Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network Podcast. Like and subscribe to the Pride your sense of superiority your waste of the time of the Lord has given you And that was I Wrote back and I said wow that was interesting from a previous email I'm praying for you much as long as I'm praying for the lost who stumble across this site if you are an example of Christ Love who'd want to be like you? It is people like you who are responsible for the decline of faith among our young you wreak hate and I discern evil Satan himself is governing your website and you You are a willing puppet may God have mercy on your soul do not Use one word of this on the radio. Okay.

Oh, I think I bet somebody's work Where's uh, this is puppy new new ones here. Let's see. Um and uh, I See you. Oh Man, I love stuff like this I do I could kick out of it really amazes me Matt that you try to denounce the Catholic Church as I do because it's False that they're not Christians. I say if you don't believe in if you believe in official Roman Catholic theology, you're not a Christian Anyway, he goes on.

Let's see he Anyway, chances are you will see Satan. Yes, you Matt Victor and I tried debating you on pal talk Okay To no avail you deny that baptism is needed for salvation. That's correct And other stupid comments you make match you and your multi-million dollar Corporation is just that Wow, that's I have never Had car be called a multi-million dollar corporation. That would be nice if it was true I'd like it then I Could pay Charlie what he's worth, you know You know five or six dollars a month, you know, it would be he's laughing So multi-million dollar corporation says you make a lot of money preaching a different gospel.

Oh, wow I do. I didn't know that I do do have to admit we don't have many that will come listen to you to a good Bible study Okay, that's because people have blinders on they only see what's in front of them. They see they see you with all your lies You know something's wrong with me I enjoy this They they hear you twist scriptures and they fall for it The only thing that is just here is that we have a chance to make heaven you don't What does this what's interesting because the guy complains that I knock Catholicism and then he condemns me a little hypocritical Don't you think yes, let's go on. What does the Bible say about people like you revelation 22 18 19? Yeah, you know being cast out and damned Okay, so Matt keep playing your game and on Judgment Day, you'll be close to Satan Heck Satan may even let you stoke the fire. So Matt it is worth all Is it worth all the money you make now to forsake heaven remember Matt you will die someday then you'll be judged Or maybe God will send his son back before you die.

You are are you prepared? Yeah, not written really well So that was that's pretty good. That's not bad. I like that. Let me do one more and then we'll get at the callers Let's see Let's see. How about Whoa, okay won't read that one. Let's see Mary Whoa, Merry Christmas and get out of Israel you blood-drinking Christian vampires Wow, man, that's awesome.

That is really good with Uh, wow Whoo, that's going I like that. All right, let's see one more I could I was really short this email is for the wise in quotes and ignorant Matt slick I believe as Christians he is wrongfully criticizing Catholics and judging them from facts that mr Slick does not know and isn't capable of knowing. Thank you very much You would think the degree would have taught him something but he stuck that I can't say what he says there I do not care if you don't take my words into consideration, but you do need to know That what all what y'all are doing is wrong and what this organization is Promoting is wrong and I hope God is mercy on you for all all for being the Christians Y'all swear to be by the way I'm a Christian I go to a Catholic Church a place to worship our one and only God you make me sick and Hurts to see the denominations of Christianity fighting against each other Fight the other religions not your own neighbor. Well, too bad. That was pretty good But Roman Catholics are not Christians if they hold to official Catholic theology. That's it. That's my position I will not back down on that because the Roman Catholic Church is is false and I do say that. Yeah, that's right And why because it is All right.

I had a little bit of follow that Yeah, hate mail some of them are really good that was okay wasn't too bad. All right, let's get to the callers eight seven seven two zero Seven two two seven six Ron from Ohio. Hey Ron.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hi. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Okay.

Yes, I can Okay. All right, man, very nice to talk to you this evening I'm talking about those comments that you just read those people are judging you and we're not to judge so You know, that's not right. So anyway, okay my question is Why do you label yourself a Calvinist and where did the different denominations come from?

I? lay my Long, I don't like the term Calvinist, but it's just a simple way of of saying that some people say I hold to Reformation theology And then I have to explain what that is. Sometimes Calvinism people know and it's just a simple simple Short quick way to say it. That's all okay, and So where did it didn't where did the denominations come from? denominations come from people who See things differently in the audiophora in the non essentials and then what they do is they?

Unite in groups that are different. Sometimes the separation is warranted because there are times when people Let's just say deny that Jesus Christ has gotten flesh or say that women can be pastors and elders Or things like that is time to separate when they won't repent from their false teachings And so sometimes you have these denominations that will separate on that reason That's a good reason but sometimes they they separate for different reasons and that's not good and it's a shame It was an embarrassment on the the Protestant nominations because of it Okay, I call myself a believer in Jesus I do not call myself a Christian because I feel that if you label people that will breed division like You know a Baptist opposed to another denomination they're gonna they're gonna get division against each other they're gonna say Well, this is not right and that's right. So what I do is I like to call myself a believer in Jesus and God and Don't label myself as a Christian now. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus says we are to be called Christians It doesn't say Jesus said we're to be called Christians, but apparently you're an anti labeler Yeah, he doesn't say that he also doesn't say I think They hold on hold on.

It also doesn't say that we are not supposed to drive cars either But it does say in Acts 11 26 It says and when he found them he brought them to Antioch and for the entire year they met with the church and taught considerable numbers and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch and Then Paul says yeah, and I do my who who called him Christians Who was the one that called them Christians were the Greeks that were called them Christians were they it's a good question That's a good question and first called Christians and then and then in Acts 26 28 It says Agrippa replied to Paul in short time. You'll persuade me to become a Christian okay, and Now you saw are you saying it's wrong to be called a Christian because Peter says but if anyone suffers as a Christian He's not to be ashamed, but it's to glorify God in his name first Peter 4 16 So is it okay to be called okay? So Peter except Peter Peter accepted the fact that they were being you know labeled as Christians Yeah, what's wrong with that? Oh, okay?

All right, okay? So um do you know are you familiar with the pride of knowledge of the gospel being? Just as bad as like a pride of life the Yes, I see Okay, God doesn't like pride. Okay any form of pride so if you pride yourself in the knowledge of the gospel of how you Done all this research, and how you have built your education up According to the gospel you are being proud Okay, a person is not you But people in general okay, okay? They're getting pride, but into them and God doesn't like pride, so I want to warn people out there Well wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait this isn't your radio show okay? You come on and start telling people what they ought to be warned against on my show, okay? You know God's put me here for a reason I need to be careful of what you're saying and others are saying now the thing is it's okay to be called a Christian and You're right There's pride everywhere among all kinds of people the funny thing about pride like humility It's hard to see it in yourself, but others can recognize it so nevertheless So it's okay to be called a Christian the word Christian occurs three times in the Bible in the New Testament acts 1126 26 28 and first Peter 4 16 so it's okay to be called a Christian And what do you call yourself a believer, so is that not a labor believe?

Yes? You're a believer So it's a little yeah, I'm a believer. I believe I'm okay. I believe and I have faith So you're a doctor right affirm the doctrine of the Trinity Yes, I do okay, so you're Trinitarian good, okay? I'm not a I don't and I don't believe in the Catholic way. I don't think it's correct But you know you are in like me on a couple of subjects, but that's the pride of the pride of the pride of the gospel pride of knowledge of the gospel That's the one that I'm you know.

I'm kind of We have to give me a good good explanation of that one. You mean it should someone say or not sell a person Should this well you? Okay, should they it's okay to say that you've been educated on something But you have a very cool attitude towards it. Okay, that's right.

We shouldn't do that. All right Ron. Hey, thanks a lot Appreciate there's a break.

Okay. Hey folks if you want to give me a call on this interesting Friday after one of the longest eclipses The past 600 years give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six be right back It's Matt slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six Here's Matt slick Welcome back everybody. Let's see three open lines eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven Six and I just want to remind you we're moving over tour to Odyssey.

It's gonna take a while, but we're letting people know and if you want to If you had an idea if you want to join up over there all you got to do is go to odyssey.com odyssey.com and sign up and then look to just do a search for karm Carm and you can sign up and we're gonna be moving stuff over there. So just let you know All right. Let's get to Chuck from Burlington, North Carolina. What's up, Chuck?

Hey, man, how you doing? Thank you for taking my call and Matt. I want to say first of all I am proud of you and a godly way of your dedication of your life To the Lord and of your knowledge.

I would I can't try to argue with you too much I'm not reformed, but I love your show and I love you as a brother. You're great. Hey, appreciate that. That's nice Mm-hmm. Yes, sir, and I mean it.

I mean it and I think God that's one person who likes me proud in a godly way Proud in a godly way. There's nothing wrong with okay My question is I was going into my handy-dandy waffle house, you know, and you know Asian man was coming over door for me and I gave him a gospel stuff and he gave me a track of High-quality business card. He says well Hebrew were Hebrews. I Can't remember all of it, you know, but and I lost the card. It was very well-made There was a little you know business card and on the front it had the eight and on the bottom I had eight with a circle around it Oh, yeah, I didn't forget that repeat that a what okay an H and H with a circle around it And I can't remember all that was said I'm just bringing this up if you know what it is I'm curious. Okay, then above that that was that was at the bottom of card above that was like Two squares like round it off at the end and like they were woven Ropes or something of different color, okay on the back It had a menorah and I had cut some Hebrew word like, you know a Hebrew letter Mm-hmm, but it didn't have much that you could read English and I was just curious But if I ever find it again us honestly, I'll send it to you Yeah, I don't know it is No, I haven't maybe some of our listeners have heard of that because not me right No, you're I don't know.

Yeah, if you were can I ask one more question? You just did Okay, okay Matt Okay Faith is the gift of God. Yes. I know that by act 3 16. I cannot deny that if I say I believe Acts 3 16 is as true as John 3 16.

All right. Um Okay Now acts 14 they and as you try to do we persuade people to believe the gospel Yes, okay. Now this may be a very sticking point I do not want anybody to compete confused about this as listen as God as my witness Okay, so it's faith given to us Okay, you know when the 2nd Corinthians 4 3 Maybe when the light of the gospel is shown into their hearts Now is that faith Well, there's a the faith the ability to believe given to What God grants that we believe lipids 1 29 are believing is the work of God John 6 28 29 He grants us repentance 2nd Timothy 2 25 Yet at the same time we're called to give an answer to everyone who would ask first Peter 3 15 about We're called to preach that gospel to go out there and make disciples of all nations, you know, Matthew 28 18 to 20 so we're called to do these things so How does it work?

How does it work that? That that God ordains God grants of faith and things like that and what we're called to do is try and persuade people So does our effort at persuasion make any difference and I have to say yes It makes a difference, but I don't know how it makes a difference. I can't connect this right little dots from eternity I just don't know for godly mystery. Yeah, and that's fine Yeah, and you know, this is a godly mystery.

Yeah, and as I said if you better than us Yes, that's true. As I say to people God predestines us and he Alexis predestines us cuz that's what the Bible teaches It flat-out teaches it you know Ephesians 1 4 & 5 But right apparently the more we preach the more people apparently are predestined So there's this interaction between us and God in time And it's just beyond me. I just don't know I've tried to solve it or think through I know I can't do it Or think through I know I can't do it. Yeah, I don't know that's urgent said he Spurgeon studied it for five years They said and gave up and he said if you try to figure it out, you'll lose your mind Yeah, and and and you know The ways of god are so far a bit the thick try Yeah, I mean god gave us the bible and he made us curious, right? Yes, and by trying to solve things like this you learn you learn about other things even if we can't solve how it works Amen.

Praise the Lord. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

That's right. Okay Yeah, you know and I'm not trying to cut into you. I'm just Talking with you, but okay. Thanks a lot, man. I'm not reformed.

You know, I'm fighting well fighting. I'm You know, that's all right You don't have to be reformed. You know George George Whitfield Who was reformed You know, he was maybe well, you know in secular books america will tell you he would Historians secular historians will say he was america's greatest evangelist I mean, I know we've had Billy we have Billy Graham, but George Whitfield started it all Yes, and he in the 1800s would preach to sometimes 20,000 people at a time no amplification Amen, and how is he was able to do that? They don't know but the stories are consistent That he would preach and people could hear him Very far away. He had this voice apparently could carry and probably there was locations They were smart about where they would preach and teach and things like that. But hey, and you're right He was reformed and uh, he was a great evangelist beautiful. He was a great evangelist He was a great evangelist beautiful. He's a wonderful lovely Christian, you know He's great, you know and john I can't i'm just you know, I want to say Years ago in the navy. I read the almost christian body to two uh, a spanish man and a girl And they became Convicted the almost christian by Wesley. I ordered a couple copies and I read it but I have to say And you know, I love john wesley, uh, Francis asbury where I lived in jersey like my aunt said Uh every place he stopped to order his horse. He's Spraying up a church, you know, he built a church mether's church but uh the end of the uh sermon Well, I just won't say it okay because I think it's best not to okay but because he's a lovely man He's sure a lot better christian than I Will ever dream to be and that's even in heaven.

I don't mean that better. I've been making it up But he's fabulous. Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that chuck.

So good stuff. Keep listening. Keep calling. Okay Oh, of course, matt. Praise the lord. Okay All right, buddy.

Okay, man. God bless Hey folks four open lines. If you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six Seven six now we have five wide open lines. If you want to give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven Two two seven six the last caller and they hung up want to talk about tarot cards and hypnotism I'll talk about that when you come back for the break, but give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven Two two seven six be right back It's matt slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six here's matt slick All right. Welcome back everybody. If you want to give me a call four open lines eight seven seven two zero seven two two Seven six. Hope you're all having a good friday. I'm looking forward to the weekend And uh, oh just let you know that i'll be off for uh, wednesday thursday friday next week thanksgiving stuff So i'll be on live monday tuesday and that's it and then back on the week after that, but i'll be off next Uh next week to uh, wednesday thursday friday for thanksgiving and stuff like that. All right Let's get to james from north carolina.

James. Welcome. Oh, i should talk about the the hypnotism material cards I'll talk to him about that after i'm done with you.

Okay, go ahead Hey matt, thanks for taking my call. Sure So what I was basically calling about is I I uh, not the most educated person But I I am a believer and I I generally I hear a lot of talk on essential doctrines versus non-essential doctrines. So like If someone were to ask you what the essential doctrines are to you, what would you how would you describe that or answer that? well, i've written an article on this very thing and Uh, i'll tell you but also what they are, but i'll tell you also that you I think should go to the article and read because uh I break up essentials into what's called primary and secondary essentials The primary essentials are those essentials that the scriptures declare with a warning Etc. Jesus says for example, unless you believe that I am you will die in your sins. That's john 8 24 So obviously that's an essential You're gonna believe he's the I am and then for uh, first Corinthians 15, uh, 14 and 17 If christ be not raised our faith is in vain So there's another one that the uh, that jesus rose from the dead and they go on like this There's a few like this And um, if you go to karm and you look up, oh, let's see I can do this right now doctrine grid or the doctrine table.

I think it is And what i've done is listed them out there and you can check it out, but i'll go through some more and so the uh Those two I mentioned are right there. But also, um that uh Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone And we find that in many places in scripture, you know, roman 328 or performance four or five, but in galatians five one through four It says in there that if anybody adds anything you don't have salvation you've been severed from christ And that's what goes on in galatians chapter five. So that's an essential a primary because as a warning And the uh, let's see what else uh, he's got a man and jesus got a man Jesus got a man. He grows from the dead salvation by grace and the gospel is a death bell resurrection of christ because if you have a different gospel You're cursed that's galatians one eight and nine if we are an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to what you preach to You let him be accursed. So the gospel is a primary essential There's only one god in all existence in all place in all time Exodus 20 verse 3 isaiah 43 10 and other verses where god says he'll visit uh judgment upon you for denying that he's the only true god and then you got to be born again without being born again you Cannot enter into the kingdom of god and that's john 3 so three through eight So these are what I call the primaries the secondaries are essentials that are not stated As being essential for example the trinity nothing in the bible says That you have to believe in one god in three distinct simultaneous persons in order to be a christian now You should because that's what the truth is, but it's an essential but I call it a secondary because there's no statement is addressed with it Stating you have to affirm it like there is with the other things Jesus is born of the virgin. Mary is also what I call on the secondary essential Nothing the bible says if you deny the virgin birth You can't be a christian or your faith is in vain or whatever it is Or you'll die in your sins It doesn't say that but it's difficult to justify the two natures of christ without the virgin birth And uh down 14 6. Jesus is the only way to god the father He clearly says that but he doesn't say there's any punishment for not affirming that he just says it as a fact So I call it a secondary essential. So there are actual essentials and I just break them up into those primary secondary.

Um Groupings make sense Yeah, that makes that makes perfect sense. I appreciate you breaking it down like that. I I have like I as far as the essentials go. I've always you know accepted that Obviously the jesus christ is the son of the living god.

He's the one and only way to heaven I died on the cross resurrected for Our sins, uh things like that. So I was just kind of curious about how you how you break down the essentials I've never heard the primary secondary, but that's that's a really good breakdown. I appreciate the information.

Thank you and god bless All right, man, god bless Okay Yeah, folks, that's my uh division. That's what i've done. Yeah Uh, and I don't know anybody else who does it that way. It's not wrong. It's not right It's just it's how I see it in scripture The primaries are those things that are stated specifically in scripture that cannot be denied And and you must affirm but the other sec the secondary essentials don't have that kind of a requirement to it Just not stated as being essential, but they're derived out of the primaries and uh, that's why I do it that way Okay. Okay.

Hope that is helpful All right. Why don't we get on the phones with let's see. That would be brian from minnesota. Brian. Welcome Oh, I keep forgetting to do the tarot card thing.

I'll do that next Hopefully, okay, brian. Welcome. You're on the air I just want to say thanks a lot for all that he's done to Further the gospel and everything. Well, praise god man with my question is about uh, calvinism basically like The hardest thing for me to grasp is like let's say there's a thousand people god just randomly picks five and if You raise your kids. It doesn't matter how you raise your kids or anything like god just has to tickle and for me, that's I I can't grasp that like it's too hard Yeah, yeah, and i'm with you I can't grasp it and I deny it I deny that god randomly picks people I don't believe that so then how how does How does it work then That god work he predestines that he picks according to his will he has knowledge and reasons that we do not There is no randomness with god Randomness means there's no reason for it. It's just kind of random And that would be a saying Calvinists and those in reformed theology never say that god is random But he has his reasons. He works all things after the council of his will eph.

1 11. This means election predestination. It means everything and the bible teaches an election predestination.

It teaches it. I mean anybody who denies it is just denying scripture. That's what the bible says.

So how does he do it? Well, we don't know but it's not random because nothing with god is random Well, it can't be from anything that we do right that's right there's nothing good in us that would merit salvation Would you agree it's like the Yeah, I agree that we're all mad like the way that I see it in the way that I got saved was I started Reading the bible. I was a skeptic after three months um, I had a whole like a full-blown revelation that all my problems in life were A result of not obeying God all of them and still to the day.

It's true mm-hmm So are you making doctrine just curious you're making doctrine out of experience or scripture? No, well, that's just how I how I I got you how I got opened up to start reading and doing what the word says Okay, then it became super uber real So do you think that God was working on you and calling you and speaking to you that way and stuff like that? Possibly like I was I didn't come to the Lord till 33, okay Well, just back to the original question God is not random He always has a reason for what he does and why he does what he does. He doesn't tell us what those reasons are But he's the one in control He's the one who's sovereign.

We're not it's never random. God just doesn't go any meanie mighty mo It doesn't happen like that Okay But then the gospel is somewhat hope God picks you because You can't do anything. You know what?

I mean? Yeah, that's right and but we can do something because if you're saved you can pray and ask God to save others and The prayers of a righteous man a bill much with God as James fives talks about we just don't know how it all works We just don't know and so as I'm reformed and I believe in an election predestination and yet I evangelize Evangelize as much as possible people say well, that's inconsistent. Well, they don't understand reformed theology then but it's not inconsistent with it Paul the Apostle taught Election and predestination. He said that God grants that we believe and grants repentance He said this and yet he was very evangelistic Now people don't put two and two together and so they misrepresent Some of the things of God in the scriptures because a lot of people what they want is just easy Theology easy stuff that just makes sense on, you know kindergarten level first grade level. They don't want to get into the deeper things You think it's partially full Like there's scriptures. I'd say if we draw near to God that will draw near to us Of course, that's what the Bible says and it's true You know, are we able to draw near God draws it?

Jesus says you can't come to me unless the father draws you John 644. You want to hold we got a break? Okay, hold on. Hey folks to open lines eight seven seven two zero seven two two Seven six be right back You It's Matt slick live taking a call at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Here's Matt slick All right, welcome back everybody Brian. Are you still there?

Brian? Are you there? Can you hear me? Yes, I can. There you go. All right.

So did it answer the question sufficiently? Yeah, well like when you say God God tells us if we draw near to him he'll draw near to us but then you use another passage and I like God has to do that That's kind of that's a little confusing Well, Jesus says you cannot come to me unless the father draws you John 644 and John 665 he says you cannot come to Christ to Christ unless it's been granted to you from the Father So he says draw near to God and who's he talking to? Because this is what's always important is When he's speaking, you always have to know the context and draw near to God is in Hebrews it's used and he's talking about those who are always already believers and Then he he does this in Hebrews in more than one place So he speaks there and also it says in James draw near to God He'll draw near to you cleanse your hands you sinners and purify hearts you double-minded And purify hearts you double-minded. He's being a generic Tell him draw near draw near to God go go do that It's a command just like God says everyone everywhere should repent act 1730 because it's what you ought to do You should do it and so do it that's the command but God is the one who grants us those good things and There when this is where we get into the gray area. We just don't know how it works How does God work in the drawing in our actions our wills the knowledge of God?

You know prayers of believers for unbelievers. How's that work? We just don't know and so what we do sometimes I just say well that says this it says that I believe them both They're not contradictory, but that's just how it is and we move forward Okay All right, then god bless boy All right okay, so hypnotism and tarot cards a Hypnotism may or may not be good depending on how it's done and what the purpose of it is There are a lot of Christians who say don't do it because it's opening your mind up to the demonic stuff I don't believe that's necessarily the case.

I think that there are times when you can do that I used to self hypnotize when I was younger when I would study and I would just go into an altered state Kind of super in depth and I would study for hours like that. I can't do it anymore but I'm older but you know, so what is that kind of Voltered state and that's the question that needs to be discussed etc tarot cards. Stay away from them. They're bad. They're evil No, Christian should ever be mixed up with them. Tarot cards are a door to the occult. Stay away from them All right.

Let's get to Paulette from Ohio Paulette. Welcome. You're on the air Hello Hello, um, I have heard a couple times listening to the program That it's just curious. Jesus's birthday is not the 25th Christmas Day That's correct. And that was the first time I ever heard it.

Yeah. Do you know when it is? No No, it's probably the spring. I think I've heard spring. I've heard April. I've heard September Different scholars have proposed different things looking into the Bible for hints about it But I don't know the day.

I just don't know and I've never been able to discern it from scripture Okay. Yeah, it was just like what and I I never heard that before and I'm thinking well Who said it was the 25th to begin with then? You know, I don't know it was a Roman Catholic Church that adopted that day in order to turn a pagan holiday December 25th Good day. That was the idea because it was a winter solstice and So Saturnalia which is a pagan idea of worship of celebration on The the day when of the winter when the day started getting longer Saturnalia, which we get the word Saturday. We get the day Saturday from that.

So it's just all it was and it was an attempt to sanctify something that was bad And so it became December 25th is when we traditionally celebrate it, but we don't know exactly. Okay Thank you, and I love your program. I listen to it every day as I go to work and come home I'm like, I I just think you're awesome. Thank you for doing it. Oh, man I love to hear that cuz you know, yeah, I just think you're awesome I've just picked up so many things that maybe I can't get Ordinarily, you know, it's like a lot of the questions the way you answer them how you do things. I'm just Thankful for you.

Thank you so much. Well, give God the glory. Praise God, you know, praise God. Yes. Yes Good. All right.

Well, you pretty much kind of answered my question and I appreciate it Okay, and have a thankful Thank-givness giving thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

Okay All right. Let's get to Jose from Texas. Hey Jose, what's up, man? Hey, man, how's it going? It's going. So what do you got man?

What do you got? Yeah. Hey, I have a question I have a question and you can tell me how to answer. I have a friend by the way.

He's a One that's been a costal. Mm-hmm. And that being said he's not he's a non-trillionarian so he the question he asked me is is Is is it essential for a Christian to believe in the doctrine of Trinity and I would say, you know, of course, I I am how much I'm a Trinitarian.

I believe it's taught in Scripture but anyway, so You know, it's my best friend and whatnot. So how can I answer that question without hurting? You know his no, I just heard him. Excuse me.

Just kind of with the kind of way It's one thing call it. Well, you know, I don't want to have that argument with him with how can I say no nice way that he's not and they in a You know a heresy about a heresy. He's in a heresy. I Don't know there's a nice way What's a nice way to make him feel really good about his heresy So it's hard to to say there's a nice way to do it But as a you know, men to men we can say things and so just tell them lovingly patiently as kindly as possible But the truth he's he's in a non-christian belief system And he denies the truth of living God because of his oneness And that he requires baptism for salvation in the name of Jesus And that you could lose your salvation and you got to keep it by being good. And so this is non-christian theology And he's denied But yeah, yes, he's denied. Yeah, that's what he Yeah, that's one of the things that he had we've been conversating He had you know addressed that that issue that I need to give you that time because I was baptized in the wrong way He doesn't understand.

I don't buy into that. No, he's an occult So anyway, I have a lot of information on Carm on oneness theology on baptism issues And the doctrine of the Trinity and I'll be in another debate on it on Tuesday night. Okay coming up next week, but Okay, there are there's a lot of truth in the doctrine of the Trinity where oneness just deny certain areas of Scripture the Trinitarians don't deny the the idea of God's oneness the father's only true living God as scriptures say you go to 1st Corinthians 6 or John 17 3 and things that they bring up and and I'll address those but they don't address the other ones that I'll bring up They ignore them they dismiss them and this is a problem because they are brainwashed in their occult system and denying the true living God and One of the ramifications of this is who who then is the person of Christ? Who is the person of Christ now? here's I'm gonna give you a verse that you might want to look at and just remember and I talk to him about and this is a John 6 38 John 6 38 Jesus says for I have come down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me So that's Jesus talking But Jesus says he came down from heaven not to do his own will right but the will of one who sent it So who sent him from heaven?

The father of course the father sent him what has to be there with him to be sent explain that All right. So in other words, they're they're following a fall of Jesus. They're they're not pretty well On on paper they are because they're denying the true incarnation and they kind of hint towards what's called the story in ISM and they Sometimes I'll say that the flesh of Jesus was praying to the spirit of Jesus out there and the right. Yeah Yeah, I got a lot and so that means there's a denial of the true incarnation and the hypostatic union and so this is where it gets into problems because I think I can get more complicated talking about it the nature of the two the properties of both natures described with a single person and how the attribution of both are Perceived through the human and how then is the sacrifice of divine value?

and so these are questions that That I like to address with oneness people and they often don't understand how to Deal with all of this Okay, okay All right. No anyways, thank you. And I hope you have a good Thanksgiving and we'll talk to you too, man God bless. All right All right, let's get to the last caller and that would be Tommy from Utah. Hey Tommy.

Welcome. You're on the air Hello, can you hear me? Yes, I can loud and clear.

So what do you got man? Okay, it's a little noisy. I drive a truck for a living. And so I am a little hard to hear you but I just called a comment about you know, when you Talked about that. I Thought the whole idea of Christian hate mail to you It's mm-hmm So ironic it's not even is it Christian to have hate mail? What do you mean the people who are the haters or for me?

Yeah. Yeah, I mean Yeah, because they said you hate mail and it's like Okay, I wasn't saved till I was almost 56 years old and I'm not a giant in knowledge and I've only been so it's been like seven years since I've been saved but God has gifted me with some things like he gave me Amazing amazing men that discipled me and he gave me insight to his word that and understanding his word that Is the only explanation is that God's Spirit is within me and he told me these things that I would not ever Know with the amount of time I have in as a Christian Oh, hey, can I ask what church you go to? Yeah, what's that cowboy church in Cabo, Utah Okay, what's up? No, it's okay cowboy churches for the most part of pretty good Yeah, when you say God tells you things and stuff I want to I also want to hear with this out of the Word of God that the Word of God is primary and That this is what you're looking to primarily the Word of God for truth Not oh, yeah, and I guess that's my hope that's really my whole point is that When people are telling you that they're heretical or whatever Aren't we to be like the brains and we're supposed to research it. We have a yes, we do we have a responsibility ourselves to look through these things to examine these things and to have discernment pray for discernment to make these things true and then I mean to tell what is true and what's not true and and beyond that I'm I'm just studying in the book of Acts right now, and there's just all this over over Stay it's always stated over and over and over about the unity of the church and to love each other and to be yep So I guess I really have a hard time understanding how?

People that are Christian is 30 40 50 years and they treat other Christians the way they do Yeah, it to me seems like so on Christian. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.

That's right That's right. Oh, but there's the music so we got to get going, but I'm with you buddy. Okay. All right Have a good weekend. Thank you. All right Hey folks, there we are out of time.

There's the music. It's Friday. Have a great weekend everyone I hope that you build it to me on Monday by God's grace. I remember Wednesday Thursday Friday. I'm out doing Thanksgiving stuff and And we'll talk to you on Monday. God bless. Have a great weekend. Watch 11. Another program powered by the Truth Network.