Matt Slick Live

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Please give me a call and we can talk. So if you're new to the show, what we do here is talk about Christianity, theology, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Unity, Islam, Atheism, Evolution, UFOs. We talk about all kinds of stuff because I've been answering questions on all kinds of topics for decades now. I've been enjoying doing radio now for 17 years. Can you believe that? 17 years I've been doing radio.

Wow. Long time. I actually did a two-year stint before this.

This run I did once a week for a couple of years, so I guess technically it's 19 years I've been on radio. If you want to give me a call, we have five open lines, 8772072276. It's a good thing that I know what I'm doing with computers because I had to reset my computer and install all kinds of stuff, and I did over the weekend.

I used to be a computer tech, and boy, I'll tell you, it saves me a lot of money and a lot of trouble being able to do all that kind of stuff. So I had to get a couple of glitches, but it'll be good. In fact, when someone, the first person who calls in, I'll be able to check the text out on the new interface that I have because my resolution on my screen is so high that it doesn't render properly.

But I can still read everything. That's the way that goes. All right, give me a call, 8772072276. All right, since nobody's calling right now, I think what I'm going to do is talk about Roman Catholicism and talk about Mary. As I've said before, and I want to let people know this, that Roman Catholicism is not Christian. It is not Christian. You cannot go to heaven by believing in what official Roman Catholic theology teaches.

Let me say this again. You cannot make it to heaven. It is a hindrance to the gospel.

It's a false gospel, and it teaches idolatry and its adoration and worship of Mary. It's very unfortunate, but that's the case. And so what I'd like to do is just tell people and try and get them to understand some of the issues with the Roman Catholic Church. And what I can do, look at this, turn this down.

There we go. And what I can do is talk about some of that stuff. I do like talking about it because I want to inform people. You have to understand that I'm not someone who, you know, was raised a Catholic and a priest did something wrong. Nothing like that. No, it's nothing. It's just the issue is that... There we go. Let's do this. There we go.

So the issue is really simple. Roman Catholicism denies the essentials of the Christian faith, and it adds work to salvation. And I've talked about that before, but what I want to talk about here is what they say about Mary. And a lot of people are just blown away by what they think, when they hear what the apparitions say. Now, in my opinion, this is my opinion, is that the apparitions are demonic manifestations. They're demons that are influencing people, and they are false.

So what I'm going to do is read, and I'm doing this every now and then. I'm going to read what the apparitions have said, and this is... What I'm going to read is Guadalupe and Fatima. And these apparitions, the Roman Catholic Church says, are official. They really are actually the appearances of the real Mary. And so they say, no, this is her. This is real.

We've investigated. And this is what it says. There's three quotes from each group, three from Guadalupe, three from Fatima. It says, know for sure, my dearest, littlest, and youngest son, that I am the perfect and ever-virgin Holy Mary. That's the first one.

Okay. Then later on in Guadalupe, this happened in 1531, I am truly your merciful mother, yours and all people who live united in this land, and of all the other people of different ancestries, my lovers who love me, those who seek me, those who trust in me. Here, I will hear their weeping, their complaints, and heal all their sorrows, hardships, and sufferings. So notice the apparition says those who love her, you know, this apparition, my lovers who love me, who seek me, those who trust in me. This is idolatry. You don't trust in Mary. You trust in Jesus.

It's simple. And let's see, the third one in Guadalupe, it says, am I not here, I, who am your mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not the source of your joy? Are you not in the hollow of my mantle, in the crossing of my arms?

Do you need anything more? This is demonic. If it's truly an apparition, truly of God, then it should be bearing witness of who Jesus is. And this bears witness of itself. So I'm going to read three more, and this is from Fatima, happened in 1917, Fatima, Portugal. Are you willing to offer yourself to God to bear all the sufferings he wants to send you as an act of reparation for the sins by which he is offended and for the conversion of sinners?

And notice what it says. As an act of reparation for the sins by which he is offended. So the apparition tells these three children in this situation that they have to suffer in order to make their sins right. And that's demonic doctrine. Jesus is the one who suffered to do that.

We don't do it. So this is obviously bad. And since the Roman Catholic Church is apostate, it can't tell the difference between truth and error.

And this is just a perfect example of it. Here's a second one of the three. I will take Jacinta and Francisco shortly, but you will stay here for some time to come. Jesus wants to use you to make me known and loved. He wishes to establish the devotion to my immaculate heart throughout the world. I promise salvation to whoever embraces it. And now this apparition is promising salvation to all of those who have devotion to her immaculate heart. This is idolatry. It's just idolatry.

And then let's get to the last one. This happened in 1917. Sacrifice yourselves for sinners and say often to Jesus, especially whenever you make a sacrifice, for the love of Jesus, it is for the love of thee, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for the sins committed against the immaculate heart of Mary. So now this apparition is saying sacrifice yourselves for sinners, for the conversion of sinners, in reparation for the sins committed against the immaculate heart of Mary.

Now think about it. It's actually a sacrifice to Mary, this apparition. This is what demonic forces want. They want to give their services to themselves.

So this is something, just one of the multitudes number of things that are problematic with the Roman Catholic Church. We have four open lines if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Jeanette from North Carolina. Jeanette, welcome. Let's see if she can hear. I'm waiting for you, Jeanette. Let's give it a little bit of a try here.

And I'm not able to hear anything. So I'll put the... Yes. Hello?

Jeanette? Hello. Yes, you can hear me. Oh, good. Okay. Yeah, I had to get away from the radio.

Right. You should be able to hear me through this. Yes. Can I hear you? Can you hear me? Yes, I hear you. I hear you fine. Okay.

So what do you got? Yes, I was... Yes? Yeah, I was calling in reference to... I go to YouTube, I used to, and there's this person by the name of Tiffany Buckner, and she's over at, like, a deliverance. I mean, she talks a lot about the Jezebel spirit, and she always comes from Revelation. And, you know, I listened to her, like, a year ago, and then I stopped. I didn't know... She talks about empaths, and which is, in the spirit world, is, you know, the prophet and all that.

Okay, let me just land this claim. My concern is, she's always talking about, you know, the name of the demons and stuff like that, and she does not refer to Jesus quite a lot. It's always, you know, submit yourself to God, resist the enemy, he will flee, and she always going to Revelation chapter 2 about Jezebel, and, you know. So my question, has that name come up, or... I'm just trying to discern carefully. I mean, of course, you know, she gets paid for YouTube, and she always saying click and like, click and like, but I'm just a little concerned about people always chasing the devil.

I'd be really concerned. Yeah. Yeah, because when people talk about having the Jezebel spirit, and what they're talking about, usually what's associated with something like this is, you can be demon-possessed, you need deliverance, and she has the ability to deliver you, and just, you know, just support her financially, et cetera, et cetera, and it's usually manipulation, usually. So, that's the first thing I would say, and I'm looking on the website, and it says anointed fire.

Right, right. Yes, that's what she goes under that, and she's got like some books and stuff like that, and I was just... See, it's, she's saying it's anointed. What they're doing, people like this will do, is claim abilities and characteristics and power for themselves. They're anointed.

They're the ones you hear from God. So, yeah, I'm looking at this stuff. Deliverance assessment, ooh, that'll be interesting.

Idolatry assessment, narcissistic lover friend assessment. Oh, my goodness. Oh, man. So, okay. Yeah, it, oh, premium assessment, only $99. Man, I'm sorry. Oh, man, this is like whacko mail.

Hey, look at this. Tiffany will review your answers and set up a coaching call with you to go over your results and help you to plan for your next deliverance. Just $99, or how about this one?

Tiffany will review your answers, record either via Word document or audio your score and give you the next steps to receiving deliverance if you need it. That's only $59. That's a deal. Wow. Right. Man, oh, wow.

Yeah, deliverance. You know, let me tell you something. I'm telling you, I'm not great at anything, but I'll tell you. You know, I make a living off the website, and we have people who support us. And we don't make money on the radio. It costs us. We lose money, if anything.

We want to get out there and help people. And if someone said, look, I'll pay you. In fact, someone actually did this about three, four weeks ago. Someone wanted to debate me in the house. I know I have friends around the area and wanted to debate me in the house on a couple of topics.

One person wanted to on something, on lunar atonement, actually. And he said he'd pay me $200 to have a debate. And I said, I don't want your money.

You're not going to do that for a long time. He says, you know, what are you in for? Because she's got these assessment things, and the store's got apparel, card games, music shop, bookstore, audio lessons.

Let's see what they've got for apparel. It just sounds to me like making money. Now, there's nothing wrong with making money, but you've just got to be careful.

You don't want to do it with the name of Jesus as the justification. Oh, she's the author of 49 books and counting. Rangeful relationships. Oh, I'd love to interview her. So I'd stay away from her. Okay. All right.

You're going to break. Do you want to hold on? Do you want to hold? Oh, yeah. Okay, hold on.

Okay, she's holding. We've got three open lines, give me a call, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you've got to do is dial 877-207-2276. And we have four open lines, so give me a call.

Let's get back on the air with Jeanette. Welcome. Are you still there? Yeah. Of course. Yes, Matt.

I'm glad you're on the radio to help people like myself. Yes. Yeah. Deliverance ministries usually do far more damage than they help because they teach people who can be possessed. You've got a demon of this in you, the demon of that, you're the spirit of whatever it is, and now that person is the one who declares it upon you. That person has the ability to get rid of it because that person is the one authority over your life now, and it only costs $59.99 to be delivered.

See, it's a gimmick. I'd love to interview her. I appreciate it. Oh, I'd love it if she called in a show right now and says, I don't know what to give it to you, you've got the spirit of something. She'd say something like, you've got the spirit of rebellion. I'd go, I do? Okay, okay. How do you know that?

I'd ask her questions. Yeah, because I, well, now you've got to go to other callers, but it's just, you know, with everything going on with, she uses the example of Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith, and she was doing something else like a year ago, I can't really remember, but it's like, you know, they were using that word narcissist a lot, and she's on that bandwagon, and I'm like, but my thing was, and my spirit, she said something last night, and it was like, uh-uh, the Holy Spirit's like, uh-uh, and then, you know, I just thank God for the Holy Spirit, because I'm like, uh-uh, you know, and I ask God to forgive me for opening myself up to it, you know, again, because I, you know, I had apologized to her because I was like, where's your Bible, where's the BBCV, I'm a BBCV girl, Bible book chapter and verse, that's who I am. Oh, I like that. Yeah, you can use that, BBCV. Good deal. And within content, I learned that from you, and you've still got the karm.org, right?

I can still go to Karm. Oh, yeah. And all that, right? Yeah, I haven't talked to them in a while. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just say, I've talked to people in deliverance ministries, and they need to be delivered from the deliverance ministry, they need counseling, because they're thinking, oh, no, I can't be saved, look at me, I got the demon of this, I got the spirit of that, you know, it's bondage, bondage. It's bad. I agree, because I know Colossians 1, 2, and 3, and his name is above every name, and I'm like, I ain't got time to be trying to learn all these laws, whatever it takes, Marine and LeVar, I'm like, well, you have time to study the word, you know, you learn in this and that, and you know, I almost fell for it, because, you know, when you don't, you even said it, you know, you got to rightly divide the word of truth within content, and I know I love about your show, and if I'm going to send somebody some money, it's going to be you.

I'm not buying, she got another car, you know, I guess that's what got me. I'm thinking, you get all this money, and it's like, look, after COVID, I'm through, I'm through with false teachers, I'm through, I was way through before, but I really got through with that. So I do a thank you for your show, and I plan to support you. I do. I'm not saying this because I'm on the air, but I am. I thank God that I was able, I was waiting at 5.15 to call you here, so I'm done. I'll let you go to the next caller. I do appreciate you.

Well, God bless. Okay, thank you. I'll call again if I have another question. Thank you. Please do.

Please do. Bye. Okay. Okay, bye. Wow. You know, the car I drive is 10 years old.

The air conditioning works on one side, and the radio only shows FM. That's what I drive. You know, if someone said, hey, Matt, you know, we could get something on your website, and we could set it up so that you could make a lot more money just by selling deliverance to the site, I'd say, get away from me. Get away. You know, I don't sell this stuff. Okay. Any rate.

Let's see. Oh, we have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276.

Stephanie from New Orleans. Welcome. You're on the air.

Hi, Matt. I had a question. Someone recently told me that they are decreeing and declaring health and healing, and I had never heard that before, and I wanted to know your take on that.

Yeah, what you need to do when someone does that is take a few steps back, because you don't want a lightning bolt to hit you when it comes down and strikes them. So decreeing, they, in their foolish arrogance, tell God what will happen. I decree my healing. God's the one who heals, and they're decreeing it, saying that they are the ones who will say how it's to be. And because God has bound himself to the word, that's what they say, therefore, I can decree what will happen. This is idolatrous foolishness. It's blasphemy. Okay. It happens.

It is. You don't decree anything. You get on your knees, and you say, Lord, I'm a sinner saved by grace and kept by your grace. And I ask that you would heal me. And if you choose not to, please give me the grace to glorify you. And if you take me, may even my death be for your glory. This is the attitude a Christian would have. But when the fools come in, and they speak for God, I decree my own health.

I decree my own wealth. These fools are going to pay a dear price when they face God. They're not only misrepresenting him, but they're also hindering others from knowing who he is. Because there are people who will believe these lies, who will say, I don't need a doctor, so I'm not going to go to a doctor. I'm going to decree my own healing.

Because I listen to so-and-so minister or woman teacher, whatever it is. And then they get sick, and they don't go to the doctor. And then they die because they don't go get checked. This is the kind of thing that happens.

And they're responsible for people's deaths. So yeah, the fools will speak like that. I wondered what a person would think if they believe that they're decreeing something. How do they react then when God's will isn't to heal them, or I wonder what they think of God then. Oh, he would never do that. God's will is that everyone be healed all the time.

That's what they say. I remember once, I was with a friend of mine back in San Diego who has that same attitude. God never wants anyone to be sick. He would never.

He doesn't want to be sick. I said, really? I said, would God ever make anyone say blind? He says, of course not.

Of course he would never do that. I said, okay, you're sure about that? He said, yeah. And I said, let me read to you Exodus 4-11. The Lord said to Moses, who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord? Now, what do you do with that? And this guy just didn't know what the scriptures taught because these lying, deceiving pieces of crud teach this foolishness.

And I remember he read the text and I was quiet for a full minute waiting for him to speak until he finally said, I don't know what it means, but it doesn't mean what it says. I never forgot that. Hey, hold on. We've got a break. Okay. We'll be right back. Folks, we have three open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276, we'll be right back, please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.

We have three open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276, Stephanie from New Orleans, you still there? Yes. All right. Okay. So I hope I made my point. Was there anything else you had to say there?

Because a break kind of kept up on us there. When I asked the person to clarify, they said, in a nutshell, it is saying, saying something. So they said, a decree by secular definition is an official order issued by a legal authority. The decree that I am referring to is God's word or scripture. Declaring is saying something in an emphatic manner. So to put it all together, I make it a point of my daily devotion to decree and declare God's word. Yeah.

Yeah. It's deception. The person is deceived. In prayer, we don't decree. We don't declare. In prayer, we supplicate. We ask. We confess. We praise. And we ask, if it be your will, my Lord, would you please, et cetera, et cetera. We can say, Lord, I know that you promise you'll never leave me and never deceive me.

And I stand on your word and the truth of your word in that. This is how we're to speak, but we're not to speak in the blasphemous ways that these people are taught. Where they decree because their arrogance conceals their own sin.

Where they decree, they are using God's word to demand, command. Okay. It's bad. Yeah. It made me feel uncomfortable when I read that.

I was like, I've never heard that before and I don't recall it being ever worded like that in the Bible. So that's why I wanted to call for clarification. I'm with you. That's right.

It's bad news. All right. So good for you. Thank you. All right. Well, God bless. Okay. Thank you too.

Sure. That was Stephanie from New Orleans. Let's see the next longest waiting person is Bob from High Point.

We lost Bob. So now let's get over to Jeanette. Jeanette. Welcome. I think you were just on a little bit ago, but welcome you're back on the air. Hello.

I'm sorry I'm outside. Hello. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I was, this is Jeanette calling you back from Durham.

I'm sorry I'm outside. I just wanted to, I thought I was going to be last, but I told the person I'm not going to be long, but I have a personal testimony behind that. It was, I'm still waiting on God's will to be manifested. I listened to someone teaching that. I asked them, I asked that. It's out of the word of faith.

Okay. And I used, like you, I used names, Billy Brown and it was on Sid Roth. My mother was in a coma and my sisters who are not under Lord Jesus Christ yet, I'm trusting him. I remember telling her when mom said, she's going to be okay. You know, I declared decree. I went on what I was taught and I thank God for you. I thank God for the Bible.

I think I was established in righteousness because my mom did not live. Okay. And I was on the floor for seven days, repenting, crying. I was hurt.

And of course the enemy came. What about, you know, I said, you shut up. I got loud.

I didn't want to be bought. I fasted for seven days. I said, I know my God is good and you know, it's your mom. So you, you get into your emotions and you know, she went into a coma and she didn't come out. And on the seventh day, I think the eighth day, cause my sister was making arrangements and they were, my sister was hot at me, but I said, I ain't going to use her name cause I ain't asking for permission, but I told my sister on the, I said, Lord, how do I do with this? And the Lord just said, I'm the Lord thy God. I am, I was, and I always will be, and I love you and it's going to be okay. And so God healed me and I'm still expecting him to soften my sister's heart cause what, he turned it around for my good, but that Billy Brown and she was on the sit rock and they were saying, you know, you declare and decree and all that. And I was just so confident that God would heal her, but like you said, I didn't go the right way and say, well, father, your will be done. You know, I was just, you know, got into my emotions, but on the eighth day, well God carried me that whole week I was on the floor, literally I was on the floor just crying out and I had to go when I went there, they were cruel, but that's okay.

God kept me. And I just want to, I went over, I'm sorry, I'm trying to, I taught long, but I'm done. And I, I, it was horrible, which you said it was horrible. You don't have the right to tell God what to do.

The tears come down my face now, but I'm just saying, I agree with everything you're saying and anyone that hears this, yeah, it's not right. I'm done. Okay. Well, good. God bless. You know, appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Okay.

Well, there you go. And it was Jeanette from North Carolina. We have four open lines if you'd like to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Anna from Canada and a welcome. You're on the air. Hello.

Are you there? Hello. Hello. It's Anna.

Hi. I have a question about the apocalypse. Yes. Is it happening soon, now? No, it's not happening now.

But Biden and Harris and Putin and others are certainly aiding its rival, but no, it's not happening. I've had this reoccurring, yeah, but I've had this reoccurring dream and I really, I'm bothered by it. Okay. What's the dream? I just want to see if it's trying to tell me a message or something. The dream is everything is normal on top, beautiful, beautiful, everything is normal. And when I walk downstairs, there's a bed, it's bad, it's smelly and stuff like that. And it keeps, like I have this dream like over and over and over again.

And I almost feel like it's trying to tell me a message. Okay. I don't know what to tell you, but you do go to church, right? Do you go to church?

I always believe I am like the spirit that's in me, for sure, right? Do you go to church? I try not to do bad things. Do you go to church? I am, I was, do I go to church?

When I can, I do, yes. Okay. What church do you go to when you go? The New Hope, New Hope community. Okay.

As long as it's not Catholic and Eastern Orthodox and some other stuff, but okay, what I would do is, you know, at the church, you need to go on a regular basis and talk to the elders and see what they have to say and stuff because they might need prayer. And my last dream was, sorry, my last dream was, I was in a basement, it was deep in the ground and I seen, I seen a chicken, it lost all everything. And it was just slowly drinking water and I asked, I asked it, are you okay?

And it looked at me and said, I'm fine, but it was just stripped down from everything. So I don't know what that dream was. I wouldn't put any credence in your dreams.

It's just dreams. Okay. Just don't worry about it. Yeah. You need to go to church. Uh huh. Maybe I'm too worried about what's happening. I don't know.

Yes. You need to go to church and read the Bible and talk to the elders and things like that. You need to do that. Okay. All right. That's what you need to do.

You need to be involved with a good church. Okay. All right. So you can help me on the, um, like that's the dream I told you about. Okay.

I'm going to tell you again, don't worry about your dreams. Okay. Don't worry about it. You need to go to church.

You need to get grounded in a good church. Okay. You're, you're just, it sounds to me like you're just being concerned over nothing. Okay. In the Acropolis, is it happening? Like are we in it? No, we're not in it. No, we're not. Okay. We're not in it. We're not? No.

No, we're not. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome. All right. Thank you. Okay.

God bless. All right. Yeah. All right. Why don't we get on the air with Jeff from North Carolina, Jeff, welcome. You're on the air.

Yes. I heard someone last night on the radio mentioned that there was a very heavy Mormon influence on that series, The Chosen, and I've really never noticed it. I'm not a Mormon, I'm a Baptist, and it, it seems that, you know, I've enjoyed it. I've really enjoyed the series.

I've watched it probably four times the first two seasons, and it takes a little liberty with the Bible, but it's, I feel like that's pretty close to the word, and I just couldn't understand what that person was talking about, the Mormon influence. Well, when the break is over, I'll talk, we'll talk about it, okay? So hold on.

We've got a break. Hey, folks. We have Four Open Lines. You're going to give me a call. 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. Hey, welcome back to the show. We have Three Open Lines. Why don't you give me a call?

877-207-2276. Back to Jeff from North Carolina. All right, Jeff. So The Chosen and The Mormon Connection, right? Yep. Right. Okay.

Yes. So I live, I was just in Utah last week, as a matter of fact, and I understand the Mormons have a set, and they rent it out, and Jenkins, the producer, is using it, and with the blessing of the Mormons. Now, the Mormons want to use anything they can to further the idea that they are true Christians, and they're, of course, not. Jenkins, if I understand, he's the director of everything, he said that Mormons and the Christians believe in the same Jesus, and that's just not true. It is absolutely not true.

The Jesus of Mormonism is a false Jesus and not true. And so this is a serious problem if he's to say that. Now, the problem then becomes a gray area. Do you use the facilities of unbelievers for the promotion of the true gospel?

There's a yes and a no to that in different situations, and I don't know any of the details of that. I'd love to sit down with Jenkins and talk to him about some of these issues with the Mormons, but if he were to realize that Mormonism is not Christian, it's the teaching of false God, then the question then becomes, well, how much is he going to be able to finish? And then he wants to get this work out.

So there's a lot of variables in there we can't work out very quickly. I'd like to talk to him sometime. But he needs to realize that Mormons are not Christians, and Mormonism is not Christian at all. So you know. But so far what I've seen, and I've enjoyed it too, that's not had any Mormonism in it. So that's good. Yeah, and the whole VidAngel software has been a blessing, I think, for Christians because you can watch an adult movie with all the adult stuff cut out, and that's been a blessing for us.

We're very particular with what we watch on TV. It's getting worse and worse and less that's even available for Christians. Right.

And it's going to get worse. And here's the thing. Christians are so divided and stuff that the cults like Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses and false religious systems like Roman Catholicism have the organization and the money. And so then the believers have to start working with unbelievers in order to get things done. And that's where the compromise comes in.

So it's a dangerous situation. But because the Bible says there's going to be apostasy, then what I believe that means in 2 Thessalonians 2-3, the apostasy must come before the men of lawlessness, the Antichrist arrives, is that the Protestant church, which is, you know, the Protestant church is going to go apostate generically. It doesn't mean every individual will, but it means things like the Southern Baptist Convention, which is now adopting a woke idiocy, is going to go apostate. We have denominations that have proven in pastors and elders, that's a form of apostasy, and then they'll start a proving of homosexuality and LGBTQ and the alphabet mafia. And they'll succumb to that sort of standing up against unrighteousness. They're going to hold hands and skip down the aisles together.

Yeah, it's going to happen. It makes me glad I'm old. Yeah, I wish I was, you know, I'm a fighter, though.

And I understand I'm 65, but I wish I was 20. Knowing what I know now, I'd be planning out my fight for the next 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years to fight for the kingdom of God, go to jail if I have to, and do whatever is necessary for the kingdom of God. And that's what we need to be doing as Christians. We need to have the attitude. Yeah, kind of the controversy with me and my wife is that she feels like God's in control and just let God handle it. Let what happens happen. Yeah, but here's the thing.

And I'm kind of like you, I want to fight. God's in control, but he says, go out into the world and make disciples of all nations. He's in control of all things. Nothing happens without his permission. That doesn't mean we sit and do nothing and don't worry about it. That's the wrong attitude. Because if God's just in control, why did he say, go out into the world and make disciples of all nations? I send you out as sheep among wolves.

Why do you say buy a sword? You know, if it's just, this is an attitude that I think is really harmful and shameful in Christian circles, not to speak ill against your wife, because it's just that everybody says this, God's in control, so we don't have to do anything. That's exactly what Satan wants.

Don't do anything. We need to be doing stuff. It's because the Christians aren't standing up and doing what God has ordained and called them to do. And that's why there are so many problems. Yeah.

Yeah. Lovingly tell your wife, lovingly say, hon, you're right, God is in control, but he also commands that we go make disciples. So you need to do both. Trust and go, trust God is in control and go do what he says.

That's why I live by that, you know, trust and go. It's simple. All right. All right. Well, being from North Carolina, I would just like to ask all your listeners to pray for the Tar Heels tonight.

I know God don't care who wins the game. What's that? What's the Tar Heels?

Yes. The North Carolina Tar Heels are playing for the national championship tonight. Oh. What sport is that? The Tar Heels have a basketball. Basketball. Oh, okay. I don't follow any sports, so I don't know.

Yeah. The Tar Heels have a very solid Christian man that Hubert Davis is a very outstanding Christian. He preaches.

He went and spoke to the football team and ended up preaching for like 45 minutes, giving the gospel. Praise God. You just don't see that in a public liberal college where I graduated from there in 78. Okay.

It's a very liberal school, and to have good Christian men at a leadership, you know, on national TV tonight with probably 100 million people watching, you know, it's going to be good. Amen. Well, yeah, I don't know anything about sports. I don't watch any, I haven't for decades, so I don't know who's who or what's what. But okay.

Hey, you know, Christian guy there, absolutely, sports can be used by God to further the gospel, so amen. Good stuff. Yep. All right. Okay. God bless you. Thanks a lot, Matt.

I listen to you every day. Good. And other than a few things like pre-trib and all that, I agree with you.

Well, if you're a pre-trib, I hope you're right. But I'm not enough of a scholar to argue with you. That's okay.

But trust me, I hope you're right. Okay. I don't want to be right. All right.

I don't want to be. That's what you keep saying. That's true. Yeah, that's right. Okay, brother. Well, God bless, man. Okay.

All right. Well, that was Jeff from North Carolina. Let's get on with Colton from Idaho. Where are you in Idaho? I'm in the southern end over there by Logan. Logan. Oh, you're way over there.

Yeah, I'm in the Boise area. Yeah. So what do you got, big guy? Like the last caller you were saying, all authority has been given to Christ on heaven and on earth. Yep. That's right. That's right. But, you know, the authority rests in him, but it's worked through us.

People don't realize that. We have that authority in Christ. We're lights of the world.

He says, I send you out. It's our responsibility because that's right. And you know what people do is bag up this, the Christian salt and a Ziploc and stick it away.

And they take their bushel and put it over the light. You know, I can't do anything. Just turn the other cheek, do nothing, you know?

Oh, it makes me mad. Right. Yeah.

Just give out tracks even just going through Wendy's and stuff. Yeah. There you go. So my question was on 1 Corinthians 6, 9 through 12, well actually 9 through 11 on the NASB.

I know that we're justified by faith alone, but verse 11 kind of gets me, such were some of you, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the spirit of our God. So with the wash thing, I've had a lot of people saying that's going to be baptism. Okay. How do they know that? How do they know that? Hello? Yes.

How do they know that it means baptism? That's what I would ask. Are you there? Yeah, I'm still here. Yeah. Yeah. I'd ask them, okay, show me what it means, baptism. Okay. Ask them this, does baptism wash us clean?

And they're going to say, well, yeah. Well, then why does 1 John 1.7 say that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sins? It's the blood of Christ that washes us, not water.

Simple. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Well, and then you've also got Ephesians 2, 8 through 10, by faith alone. And also Romans 4, 5, for the one who does not work, but believes in him, who justifies ungodly his faith, his credit, his righteousness, so that they'll do, right. That's verse three.

Absolutely. And so when people say, you know, washed, don't assume that what they say is correct. You'll say, show me from the context that it means baptism. Because if it meant baptism, why didn't he say those who were baptized?

So you're saying Paul, the apostle, didn't write it correctly, and it needs to be interpreted by what you say? Because the washing is what's cleansing us, right? It's not water that does that. It's the blood of Jesus in 1 John 1.7, amen. That's what it is. Yeah.

Well, that just kind of just brought something to my mind really quick. And if that was the case, why wouldn't you use baptism there? It's the only word that's not, it's transliterated, right? Yeah, from baptism, right? Baptism. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Why wouldn't that be used there?

Yep. And they'll say, well, that's what he meant. How do you know that's what he meant?

Just ask him, how do you know that's what he meant? Because he knows that the blood of Christ is what washes us clean. It's a blood of Christ that is what's shed for the atonement of our sins. And you go to Leviticus 17, 11, the blood is for the forgiveness of sins.

In fact, I'll read it right now, Leviticus 17, 11, the life of the flesh is in the blood. I have given it to you in the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is by the blood, the reason of the life that makes atonement. The blood of Christ is what atones for us. The blood of Christ is what seals us and saves us. So can I still use that type of argument with a Mormon who says, you know, he just did the atonement in the Garden of Gethsemane. Yeah, that's blasphemy because he sweat as drops of blood.

It doesn't say it was, but it was as it was like. And the Bible says he bore our sins in his body on the cross. That's where the atonement occurred because the sin bearing action was on the cross. So if they want to say on the cross, right, but they'll say it was begun in the garden and finished on the cross. So what they're doing is denying the sufficiency of the cross, which is why they don't have crosses on their temples or their churches, because it's not the cross that saves them, but their works. So they have an angel on their temple and they go in and kneel down under that angel in their temples.

So who are they kneeling? Yes. Yes. And in order to get to the temple, you have to have a full 10% tithe of your income paid up. Then you get a temple recommend.

You go in there, learn secret stuff while you're kneeling underneath an icon, a statue of an angel. Bad news. Hey, we're out of time brother. All right. God bless. May the Lord bless you.

Hey folks, we're out of time. May the Lord bless you. I hope you have a great evening and by His grace, we're back on here tomorrow and we'll talk to you then. God bless everybody. Good night. Another program powered by the Truth Network.