Matt Slick Live

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And still they did. It just sent it to me. I like it. I like it. So I'm going to go through that.

A lot of good stuff. Praise God. And like I said, if you want to email me, all you have to do is dial 8772072276. Look at these emails. Let's see.

Matt, personally, I don't see anything wrong with, oh, there's something else. OK, let's see. OK, listen to this show. Yeah, OK, I can't, it's too long.

I want to get into, so I'll have to get into that later. We do have a caller coming in, I think. And like I said, half hour show today because on Mondays I have to do my doctorate work for as long as I hang in with it. And there's that. Look at all this stuff we've got going on. So one of the things we're working on is short videos, one minute videos, and then videos where I can do on articles.

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Oh, man. Hey, how about this? Let's get to Kurt from Charlotte, North Carolina. Kurt, welcome.

You are on the air. Hey, Matt. Hey, how are you doing? I had a quick question.

Doing good. Good question in regards to the Hamas and the Israel war going on. Now, I'm seeing a lot of I guess now a lot of protests going on for Gaza. And I guess my thing is, you know, my understanding Hamas started this with sending over thousands of rockets. And unfortunately, well, fortunately for Israel, they had an iron curtain that set up.

So unfortunately, their rockets didn't really hit much. Now, is everyone mad because Israel retaliated? Yes. Okay, I'm sorry. No, go ahead.

No, I was just stating it. I mean, it seems pretty crazy to me. And it's almost seeming like now the world is getting set for the crazy stage.

It already is. I mean, it's all together because if someone attacks us, I mean, this, you know, I spoke with some individuals. I think that, you know, when when we were attacking Pearl Harbor, of course, there, you know, we received losses and such. And we retaliated with the nuclear bombs, of course.

And that killed hundreds of thousands of folks. Now, with this situation going on, why is Israel seem like the enemy? And all they're doing is responding to thousands of rockets being sent into their territory. You know, it's crazy.

You know, they see if you're, you know, people were to look. Well, let me address something else. The leftist wackos who think that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. Israel has a right to defend itself. The British are the ones who occupied the land beforehand. On May 14th, 1948, they ceded it over to the Israelis and they became a nation.

So the area was given by God to Abraham well before Mahab and the Muslims came along. Hamas is an Islamic militant terrorist group. And they have repeatedly sent rockets into Israel and they've just been a thorn in the side of Israel constantly. So they came in in October, of course, and they killed thousands of people, took hundreds of hostages, killed children, pregnant women. It's a terrorist group. And so if I were the president of Israel, I'd be doing the exact same thing.

I'd say, go clean them out. Fix it so they'll never do this again. That's what it is. So why are the leftists, you know, complaining about Israel? Well, because they're leftists. Leftism is a mental disorder and it needs to be in that psychological thing.

It is. It is a mental disorder. It's socialistic, communist, atheistic brainwashing.

And they couldn't think that we had a white paper bag. It's one of the reasons I enjoy watching clips of Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens and other guys, I forget their names. They just clean house on these leftists.

They use logic, they use information, they use facts. But you see what's happened is the indoctrination in our culture through the schools. The conservatives are asleep at the wheel because they're allowing the leftists to take control of the indoctrination, turning them into indoctrination camps, the schools and universities, which are just putting out leftist crap, thought. And it's going to divide our country. It's going to help destroy our country. So anyway, Israel has the right and the obligation to go in and make sure it doesn't happen again so it can protect its own citizenry.

That's what needs to happen. The Muslims, Islam is a militant. It's a very bad religion. It's a religion of death. It teaches killing and it teaches destruction.

Yeah, it's a bad religion. I just want to touch bases with you, man. I'm hearing it all over the media now. So let me call in a nice flick and just talk briefly as far as letting individuals know who don't know the exact story as far as what's going on, that Israel was attacked first and they retaliated. And now everyone's in the uproar because they're retaliating. But no, it sounds like the stage is being set for revelation, honestly. They said all eyes are going to be set on Israel. It looks like that's what's going on.

Yeah, I don't know if this is going to be it, but you never know. A single match could set a forest on fire. But the thing is they have the right to defend themselves. And it just blows me away, the stupidity of the left. And I do, I believe basically the Democrats, the Democratic Party, and most of the Republican Party are imbeciles who don't hold to the Constitution and don't uphold it at all and that they want a different kind of a system. And I believe this. This is my opinion. There are some good people in the group, but at any rate, with the leftist indoctrination that's occurring in our media, the left has gone through and successfully taken over the indoctrination procedures of the schools and the media and the news.

And so it's extremely hard to get this back. In fact, if you were to go to CARM and look up the 45 goals of the Communist Party that was released in 1963, I believe it was, about the Communist Party, you'll see that almost all of them are in place here in America now. How to destroy America is exactly what's happening. At any rate, all this is the bedrock and the fertilizer for the leftist view of Israel shouldn't exist and Israel doesn't have the right to defend itself. Israel is the oppressor.

No, it's not the case. The Muslims have repeatedly attacked the Israelis, repeatedly done it. In fact, when I was in Israel five or seven years ago, we were up in the northern part of Israel and we heard that word back later that day that a rocket had gone over our heads from Lebanon into Israel.

So it's ridiculous. So Israel is on guard all the time, surrounded by its enemies. So they have the right to go back to destroy Hamas. I think they should because Hamas is a murderous Islamic militant movement.

The fact that the left does not demonstrate that just shows how bad off our country is. You're right about that, Matt. I've got to head back into work. Thank you so much for the convo, Matt. All right, man. God bless, buddy. All right.

God bless, buddy. All right. Now we've got to get Drew activated so that I can figure out how to activate. Wait, I can go over here. It's been a while. There we go. Okay, now it should be working in clubhouse or club deck.

It just took a while for me to figure it out. So Drew, let's see, is Drew on? Hey, Drew, welcome. You're on the air.

Yes, Matt. How are you doing, brother? Doing all right, man. Hanging in there, buddy. What do you got?

Hey, I actually have a workout really, really perfect. The last guy that called in, so one of my questions about also the conflict over in Israel with Hamas, but specifically I've been reading through Ezekiel. It's such an amazing book, but specifically the prophecy in Ezekiel 38. And I just have a question about how that relates and who Gog is referring to and then the different lands and countries. And then specifically there's a prophecy around verse 10, I believe it is, that talks about unwalled villages and how they're going to come in. I mean it literally describes exactly what Hamas did. I'm just curious what your thoughts are on all that.

Yes, people are really concerned about what's happening in the Middle East. And I'm not sure. I'm no politician. I don't know all this stuff. But I'm not really concerned.

I am, but I'm not. I think Israel is going to simply go in there, clean out Hamas, and that's it. It's done. And anybody else who wants to attack them, Israel is going to come back hard. One of the reasons I think Israel is doing this is to send a message to everybody else.

You do this, that's what's going to happen. So I think that's what's going on. Is it a fulfillment of the prophecies about Magog coming down and taking a spoil out of Israel?

I don't believe so. And one of the reasons I think it's not yet is because it's supposed to take a spoil out of Israel. And there's different theories about it, Russia and or China coming in, marching along the Euphrates River to come into Israel. That's not yet happened. And there's something else about the Dead Sea I'll talk about when we get back from the break.

I think that has to be in place first. I'll talk about that. And we'll be right back after these messages. Hey, we have three open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show. Just to give you a reminder, on Mondays I have to do my doctorate work, and so I'm only going to do a half-hour show today, which means at the bottom of the hour in ten minutes I've got to go. All right, let's get back on with Drew as soon as the guy puts it back on so I can activate him and get him on there because it takes a bit.

We have this new system. All right, Drew, welcome. You're on the air, buddy. All right, you still there? Yes, sir. How you doing, Matt? Yes, sir. Still here.

All right, so we had a break there. But one other factor that is something to consider is the Dead Sea is so rich in minerals that I've heard that there's trillions of dollars of value in the water suspended. Once they find a way to extract the water out with procedure, whatever it is, the technology increases, Israel will become the richest nation in the world. That's one of the theories.

They don't have the technology right now. I've heard this. I don't know how accurate it is, though. Well, let's just say that it's true. Let's say Israel develops a methodology to do that. Then could it be that at that point the nations are coveting what they have, trying to come in and take what they have, and that's when Israel destroys them all. So that's what it says in Ezekiel 38. They come down to capture and seize plunder to turn your hand and get to waste. So we don't know who or what it is. The Son of Man said to Gog, Thus says the Lord God, on the day that my people from Israel are living securely, will you not know it?

And you'll turn up your place. Now, Matt, is it accurate to say that Gog is referring to the Antichrist, that that's the Antichrist leader that's going to rise up and lead his horde down into the land to take it and then present himself in the Holy of Holies? I don't know. I don't know.

I've heard Gog is an ancient short-form word for Magog, Moscow, and that there's a relationship of that, but I have no idea. There's so many theories running around, but it does talk about people coming from the north and then a 200-million-man army out of the dried-up Euphrates River. It sounds a lot like what happens in Revelation, right?

Yes. When the Lord with the breath of his mouth takes them all out. Yeah, and so you see there's a lot of stuff there, and I've just not studied it that much. But it says release the four angels who were bound to the great river Euphrates, and that's in Revelation 9, and let's see what else it says. And the sixth angel poured out his bowl in the great river of the Euphrates, and its water was dried up so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east. That's Revelation 16, 12. And then it talks about, for real, it really gets me, and then it says, and I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, et cetera, those gathered together for Armageddon. So this is what I think is going to happen, but the temple needs to be rebuilt, and it's not rebuilt yet.

So this is why I don't think that the Hamas thing going on now is it, but we're inching closer, okay? But this is my opinion, so I'm no expert in this. Yeah, no, I mean, it was helpful. It's helpful to know, and I just wanted to call in and get your thoughts, so I really appreciate it, Matt. No problem, man. God bless, buddy. God bless you, brother.

Yes, sir. Bye-bye. Bye.

All right. Let's get to Rachel from Utah. Rachel, welcome. You're on the air. Thanks, Matt. Thanks for taking my call. Just a question.

I agree that you have read it so many times, but I don't understand the story of Sarah and Abraham. It's a bad connection. Oh, let me try this better.

Let me try it. Oh, shoot. Okay. All right. Is that better?

Yes, it is much better. Okay, go ahead. Okay, sorry about that. So anyway, there's Abraham and Sarah, and they're going to Egypt, and the Egyptians see Sarah, and she's beautiful, and they say, okay, I'm going to just pretend you're my sister, and that's why they don't kill me, and then he gives Sarah to the Egyptians for, I don't know, if Abraham gives him all those goods or the Egyptians give him goods for Sarah or something like that. It just never made sense to me, that story. I mean, there's an allegory. I just don't understand why that needed to happen.

What about needed to happen? He could just call God protection or, you know, why did that happen? I just don't understand why that scenario happened.

It doesn't make any sense to my brain. Well, it's just a record of sin. There's lots of things in the Old Testament that are recording events of people doing bad things, David and Bathsheba. Why did that have to happen? Because he sinned. Why did Abraham do this? He sinned. He wasn't perfect, and he made a mistake. And then the plague came down on Pharaoh's house because of this, that you're with another man's wife. And then when he found out, it's okay, I'm sorry, and everything was better.

Let's just say I'm skipping stuff, and it went better after that. So that's all, is Abraham blew it. He blew it. Oh, I see. Why was there not a choice to have him be his wife? What was the law? I guess I'm asking the Egyptians that if the man's married, that you could take their wife and kill the husband. Like, why was that allowed and not kill the brother and take the sister? Like, I don't understand.

I don't know if that's the case. You know, just because they were pagan, it doesn't mean that they had incredibly bad rules everywhere all the time. So there were different cultures with different rules. Some cultures, I know, that wives are given to visitors because that's what you do in that culture for the night. And other cultures, you don't even go near another man's wife without permission.

There's all kinds of varieties all over. And so in Egypt, marriage was important, and you didn't go around doing stuff. And so when, in Pharaoh's house, this was going on inadvertently and the problems came in, it was like, take care of it. And that's all it was. I see.

So just to clarify, and I really appreciate your time. Sure. So it was possibly the culture that if – I guess this is a little piece I'm getting – if a man is married to his wife, perhaps the culture was that you could take the wife and kill the husband then? No. You're afraid of that.

That's murder. But he was afraid they were going to kill him. Yes, because she was so good-looking, apparently, and he didn't know their culture, didn't know what was going on. So he blew it.

He flat-out blew it. He just pretended he didn't know their culture. I wonder why he was afraid they were going to kill him then. Because she was so good-looking, apparently, and they liked her.

Someone that would kill for her. Yeah, apparently. And she was like 70s because she was 75.

So this girl is like – I mean, she must have been in her 70s, right, or something, and still so beautiful, so fair, huh? Strange. Well, I don't know the details, but he was afraid, and he made a mistake. He really blew it. I see.

And his fear, he did something kind of irrational, as people often do when they're fearful. That's right. I see.

That's right. Okay. Thank you so much. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome. All right. Okay. Bye. All right. Let's get to Shabu.

Welcome. Shabu, you're on the air. Are you there? Why we should pray for Israel? They're not Christians. They're not following Christ. Why they should pray for them? Because God's not done with them yet. If you go to – we're out of time here, and I've got to go for the day.

I'll be back on tomorrow. But read Romans 11, 25, 26. Romans 11, 25, 26. God's not done with Israel. We need to pray for them.

Okay. We're out of time. Hey, folks.

Got to do some doctorate work on Mondays. And that's why it's a short show today. We'll be back on the air tomorrow. God bless.

Talk to you then. It's Matt Slick live. Taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right. And welcome back to the show.

It looks like the powers that be at YouTube stopped the podcast here from going out on a regular Matt Slick live YouTube because of medical misinformation. We've probably talked about COVID, how I doubt its efficacy in the vaccines, and there's problems and things like that. I'm not allowed to have opinions, folks.

I'm not allowed to have opinions. Make 1984 fiction again, please. Let's get to Gabriel from Maryland. Okay, Gabriel. You still there? Yep.

Still here. Okay. So what was your question?

What was it? So the difference between predestination and determinism. Determinism means you don't have any will or any issues. It's just basically your puppet. And predestination means that God's will is accomplished, but you're not a puppet. Okay.

Yeah. So when somebody says it has to happen such and such a way for me to come to faith in Christ, even though it might make them feel good to think that way, that's not necessarily true. Well, maybe not. Because God has his way of ordaining things. All things work after the counsel of his will. Whether it's going up the front of a church to receive Christ, the Holy Spirit comes upon you, or you read a Bible verse out of the Bible, and you throw the Bible away, and the verse works on you and gets you saved in two or three days. God ordains the means as well as the ends. So people are saved in different ways, but God, he's the one who opens our heart to understand the scripture in Luke 24, 45. He grants what he believes, like it's 129, and grants his repentance, 2 Timothy 2, 25. So these things are right there, and at the same time, God draws us, John 6, 44, and we can't come to Christ unless it's granted by the Father, John 6, 65. So, it all works out together, but that helps. But there's no necessary chain of causation that drives you to the Lord.

He can step in at any time. Of course there is. Of course there is. There's always a cause of, there's always a causation, a chain of causes. No event occurs without a connection to a prior event.

Everything. This is logic, that all things that occur were caused to occur. So if God opens your heart, it's because God caused your heart to open. If someone preaches the gospel, it's because a previous chain of events brought that to bear.

Okay? I would argue then that, I mean, I don't know if this applies or not, but with quantum physics, you have the possibility of something being in two states at the same time, and it's not observed that it takes a final state, that it's not made manifest. So the causation could be multiple. The causation is there. No, no, no. Right. Everything. But it's not one definite cause.

Well, no, no, no. They didn't say they're one definite cause. It's like when you watch airplane crashes, I watch a series of those. I just think they're interesting.

They're like detective work. And rarely is it one cause. But in quantum physics, you can't say that things happen for no reason. That's just simply illogical. If things happen for a reason, they just don't know all the reasons yet. So you can have states of occurrence that seem to come out of nowhere, but it can't be that nothing is what preceded.

It just means they don't know what is a precession yet. That's all. This is logically necessary. Okay? Otherwise, if there are no reasons for events, then we can't trust reality to be consistent. Because it would mean then that a pink elephant with wings could pop into existence because there's no causation and necessity of the cause and the effect. And so that would mean then we can't trust the material world or the spiritual world or the world of logic and universals.

Okay? Right. So at the same time, God is sovereign over all causes. And we are not slaves to the causes because our spirits made in the image of God possess the freedom that we have. But our freedom is not independent of our context or God's guiding hand.

And yet we're still free at the same time. This is good biblical theology. Most people don't accept it though. Or a lot of people don't accept it.

But that is good biblical theology. Okay? Okay. Well, thank you very much.

You're welcome very much. Okay. All right. Well, God bless.

All right. That was Gabriel from Maryland. Now let's get to Nelson from Bakersfield. Nelson, welcome.

You're on the air. God bless, Matt. Happy New Year. You too, man. God bless. So what's up?

Yeah. First and foremost, I wanted to just praise. First and foremost, I wanted to praise God for your show, for what God is doing in your life.

Because by tuning in and you got me digging into the word of God even more so over the years. Good. And come to find out, not knowing, by digging into the word of God, like, wow, I'm Reformed.

And I was like, no, no, no, wait a minute. And there's no way around it. I'm Reformed right now. Yep. And then once you give yourself over to the dark side, well, once you give yourself over to the dark side, it's a lot easier.

Life just makes it easier. So there you go. Amen. So my question is, what's your question with this verse? Verse 22 of first Corinthians 16, if you want to bring that up. If anyone does not love the Lord, he is, he is to be accursed.

Uh huh. That, um, is, I mean, I was just, as I was looking it up, can you, um, just give me an explanation of what Paul was saying there? I mean, if you don't love the Lord, then you're going to be cursed. That's what it means. Um, and so, um, so now the followup question with that is I'm the only one in my family that is saved.

Um, and then that verse right there, technically they're cursed because they have not came for the Lord. That's right. Exactly.

Correct. And, um, and so, I mean, my prayer is basically that the father may draw them to Christ as well, uh, John six, 36 and 37. And so, yeah, so yeah, so, uh, um, yeah, that was just my question about that. Um, uh, so again, thank you for, for your show and I continue praying for you, my brother.

Well, you're welcome, man. And, um, you know, sometimes reading, uh, the verses, if anyone does not love the Lord, he used to be, he, you know, he is to be anathema, curse separated. And yet that is the case. Um, I have family members and they are under the curse of God right now and all who die without Christ are under that judgment. And, and what God often does is put one believer in a family to be that light, to be that witness. And so, uh, that's your job.

One of your jobs, of course, is to be a loving witness to your family and be praying for them, interceding for them is, and, uh, speaking to the Lord on their behalf when asking God to save them and open up their hearts and their minds and be merciful to them just as he was with you so that they might escape the present curse that they're under and find salvation. That's your job. That's what you got to do. Amen.

Okay. Thank you, brother. Amen. You're welcome, brother.

That's what it is. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but that's what it is when we pray like that sometimes for many years. Okay. All right. All right, brother. Real quick. Go ahead.

Sure. Um, I was asked this question because many believers, um, has, I mean, I even used to pray like this, but like when someone dies and they have, they never received Christ, uh, they, you know, they, and I've done it before in the past, but then more in the scriptures, uh, should we pray that God may have mercy upon that person even though they're in hell? No, it's pointed out that once then judgment, he was nine 27 so that's it.

Once they're dead, you don't waste your time on praying for it. Yeah. Yeah.

The only thing we get now is now from God. Right. That's right. Okay. That's right. All right. And it's a hard thing. Well, thank you very much. Catholics would disagree.

Catholics would disagree, but that's because they don't trust scripture in that area. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. All right, man. Well, thank you very much. You're welcome very much. All right.

Now we're going to get to Jose in a minute, but we've got to break just any second here. And for those who aren't sure if they're really trusting in the Lord, God grants that you have faith. Philippians 1 29 read Matthew seven, seven through 11. God doesn't. He never fakes you out. If you ask for a fish, he won't give you a snake. He gives you what you ask.

And if you ask of him, he will give it to you and your trust in him. Let's get to Oh, Jose. And there's the music of it's just a little bit off of my time. All right, Jose. Hold on. We'll be right back. We'll be right back for open lines, eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. It's Matt Slick, everybody. Welcome back to the show.

We have three open lines, eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. Let's get on the air with a Jose from Los Angeles. Welcome buddy. You're on. Hello.

Hello Jose. Are you there? We'll give another few seconds here. And if not, we'll go to Tommy from Utah. So I don't hear anything.

All right. Let's go to Tommy from Utah. Tommy, welcome. You're on the air. Hello, Matt. How are you doing? Doing all right. Can you hear me?

What do you got buddy? Yeah, I hear you fine. Well, it's not really a question, I just want to discuss Jeremiah 1-5 because a few weeks ago I was witnessing to a Mormon and first off he says, well, you know we're Christians too.

I didn't flat out disagree with him, but I tried to show him that he was wrong and showed him that Christ is and always was God from the inception that he is the Alpha and Omega is the only one ever and he's the only one that has ever been, that has a pre-existence before walking the third and he refuted it with that and I guess I'm really annoyed that I just didn't flat out tell him, no, you're wrong. But that's really the whole context of why I want to talk to you about this. So you want to know? I mean, I know what you mean. It's the issue of Jeremiah 1-5, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so before you were in the womb I knew you and Mormons ripped it out of context and say that it means it had pre-existence. To be known by God means to be saved, that it's in a saving relationship. Jesus says in Matthew 7, 22, 23, he talks about many who say they do good works, but Jesus says get away from me, I never knew you. And Galatians 4, 8, 9, you did not know God, you served by nature those which are not God's, but now that you've come to know God, or rather are known by him. And John 10, 27, 28, my sheep hear my voice, I know them and I give eternal life to them. So the phraseology is a theologically precise, or it's a theologically significant, I should say, phrase, to be known by God means it's a saving thing, and this is a doctrine for predestination and election in Jeremiah 1-5, not pre-existence.

Furthermore, if you go to 1 Corinthians 15, 46, it says the spiritual is not first, but the natural, then the spiritual. So, okay. Yeah, yeah, I can say I understood all that, but I truly, it's been bugging me for like three weeks why I didn't refute it the way I should have, and I just felt like I dropped the ball doing this, that's my, I witness to everyone, every day, everywhere I go. So I just have felt like I literally just dropped the ball for, yeah.

Well, okay, then in that case, welcome to the club, okay. But I also know that I did say things, here's the thing, when I witness to people, I always walk away going, wow, I should have said this, I should have said that, but I know better, because I know God's had me say exactly what he wanted me to say to them at the time that they could take what I could give them. And so, the only thing I really can fall back on at this point is that, yes, is, did I lose you?

The only thing you fall back on, what's that, no, we lost you, the only thing you fall back on is, and then it went blank, I didn't hear you, oh, oh, sorry, I drive for a living and so my signal isn't great. So I hit him with the, the only thing that really made him question anything I said, which I know is what I was supposed to tell him, is that in Galatians 5, 4, essentially it says, if you add any work to the grace of God, you're not saved. Right.

And that did stump him. Well, good, because all false religions teach that you and your goodness are somehow able to merit forgiveness and stuff with God. All false religions teach that. That's because they have a false view of God, because they think that the God that they believe in is such that he lowers his standard and it's up to our goodness to make the difference up. And that's just a false God. The true God is infinite and there is no possible way that we could ever add anything.

And so he does everything. That's why Jesus is God in flesh, second person of the trinity. And that's, you know, that's just it, that's biblical theology and people who reject that will go to hell and those who affirm it do so because they're regenerate, they're saved. Yeah. Well, anyway, I just, I just wanted to, I'm glad that you gave me those other scriptures when I get home.

I'll have to go back to the website and write those down and look and do some more study on those. But still, like I say, I knew that whatever he was referencing was totally erroneous and not, and ripped so far out of context that, and here's to me, this is the, this is what I see in that verse is that he is making his God so much smaller than God truly is because that comes back to the whole point of our predestination. That's what cults do, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, everybody redefines God and usually it's after some form of their own image and that's what happens. So in Mormonism, God's an exalted man from another planet. In Jehovah's Witnesses, God is a single person and Jesus is a created thing and that you cooperate with God in order to maintain your, your forgiveness of sins. And then in Islam, the same thing, the same thing as Jehovah's Witnesses.

I actually told some, some Muslims that, I said, your God is the same one as the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Christadelphians and they, they didn't know what to say about that. So yeah, you think your God's so unique, he's not, he's just like the J-dubs and the, anyway, so yeah, whenever you have a false God, you're going to have a false Christ and, and false gospel and people are going to be damned because they've rejected the true and living God and replaced him with something false made in the image of corruptible man. Hence Mormonism, perfect example.

God's an exalted man from another planet. They exchange the glory of God for the image of corruptible man. That's exactly what Mormonism does. I hope all the Mormons in Salt Lake City are listening to this and you realize that judgment of God is upon you right now. If you believe that God is an exalted man and you become a God, you are under the condemnation of God because you have violated scripture and you have adopted idolatry because what the Bible says is that you are not to serve any false gods. And what it says in Romans 1, 22 and 23, professing to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for the image in the form of corruptible man. That's exactly what Mormonism does.

Anyway, they need repentance as a false God of Mormonism. All right, Tommy, we got a lot of people waiting, so all right, buddy, thanks a lot. Appreciate how you do. God bless you, sir. God bless you too.

All right. Let's get to Gary from Utah. Gary, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt.

It's me again. How are you? Good. All right. Hanging in there.

So what do you got? All right. You know, I've called you a few times before and yeah, I'm in Utah, but I don't connect with those other people that are Mormon. I'm born in Christian, of course. All right.

So the last few minutes we got here, so I'm watching the time as well. I was going to ask you, um, well, I run into some of these people on YouTube or, you know, you got to be careful who you listen to. They're supposed to be preaching the word of God. And I'd listened to some of these and some of these people are saying that they don't believe that, you know, once you get saved and you, you know, their nature, old nature changes, you become a new creature. They don't believe that we still fight our old, filthy nature every day. And that's why we need Christ to continue to fight that. How do you deal with those people when they think, Oh no, I don't have an old, filthy nature anymore. I don't sin anymore.

That kind of stuff. That's what I'm saying. So I, when people say they don't sin anymore, I say, okay, let me ask you some questions if that's okay. Okay. Okay.

No problem. Is Jesus the standard of perfection in keeping the law? Yes. Are you keeping the law on the same level as Jesus?

Those are my questions. I've had a few of them say, if you say yes, I say, okay, so you said yes. So you, you are keeping the law on the same level as God in flesh who not only did what was right, but thought what was right. And in the intention of his heart perfectly, he did what was right. And you're saying you do the same thing as Jesus. If they say that they're arrogant and they're foolish, they're prideful. If they say no, well then you're not sinless.

Are you? So either way they lose either way they lose. Okay.

Right. Cause that's definitely a false, false gospel because those are some of the same people like, well, not necessarily those people, but I've also dealt with other people who when we deal with the atheist or others who say, I'll call them a Bible prophecy, right? That God said, this is going to happen. And all of a sudden it happens and it was predicted 2,500 years ago. And then these arrogant people would say, well, I could have told you that. And I say, well, actually, no, you couldn't have because without knowledge, which God gives you that knowledge and God says his ways and his thoughts are higher than ours.

So without God giving you that now, there's no way you're going to know that cause you're not on the same level with God. It's hilarious. These people crack me up. Yeah.

It's a form of arrogance. Yeah. I've actually met and uh, yeah, I don't sit anymore.

I haven't sinned for years. Yeah, exactly. How stupid can you be? You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's pretty bad.

It's pretty bad. I know you guys, I've met people like that and their arrogance, oh man, it's just incredible. So you keep the law and you love God and love your neighbor on the same level as God in flesh with holy perfection, right? In every instance and every thought and every intention of your heart, right? What are they going to say? They say, yes.

You say, look, I need us to know where you are cause I don't want to get zapped by the lightning bolt that comes out of heaven when you boast equality with Jesus. Oh my goodness. Yeah.

And one last thing, cause I know your time is getting short. I would love to see another debate come out with you, but I'd love to see you debate one of these people that are hardcore Catholic that think that the Catholic, that the Bible came from, you know, from Catholicism or that Christ cause all this doesn't came from Christ and I was like, no, we have a Jewish Bible. He's a Jewish carpenter.

He's the King of Kings. You know, I'd love to see that debate. Yeah. Yeah.

I need to do some more stuff with Catholicism. I'm going to be very busy this year. I'm supposed to go to Israel in about five or six weeks and then about four or five weeks after that, I'm going to Japan and then there's a possibility of going to England and or Scotland. That's actually the works.

It's very, very early stages. I got to go to Southern California and I'll be there for a week. So and I do that in late July and I get to meet people already.

People want me to, to, uh, to do stuff with them, you know, can our church come to this, do this with new videos. You're all planned out ahead of time. So you're almost all year or at least a good portion. Yeah.

Good portion of it. And then my wife has the rest of it, the honeydew list. So you know, I've got to put in a schedule. Well I pray for your safety on those things and uh, yeah, just keep up the good fight.

You know, they always say fight the good fight. So um, I don't know what you have going on, but you probably have a lot of things going on. Too many things to mention. Not enough time.

Yeah. It's like my saying, so much heresy, so little time and I have too much to do. And now that I'm 66, the fact is I'm, I'm slowing down and I hate to admit it, but it's just a fact.

I don't have that ability to concentrate like I used to and, and the energy level isn't as much. So I have to push through a lot of stuff to continue to work even at 66 I hope to keep going. Thank you, man. We'll see. All right, buddy. There's the music. Got to go. This is your program powered by the truth network.