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I want to get preference to the ones who call in live. All right, so having said all that, I hope you all had a great weekend. I did, a good weekend. I'm working on a couple new projects, just to slip them in between some of the other projects I'm working on, doing a study on the phrase Son of God and the phrase Son of Man. It's already become quite interesting. I'd like to see what God does with phrases.

More on that later. All right, so here's something that I think is worth talking about. The Chosen series, as many of you know what it is about Jesus and the apostles and everything. And, you know, the main actor who plays Jesus is a Roman Catholic. And, okay, all right, you know, it's bad enough, but what are you going to do? You know, I get it.

But I'm glad that Jesus is being promoted, and it's a pretty good show I've seen every episode that's been released. Well, now, over the past few days, there's a report of a pride flag on the set, that someone there is having a pride flag. I heard on the backpack and a pride flag, and they didn't say anything about it, and that it's okay.

No, it's not. And so I have an article written on The Chosen. I'm going to update it, and to discuss this issue, I'm going to do a little bit more research and find out some exact things that Dallas Jenkins said about it. But if, I don't know about others, but it's already, you know, there's so many issues here, it's hard to know, it's hard to know where to draw the line, like they're using Mormon set.

I could see using a Mormon set because nothing of Mormonism is in it. Now, well, doesn't that apply to the same thing? If a guy, a cameraman has a pride flag, and it's not in the series, isn't that okay, too? And this is where it starts getting more difficult because there are some gray areas. Where do you draw the line?

The line needs to be drawn someplace. Now, the Mormon church, of course, is not a Christian church. They say they're Christian, but they believe, you know, God came from another planet and has a goddess wife, and it can become gods, and they deny the true God, the true Christ, and the true gospel. They say they're Christian, but they're not.

All right, so there's that. And then we have the rainbow issue, the alphabet mob that goes around telling people what they should do and trying to brainwash and groom the kids and all this kind of stuff. And, you know, there's a difference between the idea of using a Mormon set and the rainbow stuff because the Mormon set, it's not a promotion of Mormonism where the pride stuff, the flag is a promotion of homosexuality, the LGBTQ, all the alphabet mob stuff. And particularly since what we're seeing in society is the aggression of the alphabet mob trying to brainwash our children, groom our children, it is absolutely horrifying that filth like this is being promoted to our children on libraries.

You know, the pride, you get a whole month, and the Memorial Day for the soldiers, you get one day. And why is it that the government is promoting homosexuality, and it's a sexual behavior. Why are they promoting a sexual behavior? Why are they doing this? It doesn't make any stinking sense to me. Homosexuality, you know, LGBTQ, it's all sexual preferences.

It's your sexuality. It's all what it is. And the government's getting in on promoting it, approving of it. What business has government got to do this? It doesn't have any business doing that. And then what it does is it penalizes Christians when they say something.

The hypocrisy is huge. And I'm going to tell you, folks, if we don't stand up and fight back, and not just by praying. I mean, praying's absolute. Okay, we got to do that. But we can't just sit there and go, well, I prayed. I did my business. I'm going to go and, you know, watch TV. There's got to be more done eventually when God calls you to act on what you've been praying about. Will you act?

That's a question I'm going to ask. Because a lot of people will say, God used me. And then when the opportunity to get used comes up, they deny it.

They don't want it. They want to be used in a comfortable way, an easy way that makes them feel better. That's not often what God does. He often sets us places we don't want to be and say things we don't want to have to say. And do things we don't want to have to do.

And yet Christians saw, you know, because God is, you know, he's a blonde haired, blue eyed, Caucasian surfer dude, dressed in Oma's nightgown. And what he wants to do is make your life comfortable. God's got a wonderful plan for your life. It's wonderful.

That crap that's taught from so many churches. A wonderful plan for your life. Really?

How do you find wonderful? What does it mean? A lot of money? Good car? Is that what it means?

Good, perfect health? That's a wonderful plan? What if he says, I want you to go to Borneo and preach? What are you going to do? What if he says, I want you to stand up at a school council and say, we've had enough of this stuff?

What about that? Because that's what Jesus and the apostles did. And Jesus says, if you don't pick up your cross daily and follow after me, you're not worthy of me. So, you know, I have a real problem with the lackadaisical, weak-kneed, mamby-pamby hammock theology being taught from so many pulpits across America. Not all.

There's some good preachers out there who preach the truth and praise God for them. But there's just not enough. Oh, man. And so anyway, back to the chosen. I can no longer recommend it. That's just my opinion. You want to watch it?

I'm not going to be mad at you. You call up and say, hey, I still think it's between you and God. I can't recommend it anymore if you're going to compromise and have people promote those things on the set. It's a promotion of incredible sin against God.

And then some of the actors started defending the flag and all this stuff. I would love, OK, capital L, capital O, capital V, capital E, love. I'd love to drive down to the set in Utah and have a meeting with these guys and talk to them lovingly, patiently. I'm very well qualified to be able to defend the Christian faith and talk about issues of morality from the scriptures.

And I'm hoping that somehow, some way, one of the people involved with that set is listening to this right now. And hey, I'd be glad to come on down. I'm not going to start swinging and accusing everybody. Say, let's just talk. Let's open the word of God.

If you believe the word of God, let's see what it says. Where do we draw the line? What are the standards?

What do you do? Where are you going to stand for righteousness? How much compromise? These are tough questions, but they need to be dealt with. And they need to be. I wish. I just wish it would happen. But it's not going to.

They're not going to trust a guy in a radio named Slick. Come on. But I can no longer recommend the show.

And it's just me. If I was in charge of the show, the producer, whatever, and somebody came up with the pride flag, I'd say, I'm sorry, that's not allowed here. Well, what do you mean it's not allowed?

Here's what I mean by it. It's not allowed here. Just like drunkenness would not be allowed on the set. Okay, we've got to be tolerant, right?

Tolerant, right? Pedophiles. Okay, we can allow them on the set, too.

And have their stuff and have their pedophile stuff going on. No, no, I'm not going to do that. Well, why not? Why not be alphabet mob? Because the pedophiles are now using the same arguments, they're called minor attracted persons now. Not pedophiles, that's negative. Oh, no, minor attracted persons.

It's part of the alphabet mob of sexual orientation. Yeah, you're going to have that on there, too? Why not?

Why not? Yeah, so you have to draw the line someplace. You've got to draw the line someplace. And if you don't draw it, they will. The unbelievers will. They'll push the Christian faith into oblivion. I'm waiting to see what happens on the film now.

What are they going to do? I just, you know, I know I make a lot of people mad, and I'm irritating. My wife rubs her forehead around me a lot. I don't know what that is, but maybe it's related to this. I don't know. You know, she shakes her head, goes, and rubs her forehead. Usually when I'm saying something.

So maybe she's got a medical issue, we'll have to have her checked out. I don't know. But you know, I do know that I do make a lot of people upset. And on one hand, I want to say, I don't care. It doesn't bother me. And you want to get upset, go and whine someplace else.

I'm going to tell you what the word of God says. If you don't like it, that's between you and God. And on the other hand, yeah, I do care. I don't want people to be upset just to be upset. I don't want that, of course. You know, but if the truth offends you, then so be it. And that's my position. I don't want you to be offended by the truth. I want you to submit to it. Because the truth that offends you, the truth that comes from God that offends you, means you have the problem.

And if you're offended by the words of truth, about not allowing homosexuality, the alphabet mob, to swarm over society and groom society as a whole for its perversion, if you don't have a problem with that, then maybe you might want to look at what you're picking up and carrying each day. Is it the cross or is it a rainbow flag? What are you carrying? Let's get to Dante from Louisiana. Dante, welcome. You're on the air. Oh, how you doing, Matt? We talk a lot on the Clubhouse on Wednesday nights with Brother Silverstar.

I appreciate taking my call. I just, my question was, I'm a minister, just compassion. One of my deacons, he always likes to say that when we get to, like, the afterlife, God is going to erase all our memories, like, because he will quote, like, Revelation 21, verse 4, Isaiah 55, verse 17, where it says, like, all the former things will pass away and God will wipe away all our memories.

And not to make this a long question, because I just find that kind of problematic. I'm not dogmatic about the issue, but I look at verses like Luke 16, verse 19 and 31 with the rich man, the saint that was martyred in Revelation 6, Samuel called him back from the dead, and Moses and Elijah called back from the Transfiguration. So anyway, I just wanted to ask, like, do you, you know, it might not be like, you know, explicitly clear, but it just seems to me with the weight of the biblical evidence, I don't see it being the case that God is just going to wipe away all our memories in the afterlife. Do you find that statement problematic or do you see the scripture saying that we retain earthly memories or do we just forget it all? So you want to know if we're going to lose our memories or some of them when we get to heaven, right?

Yeah. Like God is going to wipe away our memories and we retain them. So what was the verse out of Revelation that he was talking about? Revelation 21 what? Revelation 21 4 and Isaiah 65.

Let's do Revelation one at a time. And he will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death. There will no longer be any mourning or crying or pain. The first things that passed away.

Nothing in there says the memories disappear. He's reading into the text, making us say what he wants. What's the other one? Isaiah what? Isaiah 65 verse 17. Okay. Instead the thorn bush, the cypress will come up and said the nettle myrtle will come up, uh, and it will be a memorial to the Lord and everlasting sign, which will be cut off. Not be cut off.

No, Isaiah, Isaiah 55 verse 17. Oh, 65. Okay. I'm sorry. My hearing. Yeah. I don't hear the S sound very well.

My hearing is a little shot. All right. Uh, you will leave your name for a curse to my chosen ones.

And the Lord will slay you by the servants. That one. Oh, here we go.

Because the former troubles, there's no, well, former things will not be remembered or come to mind. Oh, okay. We've got a break coming up. Okay. Sorry, man.

It's my hearing. Oh, no problem. Hey, we'll be right back. We'll get to it after the break. We'll, we'll analyze. Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

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I'm still here. All right. So the gentleman that you're talking about and with, uh, here's the thing. I'm going to get, I'm going to look at this verse, but here's a principle.

When someone says a verse means something and then they just quote it and go on, don't, don't let them do that. Let's take a look at the verse. What, let's take a look. Well, I'll get five. Well, great. Let's do one at a time. And you always want to look and see if the verse means what they say it means. That's the first thing you just got to do that. So this verse here, like the one revelation, it doesn't, uh, it doesn't, you know, it doesn't count.

It didn't work. But, uh, for behold, I create new heavens and a new earth and the former things will not be remembered or come to mind. What former things?

And that's the question. What former things? Now there's also a bit of logic here because God says he'll remember your sins no more. Now, if someone wants to say that they will not be remembered here in this verse, that means they're forgotten or they don't exist anymore.

They're gone. So we have a problem because God says he will remember our sins no more. Does that mean God doesn't know about them anymore?

That can't be because that means that God would not know all things. That's a problem if they say that phrase. So there's a difference between forgetting and remembering.

There's a difference between forgetting and not remembering. So when I lose my car keys, I don't go around with my car keys. I put them someplace. I walk a few rooms away and then go, there, I forgot where I put them.

Where are they? I can't do it on purpose. Forgetting is something that's kind of passive. It's just like, you know, I'm 66 and I walk into a room. Why am I in here? You know, this kind of thing. You know, I forgot the reason I sent myself in there, okay? Now, there are things in my past that I'm aware of that I don't remember. That means I don't bring them to my memory. I don't remember them. It's not that I can't remember them. I don't remember. To remember is to bring to the forefront something in your mind.

It's a choice you make. I remember that. You know, hey, remember yesterday when we went to the store? Oh, yeah, I remember that. You're choosing to bring up a memory. Remember when you lost your keys? Uh, what day was that?

I forgot what day was that, okay? So we can, from this, the former things will not be remembered, so God won't bring them up again. It doesn't mean we forget, okay? If he wants to say, well, if it means of us, it doesn't necessitate that it means us. And since God's in the creating and he said they won't be remembered anymore, then is that what it means? Well, it just, you know, like I said, God says he'll remember our sins no more. And that's all that's going on.

It's just a play on words, and your friend there needs to learn, and let's just put this way, proper hermeneutic principles, okay? Mm-hmm. All right?

Just real quick, wouldn't verse 16 kind of say that the things that we won't bring up again as like the former troubles and things of this life, would that like go with the context, like reading the verse before it? Yeah. So here's the thing, is, let me go back to it. Okay, where are we?

Go over here. I have to go forward. Oh, man, I got all these windows open. All right. So that was Isaiah 65, 17, okay. Yeah. Oh, man, dang it.

Okay, I got a keyboard cover that's coming apart. So, for behold, I created new heavens and earth. So the former troubles are forgotten, and because they're hidden from my sight. Okay, let's look at the verse, verse 15. You will leave your name for a curse to my chosen ones, and the Lord God will slay you. But my servants will be called by another name, because he who is blessed in the earth will be blessed by the God of truth. And he who swears in the earth will swear by the God of truth, because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they're hidden from my sight. So, when God says he forgets them, we know that it cannot mean that there's something of his knowledge that now is gone.

It's not possible. So when he's talking like this, he's simply using a poetic form to illustrate, it's forgotten, it's not here anymore, it's gone. That kind of a thing is all he's saying, that he's not going to remember these things, he's not going to bring them up, and that's what's going on, okay. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate it. All right, man. No problem, buddy. God bless. God bless you. All right. All right, let's get on the air with Alberto from Georgia.

Alberto, welcome, you're on the air. My question is, why do Christians spend so much time on stuff like non-important things that got not do really in the real world, the way the law, people in the streets, you know, maybe about logic, or- I can't understand you. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Why do Christians spend so much time- Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm trying to ask for clarification on something. Why do some, and I didn't understand that one word- Why do Christians- Christians. Okay, why do Christians what? Why do Christians- They spend so much time on stuff that's non-important within the law every day out there.

They talk about logic, or things that got not really that important within the law, doing the work of commission for the Lord- Okay, Alberto. Excuse me, Alberto. I can't follow what you're saying. Okay. Wait a moment. Okay, hold on a sec.

Okay, I'm just going to move along. I can't understand what he's saying. Folks, I do have a hearing loss, and stuff, but on my end, he was popping a little bit, and I would miss some of the syllables and the words. I wasn't sure. It kept going, and each time I try and say, what? To get back to it, he just keeps going, and so it just doesn't become fruitful. You're right, Joanne. He was talking very quickly, and it wasn't a very good connection, at least on my end.

I don't know if everybody else could hear him, but unfortunately, I do have 80 decibel ringing in both ears, and it really does get in the way sometimes, particularly if the connection's not really good, or someone's talking quickly, and I can't understand a word or two. That's just how it is. Amor, from North Carolina, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Mark. This is Dr. Deolweis.

I am a regular nurse, as much as I can. Thank you. Can you hear me okay?

Yeah. I hear you fine. Thank you. I really like your topic, the beginning, about, you're talking about this activity, and you're always a defender of the faith, very strong, and I know I have to do my part also. But the main question I want to ask you, when I talk to your screen reader, is that if a person dies, let's say for example, two, maybe you and me, one person dies, and he's like an evangelist, a preacher, like a preacher, and the other one is just a regular guy, he's safe also when you end up in heaven, is there, and this is always playing in my mind, I don't know, I read a lot, but I want to hear your voice. I'm not sure I understand, I'm not sure, hold on, we got a break coming up, hold on, we have a break coming up, okay, I'm not sure I understood the question though, so hold on, we'll be right back, folks, after these messages for open lines, 877-207-2276, we'll be right back.

It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. This is Matt Slick, right, hey, welcome back everybody, it's the bottom of the hour, we have three open lines, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276, I just want to give you a heads up, that we're going to Japan in November, and if you are interested in going there, and I'll be going with some people, we're going to do a small group, maybe 10 to 15 people, and do a tour of certain Christian sites, and a little bit of history from Japan, and seeing some of the sites and enjoying some of the culture as well, if that sounds like fun, this November all you're going to do is go to karm.org, type in Japan trip, in the search engine, you'll find all the information you need, alright, hey, let's get back to Amor, Amor, okay, let's try it again, buddy, alright? Yeah, the one that I want to ask you, and always bother me, is that, as I said, if a two person died, one is like a well accomplished pastor, a preacher, evangelist, and everything like that, and the other person is like a regular guy, saved also, but he did not do that much, he was also saved, but he's not like a preacher or evangelist, and both of them die, when they go to heaven, do they have, does God have a different place for the preacher, which is more accomplished, or whatever you call it, evangelist, than the other, like, if I'm staying in a hotel, they will be in the suite, I'm just in the basement, which is just okay with me, I'm in the same place with God, so, that's okay with me, it's not biblical. It's not if you're a pastor, or a mechanic, that's not the issue, the issue is, in the station that God has called you, have you done what he's wanted you to do where you are, so the pastor versus a mechanic, that's irrelevant, if a pastor is not doing what God wants him to do in his work, he's in trouble, and if a mechanic is doing exactly what God wants, in most of his endeavors, as a mechanic, let's just say, well then he's gonna have a higher reward, okay, it's not if a pastor, like me, I teach a lot, I'm on the radio, I'm on the internet, I'm on the website, you know, the videos, okay, does that mean I'm higher in heaven, absolutely not, God's given me a lot of responsibility, and I need to act accordingly and submit it all there, but what about a little old lady, the only thing God's called her to do is to be a prayer warrior, and she is faithful in that all the way, well, ultimate reservations in heaven to go up to the higher levels of goodness to see her, so okay. So we'll be about in the same place with God, there's no like, you are in the suite, I mean, you are in the fourth floor, I mean, there's no such thing like that, it's not like that, or the crown, I read also sometimes there will be, because God will be just what you did, I mean, you are still with him in heaven, the same place, but there will be like crown, because you have done more, or that's not, I'm interpreting you right, wrong. Okay, so we're gonna receive rewards in heaven, I don't know what those rewards are, I don't know what they mean, he doesn't tell us, and I don't know how that's gonna relate to what's gonna be occurring in heaven, he doesn't tell us in the word, so I don't know, and that's it, in all seriousness, I have a lot of things I do for the Lord, it doesn't mean I deserve a better place than the average Joe, it doesn't mean that, because what if I'm not doing what God wants me to do, I'm always having to second guess myself, Lord, is this what you want me to do? Am I doing this for my own will, or for yours? You know, and these are the issues, and what if I'm doing everything for my own will, and God's using it anyway, well, what reward do I get?

None. As long as I'm in heaven, I don't care, but, you see, it's okay. As long as we are all in heaven, I mean, even though I'm in the lowest floor, I will be okay with me.

That's right, you know, if it makes me a street sweeper in the lower part, the outer part of heaven, fine, that's good enough. I will be fine with me, but anyway, I just love talking to you, listening to you, show every time I have a chance, so more power to you, and I always say God bless you, what you do, man. Amen. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. God bless, brother. Thanks. Thank you, man. You have a nice day. Bye-bye.

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We most assuredly can and do need it. All right, let's get on the air with Clarice from North Carolina. Clarice, welcome, you're on the air. Hi, Matt. thanks for taking my call sure I just recently discovered you on the streets network so yeah and I've been a born-again Christian for 42 years and Dennis try to be a student of God's Word I read and pray every day and I've stayed under some really good men of God and I thank God for that and I have a pastor and I've always had pastors in these years I've been saved that believe the church is going to be raptured out before the tribulation and I have a relative who's the pastor in Florida that to me about the church is going through the tribulation and believes what you do and you know I I'm not going to leave a church because that's not the fundamentals of the faith as far as yet for you you know that sort of thing however I have never necessarily taken when a man of God says that taking that at face value just because they say it because for me I don't think it's clear black and white Jesus will rapture you out of such-and-such I think it's been in front like being of God of May and that's my opinion so my question to you is and even my pastor brought this up yesterday that in his message that lot is a typology of the church being raptured out and also I've heard him say Noah was like the eight people were saved when they were and I know it doesn't work tell you why it doesn't do the one works neither one works lot was still in the area of the destruction of around him he was preserved while he was in it Noah was inside the flood that killed people and the flood was around there the dangers all around them and they were inside it they weren't they weren't taken up out of the area of destruction they were in the midst of it both lot and Noah yeah it's a common thing it lots of type of the church and raptured up well what was lot raptured no well he was taken out of the city but it doesn't say just Sodom and Gomorrah it says the other cities around them were destroyed around them so I would say if I were debating somebody I'd say so were they still in the area yes were they preserved inside of the difficulty yes thank you very much was Noah in the ark and the ark was right there on top of the water right there present in the storm yes thank you very much then I would say got anything else well they always use the first things in first Thessalonians you think that's one go to verse you know I think chapter three of first Thessalonians what's what verse which one we're going to rest I'm sorry about so we will not all of course the one I want to quote a verse the scripture I forget it's all right but I'm happy to look it up real fast it will tell me what it is that's okay tell me I'm gonna buy a thing right in front of me I'm pretty fast on a computer what's the what's the verse like well it's either first or second Thessalonians chapter 3 and I'll just turn so it's lucky for me the verse is saying give me a couple words I can probably find it it's so you know well and I'm sorry it's chapter 5 concerning the times and seasons for you know that the day of the Lord comes with the faith but nothing I'm sorry it was chapter 5 instead of 3 yes I know the verse well yes I know it let me show you something okay the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the Archangel on the trumpet of God the dead in Christ will rise first and we here alive and remain shall be caught up together with him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air so shall we always be with the Lord therefore comfort one another with with these words that's the rapture right I have no problem with that's a rapture right okay right and he goes on he says in verse 5 he says now as to the times of the epics brethren you have no need of anything to be written to you for you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord comes like just like a thief of the night so the day of the Lord is one day the the rapture occurs and that's come like a thief of the night right yes okay then you go to 2nd Peter 3 10 but the day of the Lord will come like a thief 2nd Peter 3 10 I'll read it to you the day of the Lord will come like a thief in which the heavens will pass away the war with a roar the elements will be destroyed with intense heat and the earth and its work to be burned up so that's the same day isn't it it seems to me it is yes okay now if it's the same day and that's a good way it seemed it's a very good response it seems like it is see that's a good response it may be it may not be but it seems like it is that's a very good statement and we got a break so hold on and and then we'll get back we'll discuss it because here's the question I'm going to deal with if they both happen the same day then that happens that when the new heavens and new earth are made the rapture occurs with the new heavens and new earth where's the millennium we'll be right back after these messages it's Matt slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six here's Matt slick right I would welcome back to the show hey let's get back on here with Clarice a Clarice are you still there yes sir I am thank you all right so I like what you said it seems to be and that's a really good response seriously it is but it certainly does seem to be the case that the rapture and the creation of the new heavens and new earth happen on the same day right I've never thought about that now yeah yeah when someone showed me further points that's okay when someone showed me these two things he didn't say hey I'm gonna interpret this for you just said look at him and I went oh my goodness there's no millennium first thing I said I got converted on the spot so you've heard you know this excuse me excuse me I'm interrupting you okay you just said something and I know this may be for another day because I don't want to take up everyone else's time but you said there would be no millennium no literal no literal thousand that's right get this Jesus it's called all millennialism Jesus said that Satan must be bound right and he is bound according four thousand years no he's bound in Matthew 12 22 32 Jesus says the strong man must be bound in order for him to cast out demonic forces so he's bound because Jesus was doing it Jesus also said get this this was really freaky you know the phrase which says two men in the field one is taken one is left that's the rapture right yeah it's not absolutely not now that when I will say no it is not and all you got to do is read the context because it says in Matthew 24 Luke 17 it says it goes along the same way and it says it says as it was a days of Noah so shall it be the days of the coming of the Son of man for they were eating they were drinking they were giving in marriage till the day that Noah entered the ark and the flood came and Matthew 24 says the flood came and took them all away two men are being the field was taken so they say that's the good who's taken although it's not because the parallel in math in Luke 17 says two men are if I mean it says they were giving in marriage to the day that Noah entered the ark and a flood came in destroyed them all the ones who are taken are the wicked and when I show this to people when I take a few minutes and sit down with them and show it to them it's been a hundred percent conversion rate that everybody's always said you're right that's what it is it's the wicked were taken okay I have to ask you something I'm sorry to interrupt you but that's okay again I don't want to take up other people's time but my question you this because you have said this and you're like I'm gonna start thinking and now you get private do you get private talk question and answer things privately I don't know I don't do that I don't really charge no no no that in itself I mean well no I don't do that that I've never heard anyone say because I just can add the latest deeply I have wondered in in my mind I've been thinking okay how like where's the church gonna be if there's a thousand year reign on earth like where the belief if there was a rapture is pastors have said a pre-trib rapture and then Christ is going to come back and set up his reign on the earth for a thousand years where's the bride of Christ gonna be in that they say in heaven I know the argument well but look here's it here's something to think about this thing in Matthew 24 Luke 17 I'm gonna even blow your mind away a little bit further because the ones who are taken are the wicked they even ask Jesus where they taken and he answers the question in Luke 17 what verse is that in 24 that's 24 36 okay go there to make sure 24 37 no less that's a different topic that's a different thing altogether not even the angels but it's starting at verse 37 for the coming of the Son of man be just like the days of Noah okay now I'll show you that okay for as in those days before the flood they now who's the day okay they were eating and drinking marrying and given marriage to the day that no enter the ark they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away who's taken by the flood the sinners on earth absolutely there'll be two men in the field one will be taken and one will be left who's taken the sense that's right you just saw it now here's a question I've been here I'm 66 I've been converted since I was 17 I have been hearing pastors teach that this is the rapture so many times and they get it wrong I mean the rapture occurs that's another topic this is not about the rapture if they can't even get this right how can I trust them to get anything else right when it's so obvious you just read it and you just you got it mm-hmm now look at this I'm gonna show you something even more strange Luke 17 26 as just as it happened days of Noah so shall it be the days of the Son of Man they were eating here's a they again they were eating they were drinking they were giving in marriage they were being given in marriage till the no till the day that Noah entered the ark and the flood came and destroyed them all it's the wicked that's who's taken two men will be in the field one is taken it's the wicked who were taken right why yeah why are the pastors saying this is rapture it's not and it blows me away this is not revolutionary it's not you know it's not like old man this guy named slick on the radio saying something weird it's like what does it say and they can't even see it it's it's incredible now if you go down to the end of Luke 17 and they said we're gonna be taken an answer they said where Lord and he said to them where the body is the vultures also be gathered they're taken to a place of death okay now you have your Bible open all right Matthew 13 let's just go to verse uh you can order 25 but it's really before but we didn't get to it Matthew 25 Matthew Matthew 13 I'm sorry it's starting a verse 24 it's the tares and the wheat we don't need to read the whole thing because you're familiar I'm sure with the issue here is this hey they said should we tear up the tears he says no lest you tear up the wheat and then verse 30 says allow both to go together until the harvest and the time of the harvest I'll say to the Reapers first to gather up the who's gathered first mm-hmm that wicked are taken first mm-hmm have you ever heard that before nothing no but like the wicked are raptured well I don't know but what Jesus says is are taken first he says and bind them to be to burn them up and but gather the wheat in my barn and then if you go down to verse 40 he interprets the parable just as the tears are gathered up and burned with fire so shall it be at the end of the age now check this out the Son of Man will send forth his angels they'll gather out of his kingdom all stumbling blocks and those who commit lawlessness the wicked are in his kingdom they're taking out and I'm not showing you think of revolutionary it's what it says I show this to people and they do what you do hmm and I'm gonna ask them how come no one's seen this before how come you don't hear the preachers talking about it talk about pre-trib rapture we're gonna get out I say show me a single verse where it's preacher of rapture or a set of scriptures show it to me I don't see it what we do see here here's something I can show you a lot I was just wondering how are you tying this in also to those are you you believe there's no thousand your rank well that's the cake if you go to Revelation 20 I'll show you something okay did you just you've been taught there's a little no this is fine don't worry about it my show I can do what I want it's great okay so here's the thing revelation 20 they always say the word thousand is literal so I'm going to ask you some questions this is what relation 20 verses says that I saw an angel come coming down from heaven which you see it's a literal angel or figurative angel what would you say an angel command it's a little angel I would say so too I'd say literal holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand no okay did he have a literal key and a literal chain hmm I'd say yes or no on that yeah okay there you go so you can't say that definitely literal because it could he's gonna bind Satan with it that he's gonna bind Satan but Satan's not bound with a chain so it's not a literal chain is simple he laid hold of the dragon mm-hmm that that's figurative the serpent of old right that that's literal who is a devil and Satan hmm that's literal and done it for a thousand years so is it literal or figurative well that's literal how do you know because God owns the cattle I just did something know that they told you they told you it was literal how do you know it's literal from the context because in the context there's figurative usage along with literal usage and yet people just assume it's literal if it's literal and the rapture happens before the thousand years and the rapture is the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night and the new heavens and new earth is a day of the Lord come like a thief well then where's a thousand years for it if they both occur in the same day here let me show you something else we're almost out of time okay Matthew 24 verse 1 Jesus came out of the temple the disciples were there he said these stones will be torn down and they asked him tell us in verse 3 what will be the when will these things happen and what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age I purposely have not focused on the phrase the end of the age you should call back tomorrow I'll teach you about that that'll really mess you up okay the end of the age okay will it be the sign of your return and the end of the age and he goes on he talks all kinds of stuff about false christs and wars and rumors of wars and he's dead he says in the entry goes but immediately after the tribulation of those days the Sun will be darkened the moon will not give its light the stars will fall from the sky then the Son of Man will appear in the sky and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn they'll see him the Son of Man coming in the clouds and he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet and they'll gather together his elect from the four winds from once what the gathering of his people with the trumpet is that is after the tribulation and in 1st Thessalonians 4 16 they're gathered with the trumpet and there's only one great trumpet well I believe that in my spirit map and yet you know I mean seriously I went back and forth and I would you know I would love to ask you more questions but I won't but I do want to ask you this one question with Pastor John MacArthur no I wish I were I'd like to debate him on something but he's a great guy okay I would love to know what you'd like to debate him on but anyway charismatic gifts now for another day that charismatic gifts millennium in the rapture I would debate him on those friendly debate friendly yeah okay well listen thank you I would love to what's the best way to contact if we ever want a small group question and answer sure just email me info at karm.org you've been my website karm.org carm.org okay go to that website that's my website okay and get the bottom is the email address and just email me hey let's do it you know phone chat thing with a bunch of people that's fine okay no big deal okay thank you bless you god bless you you too god bless all right John from Winston-Salem I want to talk about the chosen tomorrow you got that question call me back then hey may the Lord bless you everybody I gotta go we're out of time god bless talk to you later another program powered by the truth Network