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So what do you got? I got a question. Why can't I reverse the teachings of the world faith teachers and reverse it back onto them? Or why none of them will call me and ask me, hey, don't you want me to ride my private jet with me? I know you got to do ministry work around the world. I want you to be led to your commitment. So why can't they sell a $10 million fee into my life and watch if nothing will happen until God touches it and then be a miracle?

Let them expect a miracle from God. Okay. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I got a question. I got to go. Wait, wait, wait. What's your question?

Okay. That's my question. Why can't I reverse the same teachings back on them and see what God will do in their life? Because they're making money. They can make money. They're not going to sow seed money to your ministry or my ministry, for example.

They're not going to do that because that gives money away. They want to get money. And so they're trying to get money. That's what the name it and claim it, blab it and grab it people are about. And a lot of them think that what they're doing is actually right. They think that they are teaching the truth and stuff and that God always wants you to be healthy and wealthy and prosperous and all that kind of stuff. And so, you know, it's not the truth. And a lot of people are being deceived by it.

A lot of people. And you're not going to sow seed faith money to you or this ministry. People should be, you know, objectively, they should be supporting this ministry because we reach out with the truth of the gospel into all areas of life with orthodoxy and truth. So that's worth supporting. But people don't want to really support as much that kind of thing because you don't get rewards for it except in heaven.

But you don't get rewards here. They want it. They want money and wealth and health and prosperity now. So what the faith teachers are doing is teaching narcissism. They're teaching kindergarten theology.

That's what it is. And also, all these rich, worth faith teachers, big mansions and all these homeless people. Why don't you just let them sleep in a couple of these rooms like they got plenty of spaces with these poor homeless people who are getting kicked out in the streets and homeless and wrong people.

Hey, why don't you just come into my big mansion and let me stay for a couple of weeks in here. Yeah, I hear you. It's a fair question to ask.

Why is it that they have multi millions dollars of this? And I've heard them say some incredible things. And maybe after we're done on the phone here, I'll start reading some of the stuff that they've said. Some of the heresies that these guys have said, like heresies from John Mazzini, Charles Capps, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Crouch, Kenneth Hagen, Benny Hinn, E.W. Kenyon, Joyce Meyer, Fred Price. These are heretics. They're false teachers. Murdoch. I don't know who that is, but there's a lot of them out there. He's one of those people. He's on TV too.

He's one of the world's biggest Murdochs. Yeah, there's some out there. And I just can't keep up with everybody. When I do research, I have to stop everything I'm doing, so to speak, and I just work on one thing. And then I write five, six, seven articles on it or more. Then I move on to the next thing. And there's always phone calls, there's emails, there's radio, there's debates, there's hundreds of other things I've got to do. And so I can't go as quickly as I'd like to. If I had a staff, it'd be great.

A big staff. But it's what it is. It's okay. So, you know, just move forward and that's it.

So, okay buddy? But what I'm saying is, we cannot get mad sometimes at these false heritage because outside the true church are not doing their job preaching to people with the true gospel. So when these things happen, they get upset and criticize these false teachers. But if the church who got the true gospel will do their job and go out and vandalize the world, this mess won't happen. People largely here in America are not interested in evangelism and furthering the gospel. Mostly the Christians that I'm aware of, my experience, most congregation members are mainly interested in just providing for their family, which is a good thing. But not really supporting the idea of evangelism, the defense of the faith and stuff. And there are churches that do that and there are people, you know, they're out there. But for the most part, the Christian church isn't interested in that. For the most part, the Christians are interested in just becoming secure. And that's it.

And then they go to church on Sundays and then the unbelievers take over the world. So, that's what's happening. Alright. Thank you, sir. Keep up the great work. I'm trying, buddy.

Alright, man. God bless. That's Alberto from Georgia. If you want to give him a call, all you've got to do is dial 877-207-2276. Let's get to Anthony from Des Moines, Iowa. Anthony, welcome.

You're on the air. Brother Matt, how are you? I'm doing alright, by God's grace. I'm doing fine.

So, what do you got? Well, referring to your previous discussion with Alberto, I had watched Charles Capps on TV and Kenneth Cole, basically everybody that you had mentioned. And I always had wondered, is there any scriptural evidence because these guys talk about, well, we have creative power in our words. Because then they talk about how God created everything, he spoke everything into existence. But basically, that kind of threw up a red flag for me because they're saying that we have the same power that God has.

And I just don't. Right. God, we cannot usurp God's power. He shares his power and his glory with nobody. Yes, that's true.

But what they're going to say is lies from the devil. You said Charles Capps, right? Is that who you mentioned?

Actually, he was one of the first books I read and then I watched a few episodes of him on TV. And he's very persuasive and what he says kind of makes sense, but in the back of my mind, the Holy Spirit's telling me there's something here that's not quite right. You know what I'm saying? Yes, trust me.

I know. And he has said, for example, faith is a substance, the raw material. Faith is a substance that God used to create the universe and he transported that faith with his words. Faith is a substance of things, but you can't see faith. Faith is a spiritual force. And he also said, God framed the world with his words.

You can't build without substance. He took words, faith-filled words were God's substance. Here, essentially, is what God did. God filled his words with faith. He used his words as containers to hold his faith and contain that spiritual force and transport it out there into the vast darkness by saying, let there be light.

Here's more heresy from this false teacher. He said, in this Abrahamic covenant, God is establishing legal entry into the earth. He is giving Abraham access to himself. This covenant, God gave legal entry into the earth through Abraham. Until that time, God was, to a certain extent, still on the outside looking in. He needed a legal entry through man so that he could destroy the words of the devil.

It's just stupidity. How about this? I love this one. This is the best one. Check this out.

You're going to love this. This is from Charles Capp's authority in the three worlds. Tape 258-259, emphasis in the original.

Anyway, quote, notice that when Jesus said, I have finished the work, John 17, 4, we know that he had not finished the work. How about that? Where does that come from? That comes from the devil.

Well, I know where it comes from. I can't say it on the radio, but... He's such a false teacher. He actually said it.

When God said, when Jesus said it's finished, it really wasn't finished. Who is this guy to speak like this about Christ? That's blasphemy.

That's blasphemy. Well, and then I also, my wife was a big fan of Kenneth Copeland. We used to watch him a lot.

He's a heretic. He's got a feel-good message, you know, and all that smiling and stuff, you know, smiling. And feel-good deals. So I got some CDs from him, and it was something about the power in your words, or you can have what you say.

Yeah, all basically the same stuff. And when you listen to it, it seems to make sense. I mean, because he's very persuasive. He's a salesman. He's telling a bunch of BS. Yeah, he's a slick salesman is what he is. Yeah, and he's not a match slick salesman either.

That's right. Hey, you want to know what he said? You want to hear some of the things he said? I got it right here.

Take this out. Let me tell you something, Matt. You just reminded me of something.

One time, sorry to interrupt, but I got to tell you this because I don't know if you heard this before, but one time I was watching some stuff on the Internet, and I can't tell you who it was, but this guy was basically doing like what you're doing. And I don't know how I got onto it, but anyway, he got onto a thing where Gloria Copeland was saying, and this just made me laugh out loud. She says, you know, as a Christian, you can control the weather. And she said, one time me and Kenneth were sitting out by the lake, and a tornado started coming down, and Kenneth said, in Jesus' name, get out of here.

And she said, that thing just went whoop, whoop, whoop, up into the air, and it went away. But then she said, you know, he's a pilot. She said, but we won't fly in storms. And the commentator was saying, well, if you've got power over the weather, why won't you fly in storms?

Right, or go stop the droughts in certain areas. Yeah, they're charlatans, right. They're charlatans. So this is what Kenneth Copeland has said. He says, heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west.

Consequently, it must be a planet. And I got more, back with a break. I'll read some more, but we'll move on. Okay, buddy? See you, brother. All right, man. Yep.

All right. Take a call. All you got to do is dial 877-207-2276. Let's get right back after the break. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone. Welcome back to the show.

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Hello, Matt. You'd asked me to call again tonight. I had called about my grandkids hopefully being able to get into school without being vaccinated, and you told me about getting them tested for immunities. So I inquired about that today at Diagnostic Center. They called it an antibody test.

I was just calling to update you. They called it an antibody test, and they said you can get a request from a doctor to get it, or you could just order it yourself, which is probably easier because some of the doctors are leery and called the doctor and said, oh, well, antibodies could change and so on. Well, anyway, so then I just thought, well, probably better to purchase it yourself unless you can find a doctor who would write you a referral to get it. And so for $69, you can get it. It's expensive. I thought it was going to be way expensive.

I thought, oh, wow, this is going to be a barrier. But no, $69, and so that's good, especially if there's multiple kids. You want to take it. And so I just wanted to update on that for you. Okay. Appreciate it. I guess next is just the schools, how they would accept it.

So I'm going to call around some schools tomorrow and just make up some certain scenarios and see what they say. If you go to CARM, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G, and you go to forward slash COVID, you can go there and you can see an example of an exemption letter. And it's there, and people can copy it and print it up. But a lot of people don't know that the vaccines were developed and tested using human fetal material, human abortive cell usage. Oh, yeah, you said that.

That's right. I have the documentation. It's right there. You can click on it.

I'm looking at doing it right now. And it comes up to the chart that I found, and that's it. So that's another thing, is to do that. Now, you've got to understand that what's happening in our government and our society is as we move towards socialism, you have less and less freedom. And so the more that the government gains control, the less freedom we're going to have.

And the more control they have, the more they're going to assert that you have to comply with certain things. This is why a lot of people don't want the COVID vaccine, because they're resisting this movement of control. There's no reason for children to get vaccinated. It's just not there. Not for this. Other things, sure, but not this, because the studies show that the children, it's ridiculous.

They don't get it, hardly ever. It's a control thing. It is. It is. But anyway, I just wanted to update you and thank you for the information. I can let you go on to your other callers and just thank you.

You're welcome. It's not a good path. So now I'm researching and doing stuff. Hopefully it'll work.

Different school districts will say yes and some say no, whatever. Just see what happens. Okay. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Okay. Well, thank you. Well, God bless.

You're right. All right. All right. You too. God bless. Bye-bye. All right, folks. We have four open lines. If you'd like to give me a call, 877-207-2276.

Let's get to Mila from Charlotte, North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Thank you. Thank you for taking my call. I just have a message that is bothering me since I talked to my Catholic friend.

But it was, I mean, I'm not totally with her, but it was a question that I couldn't answer exactly, certainly. And it was, I know we're safe. We received Christ. He already paid for our sins.

And my belief is that we all go to heaven. But there is some people that they didn't have, or they received Christ, they've been safe, but they're still dealing with some sins, like lying, like drinking, trying to fix their fornication or things like that. What happened when they died during that process and they didn't have a chance yet to ask for forgiveness for those sins?

Did they go to heaven? You're talking about Roman Catholic theology, and it's false. What the Catholic Church is teaching about this is not true. So Christians don't have sin. And in one sense they do, one sense they don't. See, Jesus canceled the certificate of debt, the sin debt at the cross, Colossians 2.14. And so there's a sense in which Christians don't have sin. There's another sense in which they do. I mean, of course we walk around and we make mistakes, we sin, we do things. But from the eternal perspective, Christ has canceled our sin debt, Colossians 2.14. So in that sense we don't have it. In another sense we do. It's called in theology the now and the not yet.

Okay? Now, so I'm not saying it's okay to sin. I'm not saying it's okay to just go out and do everything bad you don't repent and it's okay to go to heaven.

I'm not saying that. But we've got to understand that our confession of sins is not what saves us. It's faith in Christ that saves us, not an act of confession. If someone were to sin and is unaware of that sin and then dies without confessing that sin, that person is a Christian and goes to heaven, even though that sin hasn't been confessed. Every person commits a sin and forgets to repent of it because we do things, we forget we've done it, and then that person dies to go to heaven.

Of course it does. What if another person does something on purpose, just in rebellion, whatever, stupid, does something sinful, and is angry and doesn't repent for a few hours, a day or two, and he's going to probably. But before that, chance he dies. Does he go to heaven?

Of course he does. Our position in heaven is not dependent upon our confession of repentance, though some cults in Catholicism and other groups say, yes, it is. You have to be able to confess in order to go to heaven.

Well, that means then that you have to say words, you have to do certain things, and that's what enables you to go to heaven, and that's not the case. We confess our sins because we're regenerate, we're saved. We confess and repent of them because we're regenerate, because we're saved. So in one sense, no Christian dies with his sin because in that eternal sense, Christ has paid for all of them and the sin that's canceled, 1 Thessalonians 2.14. In another sense, yeah, we still sin during the day, we still make mistakes, we still do things that are false, but all those sins have been paid for, and so they're taken care of. The dependence of whether or not they're forgiven is not on our action but on Christ's action. And a lot of people don't get that because in Colossians 2.14 it says Jesus canceled out the certificate of debt, having nailed it to the cross. The certificate of debt is a sin debt.

He canceled it to the cross. It's not canceled when you believe, it's not canceled when you get baptized, and it's not canceled when you repent. You are justified when you believe. And justification is different than debt canceled. Okay, we can talk about this more after the break.

So this is just a theological issue to lay several things out for people to make sense of it. Okay, so hold on. Folks, we'll be right back after these messages, please. Stay tuned.

Welcome back to the show, Myla. Are you still there? Yes, I'm still here. I have a couple more questions.

Sure. Okay, just correct me if I'm wrong. The Bible says no adulterers, no homosexuals, no liars, no brothers go to heaven. Drinking is not a sin. In this case it's not a sin. So a lot of people don't know that Jesus' first miracle was making wine in John 2 and Proverbs 31, 6.

It says, give strong drink to the man who's dying and wine to the one who's in distress. And so drinking is not a sin. Getting angry is not a sin. But you can do these things in a sinful way. See, God even gets angry, and Jesus drank wine. So it's not a sin automatically.

People aren't familiar with this, but nevertheless, getting drunk and being addicted to it, that's sinful. The practice of these things, because what it says here, what you're quoting is 1 Corinthians 6, 9. It says, or do you not know that the unrighteous, that's not believers, the unrighteous, okay, they will not inherit the kingdom of God. Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate, homosexuals, thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers, swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. See, that's not, those aren't Christians. Okay, I got it wrong. I thought we were talking about Christians. Okay, my last question, if I have time.

Sure, go ahead. My last question was, okay, after we die, I know the Bible says we're going to heaven. I'm trying to see if I understand this correctly. When we die, we go to heaven, we are with Christ. Are we in the New Jerusalem, the New Jerusalem that has come down, or we're in heaven, heaven? It looks like we're with the Lord because 2 Corinthians 5, 8 says to be absent for the body is to be home with the Lord. And so when we die, we're going to be with him. The New Jerusalem is something that is future, and it's supposed to be like 1400 mile cube. I don't believe that it's a literal New Jerusalem, like of that size. It means something else.

And the mathematics behind it is for numeric value and some examination. But that's future still, whatever that's going to be. Oh, so we are in heaven, heaven. We'll be with the Lord, the Lord is in heaven. That's what Jesus says, to be absent for the body is to be with the Lord. So that's where he is, we're going to be with him.

Now, and this is my last question, I promise. When Jesus says that he's coming and going to rapture all of us, dead, hurt, and then us. If he's coming to rapture us from the dead, and we are in heaven, would he want to rapture too, if we are with him? Those who have died already, the first ones who are resurrected are the ones who died in Christ. This is 1 Corinthians 15, 35-45 talks about that. And also 1 Thessalonians 4, 16, chapter 5, verse 2 talks about these things. So the dead in Christ will rise first, and then we who are alive and are mentioned will be caught up together to meet him in the air. And that's 1 Thessalonians 4, 16-17.

So that's what that is. We're going to be with him whenever the rapture occurs. The dead in Christ rise first, and then the other will be raptured. Yeah, but if we are with Christ, the ones that will die, the ones that die, they're with Christ. They don't get raptured. That those who are dead in Christ, who have died, are with the Lord. They will receive their resurrected bodies before the rapture occurs. And then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together.

The sisters are coming to rapture the living one, but the dead one is bringing the spirit to reunite with the new body. Right. Yep. That's right. If the dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with him in the clouds.

That's 1 Thessalonians 4, 16-17. Okay? Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. See you.

All right. Okay, let's get to let's see Dylan from Toledo, Ohio. Dylan, welcome.

You're on the air. Hello. Thank you. I will say I believe in prayer, and I believe the scripture that I am calling to ask you about is written in red. So it says to you have made this a den of thieves versus a house of prayer.

Right. So how do I do my best to dwell in the house of prayer? Well, he's talking in the context of the Pharisees who were changing the temple work and all that synagogue work, all that stuff that was all combined into legalism and self-righteousness for money, for gain, and for power. And that's why he says that you've made it a robber's den.

So that's what they did. He's clearing out the temple right in the context. Jesus entered the temple and drove out those who were buying and selling in the temple and overturned the tables and the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves. So this is Jesus. He was getting violent. Now violent, not in the sense he's striking people in the face, but it says he drove them out. And we know from other scriptures that he made a cord of rope and he swung it and he drove them out of there. And a lot of people, oh, no, Jesus is the one who'd like occasions, dude. He wouldn't do that. Yeah, he did. But nevertheless, he overturned their tables and the money changers and he drove them out.

And then that's what in that context says you're making it a house of robbers. That's not you. You don't have to worry about that. You're not sitting there trying to sell the gospel and sell to make money and put people under bondage, as so many positive confession people are doing. You just want to pray? Just pray. Don't worry about it. Just trust God. Just seek his face and just pray. And you'll be fine. Bless you.

Thank you for taking the call. Now, is the Lord's Prayer a safe prayer? Well, I would say that the Lord's Prayer coming from Jesus, that would be a pretty safe prayer. Now, unfortunately, a lot of people use it just as something to repeat. I'm not saying don't repeat it, but you've got to be careful not to get into this idea of simple repetition as though that prayer is going to somehow be helpful.

But I'm not saying don't do it either. It's the attitude. Like in Catholicism, they just repeat it. They just say it.

Let's say the Our Father. Then they repeat it. They do it with their lives a thousand times. Well, the idea of prayer is not just simply repetition but a heartfelt connection. In fact, that actually speaks to me when I say this because lately I've realized some of the prayers I say to my Lord are repetitions because I pray for my children every night and I pray for my wife every night. Well, I've been doing it for years, and I find sometimes I'm just kind of repeating that, and I realize, wait a minute, I've got to focus in it and be in that prayer. And so, you know, just a little something.

And so that's what I'm doing. It's like, okay, I'm not just saying it to say it again. I'm saying it because it's true. I need to say it. I need to be in that prayer to my Lord. And so this is the idea of, say, Our Father of Heart in Heaven, how long be thy name. When you say it, if you want to, that's fine.

Just say it with meaning and truth, not just recite the words, if that makes sense. Yes. On a scale of one to ten, it makes ten sense to me. I felt the connection while speaking with you. So I do appreciate it, and that's all the questions I have. All right, man. God bless, brother. All right. God bless. God bless. Okay.

All right. Let's get to Tom from Des Moines, Iowa. Tom, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, man.

Hey. Hey, I'm kind of going through Ephesians, and I got to, kind of going back through this, chapter 2, 11 through 14, he's talking about the one becoming, or the two becoming one. Right. Therefore, remember that you once uncircumcised by what is called the circumcision made by the flesh by hands, that at the time you were without Christ being aliens from the common wealth of Israel, strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, but without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus, you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ, for he himself is our peace, who has made both one. Who is the both? The Gentiles and Jews. Okay. Verse 11, therefore, remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who were called uncircumcised by the circumcision. So it's uncircumcised with the Gentiles, often sometimes referred to as dogs, in a pejorative sense. So in Christ, because he fulfilled the covenant requirements, he died on the cross, and were justified by faith, he brought both groups into one.

They were justified by faith in Christ. Hey, hold on. We'll get back to it after the break.

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877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276, here's Matt Slick. All right. Let's get back to Tom from Des Moines, Iowa.

Tom, welcome. You're on the air. You still there? Yeah. Okay. Yes.

We got cut off there from the break, but did that help? Yeah, I think what got me was 15, having abolished in his flesh the enmity that is the law of commandments contained in ordinances so that to create in himself one new man from the two. Mm-hmm. Thus making peace. Right. The Jews and the Gentiles were, in a sense, at odds with each other because the Jews had the right of circumcision, they had the oracles of God. And the Gentiles did not have that. So because of this, there was a disparity, an enmity, a hatred between them because the Gentiles thought the Jews were whacked and the Jews looked down on the Gentiles.

So the enmity is removed or the hatred is removed by the blood of Christ who unites both groups into one by faith. Okay? Okay.

That makes sense. Okay. Thank you. All right, buddy.

God bless. Bye, buddy. Okay. Hey, Forks. Let's try this again. That's it. A Forks.

How about Forks? Four open lines. Give me a call. 877-207-2276. Let's get to Sophia from Idaho. Hey, Sophia. Welcome.

You're on the air. Hi. Hi. I have a question about- I'm going to ask you, where are you in Idaho? Just before you get out, I just want to know where you're from. Hi.

Sorry. Where are you from? Where in Idaho? What city? I live in Holmdel. Holmdel? Okay. Not too far. Yeah.

I'm in Nampa area. Okay. Sure. No sweat. No sweat. Okay.

You're down here. All right. Okay. So what do you got?

Okay. I have a question about Ephesians 4, 26 and 27. I have KJV Bible, it says, be ye angry and sin not. Let not the sun go down upon your wrath and neither give place to the devil. So my question about it, is it saying that I should stop being angry before I go to bed or is it saying that I should not let the sun go down upon my wrath as in I should stay angry at sin?

That's a tough one. Now this is often used in marriage counseling and the first half of the verse here, you know, be angry and do not sin. So God gets angry, but he doesn't sin. So anger is not automatically sinful. We can get angry, but we're not to sin in the process of being angry. And so what are we be angry about? We're to be angry about unrighteousness and sin and rebellion and things like that. But do that without sinful judgment upon people and do not let the sun go down in your anger. Don't let sin have a place in your heart and if you're angry, then take care of it. If you, you know, like I'm angry at our government for, you know, opening the borders and letting hundreds of thousands come in and then paying them and flying them into other cities in the middle of the night, that bothers me, makes me angry. Now, but it persists every single day because I don't like what the Biden, the Brandon administration is doing.

I don't think it's good and I think it's unconstitutional, et cetera. Now that doesn't mean though that I hate them, but it does mean that I pray for them and I pray for them in two ways. One an imprecatory Psalm, you know, God, if they're not, you're elected and you're, you know, get them, discipline them.

But the other is save them. And so I can still be angry about what they're doing in their sinfulness and rebellion against God. But I'm doing it without being angry. And so when I talk about this with marriage counseling, if a couple is angry at each other and it depends, there are some times when you just have to let things sit for 24 hours.

You just do and you've got to work on it and that sent you late in the sun without your anger. I get that. But for the, the principle is no, we want to make sure that we have things settled before we go to bed before, uh, you know, we retire for the evening. We don't want it to disturb our sleep. We don't want to become part of our psyche and we don't want it to rule over us. And this is the idea that is being talked about.

Okay. What specifically would you say that this verse is talking about? Like a lot, the majority of people say that it's talking about when the sun goes down, stop being angry.

But then other people will say, well, it can have multiple meanings. But what do you believe specifically the first is talking about? I think it says when the sun goes down, try not to be angry anymore. The sun goes down, let the sun go down on your anger. That's just, that's it.

Try not to let it happen. Okay. So is it also talking about to be angry at sin? Well, sin is an abstraction.

Or is it? We're angry at people who sin. Sin is, you know, if someone lies, are you angry at that lie?

No, but you can be angry at the liar. So we're so just be angry at sin and you know, we can be dissatisfied with central behavior, but it's behavior of people. And so we need to pray for them. So the idea here is we don't want to let anger rule in us.

We don't want that at all. And there's a reason for it. It says in Ephesians 4 31, which is just a few verses later, let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ has forgiven you. When I do marriage counseling, we talk about these verses and it's important because bitterness is something that occurs to people when they've been wronged. So whether you believe it's wrong or you, it really was wrong. Either way, someone believes he's wronged or she is wronged. They hold onto that offense from somebody else and it makes you bitter about that person. Bitterness leads to a wrath and anger and judgment and hatred. And so this is why Paul is saying, don't let these things be in you. Put them away, learn to be forgiving because Christ has forgiven you. In our anger, we want to make sure that our anger is not against someone who has offended us. But we want to make sure that we are forgiving them the best we can, as much as we can, because of Christ and his work in us.

That's what it's talking about. Are you there? Hello? All right. Okay.

Hope that helps. All right. Well. Yeah? Yeah. Oh, it's, it's similar to what I've also heard before, which I agree, I agree with it. I think that 26 and 27, they're also referring to, to not compromise with evil, right?

You don't want to compromise, right? Right. Well, it doesn't say evil. Be angry with murder and stuff.

It doesn't say that. That's the thing we've got to be careful with because what he's talking about is put on the new self, verse 24, and the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth. Therefore, laying aside falsehoods, speak truth, each one of you with his neighbor, for we are members of one another. Be angry and yet do not sin. Do not let the sun go down in your anger. Now, the context is about people around you and with you. And do not give the devil an opportunity. He who steals must steal no longer.

He's talking about people in your community, in your, in your area right there. We have reason to be angry with people, but we need to let it go. And we need to do that. We need to go to the cross and say, Lord, I have been wronged and I need to forgive that person. Teach me how.

Don't let the sun go down in that anger. Okay. Yeah.

Are you there? Okay. Oh, can you hear me? Yeah.

I can hear you. Mm hmm. Okay. Yeah.

Well, thanks for that answer. Sure. You're no problem.

You're welcome. Yeah. All right. Well, God bless. Yeah.

God bless you. Okay. All right. We'll see you.

All right. Let's get to Marie from Richmond, Virginia. Marie. Welcome. You're on the air. Hey. Hello. Can you hear me?

Yes, you can. Hi. Okay. Good.

I feel real silly asking you this, but I've been dying to ask you for a while. Four years ago, my mom passed away in November, and then two months later in January, I had a heart transplant. Whoa.

You had a heart transplant? Really? I know. Oh, yes.

I'll tell you why. You talk about so many blessings before I even got there. It was awesome.

Wow. Oh, my gosh. Goosebumps. But what's happened is my stepdad and I have been living together since she has passed, and my nephews gave her these cute little stuffed cherries with the stems and everything, and it's been hanging in the kitchen. Then the other day, I was working on something for dinner, and I kid you not, all of a sudden those cherries flew across the room and hit me, and I was telling my son about it. I've read where we're not allowed to communicate with the other side, and my son said, Mom, I think that's a demon, and my response was, get away from me in Jesus' name, because I didn't know. I mean, can that be from Mom, or was it a demon thing?

I would not think it was from your mom. The Bible says that they can't cross over from Paradise to Hades. Now, that's in Luke 16, 19-31. Now, to be absent of the body, to be home with the Lord, that was your mom, a Christian?

Yes. Okay. So she's probably with the Lord. Well, she wasn't. I'm sorry.

That's all right. She wasn't what? She wasn't going to church actively. She was when I was a kid, so I don't know what you would call that. Well, there's only two possibilities. She either was or she wasn't.

She's with the Lord or she's not, and we just don't know. But I would not say that that event is from God. I would not say that.

I have no doubt what you're saying. Those things can happen, and I know of certain instances and stuff and stories. I had a few myself, but I have to ask you questions now. We only have a couple of minutes, but you are going to church, right? Yes. Okay. Are you married? You got a husband? No.

Okay. So you're going to church, and what I would do if I were you is call the elders of the church. Hopefully, it's a good church, and you have the elders come over to your house and pray through the house. I need to pray through the house because if something like that is happening, it reminds me of the issue of an occult door that's been opened. So you just want to pray through the house. Don't worry.

Don't be afraid, all right? But the idea is to pray through the house. You can do it yourself, but it's really good when the elders come through. And I've done it in a few homes, and I just take oil and just touch, just very lightly, just touch the walls and the doors and just pray out loud and talk to my Lord.

It's not like some magical thing, you do this and it's going to work. It's a consecration of your home to the Lord, and you need to look for any doors that are open, spiritual doors. Like are there any occult things in your house, like Ouija boards and stuff, crystals that sit on your head? No, oh my goodness, no. Okay. We're almost out of time here. We're going to talk about this some more.

But if these things moved across the room, then a door has been opened of some sort somewhere. We could talk about that. Okay?

Well, I would like to talk more about that. Call back tomorrow. All right? Thank you. Sorry about that, Murray.

We're out of time, though. Hey, folks. Wow. Good stuff.

Good, interesting stuff. If you want to continue listening, it'll be tomorrow. And by His grace, we'll be back on the air then, and we'll talk to you then. I hope you have a great evening. God bless everybody. See you next time. Bye-bye.