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September 27, 2022 4:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Did Jesus lose something by dying on the cross---2- Did the three days in the grave pay for our sins---3- Matt talks about why Joyce Meyer is a false teacher.--4- Are elders the only ones who can teach- Can a woman preach if she's not called an elder---5- How do you deal with the Catholic argument that the apostacy mentioned in 2 Thessalonians was the Protestant Reformation-

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network Matt slick. Why is the founder and president of the Christian apologetics research what is found online@con.org you have questions about Bible doctrines is a Matt Slick Live branches called in responding to your questions at 877207276 pairs. Matt slick will and your list match would live if you want to give me a call real fiber lines wide open going to do is dial 877-207-2276 today is too short Tuesday and that whatever guys, Charlie is developing T-shirts and another person. Laura is doing design on these T-shirts and their people work with a sick arm to be having some T-shirts that me going there pretty soon and I'm to be going with plenty working on some new intros for the radio show. People say that they enjoy them what we had before and hope you will enjoy the with them on again and let's see what else have nobody waiting right now called to watch the show.

Watch me sitting here all you do is go to the Carmel.org website CAR room.org and on the homepage and right hand side you will see the link to link big box and things like that. You can check it out. In order to watch me sit here in the office know that's not what so great, but what is great is the people that are in the chat area. Friendships have been made because people are regulars in the command yes there are some obstreperous twits that sometimes come in and act like children who want to go in and they don't like what I say in doing so, they trained the juvenile puerile mature into the contrary, to being obsequious so if all that sounds good because I was at the deli and the Navy entertained. I don't know you give me a call 877-207-2276 Jeff says he's a twit and you know like I should. That reminds me, that reminds me, maybe I will do the little bit of entertainment value is to read through what we have one car called this lectionary and there's a thing to do, that losing find this is where is this lectionary and gets up terms that come up with over the years and we call this lectionary so maybe I'll go through some the definitions of you got there. Yeah.

And so here's some the stuff okay to glorify you to use big words and citations of various philosophical views in rapid succession for long. In lieu of a direct answer so as to confuse the listers and make things unclear as to glorify you know when I listen to that, the politicians talk and here's the thing. I would love to question some of the politicians on certain issues because I would let them get away with what they get with the glorify thanks you yes him a question. They enter something else and then the questioner goes on to something else. I did not know me, I'd say what you can do about ABC in the given answer that doesn't answer. It's open as you know to question what you can do about ABC I the same question over and over. I tell him I'm asking the same question until you give me an answer for everything to Heather detailed of the five I really believe I do. I don't think we should give them quarter. So what you can now to some, the practice of avoiding serious confrontation in order to substantiate and the surgeon usually done by attacking the person or change the topic so actually there's a cell mightily because there's this thing is popped up on my screen my computer where people having discussions and Muslims are going in and talking about how great the Quran is what I did was I jumped right in." It's her authority to access if there's any discrepancy in the Quran within the Quran is not from and then I showed them answer 86 527 were a man's seed is produced out of his chest of his chest. According to the Quran. I go when an SAC look according the Quran.

If there's a discrepancy it's not true from Allah. There's a discrepancy therefore is not true in the first thing the guy did was attacked the Bible. It was the same thing. It was checking out is not face initially called Uniface an issue. I raise this issue up and you just avoiding anyone to attack. I said come on it way, here's another one denied elation to deny unit annihilation. A state of willing ignorance in the face of truth, not considering another view in an attempt to destroy the other person's view. Also the constant ignoring of something that doesn't agree with your opinion, it will all go away densification. The practice of failing to think clearly due to increased cerebral confusion while attempting to put down what you really don't understand densification diaper any and every now and then a person is overly childish in behavior and action when confronted with truth and logic and throws crud at you instead of dealing with issues like an adult and we have things like Dodge vacation and to repeat the repeated practice of using useless statements and attempt to avoid chain challenge made against the surgeon. Here's an interesting word. This is made up were of course for stipulating that stipulated to speak quickly while explaining a position and saying nothing for stipulating.

But this actually some interesting words to finish straight is to furnish with Windows and too fast and eight is to fascination as the involuntary inclination to walk quickly and so I love those words. I like links into lakes and obfuscate cogitate muscular weight without flabbergast flabbergast really irritate to say something that flabbergast of it will also a lot of fun modifying Arisa five to distort the truth so much becomes a false teaching.

Anyway, will do one more load of the callers to re-amplify the practice of speaking about nothing. Switching topics and not focusing in order to sound confident while release not saying anything. So these are all part of this lectionary go to carbureted and read him a lot of whole bunch of believer knowledge on how many lightbulb jokes like how many atheists does it take to change a lightbulb zero. They like the darkness and the Calvinists does it take to change a lightbulb.

None was predestined to burn the burned out.

How many Catholic cetaceans lightbulb we don't know.

I got asked Mary to do it it it's always up in my favorite though is how many surrealist painters that surrealism is when you take something and you painted three do you make it so it's not really real anymore, but has resemblance of actualities, surrealism, and peace.

How many surrealist painters as a take to change a lightbulb of fish. I love that one. All right, we have frequent lines if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276.

Let's get to Colton from Idaho.

A cold you're on the snowman that's going. We got what so I was recently doing vandalism and I got a question that kind of company. Help me out. So the question was no more than an fell out of pocket. He asked me that.

So if Jesus came down lived a perfect life and died and then three days later later rose from the dead. What exactly did he lose.

I told him you know he limited himself quickly ask him presuming what he lose what's left when you mean by that is if you haven't clarified what he means by something you shouldn't respond.

Don't assume I don't assume you lost something that means little. What does he mean by lose something and get it first thing I do, I say, weaving lose that all allowing us to always. That's right always defined term psychic telling people this is gonna take a couple billion years for me to tell people in, and they learned always define your terms. Ask people to define what they mean by something.

Don't assume you understand what they're saying. You may hear me on the radio. So the last question.

You might say what we mean by such a such because I want clarification that'll go ahead. From time to the moment you know that the big the big question posed anyway so of all that and that we've committed that three days took care of that, of all our eternity. No, something I just did not answer my question is do it during all apologetic okay and it's a wrong question because it demonstrates a person doesn't understand the issues of the atoning sacrifice is not three days in the grave that paid for anything.

It was the death of Christ on the cross. That's the issue so and so it's important like we're sinister. I said the three days I understood correctly help pay for this. And no, it's not true. Now there are some false teachers within Christianity teach that when Jesus before his death and resurrection went to Hades suffered there and finish to Tomah there that is damnable heresy and all who teach that can not be considered Christians like Joyce Meyer who teaches it, Kenneth Copeland teaches. We cannot call them Christians is a serious stuff so okay going to keep going or not. The other thing I was saying trying to either illusion to relocate to get. I think a lot of disrespect a few seconds you outright if they gathered there's losing you. You said about your letter okay you yet.

I got and Bennett come across the bed and paid so likable. It was just on the cross and what her dying and thank God for three days and it was because of the resurrection to prove that he has power over death. Just as Noah was in the belly of the fish for three days so the sun felt belly of the earth for three days. After three days you can't say it was just a lucky thing he was out for couple of hours then resuscitated. He was dead and three days is about the limit before the body starts decaying, really bad. And so in Psalm 16 knowledge is holy one to undergo decay is prophetic and so that's that's that reason why the three days okay well I appreciate it.

Sure, I currently like what the dinner but a real help sure what I would recommend you do if you get into apologetics at all is first thing is learn your theology.

You need to know what you need to be able to articulate from memory and understand how the concepts relate.

We need to know justification imputation propitiation election predestination resurrection. You need to learn these am able to articulate what they are and how they are interrelated need to understand the statement that Jesus fulfilled covenant requirements at his baptism. These are some of the things Colton got blasť folks five open line. Call 877-2076 max Y call 770776 charismatic sling back to show all 72072276 and you know I imagine something very serious here, and maybe a lot of you were a little bit shocked to hear that I was condemning Joyce Meyer and I flat-out publicly do. She is not a qualified preacher, teacher of the word, explain why. Write them and explain why some to try something here. I've got some recordings to thicken work is not to read them together we got so many do is I try and play these over the radio and was doing think of it in a play this out check this out this is word she said Jesus stopped being the son of God right now that is heresy to say he was no longer the son of God.

This is an example of her inability to understand basic Christian theology now to say that she is deceased he stopped being the son of God is to say that he was no longer God the son because that's the term means. In John 518 John the apostle makes a comment that he was calling God his own father, making himself equal to God. That's what this phrase means when it comes to Christ, so she is attacking his deity. She is making some incredibly bad statements are not your check this one out.

Jesus was the first person to be born again to be born again is something that we need to go through in order to become children of God. We are born again because were sinners, so now she has stated that Jesus stop being the son of God and that Jesus was the first one born again, these are called heresies.

All right, heresies now here, let me just play another one and then it is a medic that don't have audio for this course of her book so here the snow this about God calling creation so this is an example of incredibly bad logic and exegesis to say that to be called God's because what you said I was listening to us undertakes my one management like this. This kind of gets the point across. He said you know, why do people have such a fit about God calling his creation, his creation, his man, not a soul man but his creation but is meant little gods receipt you can understand something when people don't stick with the word of God. They generally judge the word and they exalt themselves now and Joyce Meyer were to repent of her false teachings. Okay, I've not heard of her repenting of her false teachings and new people. I show this to people they are stymied to let me ask you guys a question are you sinners are you a sinner. I'm a sinner I'm saved and yet I'm still a sinner still struggles my soon, it doesn't mean it's okay to send. But the fact is that this recognition is, however, check this out and whittle with paper heresy to say that she's not a sinners self-deception because the standard of righteousness is God himself, and in the person of Christ. It's Jesus to say it would when anyone comes to me and says they don't send any more. I see so you keep the law of God perfectly right now. So yes, that's what it means to be a sinner and I 60. Jesus is the standard of keeping the law right that's right. Are you keeping the law the same level as Jesus, I've had a few say yes you can see the arrogance Gazette is obviously sinful, but this is what she saying that she says. The Bible says I'm righteous, I can't be righteous and be a sinner the same time.

Yes, you can. Righteousness is an imputation to impute means to count to another's account. Legally we have the sin debt that we have imputed to Christ and he took it away at the cross, he canceled our sin debt at the cross.

Colossians 214, but we are declared righteous by faith with the righteousness of God is reckoned to us by faith, flipping 39 Romans 51. This occurs to those of us who still have sin. Paul the apostle in Romans 718 through 25 talks about the struggle that he had as a man, the things he did not want to do. He did in the things he did not he wanted to do.

He did not and he said who will deliver me from this body of death. The phrase body of death is really interesting because what is talking about here is one of the means by which the Romans would execute people's crucifixion. The heading running through the sword or spear or putting you in a jail cell with a corpse and chaining the corpse to you and then you and that courts stay in the gel so until the decay of the corpse moved upon her body and it killed who will deliver me from this body of death. This is what Paul is talking about his talk about himself. Get Joyce Meyer to his sanity while that's so impressive here. Listen to this heresy. He is 770776 charismatic play. The last one I did from a Joyce Meyer because the commercial came on, and so only to hear this in a public talk about this a little bit.

It's worth, it was getting into. So here we go. This is the host of hell literally on Jesus and were laughing was supposed to work. Not sure what's going on work very go okay here we go here's the thing. Where does she get off saying this she get this. There's nothing in Scripture that says this and yet she teaches it as though it's the truth.

So she supposedly is getting revelation knowledge from God himself telling us informing us what actually went on in hell that Jesus was there, being tortured by the demonic forces. This is blasphemy and the anger that I have in my heart for this kind of filth is not is not becoming as someone who who wants to speak politely on the radio because I can't find the words to describe what I really want to say about this blasphemous stuff because it's what it is I cannot and will not call her Christian not for the heresies, and to read you in the loop on play one more minute read you something the callers there we go and didn't quite work. Okay, let's try one more time spent get this to work right. Her now she's getting revelation knowledge from God. Is this how she explains these heresies news.

Okay, when we do now is just read to you a couple of things and will read you see you merge couple things she has said in her book the most important decision you'll ever make. By Joyce Meyer second printing May 1993, page 35. Quote he became our sacrifice and died on the cross did not stay dead. He was in the grave three days during that time he entered hell were you and I deserve to go because of our sin, he paid the price. There," I see the problem with this is that no Jesus paid the price of our redemption on the cross. Colossians 214 says he canceled the certificate of death on the cross Jesus on the cross is finished on 1930, but no she says she went to hell and finished it there. She's denying the atoning sacrifice of Christ. She denies the atoning sacrifice of Christ to the sufficiency on the cross.

She denies it now.

She said in the same book page 36 first whenever I was in page 35 is the next verse next page. Jesus paid on the cross and went to hell in my place. Then, as God had promised on the third day Jesus rose from the dead. The scene in the spirit realm. When something like this. God rose up from his throne and said to the demon powers tormenting the sinless son of God let him go, stopped her for second, nothing in Scripture says this she speaking blasphemy continue on in the resurrection power of Almighty God with you. Helen filled Jesus on earth is grave were they had buried it was filled with light and the power of God filled his body. He was resurrected the day the first one-man all right, so that's what she says. Page 36 and then on page 37. Listen to this blasphemy.

Quote his spirit went to hell because that is where we deserve to go there is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth" she is now condemned all people to hell who don't believe the false teaching that she is uttering that Jesus finished the atonement of folks is a false teacher, you cannot call her Christian okay that's Joyce Meyer that's what she has said now if she's come to the place where she is repented, I'd love to see documentation of that repentance and praise God that that that's the case with someone's got to speak out and speak the truth, I'm glad to have an interview with her and ask her doctrinal questions.

In fact we actually try to contact her ministry and said, would you be willing to answer some questions on theology. Let's just say that that wasn't received positively was politely rejected.

All right, let's get on the phones with Ray from North Carolina really welcome on here hello yes you are on the article had you here on the euro on the air on I'm doing all I know that love cannot call you will all you know to let that right. Ryan global it would likely hurt in the criminal law. If you would know you think so, Carl and here's something else you something to think to think about our right men. The men of God to read you something to Titus okay since Titus chapter 1 and this is important.

He says in verse five I left you in Crete set elders in place.

If any man is above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe not accused of dissipation or rebellion.

The overseer must be above reproach, etc. not addicted to wine not done it hospitable, loving what is good and sensible, just soft holding fast to the faithful word and useful to be able to exhort in sound doctrine and refute those who contradict as Titus 19 here's a question.

Since the elders was the amendment are supposed to be the one to step in and do this. Why is it the men around here don't step up and be man and act like godly Christian and tell her this is wrong, you should be stopping this. But what's wrong with the men around her that you don't step up and correct your heresy. While the failures with these men as well. We know that all you women know we talked about and not the market can greatly block the light of the that this does cause a lot of unhappiness how this use that word. You know you only you made 100. But we all have got Bilal out for a walk in the morning reading the word that he admitted they were thought and they don't reach out both have the boat back will 70 a lot of experience there tomorrow Mark Moxley. Although you are with you. I could not met, you got the woman not yes I have tried as hard as this is harder than really get a whale on 2 pound test fishing line will in 15 minutes and there's a break.

You gotta go, brother.

Okay, let's try calling a folks, we have two open lines give me a call 87720776 of the rent that mats like why call 77077.

Here's Matt's way back to the segment of the show on the air with de jure mobile welcome here. They met in regard to women preaching pretty talk about it now. I just let my because the going left women preach one thing after we are talking think we women preaching, which it called little birthday being elder and increasing authoritative for me that there can you collect that our all elder. The only people that are allowed word. No other form.

Paul says I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority.

Remember to remain silent for Adam was first created in first Timothy 517 it says that the elders are to receive a double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching so preacher is here is the very least, also an elder now.

So when a man gets up like him to be preaching a couple weeks I take it very seriously and I will preach at this church in Provo church in a church on the hill thickness are suggested in the health name of the church there. Provo, Utah on the first Sunday of October, but indirect. Come on out and takes a hike, so when I preach. I take it very seriously because I'm getting in the pulpits getting in the place where the preaching of the word of God is the word of God when I'm down there sitting waiting and I'm repenting and I'm confessing that while they're singing because I want to get up in there and and do this job so I take it seriously and so long since I don't like preaching because I got to go through this whole process on the other hand, I love preaching because of the preaching okay woman gets up there she is in by the fact of preaching.

She is in a place of spiritual authority over the people in the church and men included, because it's a sermon, an authoritative proclamation of the word an authoritative official gathering of the body Christ so for the pastor to say small P preaching on Sunday is ludicrous. It is ridiculous and I could I and if he's going to speak like that and think like that. If I were interviewing him you don't think like attending your church. Let's talk about this and he said that I'd say when you know what right then and there and for telling flat out. I cannot attend this church because I cannot trust you to represent the word of God properly and I'm going to let people know that you're not a trustworthy exegete of Scripture, and that people should avoid you because you are not standing up for the truth and you're resting the Scriptures apart from what the truth of God says now I want nothing to do with with this church. That's it that I continue to augment all say stuff like that because I think men need to hear it.

Is this man became the crap that's been taught so right. Anyway, so he's got. I guess my thing is I think very seriously pulpits a very serious thing and he's he's wrong for what he said as you represent okay yeah that I'm realized it: I think you're right that a more liberal dollars and not go down that direction. I might or might help though I might word the final authority. Paul makes it abundantly clear that many women have differing role, equal, and that they have different roles and here's the roles. If you completely deconstruct the white way that God like mine met and wanted to relate work out plan though.

I'm glad that I'm leaving because I thought I would almost contributing actively by being you are in fact if you go to Carmen you look at women in ministry and then you go down you'll find a track document that you can print up both sides enough by 11 and you can print out the hundred of them and pass them out of the church on the way and at the I've done this kind of study accident for the Mormon churches and on this accident for the Christian churches I've been with one Christian church is passing out literature here in Meridian, Idaho, and I called them up and I specifically asked if he could talk about the issue with their women elders, they said yes will meet then later they went back on their word and I went there nicety just went back in your word and sitting on on this go to the body Christ all your threatening us.

It was it was it was dumbfounded that he broke the word and then I said, not biblically ethical. The body Christ of God to you. I'm good then if they can serve as a threat and so is that of saying, look, we understand what you're trying to do. Biblically, let's sit down and talk as they should have done and so I went out the next week.

Whatever it was I fast pass out literature for the church call the cops on Christmas from and then plow you and then on the way home I stopped by another church. This is the truth.

I stop by another church and was close to my house and I'd contacted them about women pastors and elders.

I didn't hear anything back.

I emailed I went in and was in the church is happy to get there right as a service was ending and talking some people would talk to the pastor complement elders literally. I was surrounded I was up against the wall and hostile congregation members were there as the pastor is is not yelling at me, but he is angry. What I'm saying and people are surrounding me and I felt threatened and I looked at the exit when I'm thinking how I get outta here and I was taking martial arts at the time Krav Maga Israeli style of martial arts and thinking why do what why do and finally he says get out get out. I get to go outside the church outside and this guy starts yelling at me the pastors out there so you need to leave you to leave. This is ridiculous. I start backing up okay. I backing up and in the Krav Maga as we move backwards with her hands up, had quite done that yet, but is not an aggressive position assist or handwrite like fingers are exposed like you know just one problem is I'm leaving and so I I'm I'm walking out this guy comes up and starts yelling at me and then the that he said something and he came at me literally, the kind of of of the movement where it's a threat you how man can move this matter man you get on you right forward. You know, that is. And he did that. I put my hands up and I'm like 10 feet away from him and he yelled out he shoved me he light right there. The pastor was outside, turned around and yelled out, did you shove him the congregation we were now staring at me. This is serious and I'm like I can get ambushed right you get beat up by budget Christians. So I yelled back.

I said no he lied.

I said he lied you to call an online look at the cops on you but cannot hear this is insane. This is Christian churches at Mormon churches exit out it was Mormonism Christian.com I had eggs thrown at me. I've had I been assaulted. I been threatened with arrest only you don't mess about people you and I think that's true. I think that about all right, man.

I appreciated that helped out a lot yet print up the thing a ticket to the congregation pass it out on the sidewalk you have. It's legal. You can block pedestrian traffic.

You can block the nuclear traffic but you can pass out literature to the cars owing into the church going out of the church print of the thing open the pastors and elders and you can say here you go, and it will cause a ruckus.that's the thing.

Me, that's a guy thing I would do this is me know if you're smarter than me.

Maybe you won't affect our RMS.

God bless. Okay Yep. Hey Mark from New York you're welcome you on your body. I met Michael sure got out calling my question is that we know Christian federal met with a false prophet and while we definitely look at what you Scripture and one thing that you gone against churches thing that that the church is fallen away from Fort and we noted that the Nightingale for a people prevail, my question is how do we become across our our Catholic friend who try to use the same argument toward Martin Luther when they say that Martin Luther said that there's been a falling away in the one true church.

They say the Catholic Church and tried to start up a new Protestant church is to be an apostasy. Did you read second Thessalonians chapter 2 go through with apostasy will occur, but is concomitant with the arrival of the antichrist.

There can be heresies are creeping into the church like a red from Joyce Meyer and there's others.

I can read something the other deposit confessions teacher to know God is another planet in some other planet out there.

It's insanity so when Catholics are saying it would do the same thing as Joseph Smith said how so writing new scriptures. Of course not, were not running the Scriptures when I sing God Other planet lesson is a goddess mother but you guys pray to Mary and we don't simply show me show me from Scripture where it is, exactly, is that were doing always say to show me that in Scripture show me in Scripture always do that and you can feel their problems not know what that real quick with that. It now. They don't rely solely on Scripture ago. Don't go try to go to other things that would do the honorable that they would be. They are very well first thing in historical theology, all because they depend on looking at tradition, and things like that but I I've only found at the Scripture is that felt okay the argument that goes before the all document out. Just say this is not to look to say you can argue muscle Scripture. If you want, but I'm just asking you since we both agreed. The Scriptures are inspired. That's our common ground so can you show me the Scriptures. That's all I'll do is not.

I don't accept your sacred tradition. I accept Scripture and only the Scriptures are said to be inspired.

Could you please then show me in Scripture.

If you can't show me in Scripture I'm not interested in having a dialogue with you. That's right, you gotta do, show me in Scripture will reasonably don't care. Show me in Scripture always go to the word of God always.

Don't let him. But like the devil take your eyes off of Scripture. From a prophet or a prophetess or tradition, or something else okay thank you so much that you're welcome so much buddy arrived and God blessed. All right, let's even get on the yearly for airline. It will be lost and see time here so Tom from North Carolina. The guard appeared surprised by time you asked the question will be off the air so much a call back tomorrow if you don't mind to hear from you leaves a gentleman briefly. The church is under attack from outside as well as inside.

You must know your doctrines and men you need to learn you need to stand upon the truth of God's word and you need to politely and authoritatively stand on that word, and the truth in your groups and leave Christian men in the Christian church folks. May the Lord bless you by his grace will back on your tomorrow hopefully will talk you then another program powered by the Truth Network


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