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I mean, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick live. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. And also you can send me an email. That's easy to do.

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We have nobody waiting on the phones right now. So last night, for the second night in a row, I was invited in to discuss Reformed theology in a chat room. And so, you know, but yeah, but he was there listening. You want to call in, you can comment about it.

Not a big deal because we have slow calls on Fridays anyway. But here's the thing is, uh, I've rarely ever been treated that badly, um, by anybody, uh, including atheists, uh, you know, Mormon, Joe's witnesses, Catholics, uh, Muslims, uh, I have, I can't even think of, well, I haven't treated worse than these guys that was by the universalists, they, they, uh, they had stuff that was so bad. It was just, it was incredible the stuff they called me. These guys weren't that bad, but, uh, they were bad. They were horrible, uh, condescending, insulting. When they'd ask a question, there was an insult in it.

Uh, you know, why did the cowardice always deceive people when they say so such, it's just stuff like this. And I said, what, what are you talking about? And, uh, they said, uh, they said that the God of Calvinism is evil.

And like, what were you, were you getting all this stuff? And then one, uh, one thing, for example, they said, does God decree everything? I said, can you define what you mean by decree? And they couldn't define it.

They just don't understand what God makes it happen. I said, well, there's a sense in which he directly causes or indirectly permits it. So both of those are within the decree of God and that he, uh, will permit people to do things against him, but they can't occur unless he permits it to occur within his sovereign plan. And I said, so the decree is by direct and indirect means. And they said, oh, so you think God decrees evil, doesn't he?

You're saying that I already get that man says he, he decrees is evil. And it's like, are you guys not listening? And this is how it went rapid. And then we did an after show afterwards. And, uh, people came in and they said, I guess you didn't know, man, how bad these guys, I didn't know. I didn't know if I didn't know it. I wouldn't have bothered, but they, but some things did happen out of it.

There are people in that room, chat room, who, who were saying, you guys are treating, you know, Matt and also got him Scott, he may call, I don't know. Uh, he was in there. He did pretty well.

He's reformed also. He did really well. And, uh, even people, uh, even an atheist was listening, said he couldn't believe how badly they acted.

It was pretty bad. So, uh, they actually banned me. I said, I couldn't come back in and talk when I said to one of them, he's your total depravity showing and boom, that's it, we're not talking to you anymore. It's such whining babies. So my, my daughters have a name for people like that. They call them man babies. I love that term.

I call them diaper Indians, you know, and, uh, but they're man babies cause they're diaper Indians. And, uh, so that's what was going on. Oh, but man, and also this one guy, he says, he said, Jesus, boy, they said, if everybody ever lived, and I said, really, he's sure, which the first day of the three 14 read, you know, say, and I quoted it to him, uh, where God says, um, this is, I get a kick out of this. God says, I've sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquities of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.

I said, so, so, so I said, I said, I've sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquities of Eli's house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever forever, but I said, Jesus, did Jesus, I said, so did Jesus, did Jesus bear their sin? He said, you said, of course he did. I said, really? He says, you got the context wrong. I said, okay, what's the context. He goes, well, let's read it.

So you don't know the context, otherwise you wouldn't say, let's go read it. Didn't he think, so he finally admitted what these guys admitted. He says, yeah, okay.

Didn't buy do that. That's an exception. He said, so, so improved my point is you admit it's an exception to me to admit he didn't bear the sin of everybody ever lived. Right. And the way you make a big deal.

He's saying that's like everybody said, that's not what I said. Oh man, these guys were just man babies. Oh, you know, I get a kick out of this stuff. You know, I got issues, but I, I love hate mail.

I love wacko mail. I love it when people are just obstreperous to point, you know, and, uh, and then they get, they get, uh, they get uppity uppity. That's what it is.

And he didn't like being cornered. And then at one point I said, okay, so plush is two 14, you know, and do you just cancel the sin debt at the cross? And they go, yeah, that's right. That's what it says.

It can't listen. This is, this is what the one guy actually said. He said, I've said, well, wait a minute now. So he canceled everybody's sin debt, right? Yes.

All of it. Right. Everybody.

Yes, that's right. Everybody. I said, except for the house of Eli, he said he got mad at me for bringing that up. And I said, so he, everybody, okay, forget the house of Eli.

So everybody said it's canceled, right? It said, then why does anybody go to hell? Long pause because I said, their sin doesn't, it's not existing anymore.

It's all, it's all gone. Right. And what kind of receive it? Oh, so then you're saying that the power of the cross depends on what you do.

How would you receive it? Oh, they didn't like that either. And, um, so I said, so, uh, they canceled what, what happens or the sin that's canceled at the cross.

Did it cancel for everybody? They said, yeah. They said, then how can, can anybody go to hell? And he said, cause they sinned some more crickets, crickets, even the crickets are looking at each other like, what, what do you say?

What was that? I mean, these answers were, Oh man, they were bad. And, uh, so that thing, I think it's why they kicked me out because they didn't like getting pinned left and right while they're calling me a heretic, but, but wait a minute, how can I be a heretic if you're the one saying stupid things? I didn't say that, but it was, it was, uh, they were, it's called stupidification from the man babies. Oh man, you see, I have fun with stuff like this. Okay, wait a second.

You use that word, man, rather liberally. That's what Humble Clay says at the chat room. Now speaking of which, if you want to join us in the chat room, it's easy.

He's going to rumble rumble.com forward slash Matt slick live and all one word. And you'll, you'll find, you can get in there and get in the chat and the people we've been in there, oh, they've been in there for a long time and, uh, they get a little bit, uh, confident in their slight insults deliver towards me. Sometimes, you know, they'll say the big jokes and stuff. It's all good.

We don't have a lot of fun in there. Uh, the light at the end of the tunnel was an oncoming slick train. Yeah, I liked that one too. That's pretty good.

Humble Clay's got some good stuff. He does pretty well in the chat room. The chat room, let's see. Randall said before I left, I told them they weren't acting like Christians. They were mean and that they needed to apologize to you guys and repent to God. Yeah, that's true. That is true. Oh yeah.

Last night was pathetic. That's what one guy says. Call in. We can talk about it.

And that doesn't talk about the nice Friday Fridays are loose. So, uh, there you go. Being banned by morons is a compliment. Okay. Uh, let's see. So, uh, I didn't leave, see it live, showed up late and thumb through it.

They acted like liberal lefties. Uh, yeah. So you take it. Well, Matt, that's what Laura says. Well, you know, I, it's just, it's interesting to me how people can so badly demand babies.

They're diborinians. You can't talk to me like that because it's truth and I don't have an answer. So I'm going to get rid of you.

See, that's how they handle it. All right. I guess I'm making myself have a good time. I don't know about anybody out there, but I'm cracking up having a good time. All right.

I think when we have no callers, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. So let's try this. Let's get to, um, some of the emails, email questions. And, uh, I like his name.

I tease this guy. His name is Bill. Cannot.

And I said, what can I do? And, uh, you know, at any rate, I'm sure he's never heard that. So, Matt, what are your thoughts on this? Something I just recently thought about when we die and even our physical brain and our spirit are disconnected, and yet there is some sort of consciousness gets, you know, over that little bit already. My thought, could the brain merely be a sort of conduit between the physical brain and the spirit, uh, the physical brain being a conduit to the spirit, that's what it means. And the spirit evidence that we have and the scientific evidence that we have of different parts of the brain working, lighting up are merely the physical communication with the spirit. Yes. Now this is, that's a good point. Good question.

There's actually a lot of, there has been a lot of discussion even among secularists. How is it that the brain can affect the mind and what is that mind? And, and, uh, uh, an injury can affect your, um, your, your understanding of stuff.

And I've mentioned this before. I had a friend back in San Diego and, um, uh, he had a brain injury that they had to do surgery on his brain or something. And afterwards, his friends told me this, that he became a Jew.

He was a Christian and then lost his faith in Christianity and became a Jew. And this had happened immediately after the brain surgery. Yeah, I'm not saying one connected to the other, but it was interesting. So, um, what is the relationship between the, uh, the mind and the spirit?

Uh, can they affect each other? These are just discussions that people have had, and we don't know all the answers to that. It's just good stuff though, to talk about. All right. Um, the car people left when Matt was back boated. Oh, that thing last night. Yeah, I left several comments in the YouTube thread. Yeah, good. They acted really badly.

They did. All right, let's get to another question. Let's see.

How about this? Can you please define sin nature and explain how humanity inherits sin because of Adam? Well, that's a good question. What is a sin nature? We have a human nature. So Adam had a human nature, had, uh, still is human.

Now, but here's the thing. When Adam was made, before he fell, he was in a physical body and he had a human nature that was not fallen after he sinned, he was still human, but there was an effect upon that humanity in that now it was fallen. So what we have here are basically the difference between what's called essential and accidental properties. An essential property is necessary to the thing, but the accidental properties are not necessary. A sin nature is an accidental property, not an essential property.

Let me explain. An essential property of a circle is it's roundedness, but all circles have roundness without exception. So an accidental property would be the diameter of a circle because the wall circles have a diameter, the diameter can change. You can have a diameter circle, one meter in diameter or half a meter or a mile or an inch, it doesn't matter. And so the, the distance or the length of the diameter is an accidental property. It's still part of the circle, but it can vary and one circle can have a diameter of 10 inches. Another circle will not have that diameter, but it's still a circle.

It could have five inches. So that's a difference. That's what accidental and essential is. So the essential property to the human nature is whatever that stuff is, that's human, human, but the accidental property would be our fallenness. Now, and we know this because Adam was human before and after he died, he was before and after the fall. So how do we inherit Adam's sin? It's because he represented us in federal headship. He was the one who was our ancient father.

He sinned and then his fallen nature produces other fallen natures biologically and spiritually. And that's how that works. And there's a music. We'll be right back after these messages. Why don't you give me a call?

877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody.

Welcome back to the show on this slow Friday. Nobody's calling in. Why don't you be the first?

877-207-2276. All right. As a heads up, I'll be on the radio all next week. And after that, I'm off for three weeks. We'll be doing reruns for three weeks from October, roughly seventh to the 27th, 28th, whatever. I'm going to go into Europe. I'm going to be doing a Bible lands tour. So I'll not be on the air for that period of time. And I'll be checking out different countries, doing the footsteps of Paul. And so looking forward to that and we're gonna have a great, good time.

Been prepping, getting stuff ready and all of that. So if you have questions and comments before then, well, call now. Call next week, whatever it is, and we can, we can blab.

So the number again is 877-207-2276. Now we can get back to the issue of, what is the emails here? Some of the emails. Now that was Jennifer who was asking that question.

She asked a previous one, I think the day before, an email. It was a good question too. And it is a good question. So, um, would any human have chosen to disobey God in the garden of Eden? If it wasn't Adam or Eve, I believe the answer is yes. The reason I believe this, this is my opinion. Have you disagree? That's uh, that's okay.

Okay. So I believe that only God has the quality, the necessary essential property of holiness. We do not, and holiness belongs to God's nature alone is essential to his essence. And so he cannot sin. He cannot do what is wrong, but that is part of his divine nature. When he makes us, we don't possess holiness or divinity because holiness is part of his divine nature. Therefore, because of that lack in us, and it can't be part of us, then when he makes us in his image, then we will sin.

Not because he makes it the case, but because in our freedom, this is my opinion, that it's just a matter of time before we blow it. Because we don't have all wisdom, all knowledge, and know what is right and wrong the way God does. We also don't possess the holy nature that God does.

So it's almost a necessity that will fall. Not that God is making us do that, but I just think there's something related to the issue of we don't have divinity and we can't because it would mean that God is making little gods and it doesn't happen. So I'm thinking that's why anybody would have sinned. I just think they would have. I just think they would have, and part of the answer, I'm going to find this verse again, it is here in 1 Timothy 5 21.

I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of his chosen angels to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality. So chosen angels, I think what that means is my opinion again. I think what that means is that they were the angels chosen by God not to fall when Satan fell and that God did something to them, worked in them. I don't know what it is, but enabled them or I don't know, I can't even say, so that they wouldn't sin. And that's what I think is going on there. And so that's why I say, yes, I believe that they would have sinned.

Everybody would have eventually. And so she says, I'm a Christian, but I struggle feeling it's unfair that all humans automatically have sin nature because of Adam and Eve, who disobeyed God first and brought sin in. I feel bad, I think this because I'm okay. So think about this, that the way Jesus died for our sins, it wasn't fair for him to be beaten, wasn't fair for him to go to the cross. And there representing us, he purchased our redemption, and it wasn't fair, but it's what was good, it's what was logistically right in order for us. Well, the same thing with Adam, sin entered the world through one man, Adam, Romans 5, 12. So he was our federal head, our representative, just as the last Adam, 1 Corinthians 15, 45, that's Jesus, was the one who represented us.

So because Adam's representative ability was because of Christ's representative ability, that's what I believe. All right. Okay. Hey, now let's see you on the next question here.

If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. All right. So, I got a notice, Cynthia's calling the show, but no one is answering. Okay. Maybe I'm talking to the producers, the producers didn't know that, maybe they don't know if something's up, if there's a problem, I don't know. So what we can do is if she wants to type in in the chat room, I think she's in the chat room over there, let's see.

Yeah, type in her question in the chat and get to it, we can do it that way too. All right. So maybe there's an issue with the phones and that's why.

So let's see, did you hear, let me take this out, that callers aren't being answered? Okay. Let's see. Okay. So now let's get to another email in the meantime. How about this?

Matt, love your show. What is your stance on vaccinations? I think some vaccinations are very good. I think some vaccinations are not very good, specifically the HPV hepatitis B. I have no idea.

A certain job employer wants their employees to have this and I'm on the fence about this one. All right. So here's the thing. When I was working at a hospital and coming in contact with sick people, they required in order to work at the hospital, they required certain shots and inoculations. And I agreed to it.

I have no problem with that. And one of the reasons was because I didn't want to get infected, but also did not want to infect others who are sick. One of my jobs, I had two interesting jobs at the hospital in San Diego that I did for a few years.

I enjoyed it. And, um, one was registering patients in the emergency room. And so a lot of people come in and we do it in Spanish and, uh, you meet people who are sick, people who, you know, I got some stories, interesting stuff. Uh, and so we don't want, don't want to get them sick. Maybe they come in, they're just, their immune system is run down. So vaccination for me is a good idea to not get them sick.

And, uh, if they're have some germs, because a lot of them, I'll just say it this way. They were a little illegals. We didn't turn them in or anything. They came for help. We just helped them. And a lot of them were illegals.

You could tell, and who knows what country they came from and what diseases they might have. So this was a legitimate concern. I was also a transporter. So I take people in and out of operating rooms to the morgue, uh, rooms, uh, for, for, uh, procedures to be done, transporting them.

And so a lot of times these people would be in, in, uh, you know, weakened conditions. So it was smart for me to be inoculated, take those vaccinations so that, um, uh, there wouldn't be problems with them. So, yeah, I don't have any problem with that kind of stuff. Uh, now if it's just, you know, you're going to work, uh, delivering mail. I don't think it's necessary, but whatever. This employer is a security guard company contacting, working for an urgent care branch of a large hospital.

See, I would think that would be okay because you're going to come in contact with people at hospitals and urgent cares and things like that and help info would be greatly appreciated. So that was, that's just my opinion. Uh, I'm not a doctor, not pretending to be one or anything like that.

I'm just a theologian. And if I had that job and they wanted me to take that, I'd go, yeah, okay. You know, I wouldn't have a problem with it. All right. So we had a caller coming in and, uh, okay, so there is a problem with the phones.

There is a problem with the phones. We'll work through it. We'll work through it. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned, be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, the phones are now working 877-207-2276. I called and tested on the, during the break and they said, Matt Slick live.

And I said, this is Matt Slick. It sounded funny. And, uh, they were, I don't know what happened, but now they're working. All right. So let's get on the phone with Jan from North Carolina. Jan welcome. You're on the air. Thank you very much for taking my call.

Mr. Slick. Sure. I have a question concerning, um, are you familiar with and what is your opinion on the infancy gospels of Thomas? It's a pseudo epigraphal document. It's an apocryphal document. It's not legit. It's not real. It's just something written later on.

Attributed to Thomas. Has it been in existence a long time? I'm sorry. What has it been? Has that document been in existence a long time? Or is that a relatively new thing?

Um, actually, I don't know. I don't know when it was first written. Uh, and first developed, uh, so, but, uh, these things are, they generally came in with the first few centuries within one, two, 300 years of Jesus, because he was Christianity was so popular.

It hurt so much that a lot of people were writing things about him and saying, Hey, we know about this. And they were trying to start their own religious movements and they wanted Jesus on their team. So that's what the gospel of Thomas is and the infancy gospel of Thomas and things like that. So it's probably written usually within one to 200 years of Christ, things like that, usually that's all they are. But no basis of truth, you don't think?

No. Well, you see the basis of truth there, there, I can't say there's no truth in it, but it's not, uh, scripture. It's not, uh, considered to be authentic. It could be that someone who wrote 150 years later knows something in the Bible and wrote about it. And so there's a truth in it. So that's what I'm saying is, is it's not considered a scripture.

Scripture. It's not inspired. Don't take it seriously. I hope you're not.

Do you have a reason for this? Um, I don't know what's going on. No, I was just curious about, I had talked about that with my pastor and I was like, what, are there any stories of Jesus, you know, as a child. And I was just curious, I said, you know, just thinking when you're having powers, you might not be fully aware of how to utilize that he might've done things that made his parents embarrassed or confused and things like that.

And I'm then, so I was looking things like the childhood of Jesus, of Jesus, of course, on YouTube, the infancy gospels popped right up. So yeah. Yeah. I would not, um, I wouldn't worry about it. And the Bible says, you know, it spoke of the 12 clay birds killing your friend and being accused and saying, come back to life and say, I didn't do that.

His father sent him to school, that kind of thing, you know, and he killed his teacher, you know, it was a, it was a really, that's why I'm asking you because it was a very odd thing. So yeah. Yes. So here's some scripture that'll help you out with this. So this is the account in Luke chapter two, when the family of Jesus went into Jerusalem to go to the temple and as would often happen, the families would be in a camel train, a walking train of people, a mules or whatever it would be. And this would be often quite long. And so, uh, the families were extended so your own child could be up 200 feet ahead, staying with friends or a cousin and they'd be with them all day or two days.

And it wasn't uncommon because we're so tight knit. So they've kind of lost contact with Jesus and uh, and stuff like that. They, you know, where are you and stuff like that. But at any rate, uh, he says, why are you looking for me? This is, uh, acts, I mean, uh, Luke two 49. Did you not know I'd be in my father's house when I finally got to Jerusalem and he did not understand the statement which he had made verse 51 and went and he went down with them and came to Nazareth and he continued in subjection to them and his mother treasured all these things in her heart.

So he remained in Nazareth and subjection to his mother and his father. He didn't go anywhere else. Wasn't all this stuff. Okay. Yeah.

That helped. So, you know, that, that's, that's an honest, I mean, that's something that can be verified. You can put your finger on that, you know, so it's nothing but to just, and I was, that's why I was searching for, for information. I thought it might be Gnostic and I wasn't sure. It's, it's just a Gnostic ring to it.

Right. It's just whacked. He's vengeful.

He's mean, you know, Jesus has portrayed that way. Uh, in that, yeah, that, that apocryphal document. Yeah. It was a very dark, it was dark. Yeah. It was a dark, dark view of Jesus.

You know, he teaches Maxine and instead of turning the other cheek, he killed him is not what I would expect. So yeah. It's something a Muslim would write, you know, Muslims would write. So I wonder who will read you, what religion or jet, you know, that does that originate from, who is that, you know, that they believe that and put that in their doctrine. Anyone?

No, nothing I'm aware of is, but there are some groups that will use the Gnostic gospels and they'll say they're true. And they're, you know, they just don't have all their positive litter box. You know, they don't know what's going on. Yeah. So it's more of a shocking, shock and awe kind of thing. A lot of it too. So, well, thank you for your information.

That is what I wanted to know. And, um, I will not be concerned with those 12 mud birds anymore. So yeah. Good.

Cause it didn't happen. All right. Exactly. Exactly.

It didn't happen. Exactly. Thank you. Thank you for your time.

I do appreciate I call you often and I always love your answers. So thank you very much. Well, good. I'm glad. All right. God bless you. Talk to you again soon. Thank you sir. And bye bye. All right. We have nobody waiting right now. If you want to give me a call, all we have to do is dial eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

And I tell what I'll do now is I'm going to get back to the, uh, emails, get some more emails here. Uh, here's one. What is up with all the Christians refusing to vote because both are wicked?

Maybe what's up with that? Why? Why should Christian vote? Uh, I'm voting for Trump.

People are telling me to repent because of communism. Oh man. Um, so, uh, I'm not sure I understand all the sentence structure, but, uh, Christians need to vote and the man, it's a tough one out there.

I would say do a hierarchical structure of who's the very worst at the bottom and then work your way up. I know whoever's left. It's about all you got. Okay. So, um, yeah, yeah, there's, there's more I can talk about, but I won't. All right. Let's try another one here.

I'm looking for a Bible study that could be used for a college campus Bible studies or reach the laws. Do you have your recommendations? You know, I know there's stuff out there like that.

I do. Um, but I don't know off the top of my head. However, if there was a ministry on a campus that needed something geared towards the college thing, I would be willing to write it. And one of the things I would ask is that the people who are going to administer it of give me feedback afterwards and or give me the kinds of questions that and the issues are there and I can cater a Bible study around that even though I do know the basics of what, what would happen in a college. I went to a secondary college for two years and Christianity was just openly attacked.

It was openly attacked. Um, I remember in a philosophy class, get this. So I needed, I was going to go to college in order to go to seminary. So I, you know, I was going to do my degree and, um, and so I went to this one college and I had to petition to get into the philosophy class. You've got to take philosophy part of whatever you got to do. And so I'm there in the very front row and I got my petition paper so that I can get in the class and the professor will sign it and you get, you know, you're already filled up.

He'll take a few extra. So he's there and this pompous pompous arrogant guy, he says, we're going to study this. We're going to study that. We're going to learn how to think. We're going to learn how to think properly and we're going to believe in truth.

Not like they do in the Bible. I'm like, what, what was that? Just a flat out unneeded, unnecessary attack. And, and I'm sitting there staring at the guy and, and uh, he, you know, I said, what, why, why, what? And he said, the Bible asks you to do things that are impossible.

It's ridiculous. And I said, like what? And he said, uh, be perfect. Your father in heaven is perfect. And I said, well, that's Matthew 5, 48. And the context, it starts in verse 43, where God says, love everyone equally. He lets the sun shine on the good and the rain on the good and the bad.

And I mean it's not on the good and the bad. And so he's saying, be perfect. Cause your father is, is in the context of loving everybody equally.

That, that's all that that is. And that's when I realized I made a big mistake because he didn't like being corrected in front of an entire class. And I just realized, oh, he's not going to let me in. And so sure enough, when it was time to get petitions signed, I went, I was the first one up. He said, we don't have any room. And I said, okay, thank you. And I walked back.

I turned around and he's signing petitions for others. This is the bigotry and arrogance that is prevalent in a lot of colleges. A lot of colleges, no joke, bigotry, hatred, ignorance, foolishness. And, uh, I might as well just tell you another story. So I'm in the same college, right? I ended up getting a philosophy class. I'll tell you what happened there too. But, uh, so I'm in a class, um, it's been a break coming up. This is good. This is, oh, you're gonna love this in a cultural anthropology class. What actually happened in the class?

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All right. So this is what happened in this class. I was just telling the story here is that, um, I was in this class, cultural anthropology, and the woman teacher was particularly hostile to Christianity.

She wasn't directly, but indirectly, you could tell by the things she's saying, and her attitudes and dismissive kind of comments and things like this, she would say various things. And I could tell, you know, and, uh, she was talking about how great evolution was, evolution, this evolution, that. So I, I decided to do some research on a particular hominid ancestor, the hominid ancestors like Australopithecus, uh, entropostosonai Neanderthals, things like that. And so I did, I picked one, I forgot which one it was, but I picked one. It was a common one and I, uh, I studied it and I discovered from the experts, the, these are the secularists. These are the guys with more degrees in the thermometer, like the, the curator of the British museum, you know, the things like this, you know, all these well degreed, well qualified people who said this particular hominid ancestor was not, uh, in the human line, that it was something else and it wasn't an ancestor. Just happened to find this information and it all documented and had it with me if per chance, maybe she might particularly pick on that, that, uh, hominid ancestor as a proof of evolution. About two weeks later, you won't believe it. She did exactly that one on my ice bugged out, like, are you kidding me?

This is like a dream come true for me. And so I had a documentation right there, my notebook, which I carried a notebook on my classes, all my notes and stuff. She was, you know, pontificating ancestor, blah, blah, blah, evolution is true, blah, blah, blah.

This is global. Okay. So I raised my hand and she called on me and I said, so, you know, I did some research.

Oh man. So I did some research. I said, and you mentioned this hominid ancestor. And I said, well, here, I have some quotes and this quote is from so-and-so and this quote is from that, you know, all these qualifications. And I said, there's not, it's not a human ancestor. It's not as this, they said, it's not, it's not enough. I mean, I made her look bad.

It wasn't intentional, but it was pretty obvious. She got caught. Okay. And I said, so what do you do with that? And she, oh, man, that face, you know, she was so upset with me, but she's trying to retain her composure. And she said in a semi monotone breathy voice, they're wrong, man, man.

I'm like, oh man, that's too good to be true. And so she started talking about how evolution is true and this hominid ancestor. And I raised my hand. Okay.

Oh man. And I raised my hand. I didn't get a chance to ask my question. But because, because for the entire class, for the rest of the class, you know, 20 minutes, a half hour, she wouldn't call on me. And I kept my hand in the air for this whole time. I just, I kept switching my arm cause I was getting tired. You know, I just, you know, I'm just polite. I didn't cause any trouble to have my hand up.

And the students are looking at me, you know, begging her like, what are you going to do with this guy? And I was going to, I was going to ask the question, you know, I was going to say, well, excuse me, but so you're a cultural anthropologist and not a biological evolutionist with the degrees in it. They said that it's not, why would you say that they're wrong? Why are you correct? And they're not, that's what I was going to ask.

It's a very pointed question and worth a discussion, right? She wouldn't call on me for the whole rest of the class. And oh man, she was stumbling in her words.

She was so upset with me. And, uh, you know, that's what you got to do in class. You're going to do stuff like this with the teachers.

You got to, you got to knock them down with her pegs. And so, uh, so the class, you know, time to go. And everybody's packing up and they're going and I'm packing up really, really slowly. Okay.

Real slowly. And so, uh, I made sure the last one out of the class and then I walked by her. I said, you know, I really enjoyed the class.

I can hardly wait to come back, you know, on whatever day it was for the rest of the class. And her eyes, her jaw tensed up and her eyes, eyelids stiffened, you know. And, um, I think the next day I saw her in the hallway and I walked by her. She would not look at me. She was obvious. It was obvious.

She wanted nothing to do with me. Okay. So it doesn't take much to, to destroy teachers. Listen to me talking. It's not like I want to destroy them, but it's like, come on, you know, just don't, of course, you know, how's it going to affect your grade?

So, uh, cause they're so bigoted, they're not fair. If I was in a class teaching something at a college level and someone's contradicted me, I'd say, really? Okay, well let's talk about that. I said, maybe I got it wrong. I would tell the class, maybe I got it wrong. You know, this is okay.

Let's look and blah, blah, blah. Let's just say that it came to the point where the guy or girl proved the point. I'd say, you know, that is awesome.

I'm going to give you a little bit of an extra nod towards an excellent grade because that was good and I want the class to know no teacher has all the answers, but we can learn together. That's my attitude. That, that's my attitude. Okay. I would have no problem with that. I would encourage that kind of discussion. I might even throw something out on purpose. That's stupid.

The same buddy buys into it and if they do buy it, I'd go, wait a minute, did you hear what I just said? Come on. So anyway, so I get into another philosophy class, right? And, um, so I get in there and I keep my mouth shut for the first week. I want to make sure I'm not going to get kicked out, but I needed the, I needed for my degree, whatever it was, you know, to graduate and all this stuff and transferred units to stuff. Anyway, so, uh, but you know, I'm going to speak up.

Once I'm secure in the class, here it comes. So the professor, and he was a better professor than the other guy that are philosophy professor. This guy was, he was fair and he was intelligent and he wasn't uppity like some are who think I'm a college professor.

I know everything you must bow. That kind of stupidity. So, um, he would say stuff and, and you know, I raised my hand and I just said, well, what about blah, blah, blah. And, uh, so we had these discussions in the classroom. Um, he would occasionally attack the Bible or attack Christianity, attack something, but it wasn't a vicious attack. It was a reasoned kind of proposition.

And they said, that's why that is a problem over there in the Bible. And I'd raise my hand. So, well, what about this as a response?

And I would do this. And, um, so it evolved for real. It evolved into the class where, uh, what would happen is that he would say something and if it had anything to do with Christianity, he would, after it was done, he'd just look at me and go, okay, Matt, give us a response.

And I would, it evolved into that. What was interesting was he was, I got a great grade and he was a good teacher, you know, and, and, uh, he wasn't a bigoted twit. He, uh, he didn't agree with me, but you know, he didn't penalize me for disagreeing with them and having discussions. That was good.

I liked that kind of thing. So anyway, this is what happened. Um, I was in a, I was out in the parking lot getting into the car, my car, uh, and, um, one of the students, fellow students in that philosophy class came up to me and, uh, parked nearby and says, Hey, Matt, Matt, hold on, hold on. And I said, yeah. And, uh, she said, look, I'm a Christian. I said, Oh, okay. I didn't know anybody else was in the class was a Christian. I said, okay, you're a Christian.

Good. And she said, I go to such and such a church. He said, she said, this has been hurting my faith, what he's been saying. And different classes has been hurting my faith.

And he said, you're keeping it for me. You're helping me understand and spin. It's strong, stronger because of the comments you make in class. You have to have answers. And I said, well, praise God, praise God.

You see, that is, that's just evidence of how hostile the academic realm is. I would, I mean, if I was God granted me more time, you know, I mean, I'm almost 68 here. If he said, okay, in a vision, okay, you've got another 50 years. I'd say, okay, good. Hey honey, I'm going to go back to college or I'm gonna go get another degree or I'd go take bio, uh, biological evolutionary stuff.

That's what I would take. I'd want to study biological evolution theory. Oh, I think it'd be great. Get into chemistry and, and, uh, cladistics and epigenetics. And, Oh, I love that stuff.

I even like saying the words. That's good with a minor in quantum physics. That would be my idea of a good time.

Seriously. If they have minors in quantum physics, depends if it's a plank minor, which would be really small. That's a joke for those who might know. And so, um, to go back and, and, and challenge, uh, the professors, uh, and stuff. And I remember back here at Boise state university about 10, 15 years ago, I was asked to go into a philosophy class and give a presentation on why God exists.

And I still remember this. The students had no interest in this topic. None. They had none.

I could tell. They're just, they're doing their time. They would rather be on their phones. You know, they do a little stupid philosophy stuff, which I could teach them. Not that I'm good at philosophy, but I wish I could teach on it because I know I know enough to really present stuff.

But at any rate, so I'm presenting this information, uh, basic information, uh, on logic and philosophy and stuff like this. And I was dumbfounded that the students didn't even know the basics and they were in a philosophy class. Now I'm not knocking the teacher cause I didn't know what the dynamic was, but the impression I got was they just didn't care. They were not interested in any evidences or any proofs or any logic or anything.

They didn't care. And it was interesting. And it was interesting because when I believe they're not, I'm just rambling cause no one's calling here. I did, um, a stint at a Christian high school where I was a substitute teacher for a while. And then I did so much that they asked me to teach a couple of classes. And so this is a Christian high school and there was a lot of unbelievers who would go there too because the mom and dad wanted her kids to be better behaved. So they sent the bad ones to the Christian school to hope the teachers would fix them. And I discovered that, uh, a lot of times the Christians didn't, didn't, uh, they didn't know anything either. Uh, it was pretty, you know, this is high school of course, but you know, you got to dumb down your knowledge level at their level.

They're not stupid. I mean, just saying, you know, what level they at and in that level, you'd expect them to have certain areas of knowledge and they didn't even have that in a lot of areas. And so I would go from class to class to class and I would teach Spanish or I would teach drafting. I would teach, uh, do history.

I do biblical theology. These classes, these students, some will be the same classical. How can you be in all of these classes? Teaching these things when I said, it's easy. You study, you study, they guys will study.

And, uh, I'd say, let's talk about stuff. That reminds me. One of my greatest teachers in college was Rod Rosenblatt. He'd recently passed away. He was a Lutheran professor.

I went to a secular college for two years and then a second Lutheran college for two years. And, um, Rod Rosenblatt, he was Dr. Rod Rosenblatt, he's a great guy. Um, and I'd take him to the airport. I'd run favors for him, you know, uh, do this, do that, transport him here and his daughters and stuff like that, kids to the schools and stuff.

He didn't pay me a little bit of money cause we didn't get much and it was a nice way to make a little bit of food money. But, um, what was really great was that there was a few of us who would follow him around for classes. We would just take a class. If he taught that class, we wouldn't took it. He taught that class over there. We just took the class cause he was teaching it.

And the reason we would do that is because even though we may not have had that particular interest in that class, it might not be the most interesting thing for our subject matter in our major, but it was within the relevant elective. He would take his classes because he was such a good teacher. And what he would do is he would teach you the course material, but he would get it out quickly and say, this is what you need to know.

Here's the things, look at this, put this together. Then he'd say, now let's talk. And that's where we would discuss. And he would let us, uh, throw out ideas in philosophy, in logic, in theology. And if we disagreed with him, that was okay. And it was so freeing to have a great teacher like that. I loved it and learned a lot from him. Hey, there you go.

I'm just rambled for most of the show. Hope you enjoyed it. May the Lord bless you by his grace. We're back on the air on Monday and I hope you have a great weekend, everybody. God bless. We'll see ya.