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It's just Matt Slick. Okay, got a lot of stuff going on here. But you know what? Right at the beginning of the show, and I'm in a good mood, right at the beginning of the show, Laura sent me what she said is a really good hate mail. Now, hate mail isn't for another couple of days, but I want to just read it now. I haven't even looked at it, but I want to read it now because you know me, I got issues. I like hate mail. I think hate mail is pretty cool. I know a lot of people do.

They said it was good. So I'm going to get right into it, and let's see where to go. There we go. All right, now, here we go.

This is some hate mail. For those of you who might be tuning in new, you're not sure, yes, Matt Slick is my real name. I answer questions about the Bible.

Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Unity by Islam, the Occult, UFOs, Evolution, Transcendental, some philosophy, biblical theology, preaching, teaching, women pastors and elders, baptism, all kinds of stuff. I've been doing this for a long time. Matt Slick is my real name, and we get a lot of hate mail because the sites had well over 151 million visitors over the years. So we get people who just wish the worst upon me, and that's okay because, well, it's a free country. All right, so here goes. Let's see if Laura is correct in that this is a good hate mail.

She said it was a good one. So let's see. I'm going to get right to it. All right, this comment was under your article, Is the Lord's Supper a Representation of the Sacrifice?

Thought I'd Share. All right, Matt Slick, this is what kills me about you, Sola Scriptora, Protestants. Of course, I'm adding a little tone, but I think it's apropos given the email.

This kills me about you, Sola. In quotes, Sola Scriptora, Protestants. Christ himself said he would offer his own body and blood as food and drink for us for eternal life. He repeated it when people like you, oh, I love this, people like you heard him say it and doubted. I didn't hear him say it.

I read it. Anyway, and then he tripled, tripled down and said it again. He tripled down? Okay, I think he tripled down.

So first of all, let me respond to that because it's apropos here. You know, we do apologetics. Jesus also said he was a door. Does that mean he's a literal door?

No. And if he was literally offering his body and his blood, then why does the Bible say in Leviticus 1711 that we're not to drink the blood of any flesh? Now, so was Jesus violating Levitical law, Mr. Catholic? Because that's what I think as a Catholic they say this. See, they don't answer these questions because they're like, oh, what?

What did you say? Yeah, you know, you go to Leviticus 1711 and what it says right there, it says that God forbids us to consume any blood of any flesh. And then when you say this to a Catholic, you know what they do? They do this. Now, if you could have seen my zero expression IQ face, then that would have been, you know, you'd have smiled. You'd have gone, oh, that's what they do. But you can imagine me looking like all the lights are out in my head.

Just imagine me just sitting there like a novocaine face, you know. That's usually what happens when I'm talking to Catholics and I read this stuff because they're like, what? Because they don't study the Bible.

They study Catholicism. Okay, let me continue with this. What? He says, what? Question mark. Sola Scriptura doesn't apply here? These aren't the words of God?

A lot of question marks. You can't have it both ways. What both ways?

What both ways? I'm just reading the word of God. Anyway, either inform yourself about what the Catholic Church is. Well, I've only written, I think, maybe someone could do a count for me while I'm talking on the radio. I could update it. But I think I've written like 140 articles on Catholicism. I think so. A lot.

And no, I don't have issues. So either inform yourself about what the Catholic Church is and then present your questions or concerns or sit down and be quiet. Yes. That is awesome. I love that.

That's a good one. But I think either inform yourself about what the Catholic Church is and then present your questions or concerns or sit down and be quiet. Could I sit down and still be vocal? Because I always want to know.

Because they give me these rules. You know, sit down and be quiet. Well, what if I'm sitting down and I'm still talking? Is that okay? Can I stand up and be quiet and make facial expressions? I don't know.

These are technical questions you have to ask. Anyway, he goes on. It would be better. It would well be better that a millstone be tied around your neck rather than lead these into confusion and hell. Wow. And this coming from someone who's an idolater who prays to Mary and elevates her to the level of goddess and believes in works righteousness. And the Roman Catholic Church being the greatest gate of damnation of any religion on the planet because it's supposed to be the biggest.

Oh, yeah. I did say it and I believe it. I do believe that the Roman Catholic Church is in the service of the devil. I do because I believe it teaches a completely false gospel.

Now, I'm not just saying that for sensational points here. I believe that and I've always taught that. That's what the Catholic Church teaches. And I will debate. I'll debate people.

They can call me up. We can talk about it if you want. All right. Now, he goes on.

P.S. You know there's a demon whose specialty is sowing discord and confusion? See, you know there's a demon. It's bad grammar. He says, do you know? But no. He says, you know there's a demon whose speciality is sowing discord and confusion?

Because he has a question mark on it. So, why not utter a prayer of binding to relieve your poor soul and intellect of its grip? Wow.

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't you pray to Jesus and ask Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins? Don't go to a priest. Don't go to Mary.

Just go to Jesus Christ and ask Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins. And if you did, would all your sins be forgiven? If you say yes, then you don't need the Catholic church, do you?

If you say no, then Jesus isn't enough, is he? This is simple stuff. Anyway, there you go. There you go.

Okay. I just got an email from my old seminary professor. Actually, he's the guy who kind of kept me in sem.

I was ready to quit at one point, and he's the guy who kept me, and he's a good guy. Anyway, that's another story. So, hey, we have three open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276.

That person either got raptured, had a phone thing, or got tired, or we had a problem. And let's see. Let's get to Alex from Orlando, Florida. Alex, the medicine man, whatever your last name is.

Okay, go ahead. It's right. My last name's right. Your last name was right, W-R-I-G-H-T? Yeah, I got a good one like you. It should be Alex, the wrong one, right.

I think that'd be good. Well, I couldn't expect that coming from you. You couldn't? You should know better.

I lower my standards when I'm talking to you. I was being facetious. Oh, okay. You missed it. I just insulted you. You missed it.

It was a good insult, too. Yeah, no, no. I just ignored it. Okay, that's smart, man. All right, big man.

What do you got? Did I give you enough hate mail? No, no, no. It was Laura just sent me one.

She said it was a really good one. They wished a millstone tied around my neck, which is wishing for my death. So this is the intolerance of people.

Yeah, we wish you to die. And then I'm demonically oppressed. If any Catholic wants to call up, and we can discuss these things, but I just have a question. If Jesus instituted the bread and the wine as his body and blood, then was he violating Levitical law in Leviticus 17.11 when it says you're not to drink the blood of any flesh? I ask Catholics this question all the time, and what they come back with is, it says just animals. Oh, so it's okay to drink human blood. Is that what you're saying the Israelites would believe now? And other things.

There's other stuff. So then you take him to the Latin. You say, let's go talk to your priest and go ask him what it means in the Latin.

In the Latin, yeah, the Vulgate. Actually, I was in the very room that Jerome translated the Bible into Latin in. I've been in that room. Wow.

Over there overseas. And I could boast about a whole bunch of other stuff I've been over there, because it would be boasting. Like, for example, I've been in Qumran Cave 1. Yes, shameful boast.

But, man, I'm so tickled that I got to go in Qumran Cave 1. All right. Okay, question.

Did you clean up your yard yet? You're always boasting. You've got a boasting problem.

I do. I have a boast. I boast in my stupidity. I boast in my inanity. Inanity? Inanity. And then I boast about having gone to Israel and seen stuff by God's great grace.

Oh, man, what a privilege. Hey, Lord, well, maybe I'll be with you in Israel next year. I don't know. Well, next year is February. That's where we're going. No, I'm not going to be there then. I can't raise that money in time. No way. All right.

Well, we're going to try going again another year, like yearly. All right, big man, what do you got, buddy? Yes, so question. So I was dealing with a nominal Buddhist the other day, and he was going to some interesting places, but he told me he had a couple questions. One, he was like, well, you know, your God's in your name, the same God's name, you know, the same God is in different cultures in a different name. So where would you go if someone raises that objection? Say, oh, it's just the same God, but just different names.

Where would you go? I would just go to logic. So is your God a distinct being who's eternally existing as three simultaneous and distinct persons and not one person, as other religions say? So can you explain that, how they can be contradictory and both be true? Okay, okay. And then what did he just say?

Next. Okay, and then he says, then he starts talking about the Tower of Babel. He's like, well, in the Tower of Babel, they mixed up all the language, so then he used that to validate his first point.

No, that doesn't make any sense, because if all the languages were there, corrupted, you've got to understand what they were trying to do was work against God and exalt themselves, so they weren't serving the true and living God, which is why the dispersion of people and languages occurred, so they were not following the true and living God, so that works against them. Okay, all right, yeah. Yeah, it was hard to gauge, and he was kind of like one of those nice guys who was trying to kind of, and his wife was, I was Uber, and then his wife was in the backseat speaking in another language, and I think telling him to be quiet, like no religion, no, and so it was kind of, I was going back and forth, but it was trying to see where he was at, but he wanted me to compromise, and I'm like, I'm not compromising. That's right, you can't. Did you get a good recommendation?

Recommendation for what? You know, on Uber, don't they rate you? Oh, I don't know. I never pay attention to that.

The only bad ones I get is probably when I'm cheering the gospel, to be honest. Like, I hand out tracks all the time, so I'm constantly handing out tracks, but I have one more question. Okay, man. There's the, hold on, I've got a break. We'll get back to you after the break, okay? Hey, folks, Two Open Lines. You want to give me a call?

877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. All right, let's get back on here with Alex from Orlando.

Alex, welcome here on the air. Yes, so to change topics, one other question. I was reading through the Old Testament about using incense in prayers. Now, how do you feel about that now? Because they're kind of associated with, you know, New Age and witchcraft and those things. But what do you feel about that? Yeah, I don't have any problem with it because it's in the Bible. Okay.

Great. But to see how it's used, I'd like to see the exact verses that you're talking about because I think it's in the Psalm. I'm not really sure. Can you do a search for it?

Yeah, I don't remember. It says, may my prayer be counted as incense before you. That's in Psalm 141, Song of Solomon. Let's see, not as frankincense. So, grain offering, frankincense. Now, here's what's interesting. Because they've forsaken me and they have burned incense to other gods. You know, that's worth, I think, an interesting study, actually.

It tore down the altars, beat the ashram, and carved images into powder and chopped down all the incense altars. Interesting. So, are you thinking maybe they stopped doing it?

I don't know because now, you know what, to be honest, sometimes when you remember something, and I remember incense is used in the temple and there's varying things that I understand, so I don't have a problem with that, but now I want to do a research on it, actually. You've got to be kind of curious. Let's see.

Yeah, because of high places. Ooh, look at that. Interesting. I don't know if it actually is authorized for Christian worship, now that I'm looking at it. Okay.

Yeah, something to look into. Well, because it is in the temple. You see, oil and lighting, spices for the anointing, oil for the fragrant incense.

This is offerings for the sanctuary. So, it's there, and there's the altar of incense in Exodus. Moreover, you shall make an altar as a place for burning incense.

You shall make it a vocation of wood. And that's in the tabernacle. Aaron shall burn fragrant incense. So, the question then is, is it okay in the New Testament? You know, in the New Testament economy, because that's for the temple. Yeah, that's right. And then it mentions it in Luke. According to the custom of the priestly office, he was chosen by Lot to enter the temple of the Lord and burn incense. Is that the only time it's mentioned in the New Testament, as in Luke?

No, I'm just going through it. And another one in Luke 1-10, and another one in Luke 1-11, and then Hebrews 9-4, having a golden altar of incense in the Ark of the Covenant altered. Yeah. So, and then Revelation 5-8. See, when he had taken the book, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harping golden bowl full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. Interesting. Oh, but those were the prayers of the saints. Yeah. Yeah.

Interesting. It's a verse Catholics like to use all the time. They like to say that the people who have gone on can hear all their prayers, because there's a bowl of incense, which is prayers.

That means that they can hear them all. That makes no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense at all. So, yeah, interesting.

And the smoke of the incense with the prayers of the saints went before God out of the angel's hand. Yeah, it'd be worth a study to see what God has to say about it. Yeah, okay. Anyway, so there you go. Yeah, I was thinking about it. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you should look into it and write an article about it. That would help.

Yeah. Yeah, I've already done my 18,000 other things I've got to do, which I do. I'm about to send you an eight-page article.

Are you going to have time to read that? Well, usually when people like you send me articles, I make paper airplanes out of them and then throw them out the second story window to see how far they go, the furthest page I read. That's it. You know, cut it down. How do you do that with a PDF?

Well, you print it up, then you throw it out. No. You know, you've got to adapt. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Oh, okay. All right. All right, brother. Well, yeah, I'll catch you later. All right. God bless. Okay. If you want to give me a call, three open lines, 877-207-2276.

Dave from Salt Lake City, welcome. You're on the air. Are you there, Dave? Yeah, I was just wondering if maybe you could... Can you hear me? Yes. Yes, I can. Yes.

So I personally don't celebrate Halloween, and I was wondering if you could discuss your opinion on whether Christians should celebrate Halloween. So when you say should, that tends to be deontological. Should they? But you mean can they? Are they free to? Yes. Free to, yes.

Yes, they are. They're free to. So let me ask you a question. Let's say you and I are missionaries in a foreign country, and there's a pagan temple, literally a pagan temple. Up on the hill we can see, and they sacrifice meat to false gods. And then they sell that sacrificed meat down in the marketplace, and you and I are down there looking for some meat. Can we buy that meat sacrificed to idols and eat it? What would you say? Well, according to what Paul wrote, yes.

Yes, you can. That's how the first Corinthians 10. Now, however, we don't want to do that if it's going to stumble anybody. And so this is a balancing act, because last night I said to my wife, I said, I'm looking forward to seeing the little kids in their little outfits when they come up. I love it.

Little Tinkerbells and horses walk up. I love that stuff. This is fun. They're cute. Now, if they dress up in demonic stuff, that's a problem, I would think. But for the most part, what I see is really cuties.

It's awesome to see them. So they're celebrating it, and it's just a time of joy for them. I don't see any problem with that, because we're not celebrating anything bad.

It's just, hey, you're going door to door to get candy. That's all it is. Okay. Now. And then do you know if you have any articles on Karm about?

Are you there? Yes. Yes, we have stuff on Halloween.

Do you have any articles on Karm? Yes. Any articles on Karm about the origins of Halloween?

Yes, we do. No, the origins of Halloween. Yes. Hallows Eve and stuff that goes in. Yes.

I wrote the article years ago. Let's see. Karm Halloween. Where did Halloween come from? Can a Christian celebrate it?

The answer is yes and no. So there's the origins of it. From All Hallows' Eve, which occurred on October 31st, All Saints' Day, or All Hallows' Day, was the next day, November 1st, before Halloween is the eve of All Saints. November 1st is an interesting day for me.

I almost got murdered on that day. So that's another story a long time ago. Yeah. So at any rate, so yeah, you can celebrate it. As long as you're not celebrating evil, like if you're at your house, wherever you're at, and people knock at your door, little kids come up with candy and you give them candy, you're not participating in celebrating demonic stuff. So let me ask you, do you have a Christmas tree in your house?

Yes. Okay. Well, believe it or not, December 25th is actually a day that was celebrated in pagan festivals in Europe.

And the Catholic Church adopted it to try and convert it into a Christian holiday. So there's another little thing, a lot more discussions. But anyway, okay, buddy? All right. All right, thanks, man. All right, Dave.

Sure. Hey, folks, three open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. I'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Let's see where that music gets going there. And there we go. All right, let's get to William from North Carolina. William, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt Slick, quick question. The virgin birth. Now, I mean, I believe in the virgin birth. But when it occurred, can you hear me now? Yes.

Can you hear me now? Yes. Okay, the virgin birth. I do believe in the virgin birth.

However, when it happened, my question is this. God didn't take a sperm and an egg and create a person. He did it totally through the Holy Spirit. Is that correct?

Correct. Okay, and so he didn't take a part of Mary and then just somehow impregnate her. He just took his Holy Spirit and did it in her womb. Hold on, hold on.

Let's just say this, okay, that he took the egg, that part that was there, and he activated it. And let's just leave it at that. Okay?

Because there has to be human nature, and the virgin birth is used to support the hypostatic union, that Jesus has two distinct natures, divine and human. Okay? All right.

Okay, let me ask you this. If he used the egg in her, how is, I'm trying to connect in my mind how that makes Jesus, I know how it makes Jesus a man, but how does that make him free from sin? Doesn't that egg have sin nature? The theory is that the sin nature is passed down through the Father. That's the theory.

And so there was no biological father, and hence no sin on him. Plus, we do not know what went on when she became pregnant. We don't know what went on in all of that. And so what I like to tell people at this point is don't go too far into it.

Just leave it as it is. We don't know. God doesn't tell us.

Jesus did not have a sinful nature. There's theories about this. And that's it. We just don't know. He didn't reveal it to us.

And that's okay. So is this saying basically, what I'm hearing from you is that it's a federal headship thing that the sin would typically come from, you know, when a baby is created, would come theoretically, federal headship-wise, from the man's lineage. And in the case of Jesus, there was no man's lineage, and therefore there was no sin nature. That's one of the main theories, yes.

But we don't know how accurate it is. That's one of the main theories. All right? That solves it for me. Thank you. Okay. All right. God bless.

All right. Let's get on the air with, let's see, Marcy from Salt Lake City. Hey, Marcy. Welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, thanks, Matt. I just had a quick thought about the incense that you guys were just chatting about. The thing that came to mind was how God was very specific about what incense had to be burned in Exodus.

And I don't know if this relates. It was just something that popped in my mind and I thought would be great to add to your further study is how Aaron's son created a strange fire when they mixed incense of their own and offered it to God and God took their life, right, in Leviticus? I believe so, yeah. So just thinking of incense, is it okay to add? I don't know if that would be the same because he was very specific about the incense that was part of worship and not like we would know or I don't know. Just a thought.

Just a thought. Yeah, it's worth a study. To be honest, I've never studied it.

I never studied that specific thing. So there's types of incense and then there's incense offerings in different cultures. So I think it'd be worth a study.

I wonder, in fact, what I'd like to do is this. For example, I can do this Genesis and then I type in the word incense. And then the first occurrence is 7004. And then what I do is I go into my Hebrew dictionary thing, 7004, type it in, and it occurs 60 times in that particular Hebrew word, 60 times. And so, wow, look at that, interesting.

And a lot of it is in the Pentateuch, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and then nothing in Deuteronomy goes in. It's just interesting to see how God uses worms. I was reading the word perfume. So I combined them. It says oil and perfume. There's no worms there, but I combined my words, sorry.

Proverbs 27, 9, oil and perfume make the heart glad. So yeah, I messed up on that one. So yeah, it's just a nice study.

This will be a leisure study for me. I've got videos I've got to do. Oh, I've got so much stuff I've got to do. And I'm always working. I'm always working, trying to figure things out. And with me, everything is real hard.

What's that? Yeah. I said, well, we appreciate it.

Well, thank you. You should know, there's a guy in ancient Greek culture, mythological, there's a guy named Sisyphus, and he was always pushing a rock uphill. And it would always roll back, and he could never get it all the way. That's what I feel like. I feel like Sisyphus. Some people say you take two steps backwards for one forward. I take seven or eight backwards to go eight or nine forward.

And hopefully, by that time, I'm not too exhausted. But that's how it is. Everything is difficult. Everything I do always has problems.

And I'm working on just shooting a video today. And it was just enough of problems. What? I said if you're going to do it well, you have to do it right. And that takes time.

Yeah. But I've got to be able to do it before I can do it well. And I'm having trouble even getting there. It's like, man, I'm just trying to do audio on something. And the way it goes, I finally get an audio thing working. And then the setup, I don't have an audio mic stand. Now I have to get an audio mic stand. I'm like, oh, man.

I don't want to spend the money on stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. I'm whining. Whining's OK. Because the Bible says take a little wine for your stomach. So that's OK.

I'll whine a little bit. Love it. Well, that's just more food for thought. That's right.

More food for thought. Thank you. OK. You're welcome. God bless.

All right. That was Marcy from Salt Lake City. Now let's get on the air with Lafoon from Rockville, Virginia. Welcome. You're on the air. Sir, could you please tell me as you look at Psalm 34.17.

34.17. Yes. You're right. Lord, how long wilt thou look on, rescue my soul, which is my soul from their destructions. Now these next three words, mine only one. That is in my Scofield Bible that I use, New Scofield.

That is interpreted as darling. My only one. OK. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

We're a little confused here. Because you said Psalm 34.17. The notes say Psalm 22.20, which I think you're quoting deliver my soul from the sword. Well, that is another. There's another psalm that has that in there. Mine only one. Which psalm are you looking at?

The reason that I'm asking you that is, to me, mine only one is darling. And that would refer to the Lord Jesus Christ. OK. I don't know what verse you're looking at. So I'm not sure. I am looking at Psalm 35.17. 35.17.

17. But, Lord, how long will you look on rescue my soul from the ravages, my only life from the lions. OK. And then in 22, verse 20. Deliver my soul from the sword. Deliver my soul from the sword. My only one from the power of the dog. My only one means darling. And to me, the Lord has taught me to call him darling when I want to, when I'm in prayer.

I wouldn't. But deliver my soul from the sword. The NASB says my only life. And it asserts the word life. My only life from the power of the dog. And so the ESV, deliver my soul from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dog. And King James, my darling from the power of the dog. King James, my precious life from the power of the dog.

My life, RSV, LEB, my only life. Yeah. So it looks like that's what it is.

And, in fact, the Septuagint, that's why they did it that way. Yep. Because it says tzuken, which is life.

Or the spirit. So life. Yeah. So it's life.

The Jews understood it and out of the Septuagint. So deliver my only life from the power of the dog. Okay. But could, does my only one, they interpret it as darling.

And I wouldn't call anyone darling unless they were the focus, the highest point in my life. Okay. But that's not really what it says.

So I wouldn't go with that. No. Hold on. So what we're going to do is get right back after these messages.

Three open lines. 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

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It really does. All right. Let's get back on with Pearl, actually.

Welcome. You're on the air. Well, sir, I just wondered what your designation would be. Is that wrong to refer to the Lord God, Jesus Christ, as my darling? Well, as a man, I have a problem with that. So, I wouldn't go to any of my friends and go, hey, darling.

I'd get a punch in the head. So, as a man, I'm just not comfortable with that. And so, I can't say it. Well, as a man, are you comfortable with the church being referred to as a female?

The bride of Christ, because it's a metaphor. Right. I don't have a problem with it.

Yeah. But I'm like, I don't call God darling. I call him my Lord. Well, I call him the uncreated one, the greatest of all. I don't mean that I just designate him as my darling. But he has taught me, taught me through the Holy Spirit alone with him, to call him my darling. Well, that's between you and God. I don't see a thing in Scripture that says you can't say that, because it just depends on how you intend it. And I think that, you know, to say he's the uncreated one, these are great titles for him, because the Bible talks about him like that. So, those are good, too. The uncreated one, the majestic king.

You know, I could say that in prayer, you know, oh, my majestic king, my Lord who is from forever. Those are beautiful terms. So, yeah. Well, I just, is that wrong? I noticed that it's designated in the only one.

Then they give the designation as darling. Well, that word is only found in, I think it's the King James. And generally speaking, I recommend people not use the King James.

Now, a lot of people just spit their coffee in the air. But the reason I say that is because even though it's a nice Bible and it sounds cool, we don't talk like that now, and it has some anachronisms and it has some, let's just say, some phraseology that's not as well translated as some of the modern translations. So, just stuff like that. But, you know, if people use it, that's okay. That's all right.

You know, if someone's preaching under the King James at a church, I'm not going to complain. But I don't prefer to use it. Okay? Okay.

You don't endorse it and you don't negate it. Right. Nah.

Nah. I just use the one that Paul used, the New American Standard Bible, 1995. That's what I use. Oh, I see. Well, I've just always studied from the King James and thou and thee.

That doesn't bother me at all. Well, the first time I used, I quoted the King James when I was out evangelizing, and I quoted a verse with thee and thou in it. And I remember the guy looking at me and being confused, saying, what? What are you saying, thee, thou stuff?

And immediately I decided right there within a second to never use it again because it stood in the way of my evangelism. This is Southern California. Okay?

The beach community, things like that. So, you just don't talk like that. And I didn't want anything to stumble. So, that was the moment I said, okay, I'm done.

And I went to a more modern translation and studied from there. Okay? And also, Charlie Spine, and I agree. I would not recommend using the Schofield study notes.

Let's just say they're a little bit too dispensational, primo and all that kind of stuff. All right? But some notes in there are good, but they have better stuff. I'd recommend the Geneva study Bible. That's what I'd recommend. Geneva? Geneva study Bible?

Yes. You'll get a lot more deep theology in there too. All right. Thank you, sir. The Lord Jesus bless you in every conceivable way and in every inconceivable way.

I like both of those. Thanks a lot, Pearl. God bless. I love you. Bye-bye.

Okay, bye. She's always a sweet person to call. I like that.

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Are you there? Yeah. Yeah, Martin. Hey, thanks, Matt. Sure.

Interesting way to call. Thanks for your ministering, your work, and I hope you guys can get some spirit moves, folks, to make some donations to listen to you. Yeah, we definitely recommend it. Let's just say, yes, that's a good idea. Okay.

Right. So you had a caller earlier about the virgin birth, and you made some great responses there. It just kind of started a question, how you viewed, you know, your response kind of triggered something in me, and I think I know the answer, and how do you view the lineage that Jesus has, you know, back to, you know, when they trace a lineage, but Jesus had no father, really. I think I know the answer, but I'm not going to get your take. Yeah, there's two genealogies of Jesus, and one of them is through Mary, one of them is through Joseph, and believe it or not, Jeconiah is in the lineage of Joseph, and there's a curse on Jeconiah's descendants that none of them will ever be able to turn the throne.

And so it looks like that's a catch. Hey, you know, the devil's going to say, look, you can't, you know, the Messiah can't come from Joseph lying, but it did. And so it was not a biological descendancy, but a legal descendancy, because Joseph, when he said his name is Jesus, was pronouncing adoption and proclamation and acceptance in his family.

The biological line came through Mary, who also is traced back through Abraham and stuff. Okay? Right, yeah, perfect, yeah, thank you so, yeah, good for clarifying that.

I was just hoping that folks didn't hear that and say, well, you know, Joseph didn't have a biological attachment, but he had the legal aspect of that, and back, clearly, in the Mosaic covenant, legal was the covenant. Right. That's right.

That's what it is. Let's see, I wrote an article on this years ago, and I'm trying to spell genealogies, and I'll tell you, that's a hard word to spell, but I found it. Why are two different genealogies for Jesus?

Matthew 1 and Luke 3, and I go through, and I show where they split out of David, I believe it is, and yes, from Nathan and Solomon, David, the father of Joseph, yeah, so there it is, and you can check it out, and one's the legal line, and one's the biological line, so there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect, thanks for clarifying that, Matt. Okay, all right. Got anything else? Okay, bunch of political stuff, but we don't have time, we just don't have time. Well, we got nobody waiting right now, so what do you want to talk about politically? Let's see what you got. I'm curious. I'm just, I kind of amused a little bit of the White House press secretary defending the Joe Biden gas drops, and then all of a sudden, defending Joe Biden has nothing to do with the price hikes, you know what I mean? You can't have it both ways, right? With what?

Oh, price hikes. Well, by any chance, did you see Tucker last night with the interview he did on Bob Alinsky? I did see a replay of that on Fox earlier, but I don't think, I don't think I watched it last night. I saw the Bob Alinsky. Yeah, you need to watch it. You need to watch it, and if what he says is true, then it's absolute testimony proof that the Biden family is corrupt, absolute corrupt, absolutely, along with the FBI, the corrupt at the higher levels, and the news media that refuses to cover and look into it and dig into it also is a demonstration of their corruption as well. So we have major levels of corruption.

What's that? No, I totally agree. They're quelling, they're quashing something that's factually true, and they have the facts and the details, and they're quashing it, they're just keeping it silent. Whereas they really don't apply to justice. This is the technique of communism, right? This is communist techniques. And so there's communist tactics to suppress counter information. And what we have is, I believe our country is lost.

I do. I believe, that's my opinion, it's depressing. I believe our country won't recover unless God does something. I believe that because the schools are so corrupted, because they're producing socialist communist thinking people, because the higher echelons of the government are corrupt, because the morality of our country is just in the toilet.

I don't believe that country, we can survive. And that's about my opinion. Yeah.

No, I agree. I think I debate with atheists often, and it comes down to morality, and I ask where they get their morality from, how do they face that. It spirals into some anger on their side, because they can't admit that white is white and black is black. Morals are something that you must have inherent within, and they say it's socially ingrained. It was developed socially throughout time, and I point to many examples where, no, that's not the case. If it was, then we'd have common morals all the way throughout socially, and your choice would have to match everybody else's choice, and it doesn't. You're making a different choice morally. Where do you get that from?

How did you base that? It's hard for them to dig out where they're going to base it. No, they have... Me, I'm just a theologian, but I could out-debate these political leaders on the far left, on various issues, on morality, on truth, on information, on their own levels of corruption. And that's just to tell you how easy it would be, because they're that guilty and incompetent.

But the news media is supporting them and helping them in their deception and the downfall of our country. And so we need to get our schools back, and here's something else that needs to happen. The Christian churches need to really start preaching and teaching about what it means to pick up the cross and convert the world and to be disciple makers, not just people who hide in Sunday morning schools, Sunday morning churches.

That's a concern I've got. And so if we don't step up, our country's gone. That's not to say it can't turn around if Christians get on their knees and pray.

God could certainly raise up people to do things. But if it doesn't happen, our country's lost. That's what I believe. Yeah, and I think it starts with a good, strong family unit, and the left is kind of destroying that. Oh yeah, the left is, in my opinion, evil in the service of the devil.

So far left. And I do not understand how anybody can be a Christian and also a Democrat once they understand what the Democrat Party stands for. It stands for the KKK, slavery, Jim Crow laws, racism, socialism, communism. I don't understand how anybody can hold that, and if they understand what they should teach and also be a Christian. I would doubt their salvation if they say, oh no, I'm for it. I'm for the Democratic Party, even though they're pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, pro-communist, pro-censorship, pro-KKK. That's what the history of the Democratic Party is. I'd say, what?

How could you be a Christian and support this stuff? That's like anything else. Right.

Oh, there's the music. We're out of time. All right, man. We're out of time, buddy. All right, God bless. Yeah, that's right, folks.

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