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Please subscribe to the channel. Okay, good deal. Could it have been taught, this is what I got from you, could it have been taught with no modifications in a non-Christian church like with Roman Catholicism, Mormonism, etc.? Would it be accepted in those? Yeah.

Okay. Were there any apologetics? For example, would anyone in the mass be able to defend the teaching you just taught, if challenged, such as taking scripture you spoke of literally with no context? Wait, did you say in the mass? Yeah, like isn't the audience the mass? Oh, I thought you'd like the Catholic mass. You mean the congregation, right? Okay, that would be the, alright. Yeah, so the congregation, what about the congregation? It was a, were there any apologetics?

For example, would anyone in the congregation be able to defend the teaching the pastor just taught, if challenged, such as taking scripture they spoke of literally with no context? Okay, could I write a bunch of notes? Go ahead.

Which else? And the question directly for the pastor, do you sharpen your own iron with others or provide services where it takes place for you or others outside of sermons for the congregation? So there are things, okay, you missed something that's critical and vital, a couple things, okay?

Okay. So is the sermon true to the text, alright? So we ask if it's true to the text, does it, does these, some pastors have done this, they'll take a sermon.

They might take a sermon like John 3.16, you know, God Loved the World, and then talk about politics. Nothing wrong talking about politics in the pulpit, but that's not the verse for that, okay? It would be different verses.

So sometimes they'll use the scriptures for a pet peeve and that's, that you've got to watch out for. So is it true to the text? Is it exegetical? And that means, is it a sermon that looks at the text and derives out of the text, okay? Is it Christocentric?

John 5 and 39, Jesus says the scriptures bear witness of him. So ultimately the sermon must be about Christ, whether it's the Old Testament or New Testament, Christ must be found in it. And that's the issue of whether or not it could be accepted in a cult church like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, false churches like Roman Catholicism and things like that. So Christocentricity, all right, and cross-centered. Because we don't want to have what's called moralism, be good because the Ten Commandments says be good, don't lie.

Okay, so we don't lie, that's what we think. Well, a Mormon could accept that, that's true. But what if the sermon was something like, the reason we don't lie is because Jesus, who's God in flesh, second person of the Trinity, he became flesh and paid the price for our redemptive work so that we're justified by grace alone and indwelt by him alone, by the Lord Jesus Christ.

And of this, this is why we follow him and serve him, et cetera, et cetera. So what I just said could not be retained in a Mormon, a church, a Jehovah's Witness church or a Roman Catholic Church or it's an Orthodox Church, by that little statement. But most pastors aren't skilled enough not to just knock them, to be able to say statements like that, because they're too busy being pastors, not apologists, you know. So that's just an issue. Which I, my own personal belief, I think a pastor should work with an apologist. Dude. Maybe not at the pulpit, but.

I would shake your hand right now if I was in the room with you. I'm not kidding. I'm absolutely not kidding.

No, I'm not joking at all. One of the things I've suggested is that they have in a circuit of churches, a geographical area denomination, they have one or two or three people, male or female too, because women can be good apologists as well. But where they have access to somebody who goes around teaching at different churches on different theological issues and he's the apologist or she is, but he's the apologist. And I think it's necessary, particularly in this world climate that we are in, and I still do with the gospel, because there's a lot of questions the average pastor just can't answer. And I'm not knocking pastors for that, okay.

They don't get to do what I do full-time and answer questions a lot and debate it all the time. They're doing weddings and funerals and counseling and and working with, you know, the church people they got to work with and doing a sermon and coordinating, you know, the worship liturgy and things that happen. And so I'm not knocking them, okay. But the Bible says that there are different offices within the church and so I totally agree that pastors should be having access to an apologist of some sort and say, hey, I got a question about this or that. And I've had pastors do that, a few, who've called me up and said, hey, I got a question. And I'm saying, look, I'm the great guy, I know all this stuff, but I have had a few every now and then call me up and say, what do you think about this? And, you know, I give my opinion. And not that I, you know, I'm the guy, but I think it's a very good idea that there should be an apologist or trained theologian, highly trained theologian, that they have access to and can work with.

And I think it's good. That's a good idea. Part of this too is like, I guess part of the influence of why I'm even thinking of stuff like this is that I'm at a point where I don't find much value out of sermons anymore. I feel that I get way more efficiency out of potentially learning from a course or something like that, then actually listen to some mindset and then a call of action within a sermon that takes place over 20 minutes out of an hour.

Yeah. Um, I wrote some other notes here. I personally have struggled, I struggle with sermons and it makes sense from, you know, me, I could teach these things and, and I'm always looking for something new in a sermon.

I'm not going to hear too much. So what I've done is, is just humbled myself and just said, Lord, teach me through this person. Teach me what is there?

I don't know. I don't know everything. Teach me. And, and that's the attitude to have, but I understand what you're saying now. Here's something else though, that, uh, needs to be addressed in a lot of sermons today. And this is simply the thing of illustrations. When a pastor uses an illustration to prepare you for the text that could be good or bad. I remember one church I went to earlier this year when I was checking out churches and he, uh, this one guest pastor gave a three, four minute intro illustration. I didn't even know what text he's going to go to the sermon's going. And it was a quote from a book of a woman and it went on and on and then got to the text.

Well, there's a lot in the text that he could have gotten to and he went back to the book about talking about this. And I just walked out of the church. I did. I literally got up in the sermon and walked out. I'm done.

I haven't been back since. And so I went to a different church and I met with the pastor there and he's reformed and he determines our quality. But when illustration is used in order to prepare us, it can be good or bad. If the illustration becomes the sermon, that's bad. If the illustration serves the sermon, that's okay. Does that make sense? Mm hmm.

I got it. You should use illustration as a supporting tool, not as the main tooth of it. Right, right. And another thing is don't turn the sermon into seven steps to a better whatever. Another thing is it God's sovereignty or versus man's sovereignty.

These are underlying principles. Now, here's the thing. So what I'm looking at right now, let me say how many notes we've got from what you've said and what I've said.

Let me just get to this where I can get to how many it will do a number thing. That's 13 things so far. Do apologetics. You can't do all that in one sermon.

So I agree. You know, if a guest preacher comes in, you're interviewing him for a pastorate position. He comes in and preaches one sermon.

The kind of things you'd look for generically would be, is it exegetical? Is it faithful to the text? Can he deliver it well?

Is he delivering it in a monotone? Ladies and gentlemen, please turn to John 3 16. Okay, now let's talk. Okay. And so here we go.

You know, that will put people to sleep. So there's delivery also. And does use an illustration? Well, it depends.

You know, it's okay. Is the illustration serving? A lot of times that I've noticed with sermons that people want the sermons, the pastors want to prep the people for the word of God. And they don't want to let the power of the word of God out.

They want to restrain it or make it palatable to people instead of just saying, this is what it says. I remember once I preached a sermon on why not to use the Lord's name in vain, because I noticed that people in this church, I was a guest preacher over a couple of years and every now and then they asked me back to preach. And I noticed that they were using the Lord's name in vain. And I, I, um, before the sermon, I conducted a little experiment and I had everybody stand up, right.

As I'm beginning my sermons, I remember to stand up. I want everybody to look at the exit signs and they all did. I said, now, you know where they are. Okay, please sit down. Thank you very much. Love everybody here.

I know guys are great. I'm going to preach a sermon. Feel free to leave anytime during the sermon, because I'm going to offensive. And I spoke about, Oh, I did. I absolutely did. And I said, some of you are using the Lord's name in vain. I know who you are.

I'm not going to mention any names. I'm not going to give you weird looks, but you need to stop and let me go through this. Let's go to Exodus 20, talk about the majesty of God and how it's manifested in the cross or what you're bought for.

And they thanked me afterwards. So that's an illustration that serves the purpose. You see, uh, but hold on. We've got a break. This is a good topic.

Important topic. Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages, please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show. We had a meeting today at the staff, uh, intergalactic headquarters online, and, uh, they made a mention that I got to do something. Let's see if they've done it in the private. There's a post to remind me to do something on the air.

And, uh, Oh, Laura did it. I'm supposed to plug the website, karm.org, you know, do the radio here, but I believe we're doing radio now about 21 years, but we're doing the website for almost 29 and karm.org, C A R M dot O R G. So, uh, you can check it out. Got a lot of stuff in there.

It's a Christian apologetics research ministry. I've written about 6,000 articles. That's what the estimate is that we've gone through. So, uh, there you go. Okay.

There we go. Let's go. Okay. Let's get back on with Alan. All right, Alan, welcome back on the air. Well, thank you, man. Okay.

Where were we before the break? Forget, uh, apologists working with pastors. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. And also, um, the, the pastor should have a familiarity with the, the attacks on the Christian faith that are occurring when I used to do a lot of problems pulpit supply in Southern California. And, uh, so two or three years worth, I would just drive here and there sometimes preaching in three different churches in one day. And I loved it.

It was great. And, uh, so my style is a little bit different. I, I, you know, I like to have a lapel mic or a head mic and I walk around and I move and I get excited.

I get, I don't just sit in a monotone. I'm very animated when I preach. And, um, and so I, and I also will teach and I teach doctrine. I almost always will teach a doctrinal point during a sermon because people need to hear that kind of stuff.

And people are always receptive to that. So does the pastor know his doctrine very well? And that's a question because in a sermon, the pastor hopefully knows the difference between the economic and ontological Trinity, the hypostatic union and the communicatio idiomatum, justification and sanctification, eutachianism and monophysitism. He should know these things.

And, uh, because he's supposed to know how to refute error and teach sound doctrine. So if I were on the committee to examine a, uh, a pastor, I'd say, I'm going to ask you some questions. I don't expect you to get them all right. Okay. And I'm going to ask you some tough ones and see what he says. And, uh, you know, the whole thing needs to be examined. A man of God does and a sermon in particular. Okay.

What would you recommend? I know I haven't gone through your entire, all three of your courses online, but what was there any particular college or course online that isn't yours that you recommend? You know, I, there are, but I just don't know of them. I'm not saying I've got them all down. Right. But I know that RC spruals, ministry has a lot of good stuff.

I believe it does. It's a good coursework. So I, you know, I'd recommend them and I think maybe Charlie will, he knows a lot of stuff. You might put it in the private chat. He knows other courses, uh, other websites with other courses.

That's a really good idea actually, is to research other ones and recommend that group with his course and that course. Um, but here's another, what's that? What's that? Maybe to sharpen your own iron too, you know? Oh, Oh, I'm always learning from people, you know, I really am. And, and I enjoy being corrected and learning and having people who don't know much say something profound that I just go, Whoa, that was good. And I love that.

And it happens, you know, and praise God. So, uh, I would, you know, I'd take other courses. I need to write a course on, uh, on hermeneutics, biblical interpretation. And I'd like to do a video on how to write a sermon. Not that I'm a great sermon preacher, but I learned some good stuff from some good people in seminary and I applied them to sermons that I've seen and heard as, you know, blowing it here, they're blowing it here, blowing it there. And, um, let me tell you a story once, just for fun. I went to a black church in San Diego, a friend of mine in seminary, black guy. And he goes, dude, I come to my church.

He goes, yeah, let's go. And so, Oh, it was wonderful. I love that energy. I love that. I want a church like that that's reformed.

Oh, I would go. But at any rate, so it was great, you know, and just full of love and great people. And the pastor walked out and when the pastor walked out, the congregation stood up and applauded. And I didn't like that. And I'm not applauding for some guy. And I said to my friend, they go, what's going on here? Why are they applauding for this guy?

You know, I mean, you know, and he goes, Oh, Matt, you don't understand. They're not applauding for the man. They're applauding for the man who's bringing the word of God. It's common. The word of God's coming.

And I started clapping, you know, like, Hey, that's fine with me. And you see there's so many different contexts in different ways that sermons are delivered. We've got to be gracious. And one sermon doesn't make a man, you know, make or break. Well, hopefully he denies the Trinity of the deity of Christ in a sermon. Okay.

That would break them. But yeah, you know, you know, once I actually said it, a sermon at a church had been at many times preaching the elders, you know, after the sermon, they come down, they're smiling and they're rocking on their heels, you know? And I said, what is it? You know what you said?

We have it on recording. I said, what did I say during the sermon? During the sermon, they go, what'd I say? He goes, you said, quote, Jesus is not God. I said, no, I didn't. But they were laughing, you know, because it was just, you know, you misspeak. And, and I said, no, I didn't.

He goes, yes you did. But we knew, we knew what you meant here when you said it, you have mixed messed up. So, you know, things happen. And, uh, and here's another thing to watch for. Here's another thing.

This is a serious thing. What does the minister do when he messes up? Okay. When he messes up in a sermon, how does he handle it?

That's a, that's a very infrequently asked question. Uh, which I've done before, you know, you mess up, you say something that didn't come out right. And you go, you know, I did not come out right.

Let me try it again. And then, you know, okay. Sometimes what they'll want to do is bury their mistake and hide it.

No, no, no, no, no. You know, you know, just go, you say, yeah, I said that wrong. I got the wrong verse or whatever. And you just move on.

And that's a small point, but I think it's a good point. Yeah. I'm looking for, I'm looking for a church. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. It's all good. Yeah.

Right now I'm looking for a church, but like, as you know, my concerns, I feel it's like going to be an uphill battle to find something that I find acceptable basically. Yeah. With you.

Oh, I'm with you. Oh, I could really complain about sermons. That's a whole nother thing.

If the woman pastor, you don't forget it. You get a value. There's so many issues. Yup.

And does a person hold up to or support positive confession, you know, God wants you healthy and wealthy, and you deserve better and you deserve this because you're a child of God and, you know, all this idiocy. So yeah. Yup. Yeah.

One of the big ones is I ideally don't want to go to a church that, where the pastor is teaching Armenian concepts. Yeah. Okay. If that's your, uh, yeah.

Well, you know, I used to attend Calvary chapel for years and they were Armenian and I learned and the pastor and I are still friends and, uh, I could do that, but Hey, you know, it just depends on how it's done, how it's delivered. So yeah. Okay.

Well, there's the music. Perfect timing. All right, buddy. We're going to get going. Okay. I'm glad you called about that. Thank you, Matt. All right.

God bless. And next we're going to get to Jermaine from California about Trump and the interesting conversation. And if you want, give me a call 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show on this lovely Friday. If you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276.

Let's get to Jermaine from California. Welcome. You're on the air.

Oh, hi, Matt. Just, uh, join the show so far. Well, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. So what do you got, man?

Yes. Well, I had a question about the, the, uh, uh, attempted assassination on a former president Trump. So I was taking a look at it at how things kind of went down.

And I used to work in, in the security field, not at that level, but I have friends who have worked for Mr. Musk out here in the San Francisco area and other prominent people. And you can, in my opinion, there, there's some things that you'll need me to kind of question how something like that could happen, but the fact that it did happen, the way the events transpired, it would almost have to be like a perfect storm scenario for someone not to get injured in that. And I just was curious about your thoughts of this possibly being like even divine intervention. And when I say that, I want to preface it with a lot of people. I know there's a big polarization around Mr. Trump, and I do believe a lot of it is media driven. Um, you know, they've done everything to demonize this man beyond a human. And I've heard some very, very concerning thoughts and people who were supposed to be Christian and you know, I, myself, I'm, I am African American, not that it should matter, but I've never actually seen so many African Americans rooting for someone, but they don't get seen on camera.

They're not, it's not popular because the media doesn't seem to want to push that narrative. Now, when I was talking to someone about how this whole thing happened, I can see why they would think it was staged, but they forget that, um, anyone who's watched this guy for a while seeing him, he's, he's actually a brilliant ad-libber and he's able to kind of turn on a dime and make something out of nothing for moments that are priceless on television. I can understand that, but the way things happen is like there's no way in the world someone would stage something that close to their head.

I just don't believe that you'd, you'd have to have the best marksman in all of history and then ask that marksman to sacrifice himself and die. It just makes no sense. But I was thinking it would divine, divinely inspired like, Hey, this person has a purpose here and he's not leaving until God says so. So I was just wanting to hear your thoughts on that. I know people are all over the map right now. Yes.

Um, last week, so in the third Thursday of each month, we meet at my house, people come over and we just talk, we have discussions, open discussion, anything you want to talk about. And one of the topics that came up was exactly that was a divine intervention. And the answer is, who knows? We don't know if it was, we don't know if it wasn't, we can't say it was, we can't say it wasn't. It could have just been coincidence, but even coincidences work within the sovereign will of God. And it's certainly possible that God has raised up Trump for something just as he raised up Cyrus, Neil Testament, who was bad. I'm not saying Trump is bad. I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying God raises up people for doing what he wants to do and the ultimate plan. And we certainly know that our government needs to be cleaned out and Trump would be the one to do it if he's going to do it.

Personally, I think there are going to be another attempt on his life and they won't miss it. Next time. That's good. I don't trust the left. Okay. So I have a friend who's, uh, who did security in Iraq. He was trained by the CIA and we went over half hour period where he just talked about the mistakes, the omissions, the downright, uh, how to say pull politely the incorrect procedures that were routinely overlooked.

It should never have happened. So just like you said, you know, um, you can't tell for sure. Don't know, but is it from God? Is it not?

How's it work? You can start to wonder, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's fair. That's a good answer. Um, I do agree with you.

I think that there absolutely would be some other attempt. It just seems like they're deathly afraid of this person getting into office. And you know, me personally, I, I just pray for him.

I pray for salvation as well. And just as I'm a stronger, I pray for the current administration as well. You know, I really, I just 180 degrees disagree with everything they've done because my life was much better under the former president.

I'm not on any particular party side. It's just, I've never seen people, but my issues go way beyond just one or two things. Those, those are another shows, but the whole vaccine mandates, the business is shutting down, the cry running rampant. I got to witness that firsthand. You know, I'm, I'm near the city of Oakland, California was very, very violent and, oh yes, absolutely. I actually was one of the reasons I, I'll just say I was supposed to be in law enforcement. I actually graduated in the Academy and that's why I look at things a little differently as far as how things are set up. But I'm very grateful that I had to go through that test because I personally did not, I have no problem with anyone making a personal decision, but I did not feel it was right for me to take something that I felt was experimental and not necessary since I had already recovered from COVID. So, um, when I saw mandates come down, I'm glad I went through that because since we're in the first, I guess first world, we don't have to go through a lot of tests.

That was a real test for me. And I'm glad God showed me you can absolutely sustain me through anything, but it did cost me a couple of career opportunities at the time. But again, it's hard for me to really look at the current president and not have to pray about how I feel just based on some of the things I saw. But I still, that is the president that God allowed that person to be there.

I pray for him, pray for salvation, like anybody else. And now I know we're not electing ministers and, you know, evangelist apologists, but they are our leaders. So I'll just do what I'm supposed to do.

But I've never seen this kind of vitriol and organized pain for one person in my life, but not in this country. Well, we have nobody waiting. I'd like you to stay on it because this is interesting stuff, you know. Absolutely. But I had a question for you.

Okay. You said you're African American. Have you noticed a change in polarity in the community that you, in the African American community about who they support and stuff?

Have you noticed a difference? You know, actually, yes. Um, I laugh because my, my, uh, mother who's deceased now, unfortunately she passed a couple of years ago.

I have questions about that, but that's another cell. She had to die suddenly in her sleep thing. And we used to go at it and love my mom and that, but she was staunchly hardcore Democrat to the end, like to the day that she would fight you with her cane if she could. And I used to wonder like, what is going on with these people? I felt like I had taken a different view of things since I was a kid, but I see there are traditionally a lot of African Americans, minorities, and, you know, seems like like poor Caucasians or are shifted to automatically be in the democratic party. But I did see a shift. I actually saw it starting a couple of years ago and the prices of food started going up.

And then, and you know, there's no other way to say this. You know, I've lived near San Francisco all my life. I grew up around the city, but I've never, I never saw what looked like the push for perversion until this current administration where it seems like they were promoting it and speaking very blasphemously, like just God, God bless you for, for trans lifestyle. That when I saw that, that's when I started to see the conversation change because a lot of African Americans traditionally and Latino families as well, they're actually more conservative socially. And when I saw some of these things being pushed in schools were people I knew who they had to go to school to fight for their children, not to participate in the forest pride events or forced a pride project. That's when the questions had to actually be asked, I hate what's going on.

And I noticed people saying, Hey, you know what? I couldn't stand the former president, but I didn't have to go through this. And I'm no longer afraid of the boogeyman as one person told me. So I did see a change more towards people at least willing to speak about Trump in a, in a positive light. And the issue I ran into is if you make any defense at all for me, I'm like you, I look at like, or at least I would assume, I just look at things logically and fairly. And if I, someone asked me, was your life better under the former president?

I would say, yes. But when you do that automatically, they're like, Oh, you're a, you're a Trumper. I said, that's not what I said. You asked me if life is better regardless of who's in power. If it happened to be someone you don't like, well, then so clear the answer to my question is, yeah, we got a break, man. We got a break. So hold on. But if they say, Oh, you're a Trumper.

They're saying, Oh, so Trump is one who gives you a better life. You know, but, uh, Hey, hold on. We'll be right back. Okay. Hey folks, we've got our last break. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276.

I'm kind of enjoying the conversation, so we'll see how it continues. Let's be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. I just want to remind you to check out our website, CARM.org.

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And we've got thousands of articles there and a multitude of topics. All right. Let's get back to Jermaine. Are you still there, buddy? Oh, yes I am. Okay. So I forgot where we were before the break. Um, you're asking me if African-Americans had changed their tune versus Trump. Yeah.

Sorry about that. That went on a little tangent. It's kind of an emotional thing for me family-wise, but I would say yes. I would say a lot of, uh, the ones I know, yes. Absolutely. Good.

Yeah. That's what I've been seeing in polls and stuff like that. And, uh, with, uh, Hispanics as well, they're, they're moving away from the Democratic party. Here's the thing I'm concerned about is that somehow whoever runs for the Democratic position somehow wins because the polls are all showing all the stuff I've seen everything that Trump should just win hands down if the election were today. And so what if there's another concern, what if somehow Biden's still in and he somehow wins and you'd know for a fact it was corruption. And then what I'm concerned about is the sparking of a civil war because of that. I'm concerned, you know? Yeah. Um, to be honest with you, I think I, unfortunately I believe we would see some kind of conflict. I don't know what that would look like.

I don't think it would look like the movies, but I think you see precursors of it in our streets where you're seeing these just bands of young people and criminals who are just flash mobbing stores and robbing people, breaking car windows. And I've worked with young people. I'll just say this when they think you're cool, they tell you things and they may not be as vocal as we would like them to be, but they are paying attention. We have politicians who, when they didn't like one, one party didn't like someone and they said, Hey, confront them in the streets and make their life uncomfortable. Well, they're just paying attention. They're, they're doing what you say and not what you do. And so I think you'll see a lot more of that because right now, especially in parts of California, it's, it's virtually anything goes cause they know there's not enough officers.

There's a, the laws are very lenient. I literally saw two young men thank the San Francisco DA and thank the mayor for being so lenient because they don't have to do it any real time. And they were literally laughing.

And I have family who works in both of those departments and literally laughing at the fact that they knew that unless it was over a certain amount of money, they can get away with virtually anything. And, and they're, they're cataloging it and putting it online and going viral for it and getting some, some, uh, from accolade on the streets. But it's what they say they want it. So I would just be very careful that even thinking of anything corrupt, like just what kind of world are you really trying to live in? Yeah. Yeah. It's a concern that I have. And, um, that very thing of just, uh, gangs coming in and, and destroying people's livelihood, stealing my opinion is they need to be dealt with quickly and harshly and it needs to be stopped. You can't have a society function that way, but this is what I grew up in California mostly.

And, uh, I wouldn't go back there if you paid me, you know, it's, it's called the people's Republic of California. I know you're still there, but you know, I get it. Yeah. Yeah.

Just for the time being. Um, yeah, but I will say the, the influx of illegal immigration has always has, has been a problem, but never to this extent. That also is something I forgot to mention earlier that that has radically transformed people's opinions of the current administration at least. And I know I've heard people mention like, Hey, this is starting to affect me now because first it was over a sanctuary city. And again, not every single person is a criminal, but a whole lot.

The reality is the comfortable thing is a whole lot of them are. And if I was in a country where I was going to face harsh prosecution and I heard all I have to do is make it to a border because they're very lenient over here, I'm going to come over there too. And that has really radically affected people, uh, in an unexpected way, because they're seeing the effects of when you have people, there's no identification of who they are and what they've done. And now they're in your community amongst your, your family or people, you know, I'm a godly person.

I can love everybody, but I need to know who you are. And if you have some kind of record that makes you dangerous and that the, the influx of crime that's come with that not only has it changed the position politically, I'm starting to see things that I didn't think I was seeing. I'm seeing like people rationalize going back to the organized crime members here in California and other places where I, this is my prediction is you're going to see like the return of things like the mafia and local gangs, people going to those entities because they feel like they have to, to, in order to combat these other groups who are forming their own gangs and forming their own, you know, just enterprises of opportunity where they can take over homes and squad and take advantage of the law. So it was really creating the scenario where it will be some kind of conflict. I don't know what to call it, but if things go wrong and this isn't something that has a stop put to it quickly, then yeah, we're going to see a whole different world in the next few years. Yeah.

Yeah. In California, unfortunately, is, is like an experimental battleground and it's been that way for a long time and they push things. My wife and I left there because we couldn't afford a home and we didn't want to raise our kids in the liberal idiocy that was going on.

We moved to Idaho and now the Californians are moving here to Idaho and bringing their, uh, their socialist, uh, stupidity with them. And, uh, it's bad, but yeah. You know, well, I'm hoping that, uh, Trump doesn't get assassinated. I think there's gonna be another attempt and, uh, they'll be more careful next time.

But I think what happened here in this one, my opinion is the incompetency of the, the, the people around him was so obvious when you're watching what they do, like that woman who, who couldn't hold her gun. Now I can see you miss it once, but you know, how many times have you gave up? Yeah, it's ridiculous. And I just, I've seen that happen. Yes.

Yeah. And you don't listen to the person that you were protecting. Once they're down in the ground and the threat is imminent right there, you get them off the ground, you got to pick them up. And so, you know, on, on the inner circle, why do you have women? Uh, because they have to be strong enough to pick up a man and run with them and you want men to do that. So why would, you know, this is my friend who knows a lot about this was bringing these things up and yeah.

Yeah. Um, I, I think that might be, and I, you know, I, I know a lot of very capable women. Um, one lady who's, you know, got a very good rank over in the Bay area and she's, but she's only like five feet high. She's got courage, but she would never put herself in that situation. She would order someone under her.

Who's bigger to handle something like that. I just, I don't, I can't say what, what the mentality was, but if you can't holster your weapon, um, you're a danger to everybody around you. And that's just really embarrassing.

If they had any respect, they would just take themselves out of that position. But yeah, I couldn't explain that without trying to solve two horses. It made no sense to me. It's really, it's embarrassing.

Yeah, it was. Now our head's going to roll and that's the question, but I don't do so. Yeah. But, uh, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.

This is an important topic. We need to be as Christians to be praying for, for whoever God wants to be in that position. And I pray that I pray that Trump, I mean, uh, that, uh, the Biden, uh, crime family will become Christian and, uh, they'll get saved. Yes. That's, you know, that's, that's what we need, but we're getting what we deserve in this country.

And I want a bit of a Christian seat, but that's another topic. Yeah. Yeah. I wish you and I were neighbors, man. We'd be, uh, we'd be talking. It's okay. You know, we were going to be virtual neighbors.

On the show. So yeah, I'll definitely be calling back with, uh, some more credit. You're one of the few people that willing to put yourself out there to answer. So God bless you for that. Well, I try.

I've got a lot to learn and, um, you know, praise God and, and thanks for your service, what you've done and the levels that you have tried to and appreciate that. Okay. All right.

Thank you. All right. All right, man.

Well, God bless. Call back anytime. Okay.

All right. I enjoyed that call. That was a good call. Let's get to Rachel from Utah. Rachel.

Welcome. You're on the air. Rachel, are you there?

Might take a little bit for the cycle to come through. So looking to Rachel and, uh, let's see if she comes to the phone because there's a question she's got about the Scofield reference Bible, apparently. And I'd like to know what that is.

That question. We can talk about it a little bit. Let's see if she comes on. I'm stalling, as you can tell, trying to give her time to get to the phone.

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