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July 15, 2022 5:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Matt discusses the NAR and its alleged connections to quantum physics.--2- Can you explain Matthew 24-22---3- How do you deal with the Catholic argument that the church fathers believed in transubstantiation-

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Look around 200 new: 772072276. Today's nice Thursday and I teach Bible study tonight. So going to the book of James under will be continuing on through chapter 1 of the interesting book of James is a lot of interesting stuff in it and I'm enjoying it will do a study for the book of Hebrews. Sometimes it is so rich and so full of valuable information that a lot of people don't understand that that's there. So that's one idea, and of the Bible study group that I teach comes over the house and I can do is know for years are just so a while back I taught on the doctrine of the Trinity and we were discussing it last week and I did a five week series on the Trinity. They said he loved it and sort talk about it. They want me to do it again and we thought after the book of James do it again and they said that was so much useful information so much stuff.

It never even heard of before. As relates to the doctrine of the Trinity and how utterly important it is now course I gave him a lot of information and I didn't do it like a firehose approach but point by point work through it so maybe I could do something like a workable lesson plan and people could then go to the web and see the page. The lesson plan and fill in blanks and teaching through things we want people to understand the doctrine of the Trinity. Now when people say they understand the doctrine of the Trinity. They think it's really simple and it is but there's so much in it.

There's so much truth in the in the book is to be in the doctrine that people don't realize how wonderful it is and so you will be doing that again.

Also, of all things to study. I have been studying quantum physics. Now it may sound like a huge undertaking, but more and more it's making sense of what it is that they're saying about quantum physics of messing understand it all the same. Why get it skewed meter Jan and the reason I'm studying it is because of some things that are going on in the new apostolic Reformation and so let's see the physics of heaven read over done a few times to read a little bit of quotes from the book the physics of heaven.

Don't talk about before I do that I will talk about quantum physics a little bit and why I studying it now. As you may know, Bill says, do a study in the attributes of God and have the good will I get to me like that could do to anyway so so quantum physics look at not just based on what you studying therefore was a good Bible study for what's gonna do with a Christian show will get this. There are some very interesting things and so to quantum physics will explain something to make it really simple that that in quantum physics is called the particle wave duality and that all things all particles exhibit both characteristics and that everything is a probability that there is no actuality but probability describes what is what must be what can be things like this and then when you measure when you look. That's when the probability becomes in actuality so, what's the probability of an electron being in a particular place in orbit they can calculate it as a there's a probability of this but when you measure it. That's when it's actualized in the manner MAPI writing where it's located and gets and would call the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and things like this. There is a school of thought inside of quantum physics called the Copenhagen view in the Copenhagen view it was dominant for a while is kind of fallen out of favor lately because of what it is stating and what it stating is that that you need an observer to collapse probability to actuality so that you have epic conscious observer that there are things that have probable probable medical characteristics related to them. But in order for them to collapse into actuality. Let's say you have to have an observer and observer has to be conscious and so they have machines that are there that measure something it does not affect what they're doing or the results unless someone's watching this kind of thing and it's bizarre right so the implication is that there's a consciousness that's needed for things to become real note, that's it simplified version of stuff. And why is that important because in Hinduism and in some forms of Buddhism and things like this. There are ideas that go around that there is a frequency. There are waves there are energies that we can get in tune with and by getting into with them. We can, so to speak, create reality, quantum mysticism is a study or a position that's being held been developed based on the idea of of the Copenhagen interpretation of the necessity of consciousness to in the act of observing actualized as a potential work or something might be.

Could be how it might be could never be known, adults observer, but the observation actually causes it to be and become a reality.

That's the third enigma, among other things inside a flood quantum physics and so quantum mysticism is the idea that there is a consciousness that is behind everything that you can see with this potentially could go in the idea of God. Well, also in this quantum mysticism is the idea of getting in tune or discovering the frequencies and sounds, because everything vibrates. Everything has a frequency and so the idea is definitely this out sufficiently.

Hopefully that if you want to create or control reality. You need to be consciously aware of the frequencies and the vibrations of reality that you can get in touch with in order to bring about what you want.

This is New Age New Age is based on Hinduism and some other things where the idea of the divine is inside of nature and some views the divine is not conscious out of use. It is that there is a living kind of a frequency and idea of vibrational energy that you become in tune with different frequencies of different objects, different things, and that colors, sounds, lights, vibrations, patterns can then bring you into harmony with office soon Buddhism will say no middle ring to say this phrase that's supposed to get them in tune with the divine consciousness and so you can bring about certain things you desire. All right now the reason I bring this up his will for me.

It's interesting stuff sucks in the new apostolic Reformation.

There it, which is sweeping through the Christian church. The idea within that new apostolic Reformation and a are is the idea is that prophets and apostles are alive today and the apostles are the ones were preeminent and the apostles are the one sweet apostles of the primitive and the prophets work under the apostles and apostles have the authority to determine the church and the prophets get words from God judge by the church and/or elders and/or the apostles and their getting new truths, new revelations, these apostles and his prophets. They say that what they're getting is from God.

Now, having said all of that.

What I want to do is read some quotes from a book called the physics of heaven by Ellen Davis and Judy Franklin with this book carefully and I developed an article on the read from the article on car unvarying quotes there hitting on their and so the number think about this. Think about the idea of getting in tune with consciousness. Note this is experiential. Therefore, strict logic and factual examination of positions is not encouraged because vibrational frequency entombment is better getting in tune with the divine consciousness with God.

Those are the Trinitarian God who operates vibrationally through the universe and so what they're doing. Some of them with her doing is using all of this new stuff to support old heresy. Now here's what one of the quotes okay. I believe that the Lord what the Lord is been showing both of us. The atlases by the two authors is the absolute truth that will help us bring God's kingdom to earth.

The Lord is ready to use sound, light and energy in ways we never dreamed. Now there's a lot more basic about a couple minutes of the read through some of these go through these ongoing understanding to hear what's being said of this is creeping into the Christian church. This is not biblical because people are not putting the Scriptures in the proper place of the final authority.

Now it's the revelation of getting through prep apostles and prophets, as well as their own revelation. I get through the spirit of God and by getting used to this sound like it energy in ways you never dreamed of before. It's clever and it's bad and they said bring heaven to earth is our mandate that is not our mandate is not what our mandate is to take dominion over the earth is called the Dominion mandate and to evangelize not bring heaven to earth.

In this they go on and they say there's going to be a new movement of the Holy Spirit and that it's gonna be 10 times that of Pentecost 10 times more powerful.

Now this is really interesting because with her doing is opening themselves up to the occult by the idea of getting in tune with frequencies and energy waves and then focusing on them and so they say there's going to be the power of the world to come will be 10 times that of Pentecost, says Bob Jones is more dominant continue through this after the break is going to be calling 772-0727 sexually right back after these messages I call 77077 back to the show together five minutes. I want to say that this book has been approved by film Mason the spiritual director new earth tribe, Byron Bay, Australia, author of quantum glory by banning leap sure Jesus culture director from Bethel church in Redding in the Bethel church in Cleveland by Steve Witt. They approve of them as well. There are multiple authors that contribute to the book and the other well-known inside of the new apostolic Reformation.

Okay, so here's some more things that they have said different authors of said so all the contributors agree that the next move of God will cause a shift at the deepest level of who we are, perhaps at the very vibrational level that the New Age movement has been exploring. They also all agree that there are precious truth hidden in the New Age that belong to us as Christians and need to be extracted from the worthless. So what they're saying is we can look to the New Age to learn things so if that's the case, and all the contributors written all the contributors of this book says that God is on the verge of releasing something new on the earth, and that new thing somehow involved vibrations, frequencies, energy, sound, light, and taking quantum leaps. By faith we can reach into God for what has been reserved for tomorrow and pull it into our today so now you can manipulate through vibrations and that and get things at a God. And then because we are exploring territory that some people fear it is full of counterfeits got the New Age movement Jonathan Welton explains that Christians need not be afraid of being deceived by counterfeits, but should realize that whenever we see counterfeit.

We should try to discover the real behind rebuffing deceived while and then Jonathan Welton says to test all counterfeits, both natural and spiritual, you must determine the source.

No to test all counterfeits you look at Scripture and use it as looked this out.

The guide, you'll look at the source of something else. You look at the truth of who God is and so there's all this kind of stuff. So now I want to do is move down my list to the stuff on quantum physics and will get to the quotes of the colors. So this book is a conglomeration on the things Ellen and I is an Internet introduction have learned about science, sound, light energy frequencies, vibrations, and quantum physics. The revelatory connection between quantum physics in the spirit realm poses an uncomfortable challenge quantum seasoning.

Quantum mysticism is a term that has been used to refer to a set of metaphysical beliefs and associated practices that seek to relate consciousness, intelligence, or mystical worldviews to the ideas of quantum mechanics goes on quantum physics is one of the great scientific disciplines bridging the river of confusion between science and biblical kingdom. Thinking that's here's another one.

There are negative and positive vibrations a positive vibration is like a portal into heaven, a negative vibration is like cancer when the power comes the positive will kill the negative. It's vibration everything vibrates rocks, trees, everything vibrates when we vibrate. I think it's opening a portal with this stuff is from the occult in the New Age and these two authors.

These two women are using at to promote the reasons scriptures in the Bible to promote false doctrine of that was said by guiding Bob Jones registrant or something else. The Holy Spirit vibrated over nuclear matter to an energized giving it reality to be shaped and formed less than McCollum and then Diane McCollum says activate your sensitivity to your oral or is energy field. Your aura oral and spiritual environment. When you suspect a unique sound of lights count light encounter. Follow it. Let's see, this is by Ellen Davis and Judy Franklin when the vowels of ancient sacred languages such as Hebrew Sanskrit Egyptian and Tibetan were pronounced. The vibration took the shape of the written symbols for these vowels, while our modern language failed to produce the same result and guy named David Van Cova ring said matter is frequency being spoken by Jesus, Judy Franklin said the Lord began showing me visions of what was to come.

Judy Franklin said as soon as I read that parent read that paragraph. I looked up and saw God the father at the beginning of time, and I saw our Univar verse with nothing in it is the vision she had. Sorry for the Bible says you can't see God the father. First Timothy 616.

It was an approachable and no man has seen nor can see we get to suck on the father.

I looked up to see an angel standing right in front of me. I'm not an angel type of guy says Cal peers, but suddenly there was an angel speaking to me saying I'm sent by God to answer your questions about the energy crisis. I am the energy angel and Cal peers who I later met a man. God had taken to heaven and shown how to produce four dimensional objects with sound. Later I attended a conference record a Native American sure about Sanu sono luminescence sounds creating burst of light and that's a winner tomorrow and see a 24 was caught up into the spirit realm. I saw God seated on the throne says Larry Randolph when he finally did look at me. I heard the cells in my body scream in unison hide me from the face of him who sits on the throne and then there's a couple more that are fun. The four universal elements are water when fire and earth, the sound of heaven. All the frequencies of the sound spectrum can be heard in water, wind and fire says ratios in the book and finally when God breathes on the thing. It smells like apples that Bob Jones so my goal here is as an apologist as a teacher of the word is an offender, the faith is to equip Christians in one of the ways to equip Christians is to just read what the false teachers are signing. Sometimes just going through what they say not to comment too much bliss of this listener.

This you get it you man that is whacked and that was happening.

And yet this book is accepted by a lot of the new apostolic Reformation teachers we been contributed in it with me the privilege written this stuff is New Age. The step is the occult stuff is not Christian is being promoted by some teachers in the new apostolic Reformation and its spreading to get ready for the show to come to your church. Be aware and see things as they we have three open lines may call 772072276 we write back after these messages for Satan that I call 77077 charismatic slave lines 87720276 of the Martin from Virginia.

Welcome Rick. The loft well now know is a smell like apples. In fact, the address of that as it says in song of Solomon 78 and his breath smells like apples so song of Solomon between a man and a woman and she says, his breath smells like apples.

So when God breathes on the thing is smells like apples. Well, I am open graded baby I get an energy angel felt yeah I need some more than just an angel of eminent energy angel. But yeah he needs something else needs of the ministers you you mentioned a book that the other that I read a book about seven years ago.and it paralleled a little bit what you are fan.

The author took little more good.

Granted the offer to include a lot of religion and bring them in.

How have I jostled you reading it and they did. I think the double split article mom obvious that I think you twisted article experiment with this great… One of level about a good book to you. Modern physics and agent are BAA one is a little bit older than the physical got a little deeper and I mean I certainly had double differed on some of the concepts but have a Christian approach is very fact that the book modern physics. Modern physics ancient beliefs okay you are not through the Latin name but it looks great four months to finish it.

If it is not renewed when you reading a different one called God is not dead and that's dealing with quantum physics of so you never had little or no Mike my Kindle. So read that the common account, I want to make it I've got unfortunately out and portray. Certainly I've got several family members, that are heavily my fickle fish working know you and and and always bashing on dying Christians dying and people are dropping off the fate back to them of what you totally believe in the metaphysical. That means you're not a like you claim you are so that you look at those numbers. Metaphysical boat people that they don't believe in God are trying to stop that God boy for something else. They just don't want to house God in there, but they want to have their God is great you are doing.

Unison is a common denominator between Wicca and New Age in that both have means by which you can extract from God what you want or the principle of divinity that you want through séances or crystals or vibrations or frequencies of speech or incantations or whatever it might be, but that it just the same thing, of how to get control and power, for you and that's the they the underlying principles in these things and are disguised in varying theological systems methods going on, but the doorman of the goal for you type of oh yeah it's it's bad and yes that and and you know there's an increase in this, but here's some good news is that I'm discovering over the past few months on the Internet more and more young men who are well adept very adept at thinking through things like this and exposing grammar and using Scripture as the authority I'm seeing more and more in its increasing and to praise God for that. He is providing answers as providing individuals who come up and rise up and do a trek for God's work. So that's that's good enough for them to agree that there is sort of a a a cultural ride younger are walking in Granite River River church in the wall thing and but you can always count. I pulled them out of old and talk them more personally to have exposure to Scripture that it may not be a strength should be but if they're honest they they got there Raymond, or correct that's that's happening and I'm finding young men that some of them will both listen to what I had to say and some a few others I know who talk like this and do this kind level of apologetics in their learning.

So that's good. It is increasing and I praise God for that. Yeah that's good stuff so much of the book is will appreciate RMR and goblins a you and give me a call. We are for open lines. All you have to do is dial 877-207-2276 is get the Mike from Iowa Mike welcome around here like I'm tired of you please initiate just getting all that I love you. Okay, I've called you before, and I have a question about the fact that the earth, even the elect will be the thieves. Please help me understand that Arthur let your heart hurt yeah making right sources, unless those days been cut short. No life would have been saved but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short, and that's Matthew 24, 22, and also in Matthew 2424 forkfuls Chrysler false prophets will arise will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

All right if possible. Another word is not possible. Wow.

Okay so you know who the elect are required to Scripture. This is theology that most Christians I've encountered don't like in most churches don't teach but it's right there, just read two verses where the word elect is right there and that word initially attest that word in Strong's concordance is a number 1588. I'm hitting enter. It occurs 23 times in the New Testament for many are called but few are chosen and Matthew 2431 and he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet that will gather together his elect from the four winds of Mark 1320 says, for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened as go to Romans 833 who will bring a charge against God's elect God's owner justifies Romans 1613 Rufus eight choice man in the Lord and elect man in the Lord is an individual.

Romans 1613 and then get this first Timothy 521, I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus Christ Jesus and of his chosen angels or his elect angels to maintain these principles and Revelation 1740. I'm skipping a lot of these will wage war against the Lamb and the Lamb will overcome them because he is a Lord of lords and King of Kings and those who were with him are called, are the called and chosen the elect. The called and elect of and faithful so the word here is dealing with God's choosing, and if you go to Ephesians 14 Mrs. Bible just as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that would be holding things for so he asked the father chose us. That's the true chosen ones. The elected ones in him. As Jesus. So the father chose certain people certain ones in Christ. The choosing is done in Christ in him is a phrase of federal headship of representation and so the choosing by God the father can only be done with Christ, the pre-incarnate Christ exist existing and the chosen ones are the elect was the foundation of the world get back a variant of the it is I get back. The Barack spent a little more on this 24 a photo you may call all you do is dial 877-2072, which they thought the stuff in church matters like why call 77077 charismatic slave back to the show, Mike. Are you still there I okay explain a little more and then show you little makes sense why the elect can't be deceived is not possible for us.

What I was doing was showing you from the varying verses of how God chooses and he is called election that the Greek were to collect us, and it occurs in many places, there's no collect toss his chosen chosen or to choose but there's another word click a select collect toss and click gay they're very similar and in Greek, there next to each other in the alphabet and the word click gay teens to choose to select Paul is a chosen vessel 15. God chose to love Jacob and hate Esau. Romans 911. Romans 11 five God has a remnant of believers due to his choice goes on. This particularly interesting verse second Thessalonians 213 but we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit, so he says he's chosen you from the beginning for salvation. That's a different it's lemon us and them and us that only occurs three times in the New Testament, and one is right here. Second Thessalonians 213 God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation but also flickers 122 if I'm to live on in the flesh. This will mean fruitful labor for me and I do not know which to choose. The choice right and another he was 1125 and perversely force necessary… By faith Moses when he had grown up refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter choosing rather to endure all or ill-treatment so it means to take for oneself to choose for oneself, God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation, I went to Ephesians 14 which says that he chose us in him before the foundation of the world write this that's due with the intra-Trinitarian work now, having said all of this, check this out. John 637. Although the father gives me will come to me in the when it comes to miserly will not cast out. It does not say all that come to me.

The father will then give them to me.

If the company nope all that the father gives me will come to me. Remember, God chose us in him all that the father Jesus has all the father gives me will come to me in the when it comes to me. I certainly will not cast out fries canal from heaven not to do my own will but the will of him sent me this is the will of him who sent me that all that he has given me want to cut his chosen all that he's given me. I lose nothing but raise it up in the last day so now we go to Matthew 24, 22 and 24 we can get me understand unless those days have been cut short. No life and would save it for the sake of the elect those days of the cut short the elect are the ones chosen by God for the foundation of the world. Given by the father to the sun for redemption and false Christ will arise and deceive many.

Showing great signs and wonders to mislead, if possible, even the elect is not possible with the implication, why because they belong to God the father gave them to Christ and we are now his bought and paid for indwelt and we cannot be lost because Jesus as will the father that he lose none. Therefore, the elect cannot be misled.

This way, okay, I will about a moral bought all the you know you not the only one who said that when people it is humbling. Why would he choose us. I don't know. I heard a preacher once a I'm glad that God chose me from the foundation of the world are productive in the foundation of the world. Look at me now.

He wouldn't pick me up and I love that, and what this does is give us comfort that we are loved by God, eternally. His thoughts for his chosen ones are turned that the love that he has bestowed his infinite and what he has for us in the future cannot be undone. This is very humbling because of that our response should be a humble appreciation and thanksgiving to God and go serve. This is biblical theology. I teach like this. I put these things together and show people look at what it's saying they see it. This is good and I don't find these things started churches, I still find out why not. It's right there now with seven steps to having a better marriage. I called you a while ago called by boat, the extent that will you know hopefully little longer I'm okay were going but boy talk about changing. I already made have really all smoke. I really appreciate your and I'm so glad the more people need roof God think that what man would need to be taught what God says now advances in his right there in Scripture. Last night I was talking online. I give half-hour dissertation out of Scripture on things similar to this but different on justification and salvation and how it works. Laying this out to people in that lot of how to do this because they have never heard for I shall not shown things in the Bible and the lack we've been taught this as good question how come you haven't well thank you very much a man. God bless and thanks Colin and great question. Lord bless you. Okay, but, it's all right, if also you may call 877-207-2276 to get the Brian from Texas right welcome you on here hello grossly. My question is some Roman Catholic colleges criticized audit you Eucharist thought that Zwingli was the first person ought that it was like spiritually or symbolic, and that wasn't the actual presence of the Lord of the body of the Lord make the first one they believe the church is that it if they came to you with that argument how Jewish mother. It's incorrect and not as an aggressive one 33.1 90 A.D. he talks about it for men to partake of the flesh of man is a thing most hateful and abominable and more detestable than any other unlawful or natural food direct so right there. He's refuting the idea of of at actually eating the body and blood of Christ and then I'm scanning through them. Here we go from Augustine, who died in 430 A.D. he said for the sacraments had not some points of real semblance resemblance to the things of which there sacraments they resemble. Okay, they would not be sacraments at all.

In most cases. Moreover, they do in virtue of this likeness bear the names of the realities of which they resemble, and Augustine also said he said this seemed to enjoin a crime or vice to drink his blood, etc. it is, therefore, a figure enjoying that we shouldst have a share in the suffering of our Lord. Let's see Clement of Alexandria, he figuratively calls the word shed for many for the remission of sins.

The holy stream of gladness on the blessed the best I didn't read the whole thing and he blessed the wine saying take drink this my blood. The blood of the vine. He figuratively calls the word shed for many for the remission of sins is Clement Alexander died in 215 called a figurative Clement of Alexandria said.

Elsewhere the Lord in the gospel according to John brought this out by symbols.

He said he might flesh and drink my blood is more coincidently when I was teaching on Eastern orthodoxy. Last night the issue. The Eucharist came up.

I had this this information of my screen so that's why we went right to it which is literally right there so you symbols so as not Zwingli was the first one to say that. Furthermore, when the Roman Catholics say that the Eucharist blood and the wine are the literal body and blood of Christ than you that I tell them I sent you understand.

I hope that the new covenant is not instituted until the death of Christ per Romans 915 and 16.

I read them texting okay good.

That means that the they were under the old covenant when Jesus is due to the supper right now, say that's correct. So he was obligated to follow vertical law was Nick. Leviticus 1714 for as for the life of all flesh is blood is identified with its life. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel.

You are not to eat the blood of in the flesh.

Okay not to eat the blood in the flesh but yet there with they have Jesus doing is instructing the disciples to violate the law's you think that throughout the century. The creation of art while also also either you about Mary Grace is Stacking up to that portion. Yes, think of the heresy is a bolder rolling downhill and the mountain of time allows a greater momentum of heresy to crash into other things, destroy truths and gather to itself like moss further errors in this is what is happened with the Roman Catholic Church.

I can go through and I can talk about Catholicism for hours at its many apostate doctrines is false teachings. It is bad news. What you think about your bread" on anything… Will make it.

Why would I recommend the book the gospel according to Rome by McCartt McCarthy. I think his name is the gospel according to Rome under the great deal of his other books to Roman Catholicism by six better but what I've done is I discovered the resources that come this way only have a minute connected with the quickly I've gone to the Vatican website I gone, I have access to an online searchable form of the catechism of the Catholic Church. I also have access to. If it's a brilliant document brilliant websites usually in the Accident of all the cross-references of all the church fathers. To all the Scriptures and you can type in a single verse will give you all the references of all the church fathers who said what is brilliant and you go through his heart, reading and researching find out these quotes that they cycle the symbol here and so I have a great deal of research, I don't really use other people's books anymore. School district the sources at a time limit on this more thought Catholicism got Leslie all right Catherine from Canada.

Can you resist being elected. No, you can't explain why collective body talk about so the Lord bless you all. By his grace back on the air tonight's Bible study, continuing through James for the Lord bless God bless another program powered by the Truth Network

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