Um when confronted with the truth they ignore it Or try and change a topic. That's just one thing that they do They submit most of one's reasoning to an authority their church now That's very prevalent in the Eastern Orthodox in the Roman Catholics extremely prevalent there whatever their church says because their church is the final authority not the Word of God and And they're often very loyal to an organization more than Jesus now I see that in Mormonism that they're more loyal to the restored Church The LDS Church is the restored Church is true Joseph Smith a true prophet. They're loyal to that the ideology more than Christ They subject all things through the cult mind worldview So you know different groups they're gonna have a worldview like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses Doesn't matter what you say that when I was in Greece a few weeks ago I met some Jehovah's Witnesses and spoke to them in English Well one guy is English was which was decent and it was very very clear to me at that time And this is happened to me with talking to Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years That the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is the way the truth in the life it tells them What to think and therefore all things are brought through and interpreted through the overarching system? That is above them that they submit to Another thing that happens is isolation isolating themselves from counter evidence and people Who don't have the right view now There's wisdom in it if you're in the truth You don't want to be hanging out with bad people, but what I notice is in bad cults. There's there different levels of cults that That in the really bad ones That's interesting here. I'm gonna put this in here Oh, the really bad ones are absolutely mind control and that you're not allowed to think outside their worldview And if you do you could be shunned And they're punished okay, so There are actually They're actually brainwashing techniques There's brainwashing techniques. I'm gonna write more about that. We got a call or I'm gonna get to the caller But they're brainwashing techniques.

I can go over some of them as well Anyway, let's get to let's get Linda from chart whoops. I could hit the right button come on close that Linda from Charlotte, North Carolina North Carolina Linda welcome you're on the air Hi, Matt. I just heard a preacher. That's on right before you I was Sleeping and woke up to something that really upset me I just sounded like blasphemy to me, and I just wanted to ask you and he said that That Jesus is a combination of half Mary and half You know God the other half is God if that was true Jesus would be sinful and Jesus was God. He's not sinful It was my understanding that the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and put that in her womb And she was more like an oven not that she's half that not that Jesus is half Mary genetics and Yeah, let's go over this. Let's go over this a little bit more So to say half and half is not correct But I understand because what he's saying is the whole of Christ is comprised of two natures One of those natures is divine one of those natures is human We have two natures that comprise of totality in that sense you could say half and half It's not a good way to say it. It's just not he should say to be more accurate he has two distinct simultaneous natures a divine nature and a human nature and They are what makes up the one person and then you explain more details Yeah, that's fine Okay, but he actually said The genetics of it is like Mary's egg mixed with You know God the other half of it Okay, so what happened is Mary's ovum her egg was fertilized by God We don't know how it works, but it was fertilized by God was activated and at this point The hypostatic union occurred the union of the divine I would say at that point I mean, I don't know for sure But what assume at that point the the human and divine nature were together in union in that that That egg is it as it began because it's human life Now We're gonna step sideways here a little bit Sin does not enter the world through the woman but through the man Adam and Eve were in the garden. She sinned first, but sin entered the world through Adam Romans 5 12 says sin under the world through one man, but she was in the world and she sinned first so There's a there's a doctrine called federal headship. It's the teaching that the male not the female but the male Represents a descendants. So we see this taught in different verses, but one of them is 1st Corinthians 15 22 in Adam I'll die All right So what we're seeing here is it looks like the sin nature is passed down through the father because the father has the representative aspect through the legal and biological line so the sin nature was not passed down to through Mary because she's female and Didn't enter into Christ. This this is a the working theory that I go with and I thought about over We're about it stuff. So, okay.

Could I just ask please? What about the verse? In sin, did my mother conceived me? You know, you're coming down through the line and Mary's just a regular person like all the people before and after her Even though she was very special lady, obviously But okay, so what you're talking about is Psalm 51 5 in sin. My mother conceived me So this is David probably David's almost writing about himself not about Jesus So we have to this is why I tell people I try and teach theology. I compartmentalize and then once I can specifically I Specifically teach them a doctrine I and I specifically teach them another and get very narrow in each doctrine and then we step it take a step back and say now let's relate them to each other and Then they go. Oh I get it and because I've been doing this for so long You know of 44 years and 45 years, you know in at the end of the year here I just switch I would say, you know, make sure the 45 years so I've been doing this for so long I've taught theology so many times to debate it.

I can see how it fits together in my mind Oh, I see how this relates to that release of this but people can't do that until they understand the specifics. So for example Sin entered the world through one man Adam not Eve. She sinned first Federal headship is a teaching that the male represents a descendants not the female Representation of them is in him. So for example you go to Romans 5 19 And what it says there is as through one man's disobedience the many Were made sinners. So we were made sinners by what Adam did that's called original sin Okay, it's not the woman So now we can you know, just it hop sideways and say now Mary She conceived but she didn't have relations with Joseph at this point So the conception was by the work of the Holy Spirit So there's no biological Descendancy through the male. So therefore it would appear to be that sin is transferred down through the male He's a representative a federal headship. It didn't happen in the case of Mary and through Christ.

So therefore he doesn't have a sin nature So may I ask one more question? So what you're saying is that Or what I got from what he said is that Jesus would be half Mary No, you know her Characteristics, whatever those are like no. No. No.

No. Yeah Yeah, he's not saying it properly I understand what he means but he needs to understand how to say things the right way because it can cause problems He's not half married because Mary's a person. He's half of a female person That doesn't make any sense. He needs to say things like this He's one person with two natures a divine nature and a human nature the nature that's human is is completely human and nature that's divine is completely divine and The attributes of both natures are ascribed to that one person of Christ. That's called the communicatio Idiomatum and then just just talk like that Instead of saying half this half that half Mary half it. No, no, no, no, don't talk like that It causes problems and it's inaccurate Okay So it but so you were saying it was Excuse me, Mary's egg So yes, the human part. Yes, okay All right, I guess that's what threw me off All right.

Thank you for your time. I appreciate it Because Jesus is a man he still is too and when he was born he's born he had to suckle He had to go to the bathroom. He had to grow he had to eat. He had to take naps.

He sweat He's really a man. Well, where did this come from? It came biologically down through Mary the sin nature did not It came down through the male, but there was no official biological male involved in the conception So therefore it appears to be the case that the the sin nature was not Continued through to her.

I mean to Jesus through her Okay Okay. Yes. He needed to explain that a little better because I just started crying I mean, it's just like what, you know, and he has been off before on Homosexuality, so I thought hmm. I don't know about this. So I thank you because so thank you very much for explaining it to me All right, Merry Christmas when it gets here Bye-bye. All right All right. Hey, I love that. That's a good question. Good stuff.

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