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Oh, man. I talked to a guy in Turkey today. It looks like I'm going to be going to Turkey later this year, so it's going to be fun. And so it'll be fun meeting him probably as a Christian pastor out there. Went to the same seminary that I did, and we just had a conversation.

His English is really good. So, hey, it'll be fun. No big deal.

Been doing a lot of work on some studies and learning some interesting stuff about some interesting stuff. But we'll get into that in another time. All right.

I think that's about it. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. You can also email me, info at karm.org.

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Easy to do. All right. Let's get on the air with Travis from North Carolina. Travis, welcome. You're on the air.

Man, sick. I know you get a lot of calls, brother, so you are probably not going to remember me. But I got out of prison last year, and I called you like the day I got out, and I kept calling you for a while.

And through a series of unfortunate events, I ended up... Ended up... A series of unfortunate events. I ended up... And then it's gone, so he's probably back inside. I don't know. We'll see if he can handle it, because it sounded like it was an echo, so it's probably inside. Are you there? Hey, we lost you.

I'm back in prison, but I just got out, and so I had my back in prison. Are you there? Can't hear you, buddy. Are you there? Can you hear me? Now we can. We lost you there.

Can you hear me? So a series of unfortunate events. You ended up what? I ended up back in prison. I was trying to minister to a friend, and she was bad off on fentanyl. And luckily I was there, but she ended up overdosing. This call is from a North Carolina correctional facility. I went to eat and talked to her, and I was there to save her.

I ministered Narcan to save her, but all my parole officer cared about was that I was in the presence of a known drug user, so they violated me. So I'm calling you from prison right now, but I had my nephew freeway you, but I didn't know if you remembered me or not. I got out last year, and I called you for a while.

It brings back some memories. I remember talking to somebody out of prison, so it must have been you, all right? So, okay.

Yeah, I ended up, but they only gave me a nine-month post-release violation, so I'm only doing nine months. I'll be home pretty soon, but yeah, I was just desperate to talk to you. These are only 15-minute calls, and actually my tablet is about to die anyway, but I had a question for you real quick about Islam, and I also wanted to ask you, is there any address or something where I can correspond with you by mail since I can't call all the time? Yeah, I don't know if you have access to the internet, but I can give you the P.O. box for CARM, because it's on the bottom of the website, and it's on every page, but it's P.O. box 1353. And NAMPA, N, A P... 1353? Okay. Yup, NAMPA, Idaho, N, A, M, P, A, NAMPA, Idaho, 83653. 83693?

5383653. Okay. All right, we have my question was, um, in prison, there's a lot of people in here claiming to be Muslims. And I really think it's just part of some kind of prison culture that they want to be part of, but they're not really Muslims. But I think I remember hearing you say something a long time ago when I was in prison. You say something about there was some kind of evidence to support it. I don't know if it was Mecca or Medina, or one of those things that is long time to have some kind of paper or something that wasn't even established. You're very muffled.

You're very muffled. It's very hard to understand you. So I'm straining to hear but I thought that I remembered a long time ago, you saying something about Medina, or Mecca, or something like that Islam or Muslims claim to have a some some kind of foundation in that it wasn't even established as a city or an or a culture at the time of Muhammad, or something like that.

I'm trying to come up with some like basic to the point argument to get Muslims. Yeah, that's not going to work. Okay, it's, there's just some conjecture by some people doing archaeology, and there's some timeline differences, it won't really matter.

So what you want to do is something different. Okay, and you go to, if you ever get a Quran and go to surah four, chapter four, start reading four, in the 100s, about 150s, 170s. Because in there, it says 157, surah 4, 157, it says that Christ was not crucified, but it was made to appear that he was crucified. Well, I asked Muslims, who made it appear that he was crucified, they say it was Allah, then Allah deceived people.

Then how can you trust Allah if he's a deceiver? Especially about this issue, appreciate. All right. Man, I love you, man, you are something else. Well, I don't know about that.

But here's two other ones. Have you got a pencil? You write this down? Okay. Yeah, I do.

I do. Right. So also, you want to write down surah four 82.

Okay. Because it says in surah 42, that the Quran won't have any discrepancies. If there are discrepancies, there's not from Allah. Okay, so surah four 82. And then you want to cross reference that with surah 84, or 84, five.

I do it different ways. Okay, 85, six through seven. So you want to go to surah 85, six through seven. No, 84 or five. How can I do it that way? Yeah, here we go.

86, five through seven. Sheesh. And it says this, let man but think from what he's created, he's created from a drop emitted proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.

So this Quran 86, five through seven says that a man's seed comes from his chest. That's a problem. It's not true. That's a discrepancy. So if there's a discrepancy, the Quran can't be true. So you do those, and it'll it'll cause a lot of conversations.

There's other things you can do. But okay. I have, I have a book right now that is absolutely amazing. It's called Paul meets Muhammad by Michael Laconia. And they're kind of like simulating the debate between the Apostle Paul and Muhammad. It's amazing.

Yeah, good. He knows his stuff. So we'll be interested in a lot of people who are really good with Islam.

Those are the basics right there. Get a Quran and to start reading through it and start asking questions. And it's surah 23. This is the question I like to ask Muslims and surah 23, 101 to 103. It talks about salvation, how to get your sins forgiven. That's what I asked them.

And I could give you some other ideas before the you know, your time's up. But you know, but one I'll do is I'll say, how are your sins forgiven? And in surah 23, 101, it says that you basically 101 to 103, you have to do good works to be saved. You ask them, are you doing enough good works? And you compare that with the salvation you know you have in Christ. And you ask them, why should I give up what I have guaranteed salvation for what you had, what you have, which is you don't even know if your sins are forgiven.

So there's lots of different ways. Okay. I love it. You have 30 seconds remaining. The first letter, I will put a letter in the mail. My name is Travis again. And I'll just just keep me in your prayers. And I'll do the same for you. And it'd be great to talk to you again. All right, man. God bless, buddy.

All right. Let's Travis from inside. I used to do nine I did nine years of prison ministry going inside different prisons up and all over California. And did that for nine years. So yeah, I know just like to, to minister those on the inside. And it's interesting.

It's an interesting life in there. Anyway, let's get to Buskman from Dayton, Ohio. Buskman.

Welcome. You're on the air. Buskman. Well, I think we lost him because as soon as we just went dead. Let's get to Tony from Massachusetts. Tony, are you there? Hey, Matt.

Yep, I'm here. Longtime listener, first time caller. Just had a question for you.

One of my friends was talking about this. Well, heresy, I guess known as modalism. And he has a friend who's a one that's Pentecostal.

And I was just wondering, if you could just kind of lay out what they believe why the problem and what are some of the things that I can say to him about that? Yeah, modalism teaches that, there's slightly different views, but it teaches that there's one person in the Godhead, and that the one person takes forms or manifestations at different times. So it used to be, what's called modal monarchianism, is that the mode of the Father then became the mode of the Son that became the mode of the Holy Spirit, where it's one person, the three consecutive modes. Now there's a slight variation that's happened in the past 20 years that I've noticed. And they will just say that they say that there's one person who takes different manifestations at different times, and they kind of leave it at that.

There's problems. So what I'd recommend you do is go to John 6 37 through 40. John 6 37 through 40.

And I have to explain this, we're probably gonna hit the break here soon, so I'll go through this slowly and give you what to do and stuff. Now, see, you go to John 6 37, all that the Father gives me, and you ask him, who's the me? Now they're gonna say, depending, but they'll say it's Jesus, okay. Will come to me, that's Jesus, right? But wait a minute, the Father, wait, wait, what? So Jesus says that all that the Father gives him. So is he the Father?

They'll have to say yes. Well, if he's the Father, then how does he say the Father gives me? Who's the me? Now they probably will say the human nature. So then you say that the Father is a divine nature giving to the human nature.

So you're saying, so that's what I'll do. I take these four verses, and I'll explain more. I take these four verses, and I have them printed up, and actually do it on a computer when I'm talking to them. And I have brackets behind the word me, the word Father, word me, I, and things like that through the whole text. And I want them to tell me which nature of Jesus is talking.

This is how it goes. It's a problem. All that the Father gives me, so the Father is a divine aspect of Jesus gives me, the human aspect, will come to me, the human aspect, right? Human nature. All that's come to me, the human, I will not cast out. That's probably the human. For I have come down from heaven. Now who's the I? Oh, that's the divine nature.

Well, wait a minute. Jesus has come to me, so me and the I, are they the same person? Because if they're not the same person, now you have two persons, right? But now you're saying the Father is Jesus. He says the Father gives me, will come to me, the human nature, I came down from heaven. Did the human nature come down from heaven?

No. Well then who came down from heaven? Well, the Father. So the Father is Jesus?

Yes. So I, the Father, came down from heaven not to do my will. What? Which will is he not doing? His own will? Who's the will he's not doing?

You see how this becomes a real problem for them. Okay, we got more to talk about. But it's called historianism.

And it's a heresy. So hold on, buddy. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

We'll continue talking about this issue. And please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, I would welcome back to the show if you want to give me a call.

The number is 877-207-2276. We have two open lines. Let's get back on with Tony. Tony, are you there?

Yep, still here, Matt. Okay. So let's continue with this a little bit more with this pericope of John 6, 37 through 40. Because when you, if you were to type this up, and you put in what they say, which nature is talking, it starts to get really ridiculous from their position. And I've done this many times with oneness people, and it trips them up every time.

Okay. So I came down from heaven has to be the divine nature because the human nature didn't exist in heaven. They'll say that's correct. This is not to do my own will.

Wait a minute. If the I is the one who came down from heaven not to do my own will, how does that work? They're stuck. Well, it's the human nature, but he says he came down from heaven. So the human nature is in heaven. You see, it's a problem right now.

It's a serious problem. He says, but the will of him who sent me. So who was sent? The human nature was sent? Or was that he sent himself?

Yeah, he sent himself. Our oneness Pentecostal saved. Because he said he went to one of their services. And he said the holy the presence of the Holy Spirit was definitely there. And his argument was that Christianity is bigger than right and wrong beliefs. Christianity is bigger than right and wrong beliefs. That that's in the book of Second Moronicles.

Next, third stupidification. Okay. So yeah, it's it's bad.

And they can say all the things they want to say. But when it's Pentecostal theology is a non Christian cult. Yeah. All right.

They did deny the doctrine of the Trinity. They ultimately let me tell you why this is so important. Okay, about this issue here. Because as I go through this prick of you john 637 to 40 with them, they have an alternation between the natures. It's like hopscotch, go back and forth, back and forth.

Which nature is it? And talking? Okay, well, I asked them, is Jesus one person? If he's one person, how is it that he's talking like two persons? This is a question they're gonna have to answer.

And I can't do it. But here's the theologically significant reason. I'm going to ask you a question.

And I'll teach you a little here a little bit. So which nature of Christ died on the cross? Remember, he has a divine nature and a human nature. So which one died on the cross?

Um, yeah, I would say definitely his human nature. All right. Good.

If only the human nature died, how is it then that the sacrifices of divine value? Okay, that's a good question. It's a very Yeah, honestly, I've actually never thought of that. It's a really good question.

It is. Well, the solution is found in the doctrine called the communicatio idiomatum, or the communication of the properties. And this is really significant. And this is why the sacrifice is true in works for us, but not for them.

And I'll explain. Because the communication of the properties, the communicatio idiomatum, the communication of the properties, it says this, that Jesus is one person, and that the properties of both natures are described to the single person. So Jesus would say, I am thirsty, and he was john 1928. And he would say, Are they with you always even at the end of the end of the earth, Matthew 2820. So he's claiming the attributes of humanity and divinity for himself.

I will be with you always. And I thirst. So the I is the one person, and he's claiming attributes of both natures. And there's more verses like this.

But those are the two that I used to demonstrate this. So when Jesus died on the cross, the person died on the cross, the single person, the one person died, the one person has the attributes of both natures. So therefore, we have the sacrifice being of divine value. So when we go back to john 637, all the father gives me that's me is the person of Christ will come to me, Jesus has two natures, the divine nature and human nature. And the one who comes to me as the person, you don't say the human nature or the divine nature, you say the person says I will certainly not cast out for I've come down from heaven. Ah, so now we can understand why he can say I came down from heaven because the divine attributes are ascribed to his personhood. Not to do my own will.

Now this is interesting. I won't get into diethylitism, monothelicism, but this diethylism and it gets more complicated. Not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me. And Jesus says, John in Luke 2242 says, not my will, but your will be done. He's praying to the Father who's in heaven. Now to a oneness, how's that possible? He's the human nature is praying to the divine nature.

Well, wait a minute. If the human nature is praying to the divine nature, then it's two persons. And if it's two persons, then only one of the persons died on the cross and therefore only the human nature died. The human person died, not the divine because the attributes are not ascribed to the single person because they divide the person.

Therefore, the sacrifice is not of divine value in one that's Pentecostal. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does.

And making that distinction between person and nature. Yeah, that's very helpful. Definitely. Yes. It gets more and deeper stuff and we'll get to it right now, but go ahead.

Okay. And just really quickly, if you don't have anyone else on the line, another argument he made was about that being baptized only in the name of Jesus. Do you have any responses to that? And what you do is you go to Acts 4-7. When they had placed them in the center, they began to inquire by what power or in what name have you done this. Then Peter filled with the Holy Spirit said to them, rulers and the elders and people, if we are on trial today for the benefit done to a sick man as to how he is made well, etc., etc. He goes on, whom God raised from the dead by this name, this man stands.

I skipped the part where he says, by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom you crucified. The phrase in the name of means in the authority of. So when you baptize in the name of Christ, that's in his authority. So they'll say, it's never the case that you baptize, quote, in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, close quote. It's always in the name of. And I say, that's right, but Acts 4-7 through 10 is the answer to that. And then you go and you ask them, well, in Matthew 28, when Jesus says baptize him in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, why are you not obeying Christ who gave the specific command in how to do it? They'll say, with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all his one name.

Really? So the name of Jesus is the Holy Spirit? You can go to Isaiah 7-14, excuse me, 9-6.

9-6, all right. For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us, and the government will rest on his shoulders. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Now, it doesn't say his names, it says his name. So in Hebrew culture, Jewish culture, it's similar to American Indian names.

Where's Running Bull? He's down there with Flying Eagle because those names mean things like that. So, my name in Greek means Gift of God. Nathan means to give.

His name represents the characteristics of him. That's what's going on and the one that people don't know it. Does that help, buddy? Okay?

That does. I appreciate your time, Matt. Thank you. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. I hope you enjoyed that previous segment on oneness.

I've debated many, many, many times. There's a lot there to learn and go through. All right, let's get to Rusty from South Carolina. Rusty, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, how you doing, Mr. Matt Slick? I'm doing all right, man. Hanging in there.

Okay. To follow my question yesterday, okay, what happens after the thousand years reign of Lord Jesus Christ? Do we go back to heaven and earth is destroyed? And when Satan is released after the thousand years, how long will he roam the earth until it's over? Well, there's different views. But the ultimate position is that when Jesus comes back, the new heavens and new earth are going to be made.

This is now in the premillennial view, after the thousand years, in that view, that's when the new heavens and new earth are made. Okay? Who are you? Okay. Yep. All right. Yes. Okay. Yes, sir. Okay.

So that's it. And that's how the Second Peter 2, the Second Peter 2, 3, 9, 10. Yeah, let me get to it. It's, I'll do the Second Peter 3. Okay. I got all these verses in my head sometimes.

If I don't just say them quickly, then I mess up. But it's Second Peter 3, 10. Okay.

All right. Second Peter 3, 10. Yes. But what that says is a day of the Lord will come like a thief in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat.

And the earth and its works will be burned up. So the day of the Lord comes like a thief, right? Yes, right.

Yeah. Well, what's interesting is that in Second Thessalonians 4, 16 through chapter 5, verse 2, the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night is the rapture. Are they the same day, the day of the Lord comes like a thief?

Is it the day of the rapture, also the day that new heavens and new earth are made? Because if that's the case, then there's no literal 1000 year reign. Okay. Okay.

Okay. So with the Passover, I noticed a lot when Jesus came, he fulfilled prophecy from the Old Testament, like with the goat blood and the lamb blood that they had to put on the doors of the first Passover. That's for their flesh and for their obedience, for death won't take them. I couldn't quite understand everything you said. So what was the, what was it? Tell me again. So with the first Passover, when God told them to put goat blood and lamb blood on the door to protect their, their flesh.

What was that? To protect their flesh? The Passover was, there were three posts that formed a door in the Hebrews houses, two posts to the left and a wooden post over the top. So three pieces of wood.

Okay. Jesus was crucified on three pieces of wood. Jesus says, he's okay. Yeah. Jesus says, Jesus says, he's the door.

Yeah. And so they passed through the door and they're saved. And the blood of the lamb was put on the doorpost.

Okay. And also on in past, in the Jewish home, there was a little thing that would nail to the doorpost symbolizing the law. That was the law. They did that later on this stuff. But, uh, so it's all typological of Christ.

He's the Passover lamb. That's what was put there. Okay. Man. Okay. Um, so, okay.

Oh man. So, okay. Okay.

With the nose. Okay. So in the Old Testament, you, you answered my question already, but do you have all the, like the books of the scriptures that, um, come up, lead up to the prophecy of Jesus coming and I'm not sure I'm following you, but okay. Like Isaiah, I already wrote one book. Now I heard when you were on the radio, talk to the other gentleman, Isaiah nine six. Yes.

Yes. From my understanding, there are more books on that talk about Jesus coming and how it's going to be to know. Well, the prophecy in Isaiah nine six, the child reborn, his name, his one name is wonderful counselor, mighty God, eternal father, Prince of peace. And he's not called any of those in the new Testament, those specific names, because that's not the purpose of Isaiah nine six.

It's not take saying his name is Bob Smith. No, it represents the characteristics of his, of his nature of his calling. Wonderful counselor, mighty God, eternal father, Prince of peace. He's representing all of that. And I can get into the theology behind each of those, but, um, this is, uh, this is what's going on. Okay. Okay.

Yes, sir. Okay. All right, buddy. There you go.

We've got a caller. So we're gonna get going. Okay, buddy.

Keep going. All right. Yes, sir. Have a good day.

You too, man. God bless. All right. All right. Now let's get to Ebenezer from California.

Ebenezer, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, I'm good.

How are you, man? Um, I just had one question. Like, uh, I was talking to some Muslims online, and I heard it from, um, uh, like some Christian circles, uh, how they say that the Islamic religion, um, Christianity and Judaism are part of, um, are part of the Abrahamic religions. And I was like, yeah, that couldn't be so because, because, uh, I was like, I was like, yo, is this a radical?

Um, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. What are they saying that the God of Abraham is, well, let me tell you what they generally say. They'll say that Abraham was a Muslim and he served the Muslim God as did Jesus, David, Moses. They'll say all of that.

That's what they say. They claim it. And I say to them, that's not true.

It's not true at all. I said, did you just claim it doesn't make any sense. You just say that Abraham was a Muslim.

No, no, no, no. I forgot what the references, but, uh, I won't get into other stuff at the sidetrack. And I say, so Abraham served God, right? And in Genesis, 1924, it says, Yahweh, rain, fire, and brimstone from Yahweh out of heaven. Why is God speaking of himself in a plurality? And what they'll do is they'll say, it's the Royal. We say, that's never how it is in the Jewish scriptures.

Never. Furthermore, this is here. Try this one. This will be a little bit easier for you.

Say this. Um, see, you're saying then that, uh, Mo Moses and Abraham served, uh, Allah. It was the God of Islam, right? Okay. What's the name of, of Islam, of the God of Islam? What's his name?

Just ask him what's his name. Okay. And they're going to say different things, but no point. Okay. They're going to say different things. And, uh, you know, they might say, well, he has 99 names.

Okay. Well, what's his name? What's his personal name? Because when God spoke further to Moses, you know, he, he spoke to him, he called himself Yahweh. So God identified, identified himself as by the name Yahweh. And I say to them, if I remember correctly, it's to be, let's see, three, no, 6,517 times that Yahweh's name is used in the Old Testament. That's a true God.

Why is it that Yahweh's name is never mentioned in the Quran? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. All right. Yeah.

And also, yeah. Okay. Go ahead. I apologize. That's just, no, there's a question to ask him. Okay. Go ahead.

Yeah. Um, and also, um, they, these Muslims say that, you know, um, cause I, cause I was like, Allah can't be God because I mean, if it's part of the Abrahamic religion, he, Allah had no son. And even in Judaism, uh, is prophesied that Jesus will, you know, will be, you know, come, well, not, they don't believe in Jesus, but prophesied that someone will come from that line, which is Jesus, but you don't see it in the Quran. You don't even see it in Islam.

You know, he never had a son. You know what I'm saying? Yes. And if you go to what I would do, if I were you is I would go to karm.org forward slash cut. Okay. I'm doing it right now.

C a R M dot O R G forward slash C U T cut. That's for cut and paste. And you'll see the page come up and you can go to Islam and link on Islam.

And you can go in there and look up the issue. Can God have a son? And in one place in the Quran it says no.

Another one says yes. Why the contradiction? And the references are there. Okay, buddy. Got a break.

We got to go. All right, man. God bless. All right. All right. Thank you.

Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt slick. Welcome back to the show.

All right. Let's get on with Jay from Ohio. Jay.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Mr. slick. How you doing, sir? Oh, hanging in there, man. Hanging in there. So what do you got? Good.

Hey, I was just on rumble and I got booted off the live chat. I just wanted to explain what I was saying. So in case anybody got mad at me or anything, there's a commercial that plays on truth network between breaks on your show. And it's this dad who is like explaining teen language basically.

Yeah. And he's giving an example of a kid saying you're the goat, like the greatest of all time. And there's this really cool reformed clothing company. It's called righteous wretch and they have this shirt that says the lamb is the goat and it says in the lamb is the greatest of all time and it's like, you know, it's like a play on words kind of thing. I said the lamb is the goat in the chat and I just feel like people that I was like blaspheming or something. So I just wanted to clarify that. Well, they're listening to you. So good. You know, it happens. We do get wackos coming in saying things. So Laura's pretty good about getting them.

So she's probably chuckling right now. It's mine. Okay. No big deal. Yeah, for sure. I just wanted to clarify if I upset anybody. Yeah.

Laura's cracking the whip as they're saying in there. Hey, that's good, though. I'm sure you guys get a lot of a lot of stuff.

Yes, we do. In fact, it reminds me to read something because we do have wackos that let's just say they're pretty bad. And so I need to read something because you know, on our show, we receive inappropriate chats from individuals. Now, let me ask you. Yeah, I don't know if that's no, I'm sorry, not you. But Laura, what if she mistook you for him? Anyway, our corporate attorneys and law enforcement will file a formal complaint if this continues.

The VPN offers no protection. So, okay. Taking care of. All right, buddy. All right. Yeah, no problem, man. I appreciate it. All right.

Hey, thanks for calling. Yeah. God bless.

God bless. All right. All right.

All right. Now, let's get on with, let's see, Arthur from Nevada. Arthur, welcome.

You're on the air. Hey, man. How you doing? Doing all right. Hanging in there. All right.

Yeah, same here. My question is in regards to Jesus Christ and when we die, we're Christians, we go to heaven. Who are we going to see? Are we going to see Jesus Christ if he has a glorified body? And the second part of the question is, why is it that pastors and everybody else, they're always saying that we're all going to heaven, but they never mentioned that eventually we're going to end up on earth with a glorified body? Is that correct? Am I correct about saying that?

Yeah, there's debate about it. We don't know exactly, but generally speaking, there's going to be a new heavens and new earth. That's prophesied in 2 Peter 3 10.

So that's not a problem. Yeah. And paradise, earth, and stuff like this. And so we're going to have glorified bodies. And we're just, there's debate, let's just say. Some say we're going to be on earth and walk around and enjoy nature and everything as it was meant to be by God.

And okay, there'll be no oceans. That's one of the theories. I don't affirm that myself. But it's just, so it's not really clear in scripture. And that's probably why people don't really talk about it a whole bunch. Okay. Oh, that's interesting.

I didn't know about the oceans. And did you say about Jesus Christ? Is he the only one we're going to see when we get to heaven?

Sorry, I completely missed it. No, we'll see other people. But we won't see God the Father. He dwells in unapproachable, like whom no man has seen or can see first Timothy 16.

Oh, never ever. Oh, okay. And the Holy Spirit, God, God, the Holy Spirit, we're not gonna see him either. Well, I don't know, because the Holy Spirit manifests in the Bible in fire, wind, things like that.

So when we see something like that, the manifestation of his presence as a wind or as fire, I don't know, if we do, there would be saying, seeing the manifestation, but we will be able to spend time with the Lord Jesus. Okay. Okay.

That is great. All right. All right.

All right, Matt. I appreciate it. God bless you.

Okay, good. God bless, man. Thank you. All right.

God bless. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye.

All right. Now, let's get over to Nick from Virginia. Nick, welcome on the air. Hey, how are you doing? Hanging in there? What do you got, buddy?

Yeah. I just have a question. We've lost you. So I'm sure we'll try it again.

We're not hearing anything. Hello. Okay, there you go. Okay. Okay. All right.

Sorry. Yeah, I just have a question in relation to first Corinthians chapter seven, verse 40. Obviously taken into reference the wider context, but where he speaks that if this person doesn't marry that they're happier, he and Paul's judgment that they're happier.

And throughout the, he kind of gets at the reality that a person would be happier and the better option is if they're not married to not seek marriage, trying to understand the context of that. I know many people doesn't restuate something currently in Corinth, or do you think that that's Paul's judgment like widely for all all time? Well, let's read a little context because we're starting with verse 25.

It says now concerning virgins, I have no command of the Lord, but I give an opinion as one who by the mercy of the Lord is trustworthy. I think then that this is good in view of the present distress, that it is good for a man to remain as he is. Are you bound to a wife? Don't seek to be released. Are you released from a wife?

Don't seek to be to have a wife. So there's something going on in the Corinthian context where there's problems and distress and Paul's recommending that you don't change your status in this difficult time. So it looks like that's what's going on is that the present distress, whatever that is. It could be impending distress, but if any man thinks he's acting unbecomingly towards his virgin daughter, he goes on.

And so he's giving a set of commands and stuff as his opinion is and his recommendation considering that context and that's what it is. That's why he says, I want you to be free from concern. One who's, in verse 32, one who's unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, that he may please the Lord, who's married him if you consider concerned the things of the world. So this is overall, if you're going to be married, you've got responsibilities with your family.

But if you're not married, you're free to serve God a lot more. And so in this present distress, he's saying, you know, stay as you are. And that's the whole overall context, okay? Okay, and I guess, should so I know there are others, you know, within the maybe the controversy of that passage that would say that the present time is the reality of the just the end times, the grown very short.

And then the inverse 31, the world is passing away. So you, you don't think that the two are linked? Well, they relate, but how do they relate?

And to what extent? So what he's, if you go to 39, he says, a wife is bound as long as her husband lives. But if her husband is dead, she's free to be married to him.

She wishes only the Lord. But in my opinion, this is what he says, in my opinion, she's happier if she remains as she is, I think also at the Spirit of God. So he's just giving an opinion that it's single, being single frees you to serve God more.

That's what he's talking about. Now, is he single? Well, he's a Pharisee and Pharisees were married. So does his wife die? It's not mentioned, or what?

We don't know. But he's just giving his opinion. Okay. Well, I guess I might have been unclear, but I definitely agree that he's given his opinion. But I guess my question more so, do you think that that that judgment holds true for our all time, like I've heard that his judgment is only applicable for that current situation at that current time? He said in the present distress, stay as you are. But he's also saying, look, it's better to be single to serve God.

So that applies to any time, you know, if I'm married, been married for 36 years, if I become single, whatever, as life throws us curves, you know, my wife could become single, so bad me, I don't have any plans to, to get remarried, I would rather serve God. And more fully. So it just makes sense. And that's fine. Okay. And I had one other question kind of in the context if you had time, if not, that's fine. Sure. We got one caller waiting. Let's do it in 30 seconds here.

What do you got? So do you think there's any correlation between like Matthew chapter 19, verse 10. As far as the Pharisees coming to the conclusion, when Jesus spoke about divorce, that in light of everything Christ said that it's better to not marry, do you think that there's any similarities between the conclusion that they came to kind of what Paul is saying here? No, the context what Jesus is talking about is those who are getting divorced. And he says, except for immorality, or porneia, and marriage with another woman commits adultery, the disciples disciples said the relationship to the man of his wife is like this is better not to marry. Yeah. It's so bad that that this kind of sin is going on and it's bad.

It's better not to marry. It's that's what's going on. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right, Matt. God bless. All right. Now let's get over to Cole from Virginia.

Cole, welcome. You're on the air. We got about two minutes. Mr. Matt, I'll make it quick. How you doing, sir? Good. All right. All right.

What do you got? Oh, it's about I'm traveling. So I don't know exactly where it's at. But in at the end of Revelation, it says that God, Jesus is going to turn everything over to God, the Father, and he's going to come to the earth. Can you look that up? It's in Revelations at the end says God, God's going to come down to the earth.

So I guess we're gonna we're gonna see him, man. No, it doesn't say those things. So you're talking about First Corinthians 15, when Christ hands No, no, no, it's in Revelation.

It's in Revelation is at the end of Revelations, the last book, the last chapter of Revelation, it says Christ will turn everything over to God, the Father, and you'll be all in all, he's going to come to the earth. Okay, I'm trying to answer you. It's in there. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm trying to answer you, but you're not listening.

Okay. You need to go to First Corinthians 15 and start reading there and see what it says there about Christ reigning until let's see First Corinthians 15, he says most of whom remain until now and he goes on, he must reign until he's put all enemies under his feet. And it says subject to him and the son will be subject to the one who subjected all things to him so that God may be all in all. That's verse 28. I think you're mixing up versus specific verse in Revelation. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. It is at the end of Revelations.

So wait, so God will let the devil see him and not us. It's the last chapter. It's the last chapter. I don't know. It's the very last in the revelations.

The very last chapter. So yeah. Okay. Then you need to show me the verse.

It says that I'm not familiar with that. Okay. Maybe you can call that tomorrow. I'll call you.

I'll call you back tomorrow. But listen, another thing to think about Matt, why would God let the devil see him because you know the devil saw him, but he wouldn't let us. God's gonna let us see him.

The father. No, he's not. No, he's not. Hold on. Hold on. Stop. Stop. Stop. You will not see the father. Call back tomorrow.

Whoa. Anyway, I hope the guy gets actual scriptures for that. Hey, may the Lord bless you and by His grace, go back on there tomorrow. We'll talk to you then. Have a good evening everyone. God bless. Bye. Another program powered by the Truth Network.