Matt Slick Live Broadcast of 02-8-2024

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. If you're a newbie, I'll introduce myself for the newbies who might be listening. Matt Slick is my real name, S-L-I-C-K. Today is a wonderful day, February 8th, 2024. I'm a Christian apologist.

I defend the Christian faith, answer difficult questions. Tonight, as a matter of fact, in three hours from now, which is 9 p.m. Eastern time, I'm supposed to be on, I'm going to make sure about this, discussing stuff on 7th-day Adventism, and what it teaches, and some other issues and things like that. So, let's see, karm.org forward slash calendar, that's where you can find out about that.

Karm, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G, forward slash calendar. I don't know if that's on. Oh, I don't have it on there tonight. I've got to do that. And then, on February 17th, I'll be in Draper, Utah, which is a half hour south of Salt Lake, and I'll be speaking on what does it take to defend the Christian faith. And also, I just talked to Eric Johnson about an hour or so ago. Eric's a great guy, works with Mormonism Research Ministry. He does these, by the way, he does these trips overseas, you know, Israel and Turkey and stuff like that.

They're awesome. I've been on two of his. He does them a lot, and he sets them up and leads groups over. So, we're having a great time.

He does that. Oh, and his wife's awesome, too. His wife, Terry, is great. I hope she's listening and smiling. So, Eric asked me, he said, hey, what do you think about, you know, what day are you coming down? I said, well, coming down Friday, you know, speak on Saturday morning.

He said, what about coming down Friday early enough to speak, say, at 5 o'clock at the center, at the Utah Christian Research Center? And I said, sure, and I'll be talking on the Trinity. So, I'm going to give a little 20-minute dissertation thing on the Trinity, and then if anybody shows up, we'll see, because I don't know how it's going to be. Then I'll just do Q&A. So, just so you know, I have been studying the Trinity a great deal, and I've written on it, written a lot of articles on it. I've defended it numerous times.

Now, I was doing a doctorate degree, and I dropped out because I'm just way overloaded with stuff, and I can't even keep up with stuff I've got here going. But I was thinking about doing a dissertation on the Trinity as a necessary precondition for intelligibility and dealing with all kinds of stuff out of it. I mean, that's how much I'm involved with defending and discussing the doctrine of the Trinity. So, you know, I really, really like it. I don't know why, but I really like discussing and defending the doctrine of the Trinity.

I do. So, anyway, if that sounds interesting to you, I'd do the Trinity thing that would be on the 16th of February. It would be a week from tomorrow.

A week from tomorrow, I'm going to head down there and I'll come back on Sunday because I've got to go speak at another place on Tuesday. So, you know, I've got a lot going on. All right. All right.

I think that is about it. And if you want to, call me, 877-207-2276. And if you want to email me, you can do that by just sending an email to info at karm.org. And just put in the subject title, radio question, radio comment, or something like that. Let's get to Phillip from North Carolina. Phillip, welcome. You're on the air.

Hi, Matt. Thanks for taking my call. I read the Bill Storter commentary on Revelation, and I took the time doing it, and it led me to think, well, Bill, you need to be studying Daniel. So I read the DeGood commentary on Daniel, and then I got the Edward Young commentary on Daniel. Well, the reason I'm calling is that chapter 12, verse 7.

I was hoping you could read that and shed some light on it. If you've read commentaries on this, on Daniel, you could shed more light than I could, but I'd be glad to read it. It says, I heard the man dressed in linen who was above the waters of the river.

You're breathing into the mic, just so you know. I heard the man dressed in linen who was above the waters of the river as he raised his right hand and is left toward heaven and swore by him who lives forever that it would be a time, times, and half a time, and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed. So, pre-tribulation rapture or tribulation period, is that what they're looking at at this?

Is that what they're saying? Well, I'm the old kind of guy, and, you know, the disciples, when Christ was arrested, it's like the disciples were scattered. And I'm wondering, all these things will be completed. Not much of the prophecies in Daniel are talking about Antiochus Epiphanes. Antiochus Epiphanes, yeah. It's, you know, so much of this stuff is kind of reviewed in Revelation, and so I'm thinking, well, and I had a professor long ago who kind of led me to believe that the prophecies are fulfilled kind of repetitiously, and he died, and I can't get his insight on it anymore. Yeah, so did he mention the word heptatic, which is a cycle of seven. I don't remember that. Did he say Revelation was in a group of sevens?

Just curious. Oh, right. Because there's a view of Revelation that says it's seven churches, seven spirits, and seven views of the same thing.

There's some interesting information on that. So when he says all these things are in cycles, repeated, that would fit that model. So as far as this goes, I've heard this so many times, but used, and I don't know if it is or isn't, but so many times used as a justification for the great tribulation period, and then when these things are completed, it's going to hit the fan the first part of the seven years, so time times and half of time, so year, year, and half of years, or something like that. Time, was it time times, plural, and half of time.

So a time is singular, times is plural, so they say two, so it's one plus two, and then half of time, that would be half, so that's three and a half, and that's one of the reasons they say that. Well, C. Young said that when time, times, and half of time was used the first time in Daniel, it was written in Aramaic, and all that was one word, but then by the time you get to chapter 12, it's written in Hebrew again, and so it's a different word for time, times, and half of time, and that in itself is a little puzzling. Well, when someone says it was originally written in Aramaic, they may know something I don't know, but I want to say, okay, is this a place in Daniel where it's written in Aramaic?

Yeah, yeah. And so if it is in the Aramaic in the actual text, then okay. So is this something I'd have to study and see? But anyway, I don't know if we've concluded anything.

Man, you are totally breathing on the phone there, guy. So is there something, I mean, well, I'm not sure what to ask now, because what about it? The shattering of the holy people is what disturbs me. I mean, the power of the holy people, it's like the Holy Spirit is the power of the Holy Spirit, right?

I mean, the Holy Spirit is the power of the holy people. The word there is hand in Hebrew, yad, and that's what the notes say. And it's translated as times, time, power, eight, six times, oh, tenons, oh, I see, the, side.

That's the thing about Hebrew is it can be translated, one word can be translated many different ways. So, shattering of the power of the holy people, but my note says literally hand. So that's what, you know, so it's like say hand or the power of the people. Well, people can have power. We understand the Holy Spirit is power of things, but people can have power too.

They can have an army, you know, they can have nukes, you know, they can have all kinds of stuff. So just not sure what is meant by that. Reading Jung, I got the impression that there's all these well-educated people all through history that have differing views. And so, if I'm confused, I feel like, well, it's not that big of a crisis, you know.

That's right. I totally agree that there have been excellent scholars all throughout history who have got different opinions. And that's why a lot of times with something like this, if I've studied it recently and I remember, I'll say, well, here are the views that scholars have said.

And then I'll say, I don't even know which one it is or whatever. And that's how it often is with prophecy. But what I think is also interesting in Daniel 12 is verse 4. But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book. Until the end of time, many people will go back and forth and knowledge will increase. Did you study that verse also, what that might mean?

Oh, yeah. Tell me what they say. They may be traveling back and forth pursuing knowledge. And some say traveling back and forth implies great distances and knowledge will increase, which is what's happening now.

So some are saying it could be fulfilled now. You know, it's just so many views. I wish I was an expert on it, but I don't. If I were an expert on it, I'd be saying the same thing I'm saying now. Well, here's a view, here's a view, and here's a view. Well, you've helped me a lot with other things. I just wanted to run that by you and see if you had more to help me get clarity of mind over it.

Well, I wish I was able to help you more. I just don't know. I'm familiar with a lot of stuff in Daniel and Ezekiel and Revelation and Matthew and stuff like that, but I'm so busy defending the faith. Well, see that word, shattering? I've seen footnotes where it said scatter, scattering. And so somehow I came across that thing about the disciples being scattered when Christ was arrested. Well, it says, looking at the word, it's nafatz in Hebrew, and it's translated as break in pieces, nine times, scatter. This is in the King James. Scatter three times, break three times, dash, discharged, dispersed, overspread, dash into pieces, things like that. So it has that kind of a meaning.

They finish shattering, scattering. Yeah, I think both of those work. Okay. And so that power they're talking about, that may not have anything to do with the Holy Spirit, I guess, right?

It may not. That's right. There's all kinds of nuances. You know, I remember reading once, or hearing, I can't remember now, it's been so long. In 2 Thessalonians 2, for example, just as you hear these little things and you go, whoa, that's interesting. What does that mean?

How does it affect stuff? And so in 2 Thessalonians 2, it talks about he's held back until the one who restrains is removed. And what restrains him now so that in his time he'll be removed, and the word restrained in the second usage, I've got to find it, when he's taken out of the way, doesn't mean removed and doesn't exist, but can be like you're in a doorway, you're still in a doorway, you just turn aside so that someone can pass through and you're still there. See, all these little nuances. There's the music. Hold on, buddy.

Well, see, that told me about the hospital thing. Hold on, we've got to break. Okay, so, hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.

If you want to give me a call, all I have to do is dial 877-207-2276. Let's get to Phillip from North Carolina. Phillip, welcome, you're back on the air. I guess we lost him? Well, we'll see. I'm here.

Oh, I've got to hit the right button the right way. So I read a little bit of a commentary during the break on that, on Daniel 12-7, and this one was saying that the Antichrist, when he comes into Israel, there's supposed to be an attack on Israel, and Israel's going to defeat or the Antichrist is going to defeat the attackers. There will be a tribulation period or the seven-year period set up, and in the middle of it is when he starts attacking and going really foul attacking Israel.

And persecution will be huge, and that's when Israel's power is broken. So that's what another commentary said. Oh, okay.

So, yeah, there's lots of views. You mentioned the restrainer thing from the Thessalonians? Yeah. That's the one thing about the Amil belief I've got that puzzles me. The female people, they're like, oh, we'll all get raptured, and then the restrainer will be gone.

Yeah. And so I wasn't sure how an Amil person looks at that. Well, I'm Amil, and how I look at it is there's going to be a seven-year tribulation, and the Antichrist is going to make a covenant with Israel.

There will be peace for three and a half years, and then the Antichrist will attack Israel, start persecuting them and the Christians, and that is going to get so bad that the nations, the world nations, are going to come together in Armageddon, Armageddon, the valley. I've been there. I've seen it.

It's amazingly big and flat, like a round dish 30 miles across, 40 miles across, and it's kind of flat with this ridge on the outside. It's interesting. And so they'll come in and battle. And in my opinion, this is just my opinion, that Genesis 2.17, when God said to Adam, the day that you eat of the fruit, you will die. I believe he was talking not only to Adam but to all mankind. The way to this thing is death, Romans 6.23, and in Matthew 24.22, Jesus says, if those days be not cut short, no flesh would be left. So my conclusion is that things are going to get so bad. There's going to be a gigantic celestial I-told-you-so that started in Genesis 2.17, and that when the Antichrist and the nations come to war and everything, that is going to basically culminate in the destruction of mankind through nukes or plagues or whatever it's going to be, and Jesus is going to stop it. He's going to come back, and then the first ones taken are the wicked.

They'll be removed. That's what he says in Matthew 13.30, and allow both to go together till this time of the harvest. I'll say to the reapers, first gather the tares. And then he says the harvest occurs at the end of the age. There's only two ages, this age and the age to come. I see.

Thank you. And with that, then the new heavens and new earth are made. And so that's my position. Right or wrong, that's my position.

Yes, that's how I see it. Well, thanks again. And I'll get off the phone and let somebody else call here.

There's nobody waiting. So, okay. They like to hear this kind of conversation, different views, because it's going to relate to everybody, what's going to happen. And they're in different views. What I like to do is not do a debate but a back-and-forth discussion on point-counterpoint for the premill versus amill versus postmill. That's how we look at this.

We're so very friendly. And people can just hear different perspectives and stuff like that. It isn't going to be informative because, in my opinion, these views, I just don't see how anybody can absolutely definitively say which is correct. We can say we believe this is correct for these following reasons and then just go with that.

That's what I would say. So, all right. Hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, all you've got to do is dial 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you. Give me a call.

And also, you can email me by just sending an email to info at karm.org, info at karm.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G. And just put in the subject line there. Just put in radio question or radio comment. I'm thinking of something here.

That's why I'm kind of stalling a little bit. So I have a link where I've got to be on tonight. And let me see if I've got some other information about it so I can tell you guys where it's going to be tonight.

It's not a big deal. I'm just going to be online. And let's see, go over here.

And, man, I've got so much going on. All right. So that, see the website.

Okay, I think I've got it here. Answeringadventism.com. Answeringadventism.com. So if you want to check it out, you can. And I'm looking at the site right now.

And so they have too many disparate contrasting colors. And so, nevertheless, I'm supposed to be on tonight. And I believe that's at, I've got to look here. I've got so much going on.

Yeah, it'll be 8 p.m. eastern time, which is 6 p.m. my time. So we'll talk on cults and SDA doctrine and see how they match up. And so there you go. That's what it is. So that's enteringadventism.com. That's where it's going to be on. And I assume that they will have some link or something, or I assume that they're going to do something like that, that you can watch it. Maybe it's just a private thing and then they do something with it later.

I don't know. But it does say YouTube at answeringadventism. Do you have a YouTube thing?

Yeah, there it is. I'm looking and learning. I've got so much I'm doing. Oh, man.

I've got so much I'm doing. All right. There we go. So, hey, I think what I'll do now is simply get on the e-mails, all right, because we don't have anybody waiting right now. So if you have a comment or a question, you can e-mail me, or you can call 877-207-2276. So let's get on here with radio questions and comments. Okay, I'm reading that. We'll get into that one. Let's try this.

I have a follow-up or further clarity question regarding 1 Corinthians 11. I've heard you dismiss the need to submit to the command program to cover their heads while praying and prophesying. I don't just dismiss it. That's not it.

I struggle with it. And it does talk, though, because of the angels, and this seems to be noncultural. So there could be a case made that women need to wear something over their heads as a symbol of authority. But then again, on the other hand, the issue deals with the authority structure that was in place in the culture at the time.

So since that's not there, then they don't need that symbol of authority. These are the two major issues I've had to deal with, and I've read commentaries on them, and they have differences of opinions on these things. Nevertheless, we have a break coming up at the bottom of the hour if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. All right, I think I'm going to get back on to the radio questions and stuff like that because we do get those. All right, so this guy was asking that about 1 Corinthians 11. He says, are you outright dismissing any and all application of the pulse command in today's context? No, I'm not. Or are you saying women can and should apply a parallel symbol of rank subjection? I'm saying I don't know. I don't know.

I don't have to deal with it. And I could go through the text and explain why, but there is this issue of head coverings. And as a matter of fact, when I revisited it about a month or so ago, I remember thinking, you know, we can make the case very easily that women should have head coverings in churches. And it says in 1 Corinthians 11-3, I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man and the man is the head of a woman and God is the head of Christ.

All right, headship. Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. So one of the issues here is a man allowed to wear a hat in a church. And, well, by this we would say, well, he can't. He goes into a church he has to not have a hat on.

And I would assume reading glasses would not fall under that category. Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. I wasn't mean to disgrace his head. See, it's a whole other thing. But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is worn in the same as the woman whose head is shaved. Now, what this is talking about, whose head is shaved, is the dealing with the prostitutes who would have their head shaved when they were busted or certain wives when they were caught doing some very bad immoral stuff so they would have their head shaved. That's what I understand anyway. So this is why it's so hard to sift out of the actual text how much is just cultural and how much is theologically required.

That's why I'm saying it's just difficult to deal. So there's more to it. We've got callers. Let's get on the air with Chuck from Dayton, Ohio. Chuck, welcome.

You're on the air. Hi. Welcome. Hey, I really got a different question that's more important to me than the one that I gave the fellow that answered the phone, but I just asked him a question about amillennialism because I thought that was a topic. That's all right.

Whatever you want to talk about is okay. Okay. It's about vows like in Numbers, I believe it's 30 verse 2, something like that. Okay. If you make a vow to the Lord and you don't keep it, that he's pretty disappointed in a person being a fool to do that.

Yes, that's correct. And I've done that more than once. Done what? As far as, you know, promising the Lord something and then not keeping it. And there's one vow in particular that I made a long time ago that I just, you know, I'm on and off on it.

And here lately I've been trying really hard to keep it and I just can't do it. Don't make vows. That's my solution.

Don't do it. You see, when my wife and I got married, we went through the traditional ceremony, the traditional stuff, and the traditional vows. And one of the things that the preacher told us beforehand was in the vows was the admonition for her to love, cherish, and obey. And I asked him to take that out. And I said, the reason I want you to take it out is because I don't want my wife to vow that she will obey me, you know, whatever. And if I say to do something or request or whatever, she doesn't do it, then she's in sin. And so I said, you know, get rid of that for that reason. I take it very seriously. If you are going to get a vow, you say your word, you need to do it.

You need to take care of it. And so the solution is don't make any. Just don't do that.

Let your yes be yes, your no be no. Because you can very easily break your vows and commit sin. So let's just say that you did and you committed sin that way. Then the thing to do is go before the Lord and just confess it. And you'll be forgiven.

And don't make any more vows. Just continue on and say, Lord, I will try to do such and such. Don't say I will. Because you don't know what you're capable of doing. You don't want to boast in your pride. I'm not calling you prideful and stuff. But you don't want to be prideful. And so this is why the whole thing is difficult. It's difficult to deal with.

And that's why I recommend that. Okay? That make sense? Yeah. This is us. Yeah.

Thank you. And you've got to understand something, though. You know, if you have made a vow before God and you've broken it, God's not going to condemn you to hell. He can discipline you for what you've failed to do properly. And what you do is you just go talk to him. And you be forgiven by Jesus. You be forgiven by the Lord.

You go talk to him. That's what you've got to do. And don't make any more vows like that. Just say, Lord, I'm going to try, you know, and just strengthen me in it. Because I just need your help.

I need your ability, not mine. That's what you do. Okay? Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I've been doing here. And, you know, I feel really bad when I don't, even now, I feel bad when I don't keep the promise that I made. And I was a pretty young Christian, and I didn't really understand all this stuff. But I know from studying that that's no excuse.

Well, here's the thing. I would, like I said, I would talk to God about it and confess. You made mistakes.

You blew it. You were immature. And just ask him to release you from it and that you're requesting a release. Because you want to be able to walk with him without inadvertently sinning.

And that you just want to do that. I remember once I asked God to teach me patience. I asked him to reveal to me my sinfulness is more accurate than what I did. Please reveal to me, Lord, how sinful I am in different ways. And I can take you to the location in San Diego where I was when I prayed again and asked him to stop because it was so powerful and because so much was going on. And it wasn't me breaking a promise. It was just, Lord, I can't, it's too much for me to bear.

I asked him to be merciful. That's what you got to do. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.

God bless you, brother. All right. Well, does that help you, though?

Does it? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Okay. Well, good.

I want it to. All right. I want to help you. And I don't want you to be wracked with guilt and at the point where you can't function. I don't want that.

I want you to be able to be free in Christ. And I always tell people, yeah, you blew it. Now what do we do? Now what we do is we talk to God about it. We get it taken care of with him. And we move forward.

And he remembers our sin no more and that he is that faithful to us. Okay? Yeah.

All right? Brother, look, I just hear it in your voice, and I just want you to know. Look, he loves you. And he saved you. And how you blew it, you know, we've all done it, but how you've blown it is not going to separate you from him. You're okay. He loves you.

He's not going to spank you and send you to hell and all this stuff because you blew it. All right? Right. Right. Okay. Yeah.

Does that help? Yeah. You sound distressed. Well, I'm going through a lot right now. My wife is, we got to go to a hospital in Indianapolis Monday, and she's got a nodule on her lung that they're going to do an endoscopy to check for cancer.

And her pulmonologist said that she got like a 95% chance that it would be cancer. So just a lot. Okay. Hold on.

I've been helping her for a long time. Hold on, Chuck. Chuck, we've got a break. What I want you to do is stay on, and then we're going to talk about this, and I want you to find out. I want you to call me back in a day or two.

Let me know what happens. But hold on, buddy. We've got a break. It's a hard break. We've got to go.

So hold on. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show.

Last segment of the hour. Let's get back on with Dayton. I mean, with Dayton.

With Chuck from Dayton, Ohio. Chuck, are you still there? Hi.

Hey, brother, are you still there, man? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

Hey, look, man, the break was at an unfortunate time, but that's okay. We'll work around it. What I'd like you to do is know that we've got people praying for you, and we have Joanne, and she runs the prayer team here at CARM. So when you go and you find out about your wife and everything, I'd like you to call back and tell us what's going on, because we're the body of Christ, and we want to bear one another's burdens, as Galatians 6, 2 says. And so if you would be so kind, you don't have to, of course, but if you want, you feel good enough about it. No, I appreciate it.

Yeah, you can do that. Okay? Let us know, and we'll pray, and people will pray for her and for you. I can hear it in your voice, and the Lord will be with you.

In fact, if it's okay, I'd love to pray for you and your wife right now, if it's okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. Well, sure. Her name's Patty. Her name's Patty, and you're Chuck. Yeah.

All right. Lord Jesus, I just want to lift up Chuck and Patty to you right now. They're both under a lot of stress, a lot of strain.

There's so many things that they don't know about, and they need to find out about medical stuff, and vows made and broken, and so much. I ask, Lord, that you would lift them up to yourself, and that they would rest in you completely and totally, to let all the things, all these concerns to fall upon you in your lap, and you would take them. I ask, Lord, that you would heal Patty, and that there would be no cancer at all, that everything would be fine, and that you would also deal with Chuck lovingly and patiently, and that you would minister to him, Lord Jesus, and that he'd be a good, strong husband for her, and no matter what happens, Lord, that he would look to you, and she would too. We lift this all up to you in your name, Jesus. Amen.

Amen. Okay, brother? Thank you. All right. Yeah, thank you very much. Sure, no problem. Just let us know how it goes.

You don't call back, and you find out when you're able to. All right? Okay, I will. Thank you very much.

You're welcome very much. All right. All right, well, God bless.

Okay. God bless. God bless. So, folks, lift up Chuck and his wife Patty, and just ask that the Lord would bless them and be with them and comfort them during this difficult time.

It is a difficult time, and please, as members of the body of Christ, we lift people up, and we pray for them and seek to lift them up before God. That's what we're doing, okay? So there you go. All right, hold on a sec.

I'm going to cough. There we go. Oh, boy, sorry about that. All right, let's get to Scott from Spokane, Washington. Scott, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, how are you doing, brother?

All right, Scott, man. How are you doing, man? I'm doing good.

I'm actually visiting some family in Everett right now, actually rekindling a relationship with my little brother. It's been going really well. So that's just great. I think you and I talked a little bit about that situation when we were together last.

But, yeah, so that's good. I just have a question or two. And so, you know, I've always heard that, and I actually believe a certain thing because of it, it has to do with Genesis 6, is sons of God, that term is only ever used for angels. But I think I may have found a place where it's used of men, and I wanted to ask you your opinion on it. Yeah, the term sons of God has different usages and different contexts.

I've done a study on it. And in fact, sons of God is used for your all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, Galatians 3.26. But anyway, go ahead.

What were you going to say? Well, I was just going to say, you know, I'm reading Deuteronomy, and in Deuteronomy 14.1, it looks like they're being called the sons of Yahweh. And so I thought it was, you know, maybe or maybe not significant. And, yeah. Yeah, he's just talking about the Israelites. It's just a familial way of speaking about their relationship with him. You know, you're sons of the Lord, you're God.

And it just means, you know, they're the children of Israel kind of thing. And he gives them a warning, you know, don't cut yourselves, don't shave your forehead for the sake of the dead, don't do the same for the sake of the dead, things like that. Okay, you got time for one more?

Sure, no problem. Okay, so the other one I have is also in Deuteronomy. Obviously, it's where I'm at right now. So Deuteronomy 13 verses 6 through 9.

And here it's, yeah, 13, 6 through 9. And God here is, you know, commanding Israel that if even if you have a very close friend or a relative who tries to lead you after other gods secretly, it's saying that you should be the first to, you know, take them out. And what I'm wondering here is does that mean on the spot or do you have to go to a council first, et cetera? Well, it says you shall surely kill him, your hand shall be first against him to put him to death and afterwards the hand of all the people. So all the people means that he's tried, that he's brought before the group of people with charges and that you, if you're going to bring a charge against him, you got to throw the first stone.

So this is an admonition both to caution as well as severity. And the reason God did not want the Jews to be involved with idolatries is because they would then start taking in the practices of the pagan nations around them. And God had called Israel to be separate and distinct from those nations so that through their holiness as they represented the true and living God, they would be the people through whom the Messiah would come. And the Messiah is the only way, Jesus of course, the only way that we can have our sins forgiven.

So comparatively speaking, if you look at eternal damnation and a temporal destruction, a temporal issue is nothing in comparison to eternity. So the severity that God is instituting there is for the ultimate reason of providing a guarantee of the arrival of the Messiah and symbolizing and practicing holiness that God himself is. So if you're going to bring it in that context of the Jews under the theocratic system, if anybody is going to bring a charge against somebody that they are worshipping a false god, others have to be involved because of other people and you've got to be the first one to throw the stone to kill them.

Is this really what you want to do? You better be careful of it. And if it is justified and then the rest of the people agree, then you throw the first stone. That's what's going on. It's a tough one. Okay.

And then the last one I have is pretty simple. What's the difference between docetism and gnosticism? Gnosticism for the Greek gnosko, to know, and docetism comes from the Greek dakeo, to seem.

So to know and to seem or to appear. Gnosticism is the philosophical position of teaching that there's secret knowledge, secret words, secret code, secret this and that, that certain people have knowledge of gnosis, gnosticism. So there was called the gnostics. And then docetism is a heresy that taught that Jesus only appeared to be human but was not really human.

He was divine but not human and so it's called docetism, that he only appeared to be that it seemed as though he was the case. Okay? Okay, cool. Thank you. Okay. Anything else?

Yeah, one more. 1 Timothy 6, 10. This is the verse about money being the root of all evil. I'm just wondering, in the Greek does it say root of all evil or does it say all sorts of evil?

The Greek word there is the root of all evil and it's ponton, so it comes from the Greek word pass which just means all. So the word sorts is not there, all sorts of evil. And esv is all kinds of evil and King James says all evil. New King James, all kinds of evil. RSV, all evils. LEB, all evils. All kinds with NIV.

CSB is all kinds. So both are correct. See, money isn't the root of every evil that exists. So when Satan fell in the pre-existence, I mean before pre-existence, wow, man. When Satan fell before we existed, before we were born on earth, whenever God created the earth, but there's different views about when Satan fell, but let's just assume it was before the creation of man.

Money was not an issue and yet the evil of Satan was there, so we can't say money is the root of all evil because then you have an improper understanding of things. That's why it says all sorts or all kinds or types. And it's in reference to people. And so by putting the word sorts or kinds in there, it certainly clarifies that meaning and is fine to do.

I would put it in italics, though, so they know that it's not an original word, but it's implied in the context. Okay. Well, good.

I think that's all I got. Okay. Excuse me.

Oh, man, there's a good yawn. All right. Okay. Sounds good. Muy goodo.

Yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you, Matt. All right, man.

Well, God bless. I'll talk to you soon. All right. We'll talk to you later. Bye-bye. Okay.

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