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If you'd like to learn more about the Truth Network Podcast, go to rumble.com. The Church I grew up in actually held an all-male perspective, so I know pretty well where it falls in line with Scripture. Recently, I've been kind of going back and forth between all-male and pre-male.

Obviously, pre-male's the most popular perspective, but I don't know. I've been doing a lot of research, and I feel like the Lord's been kind of revealing to me something which is pretty insane recently, but I feel like Donald Trump could potentially be that little horn. The little horn in Daniel in the Antichrist?

Have you heard of this or thought of that? Well, I always refrain from saying any particular political leader is a little horn or the beast or whatever. Because if you want to call what that is, I mean, we could get into some stuff, but the left is like a terrorist organization, the Democratic Party. So we could say that a Democratic Party here in America is like that, but our party doesn't represent the whole world. So it's always cautious.

I always recommend that people don't attach things like that. I've been noticing this growing narrative, this kind of gnostic narrative where there's a rising beast, they call it the deep state, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call it, they, and they're out to get us. This is a growing narrative worldwide, and scripture tells us Satan masqueraded an angel of light.

So there seems to be one man on the forefront of fighting this system, and it does seem to be Donald Trump. And again, from my reading, he does seem to perfectly match that little horn description in Daniel 7 up to 11. But I don't know, I've just been thinking about that lately, and I feel like the Lord's been revealing it. I read the book Rise of the Little Horn.

I actually know the author, believe it or not. But I don't know, I've just kind of been going back and forth, seeing what you thought, and yeah. I mean, he's been saying some crazy things, too, in the years, like comparing himself to Christ.

He's called himself the second coming of God for Israel. I wouldn't want to see that. You can look these things up. Yeah, I want to see that. Oh, yeah, look it up. He's retweeted. He's like the second coming of God for Israel.

Yeah, show me the documentation for that, because I like to see that. Seriously. Yeah, if you just look it up on Twitter, you can go on your browser right now and just look up, you know, Trump retweets. He's like the second coming of God. He's posted, you know, he's got these NFTs, or he's posted, you know, he's like the rule of the world. He's the white horse. He's said some crazy things as well. But I don't know, I've just kind of been thinking about it lately, and I kind of lean towards the all-male or post-male perspective as well.

And obviously those two are different. But I don't know, I've just been thinking about it a lot lately, and I feel like the Lord's maybe revealing it to me. And it's, you know, everything keeps lining in for him, and there's just so many coincidences. You know, he's been going through these trials right now, which seems to be like a persecution. You know, so he likes to mimic Christ in that way. Well, I'll tell you what. And a lot of his followers, you know, compare him to Christ as well, you know. Well, yeah, people will do that in all kinds of things. You know, it's like if we say Biden is like the Antichrist.

Well, okay, does it mean it is? We could say things. I'll tell you what, why don't you put together a list of stuff, the URLs and where, and send it to me. Sure.

And I can take a look. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I've been kind of researching it in the last seven years, believe it or not. And there's just some of these coincidences that 99 percent of people don't even know he's kind of doing behind the scenes or saying. It's just jaw-dropping. I mean, another coincidence.

He's created his own social media platform. You know, it's like, really? You know, so anyway. Yeah, well, I can see why.

I mean, because he got kicked off of the one, it wasn't fair. So put the documentation together and send it to me, all right? All right. Yep, appreciate it. Nice taking my call.

All right, God bless. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Two open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it is easy.

All you need to do is dial 877-207-2276. Let's get on the air with David from North Carolina. David, welcome. You're on the air, buddy. Hi, Matt.

It's me again. I talked to you yesterday about the sign of the gods. I have a question about calm.org in 2009. I recently found some printed material from debates on calm.org in 2009. What I was curious about was back then, were you on calm.org debating atheists and skeptics and everything on calm.org?

Oh, yeah. I was on discussion. Yeah, the discussion forums I was having with debates, and I got them recorded and stuff like that, yeah. Oh, okay.

I may have actually debated you, but I don't know that for sure. I just found some of the printed out material from a debate that was going on there about three days and three nights and Jesus in the tomb and everything. And I was trying to remember the name of the female who did a lot of posts back then, but I haven't seen or heard from her in today's calm.org. Yeah, that's Diane.

I just wondered if she died or something. Yes, Diane passed away about four years ago or so. Uh-huh. Yep.

Okay. Yeah, that was the correct name, Diane. That's too bad. I'm really sorry to hear that. Was she your wife? No. Oh, I'm sorry, Matt.

No, it's okay. But she just passed away. Her husband found her collapsed, if I remember correctly, on the kitchen floor and that was it.

So I was on the East Coast and I flew out for the funeral and spoke there and met a bunch of great people and that was it. The Lord's raised up others to kind of take her place. She was great.

We were together, so to speak, on calm for about 17 years. Wow. She was very helpful. She's a very good woman and God's raised up others to take her place, like Laura, who's really great. Laura, I remember that name, I think.

Yeah, Laura and Joanne. I don't have the printed copies of my debates. Back then, I used to print them out and study them and I don't do that much anymore, at least not on carm.org, but I just wanted you to know that I'm a polytheist, but I can't debate it with you right now because I want to listen to you for a few months and hear what you have to say and then maybe I can discuss it with you.

You're out of my league right now. So I don't want to discuss it, but yeah, I'm a polytheist, not an atheist. I was an atheist in 2009 when I was on carm.org and I can't remember the name I used.

One day, I would love to get on here and ask you some questions about my polytheism and see what you have to say about it. Well, I could give you a hint right now. It's impossible. And then I can give you reasons why it can't work when you're ready. Yeah, but I'm not ready. I'm not ready now. That's all right. That's all right.

I'm not from Russia. But I want to listen to you and maybe you'll come across some polytheists and I can hear how you answer them. I'm just not prepared to debate someone of your stature and your experience. You have a lot of debate experience. I've read some of your articles online and you have argued and debated so many points.

It just blows me away to see what you have done. And I'm not sure that Calvinism is true, but I don't believe in Calvinism. But if it was a biblical doctrine, it should be followed. And if it's not a biblical doctrine, it should be rejected.

And so, you know, there's so many different people like the Baptist religion. They don't believe in what Calvinism teaches about selection, you know, and predestined stuff. They don't believe that. But yeah, in 2009, the Bible does teach it.

They should believe it because the Bible teaches it. Okay. Okay. I'm going to argue with you. In 2009, I was an atheist, and I was already starting to deconvert when I was studying on porn. And the more I studied, the more I realized that atheism didn't have much going for it.

No, it doesn't. The big thing for me was intelligent design. I came to believe in intelligent design. And therefore, stopped being an atheist. Instead, I became a polytheist. And one day, I'll discuss that with you.

I'm ready for you. And here's a hint. I'm just saying, one day I'll discuss it with you. Yeah. And study the idea of categories. Okay.

Universals and categories. And that'll prep you up for a discussion. All right? Okay. You take care, Matt. You too.

And thanks for calling. All right. Okay.

Bye. Okay. All right. All right.

Hey, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Let's get back to the infamous Alberto. Alberto, welcome. You're on the air, buddy. Yes. Good evening, Matt. Slick. If a senator accused Chris of being a hypocrite, so will say to the senator, okay, why don't you accept Christ and show us hypocrite Christians how to live the Christian life the way you demand from us, then we'll give you a month to just prove yourself, then we'll see at the end of the month who's a hypocrite. That's not a bad challenge.

Why don't you tell us how to do it? Yeah, I like that. I've had atheists say, Christians are hypocrites. And my general response is, yes. What's your point? Because everybody's a hypocrite to some degree. No, sinners accuse Christians of being hypocrites.

Yes, I know. So we're hypocrites according to them. So why don't you accept Christ and show us hypocrite Christians how to live the Christian life, we'll give you a month to prove yourself, and then when the month comes up, then we'll say, well, who's the real hypocrite? So it's easy to demand and criticize people, but when it comes to themselves to live up to the demands, they can't live up to it. But who's the real hypocrite then? It's like people say all the time, well, I don't have a problem with Jesus just with Christians.

Of course, but if Jesus Christ was here in the flesh, I guarantee you, these sinners will have a problem with Jesus because he'll point out their sins and they won't like it. Yes, there's lots of comebacks and things we could say. I agree. So, yep.

And that's another thing I've got to point out. People say they're atheists. They're just things that atheists, because God put eternity at every man's heart. The problem is not atheists, it's someone who says anti-theology or anti-theal of God. They're anti-God. That doesn't mean they don't believe in God, but God put eternity in every man's heart, so there's no excuse for man. If that was so, how come that they better show God to prove he doesn't exist? That proves that he doesn't exist.

Get my point? Uh-huh. Thanks a lot.

There's a break, buddy. All right, so God bless, man. Thanks. Okay.

All right. Hey, folks. You want to give me a call? 877-207-2276. We'll be back with Dee from North Carolina right after the break. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to this show. The number to give me a call is 877-207-2276. You can also email me, info at karm.org, info at karm.org, and just put in the subject line, radio comment, radio question.

Let's get to Dee from North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Hello, Mac. How you doing today? Hanging in there, man. Hanging in there. What do you got, buddy? All right, hanging in there.

What do you got for you? Could you give me the scriptures? Are you going to tell me who Zeus was in the Bible? Well, Zeus is not in the Bible except on the mention. You're breathing into the phone. Okay, so move your phone away from here with your breathing.

I'm kind of excited, man. Yeah, that's all right. And so just that he's a pagan god, but not promoted in the Bible at all. And in Acts, you know, Zeus is mentioned along with Hermes or Mercury. So it's just as pagan gods.

Okay. Okay, that's what I was thinking to you. He was a pagan god that the people worship. Yes, it was Greek. So a lot of the Greeks would worship pagan gods.

And they did. These gods had, yeah, uh-huh. All right, okay then. Okay then.

And I heard on another station, they were talking about him. And I remember somewhere down the line that I heard this in a sermon somewhere, but I'd forgotten all about it. And that conversation didn't agree with the one that I was thinking about.

So that's reason I called to ask you. Yeah, it's just that they were mentioned. In fact, it's Acts 14, 12, and 13. And they began calling Barnabas Zeus and Paul Hermes because he was a chief speaker. Because Hermes, also known as Mercury, a little bit of research in the break, was the chief speaker for Zeus. And Paul was unassuming, but he was a good speaker. So they referred to him as that. And then the priest of the Zeus temple wanted to offer sacrifice. And he said, no, no, okay.

Okay, I didn't think that. I'll read that whole chapter and get the understanding that I'm looking for. What are you looking for, though?

I'm curious, what is it you're trying to find? Well, what I'm looking for, this conversation was, and they were saying that, well, Zeus had, they gave him a color hair that he had and some things that he believed in. In other words, dealing with our politics today. That's what the conversation was. Yeah, I wouldn't know how to put Zeus into politics today, except to say that there's a false god Zeus and there's false leaders in our government.

So that's quite a stretch there, but okay, I could do it. All right, in other words, what you're saying, what they were saying too. But they did bring Zeus out of it.

That's the reason I wanted to know what it was. How Zeus was in the Bible. Yeah, he's mentioned in Acts 14, 12, as well as Hermes.

But Paul also referenced Epimenides, Manaster, and Aretas, which are pagan philosophers. So they're mentioned also, but it doesn't mean they're true. Right, okay then. Hey, I appreciate your information and I thank you for everything, my man. All right, sounds good, man. Okay, good. Hey folks, we have white open lines.

If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. A lot of people are surprised to know that pagan things are mentioned in the Bible. There's like Moloch in the Old Testament and Zeus in the New Testament. This is the reason, because the Jews and the Christians lived in a real cultural context in real time. So occasionally the false gods and false philosophies would be mentioned and dealt with. And that's just part of apologetics and the defense of the Christian faith, that's what happened. So there you go, all right? If you want to learn more about where that is said, it's Zeus.

It's Acts 14, 12, and 13. That's all it is, not the big deal. Okay, we have nobody waiting right now, so what I think I'm going to do is get over to some radio questions and radio comments. Let's see if anybody's putting any more in right there for no, no. Get right there. And there's a radio question. I'll just jump into this one, because it's right there.

Oh, there's another one. I'm a Christian, but recently I've been wondering something. To be saved from sin and hell, must the Christian believe that Jesus died for the sins of those he loved, or must the Christians believe that Jesus died for their sins specifically?

Neither one is necessary. What you are to believe is that Jesus died on the cross for sinners, and that he rose from the dead three days later, that his sacrifice was an atoning sacrifice, by which we are then made right before God. The blood of Christ cleanses us, and what we do as Christians, we put our faith and our trust in the sacrifice of Christ, and not in our works, or not in a combination of God's work and our works. And that's all you've got to do, okay? A person goes on and says, I firmly believe that Jesus is Lord, and that he died for the sins of those he was sent to save.

Great, okay, I agree. However, what if I have trouble believing he died for my sins specifically? Well, it has to be that he died for your sins specifically, because 1 Peter 2.24 says that Jesus bore our sin in his body on the cross. Sin is breaking the law of God, 1 John 3.4. And so sins can be transferred. They can be imputed, so he bore our sins. So sin is a legal debt, and when Jesus said, Father, heart, and heaven, hallowed be thy name, in Matthew 6.12, he said, Forgive us our debts. And Luke 11.4, the parallel, he said, Forgive us our sins. So Jesus is equating debt, legal debt, with sin. Paul the Apostle also does this in Colossians 2.14, where he says, Jesus canceled out the certificate of debt, nailing it to the cross.

So the certificate of debt is the Greek word karographon, which means a handwritten IOU of legal indebtedness. That's due to our breaking the law. That's sin. So he specifically bore the sins, the legal debts, that you and I have incurred through our sin, through our lying, cheating, stealing, lusting, whatever it is, that is breaking the law of God. And our specific sins were imputed to Christ.

Now, 2,000 years ago is when this happened, and we're now. So God knows all sins exhaustively and specifically of all individuals who have ever lived, and he imputed, reckoned to the account of Christ, our sins. So those sins are paid for. Now, here's the thing, since sin's a legal debt, if a legal debt's paid for, can you be held responsible for the legal debt?

The answer is no. If a legal debt is paid, it's gone, doesn't exist anymore. If Jesus bore our sin debt and he canceled the certificate of debt at the cross, Colossians 2.14, then the sin debt is paid for, cannot be held against us anymore. Some people make the error of saying, well, you've got to apply it to yourself, and it becomes real when you apply it to yourself by faith, and that's when it becomes real. And they don't understand that that's just not true teaching because the reality of this crucifixion, which is a propitiatory sacrifice, was finished at the cross. He canceled the sin debt at the cross. It's not canceled when you believe. You're justified when you believe it's canceled when Jesus died at the cross. This is biblical theology, and that's what the Bible teaches. So you don't have to believe all of that. What you do need to believe is Jesus Christ, God in flesh, died on the cross, rose from the dead three days later, and that you put your faith and trust in his sacrifice on that cross so that you can be saved from the righteous judgment of God. That's the basic. That's what you've got to believe.

I hope that helps. All right, let's get to another question. We've got no callers waiting.

We've got another couple of minutes. Hey, Matt, why is it that cultic groups like Witness Lee's local church movement seem to always get by with making bogus claims about other ministries? Because no one fact checks them, and they know what they can say, and their groups are listening to them. Anybody even remotely familiar with the teachings of T.A. Sparks, which I don't know who he is, local church recently conducted their annual shindig in Bellevue over the Memorial weekend. Yeah, I can't go into that reading stuff like that, so I won't do that right now. But that's interesting. Let's see, let's see. Anybody else? I'm looking in their thing before I move into the category of, here we go, radio questions. All right, we've got a caller coming in.

Let me get to this question right here. I've been told that the King James Version of the Bible was written in such a way as to minimize the roles of women in the church. I've never heard that. If that's the case, it's news to me.

Please show documentation for that. But nevertheless, the person goes on. However, this was taught to me by an elder whose wife is also an elder. Well, and she should not be an elder, and she's a false teacher in that regard because she should not be an elder. The Bible clearly says women are not to be elders. Anyway, in a church where the pastor calls himself an apostle.

Oh, boy. So much heresy, so little time. So now we have a pastor, I'm an apostle. And then they have a woman who's an elder.

She wins. I quit that church once I found it. He called himself an apostle. But could you imagine?

I mean, say I'm in a conference place, and I come walking out. I'm apostle slick. Where are you all going?

Man, there's the music. Caleb will be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live. Taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Good morning. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. All right. Let's get to Ed from Virginia.

Ed, welcome. You are on the air. Hey, what's up, Slick? How you doing? I'm doing okay. Hanging in there, man. Hanging in there. What do you got, buddy? I'm delivering, so I hear you on the radio.

Got to get my slick fix tonight. Good. So are you familiar with Chick tracts? Remember Jack Chick? Yeah.

Back in the day. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah.

Your producer, they had no idea. Yeah, I know about it. Uh-huh.

Yeah. So that was a very powerful one I read as a kid that probably had a part in my salvation, was this was your life. And I don't know if you recall, but the guy dies, goes to heaven, and the angels take him up, and he says, you know, you fool, your soul is required of you tonight. And he's put in front of a giant movie screen, and everybody sees his sins, and all his sins are counted for.

So I'm like, that's really not how it's going to work, is it? It's like God wouldn't show everybody everybody's sin because there's no sin in heaven. I don't know that that is the case, that everyone's going to see our sins.

I'm not going to be bored. I don't know. Because God's the one who sees our sins. In order for people to see our sins, then the idea would be that it had to be some sort of a display for every individual, millions upon millions and millions of people.

And what about the sins that are in the heart that aren't on display, that are not something we did? So, you see, it just doesn't really make sense to say that, okay? Right, right.

But it's a powerful track regardless, because as a kid it was a little scary. Everyone's going to see my wrongdoing. Yeah, well, God's going to be the one who sees it, and that's big enough for me. Yeah, absolutely. Well, he's already seen it, you know, took it at the cross.

Yes, he has. And, you know, all I can say is I'm going to be hiding behind the robe of Christ and say, yes, I'm guilty, but I'm with him. That's right. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. There's nothing else. Nothing else at all.

Nothing else. That's right. So, grace.

Got grace on grace. Yeah. All right. Is that good? Yeah, that sounds good.

I mean, like I said, I just thought it was, you know, it's probably hard to tell what – because the Bible does say that all would be revealed. No. Okay. Yeah, that's true. That's right.

And it's going to be revealed, and I don't want it to be – I don't want it to be revealed. Oh, man. But that brings up the question, too, is are you talking to the judgment of the unsafe?

Because all our sins have been covered. Yeah. So ours is just the bemasy of rewards or non-rewards, right? Yes. And, yeah. Yeah, I think I'm going to end up with a mop on the outskirts of heaven, and that will be it.

I'll be cleaning the dung heap outside the gate. Yeah. Well, you and I could have a conversation then about how fortunate we are to be there.

Yeah, because that's how it's going to be. That's right. All right, man. You have a good night, sir.

You too, man. God bless. Take care. Okay. God bless.

All right. Hey, we have nobody waiting. We have about ten minutes left on the show if you want to give me a call.

877-207-2276. And I was going to get back to some of the emails. So, yeah, before the break, the church, a guy calls himself an apostle. You know, I just did a research. I wrote an article and released it yesterday or today, I think it was, where Peter's the apostle to the Jews. And Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles.

Oh, excuse me. The Gentiles. And, you know, I guess I was joking, you know. If Matt Slick was an apostle, what would I be the apostle to? What do you mean, the doofuses? You know, I could accept that one because I could lead that.

That one I could lead. All right. I was raised in the worldwide church of God, he says, this email from before the break, Herbert W. Armstrong, who called himself an apostle. Yep, it's a cult. There was a time when I believed that nonsense. Come to a senses. I'd love to hear me expand on it. Been a listener off and on for several years.

Okay, Billy. Well, hey man, I'm glad that you had the discernment to leave the false church, the worldwide church of God, that it was a cult. I hope you are affirming the doctrine of the Trinity, the deity of Christ, justification by faith alone, and all those essentials. So that's good. And so it says, I'd love to hear you expand on us.

I'm assuming you're going to hear it on the radio. So, uh, yeah, women are not to be pastors and elders, and I'll just offer this again in my nasal whiny voice, um, that, uh, if anybody wants to debate me on this topic, does the Bible support women pastors and elders? Uh, not just some guy, you know, who just became a Christian two weeks ago and his church says whatever. No, an elder of a church, a pastor of a church, that kind of a, I would love it if the representative of a denomination were to set a debate challenge and we'd actually have a debate. I'd fly out there and do it.

Uh, as long as it could be, um, moderated and filmed, I don't have any problem. Now I've been offering this for about 20 years on the radio. Guess how many people have taken me up on that offer? None.

Why is that? Do you think it's because they don't want to deal with God's word? That's what I think.

And, uh, a lot of false teachers out there. So, uh, what is Paul's meaning in Colossians 1-24 when he mentions about filling up was lacking in Christ's afflictions? Okay, that's a good question. Generally what people understand it to mean is that we have to go through things that Christ hasn't gone through. There are particulars that we are going to go through, like a father, uh, you know, for example, uh, whose wife might, uh, have died during childbirth.

Okay. Uh, Jesus didn't experience that. He had varying sufferings and there's all, there's different kinds of sufferings that people can go through in different categories.

And Jesus did not experience every single one. He's experienced sufficiently the suffering, uh, for our sin and being beaten and being crucified. So that's generally what's understood is the lack in Christ afflictions is not that his sacrifice wasn't sufficient, but there are other areas of suffering which he did not undergo, which we do.

And so that's basically what it's meant, how to say it. So, Colossians 1-24 says, now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake and in my flesh. I do my share on behalf of his body, which is the church and filling up what's lacking in the afflictions of Christ. So, uh, the afflictions of Christ. So, as Jesus represents the body of Christ and the body of Christ is afflicted, then this is another sense in which, uh, this is to be understood. Um, Christ went through so much and the Christian church is being afflicted. For example, there are Christians who had been beheaded. Christ wasn't. They have been burned at the stake. Christ wasn't.

So, that's what he's talking about is that the other areas that people have suffered and gone through that Christ specifically hasn't. All right. Hope that helps. All right. Now, let's see, let's get to this one. Ooh, my goodness. That's a humongous thing.

I can't get to that. When we say God is sovereign, what are we really saying? Sovereignty means that he has the right to do with his creation as he sees fit and that his authority is the final authority. So, he has that sovereignty that he is the final judge, the final arbiter, and the final executor of what it is that he says ought to be done and what ought not to be done.

Okay. And so, yes, he's sovereign over our salvation as well, which is why the Bible says that God grants that we have faith, Luke 1.29, and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed, Acts 13.48. And the email goes on.

This is Kerry asking this. So, we're sovereign over every action people make on this earth. Yes, he's sovereign over those as well. He's sovereign over how many hairs we have numbered and how many days are in our lives. And so, nothing occurs without the sovereignty of God. So, Ephesians 1.11 says God works all things after the counsel of his will. This means everything that occurs. It does not mean that God causes evil things to occur, but that he permits evil things to occur, and all of those things that he permits are within the, what we would call the permissive will of God. He desires to permit them, though he may not exactly want them because he may say don't lie, but he permits you to lie. So, he's sovereign over both.

All right. How does free will sin work? Free will is the ability to make a choice consistent with your nature that's not forced on you. So, sinners have free will, and they make free choices, and their freedom is restricted by their sinfulness. Christians make free will choices too, except we're not as restricted as the unbelievers are. They can only choose that which is sinful, but we can choose to honor God as well as sin. God is sovereign over our free will choices. It does not mean we don't have free will, as some like to say. Well, if God knows that you're going to choose, you're not free to choose anything different than when it's time to choose it. Well, the point is you're making the choice. So, you're the one restricting your choice, and God knows this, and we get into particulars about causation, secondary, and all that.

I'm going to get into all that right now. So, that's not an issue either. Is God the author of evil? No, he is not. Okay. He permits certain things to occur. We call that proximate causation, where he puts in place certain events or conditions by which other events and conditions arise, but they are the result of man's choices. Okay.

Or is it that from free will sin is any broken fallen world? I'm not sure what that means. So, there you go with that. All right. Let's get to the next question. I already got to that one.

Let's try this one. When did Jesus get the Spirit? Well, if you mean the Holy Spirit that was at his baptism in Matthew 3. So, the Holy Spirit came upon him, which is part of the requirements of fulfillment of entering into the priesthood. He's a high priest after the order of Melchizedek, and if you go to the Old Testament chapters of Leviticus chapter 8, numbers 4, Exodus 29, you'll see many of the things described for entering into the priesthood that Jesus did.

He didn't do all of them. I think the writer of the Gospels, Matthew, he picked a representative number of items to show that he was entering into that priesthood after the order of Melchizedek, Hebrews 6.20, Hebrews 7.25. So, the Spirit came upon him, which was symbolic, representationally speaking, of the Old Testament requirement of anointing with the oil.

And the oil is also representative of the Spirit because you can go to 1 John 2.27, you receive an anointing from God, and when he comes upon you, it's a Holy Spirit's reference. So, there you go. That's what that is. Let's go to another one.

Hello. I am a new Christian. Something is confusing me. What happens when a Christian sins unknowingly or believes they aren't sinning? They do something and therefore never confesses said sin. If you do a sin that you don't know is a sin, it's still a sin. Now, our repentance and confession are part of the Christian life. But, if it was the case that we needed to confess our sins, whether we knew about them or didn't know about them, if we had to confess them in order to be saved, then we would never be saved because our salvation is not dependent on our ability to confess something. That would be a conditional salvation based upon our goodness and our performance, and that's not the case. God forgives us. We're out of time here. I'm going to wrap this up.

God forgives us, and all of our sins were born by Christ Jesus on the cross 2,000 years ago. You've got to put your faith and trust in him. May the Lord bless you.

There's the music. I've got to go, and by his grace, we're back on here tomorrow, and we'll talk to you then. I hope you all have a great evening. So, God bless everybody. Talk to you later. Bye.