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So praise God for that and the good people that are there. Alright, four open lines. If you want to give me a call, 8772072276. Let's just jump on the phones and let's get to Rudolph from Raleigh, North Carolina.

Welcome. You're on the air. Yes, sir. I was having a very lively debate. Could you speak up? It's hard to hear you.

It's hard to hear you, Rudolph. Go ahead. What about now? There you go.

That's much better. What about now? Okay.

Go ahead. I was having a very lively debate with my friend Travis Jackson. We were talking about when we both listen to you and we want to know should Christians vote, pray or vote?

Both. Pray and vote. They should be voting. Christians should be voting.

Alright, they should be doing it. Now, you want to know why? Are you there? Hello?

Rudolph. Okay. Yes, it just so happens, ladies and gentlemen, I released an article today on CARM called The 45 Goals of Communism. Now, you may be surprised about what that is and why would it belong on the CARM website because we do governmental stuff as well. It suggests you go to CARM.org forward slash 45, just number four and five, 45, and just hit enter.

It'll forward you to the article. The reason I'm bringing this up is because of Rudolph's question. Should we be voting?

Yes, we should. The 45 Goals of Communism were published in March of 1961 in what's called The Naked Communist. They were read into the congressional record by Albert S. Herlong on January 10, 1963. They are the stated means which Communist Russia said would use to overthrow the United States. So, should we vote or should we let the unbelievers and all this stuff happen? There's 45 things.

I'm just going to go through a few of them, what it says. Number 15 is to capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. Well, a Democrat party absolutely is captured by the leftist socialist agenda, that's for sure. Get control of the schools. Leftism and socialism is being taught in the schools. Infiltrate the press.

Well, that's a fact. Gain key controls of positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. Obviously, that's happening too, the leftism that's being promoted there all over the place. Eliminate laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. This was listed in 1961.

This is what they said and then put into congressional record in 1963. How about this one? Number 26, present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as normal, natural, and healthy.

These are the things the communist group and people out of Russia and the communist group said they wanted to implement in the United States in order to overthrow the United States. Here's another one. Infiltrate the churches, replace revealed religion with social religion.

This is happening. The social gospel is infiltrated. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a religious crutch. In other words, attack religious truth.

Why is that important? Because if you don't have the truth of God in your heart, where you will then empower, won't take bribes, or won't put stuff on a laptop, or won't lie about things, or discredit the FBI, which is one of the ones, number 35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step. The Constitution is actually under attack. Now, I can go on and on and on, and I'll just read one more.

Discredit the family as an institution, encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Now, there's more. If we Christians don't vote, then the unbelievers will rule over us. So here's a question. Do you want unbelievers to tell you what is right and wrong? Do you want unbelievers to pass laws promoting the killing of the unborn, promoting homosexuality as normal, promoting transgenderism, the blurring of the lines between male and female, and also more and more as the stupid leftist, when DeSantis put in the bill, to not have sexuality taught to kindergarten age, first, second, and third year students, to not have that taught, and then the left calls it don't say gay.

In other words, they misrepresent. I'm telling you, folks, there's a cultural war going on. We Christians are going to find ourselves under the social guillotine. If we don't step up now and put a stop to all this ungodliness and destruction of our economy and our social structure and our churches, I'm going to tell you the first thing that's got to happen is the Christians have got to get their churches together. If we get rid of the social gospel, get rid of women pastors and elders, homosexuality is not an alternative lifestyle, start standing on the truth of God's word, start uniting, start moving, start promoting. That's what's got to happen. The pastors are going to start preaching biblical theology and stop preaching man-centered humanistic theological principles.

It's all up to us in a blonde haired black Caucasian surfer Jesus. Okay, all because of what you said, Rudolph. I can go on and on and on. We should be voting, absolutely yes.

If a Christian does not vote, then don't blame anybody for the problems. Go ahead. No, I was just saying, they can't change the outcome of things that happen. Yes, they can. Yes, they can.

Yes, they can. No, no, no, you don't understand. The enemy wants the Christians to feel helpless. You know, not that this is a great example, but it popped into my mind, the movie Gladiator, and they had this scene where the people were in the arena and the horses and the charioteers around them were supposed to kill the people inside the arena. You know, it's in the movie Gladiator.

And Russell Crowe, you know, he got them together and they fought and they won. Here's the thing. It's just an illustration. If you believe you're powerless, you'll sit and do nothing. If the Christians believe they're powerless and just wait and get raptured out and don't worry about it, then that's exactly what the enemy of the Gospel wants. The Christians should be marching in the streets and protesting all over the place and filing lawsuits when they're discriminated against.

The Christians need to do this and stop sitting on their hands and using Jesus himself as an excuse to do nothing. Yeah. Okay.

All right. And we can change this country. The Christians can change the country if the Christians start praying. The first thing that has to happen is that the Christians have to ask God to expose their own sin personally. What sin am I committing?

Teach me how to repent of it. You go into the churches, you pray for the pastors and the elders so that they would start preaching biblical theology. Recently I was in a church where the pastor read Scripture and exegeted very little of it and then preached a long sermon without historical redemptive, verse by verse, what does it actually say? I've seen this happen so many times where gimmicks are used, not that this church did that, but I've been to so many churches and heard so many sermons where it's a gimmick and it's an agenda that's forced upon the Scriptures. I think the pastors ought to sit back and say, what does the Word of God say?

What does it say? What does the verse say? How do we implement what it says in the Christian life? And point to the exit doors and say, folks, feel free to leave in the middle of the sermon. We're preaching to equip the Christians, not comfort the lost because that's what we're called to do as pastors, is to equip the Christians for the work of ministry. That's the job of the pastor and a teacher and the elder. But no, too many people are preaching a mamby-pamby humanistic, comfort everybody theology because things are getting bad. They pick up the cross and go follow Jesus. Get out there off your rears and go do something. You start with yourself, then you go into the church, you make sure that church is doing right, and you get out in society and you all try holding up signs and you go protest and you go say, no, no, no.

Christians ought to be organized, and when they're not organized, they won't do anything. No, no, no. You know, I was in a chat room today. This kind of stuff really upsets me. I was in a chat room listening.

I'm at the gym working out. And someone said, a Muslim comes in, does Jesus love everybody? And this person got on and says, oh, yeah, Jesus loves everyone. Well, then why would he send me to hell for being a Muslim if he loves me?

And I'm like, wait a minute. I'm thinking, no, Jesus doesn't love everybody. And I got the Scriptures. And I got in and I said the first premise was inaccurate, that does not say that God loves everybody because the Bible says in Psalm 5, 5 that God hates all who do iniquity. And the person, this female, get on, this woman, got on and said that that was my Calvinist interpretation. And I said, no, it's not. I just quoted Scripture. So what was happening is she was actually imposing an Arminian idea, the blond-haired, black, Caucasian surfer Jesus on Scripture, and then saying, no, it's not true, even though I just quoted the Word of God. This kind of thing needs to stop in the Christian church where when the Scriptures are read they have to be reinterpreted or contradicted with other Scriptures in order to make it say something that makes it more comfortable because Jesus loves everybody, the blond-haired, blue-eyed, Caucasian surfer dude, dressed in a woman's nightgown, standing at the door of your heart asking permission for you to let him in.

No, that's not how it is. We have a king, we have the sovereign Lord, and he told us to go out into all the world and make disciples of all nations. We should be getting off our rears and going doing it. I believe that if Christians start behaving like that, start picking up their cross daily, start working together, meeting in church and say, what can we do to change our society and actually come up with stuff, and they go and do what needs to be done on a regular basis continually and don't think it's going to take a week or two, it's going to take years. Christians need to stop being so short-sighted, start being long-sighted, work together, pick up their cross, follow after Jesus on a daily basis.

We can change this world. And if we don't and we let the unbelievers rule, then they're going to destroy us. They're going to tell us what we have to say in the churches and in our homes, and then it'll be too late for the Christians. They're already silencing conservatives on the media, which is abhorrent, and they're working against the Constitution as people are on Twitter and Facebook and YouTube. They're doing this, and what are the Christians doing?

Sitting on their hands, looking up in the sky and saying, I don't have to do anything, the rapture's coming. What a shame. Go ahead. Oh, there's a break. No, that's okay, thank you. Okay, Rudolph, God bless, buddy. Yeah, folks, this kind of stuff upsets me out.

The reason is because I know what we can do as Christians, and the Christians are disunited, and they're at each other's throats instead of doing what needs to be done in the Christian context. Hey, folks, three open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back, give me a call, we'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live. Taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, three open lines, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Orlando from High Point, North Carolina. Welcome, Orlando, you're on the air, what do you got? Hello, Orlando. I don't hear anything.

Maybe there's a tech problem, but I'm going to put them on hold. Let's go to Dave from Kansas City. Dave, are you there?

Yeah, I'm here. All right, Dave, what do you got now? Matt, what you just said in that last part was almost word for word what Douglas Wilson said in his book, Rules for Reformers. Really? And he wrote that in 19, yeah, I mean word for word, and he's another Idaho pastor. Douglas Wilson. Yeah, he's north of you about four hours, yep, yep.

Really? He is solid. I don't agree totally with him, but that's okay. Maybe I have not been enlightened, but he is solid. His book, I don't agree with you totally, but you know. Oh, you heretic, wow.

Man, I'll let it slide, I'll let it slide. 99.9%. Oh, that's pretty good, though. That's better than what my wife says. All right. Okay.

Yeah, I know, I told my wife to make me a sandwich, but she does not agree. That's a whole other, but that's a whole other issue. What I wanted, since we're on this, you know, I posted a thing about Jesus is a solid rock on my Facebook page, and I got, you know, I have friends on Facebook that one of the girls that got confirmed with me in the ECLA church liked another friend of mine that is a Roman Catholic, he liked another friend of mine who is an Ethan Orthodox alike. I'm trying to reach out to all these people and find a, you know, um, you know, witness to them, but, but I hope, I don't know, I don't know where the essentials lie in the broad tent. I can tell you. If you know what I mean. Yes, I do.

Yes, I do. If you go to Karm and look up essential doctors of the Christian faith, you'll see an article that's listed there, and you can also look up the doctrine grid. You can go to Karm right now and type in doctrine table.

Doctrine table is that, and it'll give you a better form of it. Well, I've, you know, I just list what the essentials are out of scripture. Not that I think it is, but you know, Jesus says, for example, unless you believe that I am, you'll die in your sins. Well, that's an essential because he said, this is what you got to believe or you're dead.

That's an essential. John 8 24. So he's God in flesh.

Jesus rose from the dead. You know, if our faith is, if Jesus is not risen, our faith is in vain. First Corinthians 15, 14.

So that's essential. Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone. And there's different verses for that, but you can go to Galatians three and Galatians five, one through four.

If you, you know, and there's, it actually has a warning. If you don't affirm this, you're lost in the gospel. So would that negate, would that negate the Lutherans and the Catholics? Depends. Because what you said was that it's actually ELCA, not E-C-L-A. Right. Right. And so I'm dyslexic. I'm dyslexic in the indirect.

That's all right. The ELCA is pretty liberal and pretty bad. The PCUSA is pretty bad. The Presbyterian Church of the United States of America. There's a lot of bad denominations out there who don't, don't hold the word of God. It was proper place in Christ and his proper Lordship.

And so they, they compromise. But, uh, if you want to, even the Lutheran church in America, I grew up in a Lutheran church, E-C-L-A or ELCA, but, but yeah, ELCA, but I was told that I was saved because I was baptized in his name and I was confirmed as a 12 year old and I went through the Confession of Faith and I was able to take communion. I know, but I'm saying, does that make it a cult?

Basically, yeah. They're teaching a false gospel. Yeah, it's a false gospel. And they're teaching, it's a cult in one sense, but I used to, uh, I've taught in an ELCA church.

It was a very good one in Southern California, but there are bad ones too. And the whole denominations going south, just like the Baptist denominations going south now just adopting their social gospel. Yeah, I know. That is true.

That is true. Yeah. So, uh, here, let me just jump to the thing here and just tell you what to say to them. Um, yeah, here's something I ask Catholics. I ask Eastern Orthodox.

I ask all these people who want to add works to salvation and it's pretty effective. I'll say, look, do you believe Jesus is God in flesh? And they'll say, yes. Does he have all authority in heaven and earth?

Yes. Does he forgive sins? They'll say yes. If you pray to Jesus and ask Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins, will he forgive you of all of his sins?

All of your sins. And the answer is they have to say yes. Well, if you, if you say yes, then do you need your baptism? Do you need your communion? Do you need your Eucharist?

Do you need your traditions? Do you need your church? Because if Jesus says, come to me at 11 27, he didn't say go to a church. He didn't say gets saved in a church, didn't say baptisms necessary for salvation.

Didn't say all these things. So you can do that. And, um, that's one of the things that I've done is to point people straight to Jesus. They, they need Jesus. I don't need a stinking church with all its stupid traditions and things that get in the way between Jesus and them. They need Jesus.

I know. I, I, I said that on an hour and a half conversation with my friend in the, uh, old Lutheran church that I grew up in because I called them heretics and because they believed in, uh, you know, all the gay stuff. And I said, there's no Jesus in that church anymore. And they called me up and he said, I believe in, you know, John three 16, uh, confessed to the math leaving Europe. And yet he's that 32nd degree nation.

Right? Well, it's people who don't believe in all that stuff because they don't know the word of God because the pastors are not doing their jobs out there. Well, we were told that the word of God was just myths made up like Andy Stanley theology.

It was myths made up by old people. You know what the cure is? You know what the cure is for that?

There's a cure for that. It's really simple. You just get a buddy and you go talk to the person who teaches that and he gets down on his hands and knees behind your, the guy, the heretic, and you push him over the guy's back. See, it's not like, stop it. Uh, this, you know, being born again, I know it's frustrating to me.

I know what the truth is and I know what we got to do as Christians and the Christians don't want to do it. They're too stinking lazy. They're lazy.

I know that that's the whole point, you know, and some of these Catholics and Eastern Orthodox are closer to the truth than they are. But yet you know, they're still holding on. Why are you still in there? I ask them.

Yeah, because it's comfortable. You know, people are going to have, people have a rude awakening on the day of judgment. Christ has called them as it says, Jesus says in Matthew 10 38, he says, he says, and he who does not take his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. You know, I rattle cages. I don't get asked to speak hardly ever at places because I'll talk like this. I'll say, look, you got to get off your rears. You got to go do.

You can't just sit there and be comfortable and go on a Sunday morning church thing and say, this is not done by Christianity. Let's go out in the world and now let's go go to a restaurant and get served. Come on. Everybody can do all this stuff.

You go, go out and hold up signs and talk to people, but they're going to do something. All right. Make your sandwich and we'll make her. Yeah, I'll have to make her sandwich.

That's right. All right, buddy. God bless. Hey folks, three open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

Welcome back to the show everybody. Let's get to Orlando. Let's try it again. Orlando, are you there?

Orlando? Yes, I'm here. All right. There you go, buddy. All right. Missed you before. What do you got, man?

What's up? Yeah, remember I talked to you about a week ago or so and you told me to call back when you found the answer about that. We were talking about Esther.

Okay. You remember? No.

And about which king was it? Was it Ahasueras? I don't know. Something like that.

That's how you pronounce it. Oh, I did. I looked up that stuff. King Articertic. Huh? Yeah, I looked it up and oh, what was the answer?

I've been so busy in between. There are different names for the same king. I believe that's what it is. One's a certain kind of name for something. I can't remember. Dang it.

Boy, I hate that. Let me put this in my notes because I did look it up. Okay. Don't worry about it. Can I ask you something real quick? Ask. Sure.

What do you got? Yeah. The first gentleman they call earlier today when he talks about all the things that if we don't vote. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

The US passport has started a new gender thing starting today. X. Yep. They do it very subtle.

They do it very slowly. Mm-hmm. And now they have female, male, and X. So you can be whatever you want. Yep.

Uh-huh. And what happens when a Christian says, I don't recognize transgender this or that. I don't recognize it.

I don't recognize it. Then they're going to be penalized. They're going to come after you.

Yeah. What a Christian's going to do now? Oh, I'll just have to lay low. Even lower than I have been my whole Christian life.

I'll have to stay away and be more comfortable my whole Christian life. Things are getting worse not because of my fault. That's why we got to get everybody to vote. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. And do more.

And do more. Yeah. We can't sit here. All right. Thanks a lot, man. Have a good day. Okay. God bless, buddy.

All right. Let's get to, let's see. That'll be Trina from Ohio. Trina, welcome. You're on the air. Hi.

Thanks for taking my call. Sure. I just wanted to know maybe if you have an answer between the discrepancies of faith without works is dead or you won't be saved by because then no one can boast.

And maybe a definition of what works would be in this day and age since we don't do, you know, sacrifices and things like that. And I'll just take the answer off air. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not sure I understand your question. Yes. What's your question? So I just, I'm confused about the faith, the scripture faith without works is dead and then the other, forgive me, I'm driving. I don't have them with me. Let me help you.

And then the other scripture that says, yes. Let's just go one at a time because I know what you're talking about. Okay. You ready?

Can you listen while you're driving? Are you there? Okay.

Yes, I'm here. Okay. This is what the context is starting in James 2.14. What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works, can that faith save him? What faith is he talking about?

Now he goes on and he explains. If a brother or sister is without clothing or need in daily food and one of them says go in peace but doesn't help them, what use is that? Faith without works is dead. But someone may well say, you have faith, I have works, show me your faith without the works, I'll show you my faith by my works.

So that's called a horizontal. See, if you say you believe in God but there's no change in your life, there's nothing there, that is a false faith. That's why it says faith without works is dead. A true faith has works but it doesn't mean the works save you. It means that the true faith is with regeneration and you're going to do stuff because you behave based on what you believe. You don't behave based on what you don't believe. So people behave based on what's in their belief, what they hold to. And so true faith will have works. This is why Christians, if they have true faith in Christ, should be uniting and working against the fall of our country and the world, if they have true faith. But faith without works is dead. This is the same kind of a thing.

This is what's going on here. That's all it is, okay? Okay. So as long as I'm continuing to try to be better and just to be like my father as best I can, my works is considered not necessarily, I don't want to be considered just good enough, but I just want to make sure that I'm saved.

I mean, I'm trying every day to be better. Let me tell you. Okay, this is what Romans 4-5 says.

I need to tell you. This is what you can understand. But to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.

No works. Because your works are filthy. My works are filthy. They're touched by sin. So no one can boast.

Is that the following or is that a different from what I'm thinking of? This says that you're justified before God by faith without any works. Because we can't do anything to make ourselves right with God. So we believe in him truly and that's what Romans 4 is talking about. True faith before God, justification before God.

But James 2 is talking about justification before people. You show me your faith, I'll show you mine is what he's saying in James 2-18. So you're saved by faith alone in Christ alone. Not by faith and baptism, not by faith and sacraments, not by faith and anything. But by faith alone. Amen, thank you.

That's what it is. To the one who does not work but believes. There's works and belief and so you remove works that is faith alone. That's what the verse is saying right there.

Romans 4-5, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome, Trina. God bless. Okay. Oops, sorry.

I cut her off there. You're welcome. Sorry, Trina. All right, let's get to Cole from North Carolina. Cole, welcome. You're on the air.

It's the first time I've ever called. I've been listening for a while. Oh, well, good. I'm glad.

So what do you got? Do pastors have to accept faith? I've been in debate with a few other fellow men and they say they need to be. And I say they don't have to be if they don't want to.

No, they don't have to take it if they don't want to. But it's okay to take it to live. Right. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. And I'm young. I'm a lay pastor. I work 50 hours.

I have a family. I'm a pastor and I'm young. I pastor a small congregation and they're intent on paying me and I'm sitting here saying, no, you do not have to pay me. I guess it's 1 Corinthians 9 that I'm going to where he says he has not exercised this power. 1 Corinthians 9, 12. Good for you.

He has not exercised this power upon them. What you could do if they really want you to take it. They really do. Let's say they force it on you, right? Now, that could be a tax problem. But then you could say, okay, whatever you give me. And that's what I tell them.

You could say whatever you give me. It's going to hurt to give it to them. I was going to say you could tell them whatever you give me, I'm going to write a check and tithe that right back to the church.

So you could do that. And that's what I've been telling them is that if you pay me this, it's going to harm me because then I've got to pay taxes on that to do what you've given me. And I'm a firm believer that a pastor, if he needs to be paid, he needs to be paid. I understand that. But if he's in a position like me and doesn't have to be paid, I would much rather see that money go to further the gospel. There you go. Yeah, you're free not to take it or free to take it.

A pastor is worthy of the pastor to be able to be sustained out of his living. But if he doesn't need it, don't take it. Why take it? Why bother? Exactly.

There's no biblical admonition that says the pastor must take a salary. Okay. Thank you. Now, I do have a question. I didn't tell the other fellow. Can I ask you that too?

Sure. It's just a Calvinist question. Explain to me exactly limited atonement.

I don't quite understand it. It's the teaching that Jesus only legally bore the sins of the elect. He did not bear the sins of everybody. He did not pay for their sins because sin is a legal debt because Jesus says, our Father in heaven, forgive us our sins, forgive us our debts.

He equated those, Matthew 6, 12, Luke 11, 4. So Jesus equated sin with legal debt. In Colossians 2, 14, Jesus canceled the certificate of debt, having nailed to the cross. So our sin debt's canceled. If he paid the sin debt for everybody, then nobody can go to hell because a sin debt doesn't exist. Absolutely. You can't just then say, oh, but you've got to accept it.

No, you don't. Because the validity of Christ's work is not made efficacious by you. It's efficacious by the fact of what he did, not by what you do. And so if he actually removed the sin debt for everybody who ever lived, then God can't send anybody to hell. It'd be like the person on Day of Judgment saying, why are you sending me to hell for? Because there's no sin on my account, right? Yes.

Well, why are you sending me to hell? Yep. And that's kind of what my thought process behind it. It must mean that.

And that's exactly what I thought. Not a full-fledged Calvinist, but studying and trying to learn the Scriptures. I'll tell everybody I don't know everything. But I am the student. It's okay.

It's all right. That's just what the position is. That's what the position is. If you don't believe it, okay, that's fine.

But that's the position. Yep. All right? Okay. Well, God bless you, brother, and have a wonderful evening.

You too, man. God bless. All right, folks.

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Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the show. If you want to give me a call, four open lines, 877-207-2276. Give me a call. Let's get to you. Mike from Iowa. Mike, welcome.

You're on the air. Okay. Matt, I got this friend who, actually, I used the article that I took off of your site this morning, 1 John 5, 16 and 17, the sin leading to death. And this guy said, well, what if man killed Ananias and Sapphira?

What? What if it wasn't God that killed them on the spot? How do you respond to somebody who kind of wants to, they want to rewrite what God's words are?

I would have said, yeah. I'd say, you know, you've got a point there because, you know, I think it might have been the people from Venus who did it. Because, you know, if you're not going to go with what it says, but what it doesn't say, then hey, maybe it was the Plutonians that did it, you know, because you know, it's Plutonians. That's right.

It could be COVID that went back in time with the Plutonians and the Plutonians used it as a COVID weapon with the COVID gun and killed them. So the illustration is when people abandon the text for what it says, and then they say, well, let's go the opposite of what it says, and then let's entertain that. I don't entertain it because I say, this is what the text says. Why are you contradicting what the word of God says? And that was my response to this gentleman. I'm realizing that the one who I need to really listen to is God in his word.

Isn't that just amazing that I finally, after 68 years of being on this earth, I'm realizing that I really need to trust in what God says and not what man says. You mean, let me get this straight. You mean you're kind of dumb and stupid. It took you all this time to figure it out because that's what it is. I'm pulling my support from your stage, I'm from your program, I'm done.

I love what you're doing, again, I've said this before, I listened to your show, actually I heard a replay yesterday of when I had called in about a friend of mine who got kind of sort of ripped off, paid 400 bucks to have somebody help remove a demon that's been bothering him. I think he's going to be paying him more money, and I told him, I said, you need to get a hold of Matt Flick. That is his last name, and it really is Flick, he's not just Flick.

Why don't you change your last name? Because it's too cool. I heard to pay for this running as a kid, you know. Oh, okay. Oh, so now it's a lot being cool. That's right.

Yeah, that's right. Reverend Flick, this sounds so good. I use it actually for evangelism. So you're 68, huh?

I am 68, I'm just so excited about things that have been happening lately. There's a friend of mine who was slowly killing himself with alcohol, and he happened to walk by the other day, and he said, I can't look you in the eyes, but I'm telling you right now, I'm taking the hold off of you talking to me about God's stuff. You can talk to me about God now, okay? Wow. And that was just, it blew me away. Good.

He didn't want to hear about God's stuff. You know, the AA thing is fine, but his higher power are those that have already dealt with the addiction. And I think it's sad that, you know, I think AA is a good, I'm trying to stay focused on it. AA is bad. AA is bad. Well, because how do you mess with the higher power? I mean, what is the higher power?

We have articles on it on CARM, on Alcoholics Anonymous. No Christian pastor should allow it in his church as being used. Wow.

It actually teaches occultism and bad stuff, it's not biblical sound. I was surprised. My buddy, he told me this, I'm like, nah, you've got to be kidding me. He showed me stuff. I'm like, are you kidding?

I didn't know this. And yeah, it keeps you in bondage for one thing. You're always an alcoholic, you're always in this. You always need to be going to what they tell you.

It's all like that, yeah. So is there hope for me in the fact that I was sitting on my front porch drinking a beer reading AA Big Book? Yeah, I think that's classic, drinking a beer while you're reading the Big Book.

But yeah, you can go to CARM and you can read some articles on it, the Big Book's got some occult stuff in it. I will. I so, again, I so appreciate what you're doing. You and I would get along, I can tell already. And our wives are very, yeah, okay. I'm making supper tonight. Is your wife, is your, she's making me laugh. So is your wife as stressed out, as unfortunate as my wife is? Well, it's a little scary because she told me she married me for the entertainment and when she tells me that, it just totally ruins the moment.

It's like, wow, dear, that is, dad, you don't know what that doesn't do for me. My wife married me, I tell her, she married me from my abs and they're gone. So now what?

Yeah, let's not go there. That's right. So I don't know, but my wife, I'd say to her, hey, hon, am I still entertaining?

She looks at me and goes, that's one way to put it. So is that possibly the person that I talked to when I dialed the wrong number? I don't know.

I think I got the office number. Yeah, and her name's Anik and she's a sweet woman, except for her taste in men, she's really good. But other than that. Depends. That's right. Yeah.

That's an old person joke. Thanks. It's true. You have a great day. You too, man.

God bless, buddy. All right. Thanks.

Bye. Okay. Yeah.

He's cracking me up. All right. Hey folks, if you want to give me a call, we have five open lines, 877-207-2276. Okay. You know, at the beginning of the show, I was talking about, um, uh, the 45, uh, let me do this, let me get back to it, the 45 things that communists are. It's so sad. I want to read some more of them because we've got nobody waiting right now.

We've got nobody waiting. I'm going to read, uh, some stuff that in the 40, this is what they said the sixties to do. I'm going to ask you, do you think these things are in place? I was reading some of the articles about these lists because this list is real common list. It's all over the internet. So you could, you know, 45 goals of, of, uh, communism and you'll find it. I just copied one of the lists from someplace because they're all, they're like all copied from the same place, original from someplace and, but some people, what they do is they go in and they, um, they actually, they comment, this has happened on this date and they do a lot of research. I didn't do that, but check this out. Here's another one. Um, discredit the American founding fathers, present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the common man.

That's certainly the case. It's happening now. Be little, all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history in the ground that it was only a minor part of a big picture. Give more emphasis to Russian history since the communists took over. How about that, uh, support any socialist movement to give centralized control over to any part of the culture, education, society, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics. In other words, give all of that over to the socialized system of the government to control it. It's, it is so happening. Okay.

Infiltrate and gain control of big business. Uh, yeah. Google. Um, we all, all these, these leftist, uh, proponents inside of corporations pushing the woke idioodicy. It's ridiculous.

Uh, let's see, how about, uh, emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents, attribute prejudices, mental blocks, retard, retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. Yeah. So you're gonna start saying that, uh, it's child abuse.

I've heard this is child abuse to teach a child Christianity. I've heard this more and more. It's common folks, uh, internationalized the Panama canal. This happened repeal the, I don't know what that one means. The Connolly reservation. So the U S cannot prevent the world court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems.

In other words, what the thing is to get rid of your own sovereignty, have the sovereignty of the world court, tell what the Americans can and can't do. These are all the things. It's so bad. It is so bad. This is what's happening in our country.

Christians. I'm telling you, I keep telling you, you've got to wake up. You've got to wake up. Let's get to mark from Charlotte, North Carolina.

Mark. Welcome. You are on the air. Hey, brother. How you doing? Doing all right.

Hanging in there, man. What do you got buddy? I got, I got a question. Okay. You had, do you remember a guy had called and asked you, um, do, uh, does the Bible say that, uh, acid that we can pray to Jesus? Yes.

Yes. Um, I had, um, and I thought, and I was, and I was thinking when you was talking, I was thinking, doesn't, um, John does question is, does John 14, does that mean, is he saying that when he says, you know, whatever you, uh, John 14, 12, and he starts in John 14, I said, he will believe in me. The work that I do will do also the greater work that in these he would do. And then because my father, I go to the father and whatever you ask in my name that I will do that the father may get to be glorified in the son. If you ask anything in my name, I will do it. Right. Uh, verse 14, 14, 14, remember that if he's saying you can pray to me there, if you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Yes. Also, just so you know, in, for example, in Psalm one 16, four, it says to call upon the name of Yahweh, you know, this has, I called upon the name of Yahweh, Oh Yahweh, I beseech you save my life. So this is a prayer to call upon the name of Yahweh is prayer. Well, that phrase occurs all over the old Testament call upon the name of Yahweh, but it's translated into the Greek to call upon the name of the Lord. And so that phrase means, and so that phrase in Greek is applied to Jesus in first Corinthians one, two, all who everywhere call upon the name of the Lord Jesus. So that phrase, which, which means worship, adoration, prayer is applied to Jesus.

So yes, you can pray to him. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. Cause I was, yeah.

Cause it was that, yeah, that kind of confused me cause they were saying, well, it says, you know, the other, uh, I forget the other scripture where it says, you know, pray to God or, uh, he said, uh, was I guess the Lord's prayer, I guess it is our father in heaven. Yeah. Right. But you can, yeah, you can pray to him too. Okay. You can pray to Jesus.

Yeah. Ask me anything in my name. Again, call upon the name of the Lord. Jesus first Corinthians one, two. Absolutely.

You can pray to Christ. He's got in flesh. Yeah. That's what I, that's what I was thinking because you know, cause I thought, okay, well, he's got and he's equal with God and he can do everything that God can do and he can give sin. I could, I heard you say, yeah, that's one of the things that you use. That's right.

Yeah, uh-huh. You can forgive sin. You can't forgive sins. Did they pick up stones to stone him when he said that? What he said before Abraham was I am and they pick up stones to throw at him John 8 58 through 30 or 60, but yeah Okay, okay. I thought one.

Yeah, it was one He says your sins are forgiven was that John they got picked up his bed. Oh, that's it. Okay. I'm sorry.

Yeah, uh-huh That's right. Oh, we're at a time. Okay. Okay.

Call back tomorrow. Okay. Okay. All right.

All right. Thank you Okay, God bless and Martin from Virginia. Oh, please call back tomorrow What are you gonna say because I could surely certainly use a word of encouragement. Okay, Martin call back tomorrow be well Hey folks, we're out of time. May the Lord bless you Bible study tonight. We'll talk to you later another program powered by the Truth Network