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How about that? Let's get to Troy from Texas. Troy, welcome. You are on the air. Thank you. Nice to talk to you.

Yeah, sure, you too. So my question is, so in Jeremiah 31, 33, he prophesied that the Lord will put the law on the people of Israel's heart. And then Paul in Romans 2, 15 says, you know, that the work of the law is written on the hearts of the Gentiles. Right. So how do these things mesh? Well, God is speaking covenantally. I can't answer that question.

It's all right. God is speaking covenantally to the people of Israel in Jeremiah. And what God does is bind himself by his word.

A covenant is a pact or an agreement between two or more parties. So God is working covenantally with Israel. And he is telling them that he's going to write the law on their hearts.

It's not just going to be external, but it's going to be internal. This is a hint towards the issue of regeneration and indwelling and things like that. So what we see here is that that is mentioned in Hebrews 10, 16. And I believe Paul wrote Hebrews, but he's writing in order to communicate to them that God's faithfulness is to them, even though they don't have the law perfectly. The law on their heart is the issue. Paul had already written, like you said, in Romans 2, 15, that the law is written on the heart of the unbelievers as well. The reason it's written on the heart of all people is because we're made in the image of God.

And that's out of Genesis 1, 26 and 27. So anyway, both Israel and the Gentiles are going to have their hearts written on the law in a more profound way with the indwelling of God and the Holy Spirit who indwells the believers. And so that's what's going on. Okay? Okay. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. It just seems like in Jeremiah, it's like this thing is going to happen, as if it's not already. Of course. But I guess it's not, it doesn't say that, obviously, but okay.

That's true. Yeah, well, when God says it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Now the when, that's the issue.

When's it going to happen? And so we have the ability to look backwards throughout history and see the redemptive work of Christ and that even Jews can have the law written on their hearts. Now, like I said, automatically it already is, but we're talking here, not just the idea of, yeah, I know it's not right to steal. It's more than that. See, the Christian is indwelt by God and he really is aware of the law and what's right and what's good. It really echoes with strength through his heart and mind. And this is what's going on in Jeremiah.

This extra, this real regenerative work, this thing that God's going to be doing, a miraculous work later on in people. And that's what's going on. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I can totally see, you know, in my own lifestyle, I went from not caring so much about sin, but like when I became a believer, then it really affected me more holistically. Right. So one of the signs of regeneration and the movement of God in us and through us, where instead of just an awareness of the law, now we want to live it. We don't want to lie and cheat and steal, et cetera. It's really upon our hearts.

We can really feel it. That kind of thing. Okay. All right. All right. Well, thank you.

Hey, you're welcome, Troy. God bless, buddy. God bless. All right. God bless you. All right.

Okay. Hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, all you got to do is dial 8772072276. We have four open lines.

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And in Rumble. And you can also email me info at karm.org if you have a comment or a question. Or you could even call me, 8772072276. Let's get to Buskman from Dayton. Welcome, Buskman. You're on the air. Hi, Matt.

Always great to talk to you, sir. Question, Proverbs 6, Book of Wisdom, speaks of going to the ant you sluggard. Okay.

And shows what an ant does, which is stores up his food for times when he cannot be out getting food. Should Christians be prepping, Matt? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, we should be prepping. We should have a few months of supply of food and a couple, three, four weeks of water.

It just makes sense. We don't want to rely on our technology. Now, as a matter of fact, my wife and I, we've been slowly doing that. Just slowly getting things ready. We have canned goods. We have stuff. We're not talking about a bunker and a helipad and radar operated machine gun turrets.

No, no, no. But we just have enough that we could survive for two months, three months if we needed to on our own. We have a large supply of water. We have a jacuzzi. We have a water filter that can take anything and everything out of that. You can pour sewage into it and it comes out. We use it all the time.

I mean, we don't put sewage in it, but we filter our water out. We have an extra fridge in the garage and we have canned goods and shelves and things like that. We also have a couple solar panels and a battery pack that you can charge it. Well, just two days ago, we had a power outage here at the house.

We're like, okay. I had these little portable batteries I keep charged for charging up cell phones. I gave one to my wife because her battery was getting low. When we went to bed, the power was still not on. She and I both used CPAP machines. We had these battery things and we'd hook them up and there was no problem.

Then later the lights came on. So, it's just that kind of stuff. We should just be prepared. Okay. Okay. So, we shouldn't live our lives like we're all Elijah and we'll send ravens to feed us?

Well, no. God will provide, but we need to be active. Men, in particular, responsible for their families to lead and guide and provide and protect.

Part of the issue of protection is to provide food and water and clothing for the family. But what happens if there's an economic collapse? What happens if the Biden crime family gets to do everything it wants and the Democrats take complete control and socialist hell takes over?

So, you can't have gas stoves and gas this and gas that, the idiocy of what they're doing. Let's say that happens. Well, then how are you going to survive when gas goes to $10 a gallon, $20 a gallon? Is that going to happen?

I don't know. But with morons in charge like that, those things are not that far off. So, shouldn't we be prepared?

Should we make whatever you think is necessary for the condition and the situation you're in to be prepared for something so that you can have enough food for more than a week or two? When Katrina happened and it went into and devastated New Orleans, I'm going to be careful how I'm saying these words because I know that there's children listening and cars traveling and stuff like that. But within 72 hours, there was all kinds of mayhem where gangs were going around doing things that should not have been done and women were jeopardized. People were killed. Robberies were occurring. And then, of all surprising ridiculous stupidity, the government started coming in and confiscating weapons from the law-abiding, which the criminals wanted that to happen so that they could be free then to rob people without fear. Resistance.

Yeah. The liberals, they can't think that way out of a wet paper bag. They think people are basically good. They have no clue. They're so clueless.

And so, they try and operate that way. In fact, that's why people are moving out of Portland, Oregon. Businesses are shuttering in San Francisco.

The same thing's happening. People are leaving by the droves. Businesses are shutting down because the liberals' policies are in place. Defunding the police and giving liberals and criminals rights. It's just opening the borders.

I just have to say this. It really irritates me so much. But if you want to destroy a country, you do exactly, exactly what's happening in our country right now. Exactly. You destroy the culture. You destroy the language.

You have it invaded from people who are foreign who don't have your culture, your values. You destroy the infrastructure. You destroy the energy production system. You brainwash the children. You go woke so that everybody starts hating the culture and the country.

You just cause it to fracture. And you foment race wars, racism, socialism. This is exactly what you do if you want to destroy the country. And it's exactly what's happening. So all the more reasons.

Christians should be preparing. I recommend people buy silver because I've researched it. Gold, you have a single gold coin and you can put it in your pocket.

It's worth $2,000. Well, you can buy a loaf of bread with a single coin. If you buy junk silver and silver that's $25 per coin, then you have something to work with and to barter with if need be.

So I recommend people do that. I'm looking into goldbacks, which several states now are producing legal currency called goldbacks. So Colorado is, New Hampshire, Wyoming I think is, Montana. And there are actually dollar bills with different denominations, 10, 20, 30, 40. There's actually gold actually woven into it, into the fiber. And so it actually has value, not just paper. So more and more states are starting to do that. And the reason they're doing that is because the dollar is not being trusted in the world much anymore.

People are moving away from it and that will cause the economy of America to collapse. So everything that you want to do to destroy this country is being done. It's being done.

So, oh yeah, I've been studying this for a long time. And that's why I call it the Biden crime family. The FBI is corrupt. The DOJ is corrupt. So, you know, what I say here on the radio, I'm waiting for them to come get me and arrest me. Why?

Because I said something they shouldn't have said. That's no joke. That's no joke. Oh, I believe you. Hey, we got to break something. You want to hold? Let me know.

Or just keep going. I am good. Thanks, Matt. I greatly appreciate it, brother.

All right, Bushman. God bless, buddy. Hey, folks, we got three open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show.

If you want to give me a call, all you got to do is dial 877-207-2276. Let's get to Chuck from Burlington. I think it's New Jersey.

North Carolina. There we go. Welcome. You're on the air. You're right, Matt. It is New Jersey, too, because that's where we're at.

Oh, it is New Jersey? Okay. Yeah, Joy-Z.

New Joy-Z. Anyway. All right. The mob tried to get me to work for them. Yeah.

The mob? I didn't. I called the FBI. My dad said, you're stupid, dear.

They'll have you hanging up on the telephone pole. Oh. But anyway, that was a long time ago. Okay. But, Psalm 57-2. Okay. In the ESV, I believe it says, God will accomplish his purpose through you. Is that correct? Because I don't have an ESV with me.

Not bad. It says in the ESV, I cry out to God most high, to God who fulfills his purpose in me. And the ESV says, to God who accomplishes all things for me. King James, to God that performeth all things for me.

The NIV, who fulfills his purpose for me. Okay. So those are what the different ones say.

So what do you got? Yeah. It could be taken either way, huh? Good. I like, I like the ESV, you know?

The reason is, that says our sovereign God will accomplish his purpose through each of us. Each of us believe us, whether we're good or bad. I mean, I'm a bad guy. Of course.

You know, I'm a bad boy. And I know, isn't that wonderful? Yes. Wow.

Yes, it is. Uh-huh. Yeah. So, so, uh, so comforting, you know?

Beautiful. We get all these joys in that. Yes. I agree.

And, uh, it's a good reminder for me as well. And the uphill battle of ministry, but, uh, and life as a whole, we need to trust in God beyond our ability to understand. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Praise God. Really.

Through much tribulation, we must send us through to the kingdom of God, right? That's right. Yep. That's true.

Also, uh, I just, I just wanted to say, Matt, I agree with you what you said about our country. Uh, I have no idea why they're doing it. You know? I do. I know why.

Like that cultural, go ahead and tell me. They're trying to destroy the country. They want to remake it.

Yeah, they are. But why? Because there are people in control. You can't have America. You can't have America be that strong and have that much of an influence all over the world.

The socialists and the communists have been working for decades to infiltrate America, to bring it to its knees. They want to control. Yeah, you're right. It's the enemy. Furthermore, it's a spiritual battle as well because it was the Christian church in America that would send people out into the world.

Not so much anymore. The missionaries used to come out of England and they were coming out of the States and now American churchianity has become so comfortable in its hammock and it doesn't know what it means to pick up the cross daily and follow after. And so they keep compromising and allowing the government to do one more thing to take away their freedom as long as they can have their comfort. And the integrity of standing up for righteousness above comfort is something that's lost in the Christian church and our culture. And so we're being destroyed, so in part, so that people can be brought into slavery, so that the gospel will not go forth.

Think of it in terms of the enemy of the gospel, working through his people throughout the world to destroy all remnants of truth. This is going to lead eventually to the tribulation period and the arrival of the antichrist, which cannot occur until the apostasy comes first, the apostasy of the Christian church. And it's happening.

Okay? Yeah, it is happening. We're on the way, aren't we?

Yes, we are. It sounds like it, because America was the last stronghold to me of Christianity, and now it's just dying. I mean, we still have a lot of good Christianity, like you said, but we still do. It's comfort theology, it's diaparenian theology, I call it. There are churches, underground churches in Iran that are flourishing. In the Muslim country, there's thousands of people coming to Christ on a regular basis daily, weekly, because they're having visions and dreams of Christ.

These are people who are crying out in their oppression. When people get comfortable, they don't look up to God anymore. They don't trust in him anymore. And our country, as Christians, has largely turned its back upon God, and we're getting what we deserve. Okay.

Well, it's like Tim Elliott said, he is no fool to give away what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. Praise the Lord, right? Praise the Lord. That's right. Amen, brother.

Oh, glory to God. Okay. Okay, Matt.

Good talking to you. Keep up. All right. I know you're going to keep on keeping on.

I don't even have to tell you. Right. See you later. All right, brother. God bless. Okay.

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Four open lines. David from Kansas City. Dave, welcome. How are you here? It just shows you the sovereignty of God.

That segue that you had before segues into the question I have. We moved four years ago up here to the Kansas City area, Dallas-Fort Worth area. Now, Dallas-Fort Worth is the buckle of the Bible Belt, and we had trouble finding a decent church there. We moved to a rural area no less than five miles from International House of IHOP, which is not a good church. But we moved to a rural Kansas City area. We've been to four churches so far, and right now the church we're in, we liked. We knew we had an influence there because it was a younger, immature church, but the pastor put his wife in the pulpit on Mother's Day, and she preached the sermon right out of the Bible. Okay.

Yeah. Pastor needs to be rebuked. It's his wife.

So who gives a flying crap if it's his wife or not? The pastor needs to be rebuked for the heresy of promoting something that is unbiblical. Whether it's his wife or not, he's supposed to lead the congregation and not be a wolf. He needs to spend his time diving into the Word and preaching the truth out of God's Word and not compromising the Word of God and having his wife get in the pulpit. She should not be there. He should not have allowed her to get there. He's disqualified. He doesn't know what's going on.

He needs to be rebuked. And a good man of God who believes in the truth needs to stand up and get in that position and do the job right. Well, that's what I'm going to rebuke, but it breaks my heart because I love the guy, but it's going to break my heart, but I've got to do it. I don't like to do this, but sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do, my friend.

I understand. But what are we men called to do? We men are called to do those difficult things and push those rocks out of the way and lift those trees out of the way and clear the path of righteousness.

That's what we're obligated to do. And we have more and more people today who are just compromising the Word of God, letting women get into the pulpit and preaching and teaching, which is unbiblical. It is so clearly unbiblical. How can anybody who takes the Word of God seriously not see it?

I'm going to say this like I've been doing now periodically for 18 years on the radio five days a week. I'll offer to come out to your church and debate the issue. Does the Bible support or not the issue of women pastors and elders? Let's have a debate.

Does the Bible teach that it's okay to have women pastors and elders? I'll debate anybody on it in a public setting. I'll come out to your church and I'll do it for what the Word of God says. Now I've been to this for 18 years and not a single person has ever taken me up on it. Hold on. We've got a break right there. This kind of stuff makes me mad.

The compromise that men are doing in the church is pathetic. I'll be right back after these messages. Welcome back to the show. If you're new to the show and you hear me talking like I do, stay tuned. You'll hear more of it. Women are not to be pastors and elders.

I can teach on this extensively. I do offer a challenge to debate anybody on this topic. It's a serious issue. Men are failing in the church and we need to step up and start being godly men. Women is not your job to be an elder, not your job to be a pastor. If you attend a church where there's an elder or pastor who's a woman, you need to offer correction to the staff to say this is not biblical. You can go to my website, karne.org, and you can look up the issue in, I believe it's in apologetics section on the menu, women in ministry. You can go there and there's articles, lots of articles there about the issue of women pastors and elders and they are not to be that.

I can give a theological teaching, biblically based teaching and all this stuff. I know the answers. I know the responses.

I know what people say. Let me just say this, we'll get to the caller David here in a second, but the fact is that 80% of churches and denominations that adopt women pastors and elders within two generations start adopting pro-homosexuality. This is because they don't believe the word of God and the truth of what it is and even in the things that are uncomfortable for them, they lift their fingers, put them up in the air, see which way the societal wind is blowing, they follow that direction. When they do that, they go into apostasy as the Bible prophesies will occur even within Protestantism. It's already happened in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox. Those are two false churches who lead you to damnation and the Protestant denominations are following suit. Not all of them.

There are a lot of good churches out there, but it's happening to Dave. You still there? Yeah.

Yeah, I am. And I gave him a book a couple of weeks ago by Tom Askel that said compromise versus accommodation. And this is one thing I can't compromise on. It's not an accommodation. And I want to confront him like, I'm glad I have this because I can play this for him, but he said his wife was only teaching and preaching from the pulpit under his authority. Okay, so what he's saying then is, it's okay for a woman to get up and teach and exercise authority over men as long as she's doing it under his authority, even though Paul the apostle says he does not allow that to occur.

There are no qualifications for it. I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over men but remain silent for Adam was first created, 1 Timothy 2, 12 and 13. So what this man has done is now taken the word of God and said, oh, she can do that to the contrary what Paul the apostle says as long as she's under my authority. So his authority now has been compromised because he does not have the wisdom to understand what the word of God needs to say and does say about this.

He needs to go to the congregation and he needs to publicly apologize for what he did, give a Bible study on why it's not proper for women to be pastors and elders. If you guys want, if anybody wants in the country, anybody wants me to, I will get on line and I can do remote into a Bible study, into a church thing, I can teach you why what it is. It's already with the doctrine of the Trinity, lay the foundations of theology down and why it comes down the way it does, biblically based. I do it in a video or I'll do it on a phone, into groups.

You just contact me and I'll be glad to do it. I'll be polite, I'll be firm and I'll be biblical and you can ask all the difficult questions you want and we'll go to town on it. But this is a serious issue, but a lot of people, and it just makes me mad, when men get so afraid of society and issues that they want to be contemporary and helpful and let women get in there and do their jobs. Just makes me mad. I know. Men need to stop it. Stand up. I know. The Bible says, what does it say? Let me see. I blame you, Matt.

It makes me mad. First Corinthians 16, 13, be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. That's what Paul the apostle says in First Corinthians 16, 13, and yet let all that you do be done in love.

So we're to act like men, we're to be strong. I started doing this, reading through the gospels and only focusing on the red letters. You know, maybe a little bit more here and there, to learn about Jesus, how he was as a man. So he can teach me so that I can teach others what the biblical manhood is in Christ Jesus. He overturned the temple tables.

He did the things that were right that pleased God the Father, not man. Men who do that, who please men and please people, instead of getting up in the pulpit and preaching the truth, they are disqualified. They need to step down and go do something more important. Well, there's nothing more important than preaching the word of God, but do something more qualified.

Mow lawns. It's just ridiculous. Can I add one? Sure. You got me going. I'm going to clip this and send it to him, obviously. But one thing I want to say to everybody, I will say this to everybody, please pray and pray every day on your prayer for Matt and Anik, pray for his ministry and support his ministry. I love you, brother. Okay. Thank you. We do appreciate that.

We do. This is a tough ministry. I appreciate it, brother. God bless.

Okay. Hey, folks, just to segue off of that a little bit, we do ask for your prayers and support in the ministry. We need financial support.

We always need that. I rarely ask, but we especially need prayer support. We have missionaries all over the world, in Africa, in South America, and in Turkey, and we support them.

It takes some cash to do that, of course, but the goal is to have them present the gospel the way they can with their ministries and with the web and things like that. And so this is a tough ministry. It's a tough ministry. It's a very difficult ministry.

I'm 66 years old and working harder than I ever have. And I've done a complaint. It's just this is for the kingdom of God. This is for the Lord Jesus Christ. And I would just covet your prayers for this ministry. We absolutely need your prayers. We really, really, really do. This has been a tough ministry. There's so much to do.

I have hundreds and hundreds of questions to answer. And unfortunately, I'm the one who does the writing and research. We need to get more writers and researchers just to do things in a very biblically-based, doctrinally-centered, Christ-centered, soteriological, historically-redemptive approach. We don't compromise the word of God. And because of it, we've been threatened with lawsuits.

We've been cursed. We've had evil sent to us in various forms of mails. Email that is, I've been swatted. They call the SWAT team on you. That's happened to me. I've been followed in cars.

We've had bumps in the night and things like that. And so I'm just saying, this is what it means to pick up your cross and follow after Christ daily. So please remember this ministry in prayer. We really do need it. Okay.

Praise God. All right. Mike from Winston-Salem. Hey, welcome.

You there? Mike. Let's see. I don't know if we're having a problem here. He says, let's see, does the fall of our country coincide with more women preachers?

Yes, it does. I don't know if you can hear me. I'm just going to leave the phone line open. Yes, it does fall in line and coincide with the compromise of the word of God. The issue of women pastors and elders, let me explain something, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm going to put Mike on hold just in case, which community we can try my game before. Let me give a very brief reason for the position here. The doctrine of the Trinity is that there's one God in three distinct, simultaneous, co-eternal persons. The father sent the son, the father and son send the Holy Spirit. There's a hierarchy within the Trinity. One sent the other, et cetera. And so in the incarnation, Jesus was made a man and in the garden of Adam and Eve, Adam was the one who was given the authority to name the animals and to name his wife. And when they sinned, the pre-incarnate Christ came to the man and said, Adam, where are you? He didn't ask the woman, what have you done? He addressed the man first because the man has the authority.

He's the one in that headship role. Timothy 2, 12 and 13, I'm going to go through this quickly because we're coming up to a break. In 1 Corinthians 12, 12 and 13, Paul says, I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over men but are being silent, for Adam was first created. He ties it into the created order. The word silent there doesn't mean absolute silence. That's the word sagah. What it is here is hesukiah. It means to keep it down, to be reserved about it, not to do this.

And why? Because Adam was first created. Now, in 2 Timothy 5, 17, it talks about the elder, those who work hard at preaching and teaching. And in Titus chapter 1 and 1 Timothy 3, the elder, the pastor is automatically an elder, 1 Corinthians 5, 17, the elder is to be anermes gunaikos, a man of one woman, a husband of one wife. This is the instruction that is given.

And people don't realize this is what's being taught. Because as I said, in 1 Peter 2, 12 and 13, Paul says he does not allow a woman to be an authority over men. That's in chapter 2. In chapter 3, the next chapter, he says he's giving instructions on how people are to behave in the church, which is the living God. He's giving specific instructions. This is what the command is from the apostle of God himself.

And yet people dismiss it in their arrogance. They go against the word of God, and they get up in the pulpit and preach and encourage the followers of Christ to do the same. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages, so please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. This is Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's see, let's get with Alberto from Georgia. Alberto, welcome, brother, you're on the air. Hello?

Yeah, hey, you're on the air, buddy. So what do you got? Okay, yeah, what a question. How do you handle a situation with the pastor or the church leaders and you try to talk to expose something they're saying is false or something they claim that God revealed to them, like a sin, something that happened three months ago, that God forgave you three months ago, and then three months later in the future, they claim that God revealed your sin.

When we ask you, you know it's not true, when it's all gossip, then they try to explain, talk. Wait, you're saying so many things, I'm having trouble following you. Okay. How can you handle a situation when the leadership doesn't let you a chance to speak in the congregation? Speak about what? To defend yourself or a topic in the Bible, about a certain topic, about salvation, like they say you're losing, you're saying that you cannot lose it, but they won't get a chance to speak. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

So here we go. You need to go to the elders and you need to talk to them about whatever it is the issue is. You need to talk to them first.

Okay? Yeah, but they won't listen. The pastor himself. They won't listen. The pastor or a big deacon, they won't listen, sometimes they say something, they'll cut you off.

Well, what are you talking about, are you being respectful or is it a liberal church and they don't want truth? No, not that they're respectful, they just won't cut you off, they'll start screaming and cut you off, try to say something, and they'll cut you off. Wait, wait, wait, wait, you said they're screaming, are they screaming at you? Yes, like that, they'll start to go to, they'll scream at you, they'll shout you down, they'll start moving their hands at your face, their hands at you, and stuff like that.

Well that seems rather extreme, so... Well, that's the way it was with me. Okay, well, I don't know what's going on and I can't, I can't exegete that. So if you go to the elders and they are not open to discussing things with you, you might want to talk to some of your friends about it, to see what's going on.

That's what I would do. But friends, they're all included together, they're all the other members, the ones in leadership positions, even the church, they're all pastors, the majority of the church's family. But what you're... You can't trust none of them.

Okay, hold on. So what you're telling me is that everybody has the same opinion about you? Because it's all gossip, sir, they say God claimed that God revealed to them your sin, but their gossiping is putting around something, they said that God revealed my sin, something that happened three months ago, I would have said, if I have to forgive me, he throws in a deeper deceit, separates from the east to the west, but yet they consider my sin bad, yet they be gossiping, but they don't look at their sins.

You know what I mean? They'll expose only your sin, but not their sin. Yeah, it's difficult for me to be able to analyze all that, to know what's going on, so I'm just not sure what to tell you, okay? Because if you're telling me that... But how do you know really where he claims that God revealed to him, and you know it's not true? They say God told you, told him something that you know for a fact it's not true.

Then if you know for a fact it's not true, you need to leave that church, because they're obviously being misled, and they're not open to being corrected. Yeah. Okay?

So you leave it, so it's all basically trying to control the person, break them down emotionally and mentally. Wait a second. Wait. Alberto, you're saying so many things that are so fast, you string them together, and in this it's just difficult for me to be able to read between the lines to understand what's going on, so I can't really tell you. I don't know. You said the elders are screaming at you. I find that difficult to believe that you're screaming.

So then you say other people don't want to hear also. I just can't. I don't want to tell you, okay?

You're going to have to have some friends you're going to talk to that you can spend time with and going over things. I don't know what else to tell you. Okay? If you don't think that church is- Lord, I can't trust a resident church member.

If you can't trust this particular church you're in, maybe it's time to find another church and talk to the elders at that church, okay? And see what- All right. Okay? All right. Thank you. Okay.

God bless, buddy. Okay. All right. Now let's get to Mike from North Carolina.

Mike, welcome. You are on the air. Okay. I hope you can hear me now.

Yes, I can. There you go. All right. Okay. Good. I was yelling into my phone. I'm here. I'm here.

No. You basically answered my question because the decline in the church, and this was just something that hit me when you were talking previously with other callers, that the decline in the church seems to correlate with the increased number of women pastors. Now, in this area here, you can't find them, but you go to big cities, or if I go to Miami, and you look at some of the Baptist churches in Miami, some of them are led by women pastors, and so the decline in the church, and I think you've answered that question, seems to correlate with, and also not just the decline in the church, but the acceptance of more liberal doctrine seems to correlate so much with women.

And then, as I was sitting here waiting, I started thinking, you know what? In 1941, there was only one person that voted against declaring a war on Japan after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and that was Jeanette Rankin. She was the only woman in Congress at the time, and now we see so many more women in leadership positions, and I started thinking, I know there is differences in the way men and women think. Not that women can't think like men, but differences in their emotional makeup. Men are more concrete, logical, matter-of-fact, women are more emotional, and so I start connecting these things together. Now, this is something that's just kind of hitting me, so I really haven't thought about it that much, but just wondering what your take on it is, because there's such a difference between how women and men approach things. Yeah, there are, and you know, there are differences.

Women are, generally speaking, more emotional, men are generally less emotional, and that can certainly influence your decisions, and it can be beneficial or not beneficial, depending on the situation. But I can say this, that, you know, I think, and it's not just women in government. I heard recently that there was a study done or something that there are more women in colleges now than men, and when I was at the University of Florida, it was like three to one men to women, you know, it was like, you know, finding a date on campus was almost next to impossible, you know, unless you were a football player or something. There's an attack on man masculinity. At this point, I would recommend that everybody watch the documentary done by a feminist, and it's called The Red Pill, and at the end of the documentary, she says she doesn't know she's a feminist anymore, because she deals with the issue of men's issues and how men are being abused and attacked all over the country.

It's happening. And so, the laws are set against us. Women side with women automatically, women versus men disparity for the exact same crime. Women get far less sentences and severity. Men get more. Men are just under attack. I read a comic once where divorce is when two people find out they made a mistake and one of them keeps paying for it.

Now, you know, it's a joke. We do have to, you know, do child support and stuff like that, but I'm just saying there's a heavy attack, and so men are the butt of jokes, they're ridiculed, they are incompetent, and this is how it is. So why go to college? It deters them from the self-worth and self-promotion and reaching for greater things, because they are attacked so much. And women are the ones who are now moving into places of authority and leadership.

And this can't be good for our country. And the reason is because it gets women out of the home, and the children who are raised are then raised in unhealthy situations. The best person to be home for raising a child, normally speaking, is the mom. And if the mom and dad are both out in the workforce, who raises the child?

Shove them off to some secular government school or secular child care? Whatever it is. These are things, I know I'm slipping a lot of toes, but this is why, and it's bad.

When men fail, countries are destroyed. That's how it is. Right. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I'm in 100% agreement with you on women's role in the church. I think they do have a role in the church, but not a leadership role. Yes, they do. That's right. They can prophesy, they can have words of wisdom, words of knowledge, they can help with children, they can teach women, teach children. They can do all kinds of stuff, but they're not to be in positions of spiritual authority over men in the church.

Okay. I have one other question, and this is out of curiosity. Were you ever in a classroom situation as a student, and when they call out the role, they usually call out the last name first, and they called out, Slick Matt, did people crack up? My name has led to all kinds of interesting scenarios and situations throughout my life. And yeah, one of the ones that I enjoyed the most was my wife's first name is Annique, and it's a common name in France because she speaks French.

Her mom was born and raised in France, so her name's Annique Slick. We first moved to a city for me to go to seminary. We wanted to join a gym, and we met this guy in the street at a big fair, all these people with booths and everything, and he's all buffed, and he goes, you want to join a gym? Yeah, we do. We actually do.

We really did. He said, good. What's your name? I said, last name Slick, and he looked at me. He didn't believe me. He goes, no, it's my last name. And he goes, you could tell he didn't believe. I said, no, it's my real name. He goes, okay. And he kept writing, and he said to my wife, what's your first name?

She said, Annique. He turned around and walked off, and we go, no, it's our name. It's for real.

He wouldn't believe us, and he walked off. So that's a funny story, but yeah, that's Slick and Reverend Slick. And people think Matt Slick is a radio name, but it's not. It's my real name. So anyway, yeah, and I learned to run as a kid because of it too. In fact, this is just a little bit more info, I ran so much as a child from being chased because my dad was in the service and went to 12 different elementary schools, Bucktooth and Skinny and last name Slick, I ran so much that my heart physically was so in such great shape that a cardiologist once said that my heart is going to give me 10 years of extra life. That's how good it is. Yeah.

He said, did you do a lot of running when you were a kid? I'm laughing. Yeah. So there you go. All right. All right, man. God bless. All right, man. God bless. All right.

Well, I would like to get to Ray from San Diego where I used to live in Escondido, Ray, and on Where Did Christ Go During the Three Days. Call back tomorrow and we can get to that because there's some theories about that and the music's starting because we're out of time. Sorry about that, brother. I know you waited 10 whole minutes. I do apologize for that, but please call back tomorrow. Okay? Hey, folks, we are out of time. May the Lord bless you. By His grace, we're back on here tomorrow and we'll talk to you then. Have a great evening.