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on KARM and COVID stuff. I'll tell you, interesting stuff. We're having a little bit of trouble with one of the articles.

It doesn't want to format properly. Even though I do what's necessary to make it work and fix. I think I know what I'm going to do here. Anyway, we'll get that going and I hope to hear from you. So give me a call.

877-207-2276. I want to hear from you. Wow, boy, a lot going on in our government. It's kind of odd because I'm not a politician or I don't study politics and stuff like that.

I'm a theologian and yet this stuff has come up more and more. There we go. It's fixed now, Charlie. Open it up, edit it. I'm going to give you some access to that so you can do that too. OK, now, four open lines.

877-207-2276. I want to tell you, I started today working on an outline on the COVID vaccines and everything. This is what I do. People don't know this, but it's not a big deal, but what I do is I produce outlines in Word. I do indexes, I do table of contents, and I have a way of doing things so that on the left-hand side of the screen, the contents of what is in the document can be seen. I can go through it. I use it mainly for debates.

It's turning out that these things are just very useful, period. I'm probably doing 20 or 30 outlines, maybe 20. I don't know how many. I started today on COVID. What I'm going to do is take all my information that I produced so far, put it into this Word document with an index, with a table of contents, and I'm going to then save it as a PDF and put it up there for anybody to download. It'll have active links in there that you can go click on things and go see stuff, and every now and then what I'll do is I will update that maybe once a week or so so people can download it for free and distribute it and have information that's handy. It'll be all kinds of stuff in there.

It'll probably be 30 to 50 pages long, and it's there. I'm just trying to do research. Also, I love doing theological research.

I did a couple of hours today. I did stuff on the Church Fathers. If any of you have any information where the Church Fathers contradict each other on interpretation of certain verses, let me know because that's what I started doing.

The reason is because so many Catholics like to attack the sufficiency of Scripture and say that without their tradition and their Church and their Church Fathers, you can't understand the truth because they are in line with the Church Fathers. Well, I spent some time today, and I went through a particular verse, and I found out the Church Fathers contradict each other and what it means, and this is interesting. So I'm doing this on varying verses, and it's kind of slow going, but I get to do that, and I'll be working on some articles on that as well.

I'm just doing research. Man, I'm doing a lot of research, a lot of research. Okay, so what I want you to do is give me a call, 877-207-2276. Let's get to Chris from Indiana. Chris, welcome. You're on the air. Well, thank you for taking my call.

Sure. My question, I got a friend of mine. He always talks to me about there's a secret society. There's lizard people living under caves. What people? Lizard people. They're called the Anunnaki. Yeah, they're the Anunnaki, yeah, uh-huh. Do they exist? Because he's saying they're committing like satanic rituals where their searing children, they'll like drain the adrenaline from them. Adrenal glands, yeah.

They can offer eternal life that way or something. I don't know. Yeah. And like he says things like Biden is not really Joe Biden. Someone's even knocked off and they've cloned him. Well, this is awesome stuff.

I wish he'd call me because that's awesome. Well. Well, like Hillary Clinton's not alive really.

Well, I could see making a case for Hillary and Clinton and Obama and Pelosi and Schumer and Biden all being substitute alien reptiles in human skin, I mean, because they act like it. So that can work, you know. Really? I'm kidding, dude. I know. Well, I'm just having fun. I mean, wait a minute. This guy really believes this stuff.

I know he does. Yeah, it's called the Anunnaki where reptilian aliens are interbreeding with Nazis in underground cities till the point where they're going to get enough power and then they're going to take over. And then there's Bohemian Grove on the East Coast and there's some legitimacy to that one, though, where there's a lot of occult rituals going on.

What's it called? Bohemian Grove. Bohemian? Bohemian. Bohemian what?

Grove. What's that? Well, it's supposed to be, I love this kind of stuff, but it's supposed to be a secret society that's involved in Satanism that is seeking control of the world. And then there's the issue of the Masons and how Washington, D.C. is laid out in a pentagram and let's see what else is there. There's so much stuff I've heard over the years. I can buy into it.

But the Anunnaki, I love that so much. I just want to believe that there are reptilian aliens interbreeding with Nazis in underground cities so they can take over. I mean, it is such a great conspiracy that it's like, man, you know. Well, what about the cabal? What about the cabal? The cabal is supposed to be another secret organization like the Illuminati. Yeah.

I don't know. See, here's the thing. If you want to hide, you hide in plain sight. And that way you can't be discovered if you're camouflaged. Okay, camouflage works out of the forest. If you're at all camouflaged, they can't find you, right? Well, disinformation and real information, you can't tell what's what. So who knows? They could be real.

It could not be real. But if you want an interesting book to check out that discusses some of this, I read it years and years ago, decades ago, Enroute to Global Occupation. And that was written, I don't know, 25 years ago or so, I guess, and it is really interesting that you can read that kind of stuff. And then there's the Raylians. The Raylians are aliens that are walking among us for another planet, stuff like this.

Oh, yeah, it gets – I love this stuff. Do you think that stuff is true? The only thing I would add that I think might have some actuality, but then I cannot discern truth from error, would be the cabal Illuminati, stuff like that, with some of the masons. I remember going into a Masonic hall once when there was nobody there. I just pulled on a door and opened it and walked in. And I went up – this was my own eyes. This is not with anybody else. This is not an anecdote. This is what I saw and I read with my own eyes. I went up into the area, the sacred area, I guess you call it, all these chairs in a huge room, and they had a pulpit kind of an altar kind of a thing where chairs were inside of it.

It was elevated a few, I don't know, foot off the ground kind of thing, they don't step up into it. And there were two books there and I opened them and I read, scanned through, and I just happened to find where it said Jesus is not God, and where another book said Christians were a problem, they need to be gotten rid of. And so that's what I read with my own eyes. Oh, yeah? Wow. Yeah, uh-huh. So who knows what's going on. Well, I know, but he's like, he says it like real, and I don't really respond because I don't really want to, because I really want to laugh. I'm like, dang it.

Yeah, just make sure that you don't share any food, okay? So the drugs that are whacking them out won't get into your system when you start believing in the Anunnaki. Anunnaki, even the word Anunnaki is an awesome word. Can you spell that? Yeah, T-H-A-T. But if you want me to spell Anunnaki. Oh, okay. Anunnaki, let's see.

Let me see. How do I spell Anunnaki? I think it's A-N-A, Anunnaki. I think it's A-N-A, Anu, no, here we go. Yeah, A-N-U-N-A-K-I. I think that's what it is. Let's see if I got it right.

Oh, two Ns, A-N-N. What's the difference? Like the Anakin or the Anakin? Nephilim, Anakin in the Old Testament are the most probably the offspring of the half-breeds between women and fallen angels.

Is that a reality? Well, there's debate on it. But I affirm that it was fallen angels and women. And the reason I do is because of Genesis 6-9 that says that Noah was perfect in all his generations.

His generations, his ancestry was clean. And when it talks about the sons of God who came down and took for themselves women, some people think, well, the sons of God has been really powerful people, but that's not how the term is used in the Bible. So it does seem to be that there was something going on like that.

And that was probably why the flood was instituted by God to wipe them all out. And then some, this is just theories here. And one of the theories is that demons are the released spirits from the flood when their physical bodies died because they always want to inhabit bodies. And then there are fallen angels, which are different than demons. So these are just theories that some scholars have gone through and analyzed the text to see. They don't know. Okay.

Because he talked about demons. I'm really like angels and I guess demons, but I'm not sure that they have, I mean, angels can take physical form. Yes. And then not, I mean. Yes, yes they can. Yeah. People say, well, it looks like they could only occupy bodies. That's what it looks like.

Yeah. It says an unclean spirit goes out and there's the issue. There's fallen angels. I've done an article on this and there are unclean spirits. There's demonic forces. And we don't know too much about them because the Bible doesn't tell us. So all we can do is say, well, here's some of the theories with this. Here's some of the theories with that. And I just give that and say, but we don't know for sure.

If we can entertain angels unaware, then I guess we could, it doesn't mean they're good angels or bad angels. Well, yeah, technically, logically what you said is correct, but we don't know that is correct. So that's the thing. All right, buddy. We've got to go. Okay, man.

There's the break. All right, man. Thanks. All right. Okay.

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Bye. I am so much telling people, especially since March of 2020, Matt, I have been just telling people about Jesus, telling them the Gospel. Sometimes I'll get into these quandaries where it's like, I'll run into Christians, Matt, and I'll ask them, hey, are you telling people about Jesus?

And usually, Matt, they'll say, well, of course, well, of course. But when I bring it to my local church group and I observe, there's not a whole lot of Gospel talk to our surrounding communities. And one of the push-backs that I've gotten was because they say, Bussman, I don't have the gift of evangelism. Now, this is a Christian. I don't have the gift of evangelism. So when I read Mark 16 and Matthew 28, the Great Commission, I don't find where Jesus said, unless you have the gift of evangelism. You know what I mean?

Is that? Am I missing something? So what stops Christians?

I guess my question is, what stops Christians from telling the Gospel to their surrounding communities? Well, I actually, in college, for my social studies or social science bachelor's degree, I did a study on this very topic. I had a theory. Wow.

Yeah, I did. And I had a theory about it. And my theory turned out to be wrong. I'll tell you what the theory was. And I still got an A in the course because it made sense it was a theory. It made sense, but it didn't turn out to be correct from the data. And the professor said, excellent job.

That's how you learn. Very good. You got an A. Okay. My theory was Christians did not evangelize because they were not grounded in their faith and knowledge and having general answers.

And so they were intimidated and didn't want to study. It sounds reasonable, right? That seems viable. Yeah, that's very reasonable, Matt.

Yeah. And so it turned out that's not the case. And so I was wrong about that. And I also found out in there that 80% of the Christians were functioning Roman Catholics.

Being good was what was needed for salvation. And so I don't remember what the actual data showed, but I remember the data showed that my theory was incorrect. And it didn't do enough. I would have had to have gone through and developed questions to find out what the real issue was.

But hey, get ready to graduate. And so I don't know exactly, but I think part of it is they don't know the faith. I think it's part of it. The other part is that they're just not confident. And I think another part is they don't see it done and they don't know what to do. I think they're just mostly flat out afraid. I think they're just afraid.

And I'm not knocking them. It's intimidating to go up to a bunch of people and start witnessing or to your coworkers and things like that. And I think what has to happen is people need to be encouraged and they need to understand something very, very important. When you witness, you are going to mess up.

That's just how it's going to be. And I know that because in every single instance, except for one that I've ever witnessed, and I messed up, and that means there was this one time I thought I did everything right. Now that doesn't mean I did.

I think I did. And so it just goes to show, not to use myself as a great example of anything, but even someone like myself, I messed up. I mess up a lot. And people think a lot of times that if they mess up, they're not good a period at evangelism. Well, no, it's just, it's okay to mess up.

So when they fail, their failure causes them to think twice about doing it or trying it a second time or a third time. Right. Okay. That makes sense. That does describe the human condition because we hate to fail, don't we? Yeah.

Yeah. And in my case, I'm too stupid to know when to quit. And I just keep going, you know, okay, well, I messed up that, let's just try it again. And so I have the gift of obnoxiousness and stupidity.

And so apparently it works out. God can use it while he's rubbing his forehead, shaking his head, looking at me. But as far as others go, I don't know. And I would just encourage them and say, no one's going to do it perfectly. In fact, this is not just a say it as an illustration. This actually is what I actually believe that if any of my friends or radio people come out and they, you know, meet me here and we go out witnessing, I don't want to be too public about it because you're going to see me really mess up and it'll lower their opinions of me quite a bit because yeah, because you know, I like it when people go, yeah, you're great, Matt.

If it goes away when they meet me. And so I like the, uh, the other stuff, but, uh, it just goes to tell you, you know, it, and plus there are different ways of, of being good witness. You know, you can be a good mechanic and you do an honest job and you tell your friends why you're doing what you do and that you are a man of integrity or a woman of integrity, things like that, and that you do what's right before the Lord. And that is a very powerful witness, particularly when you continue to live it and not just say it once, but live it.

That same car keeps coming back to you because you've been consistent in your fairness and in your great work. And when you'll be interjected, Hey, I do this because this is what I say, Matt, and the listeners to the great radio program, um, this is what I do is I serve a, a higher power and I will meet him one day. And so that's why I'm doing the service so well.

Hopefully you have been satisfied with my work on that kind of thing. And then another thing that I do, because I work, I work in service, okay, I'm a, I'm a customer servant, uh, here in Ohio and what God laid on my heart, Matt, and all the listeners, feel free to do this, feel free to do this. It was such a great idea that it had to be God, that I'm just not that smart, but right around when, right before Easter, God said to me, and it was so clear, so calm, it was such a wonderful idea, take a piece of white cardboard and take a sharpie small and just make a button. And this is what I want the button to say. And I listened and he said, just write down these words, ask me about Jesus. And I said to the Lord, I said, should I put a cross with it?

Should I put some kind of branding? He said a smiley face, just a dot dot with a little scoop on it. And I am not kidding you, Mr. Flick. I have had such a great response from that little piece of cardboard on my work. There you go.

And it sharpened my understanding of who I am and crying, okay, so I monitor my behavior, my words, but the response has been amazing. Good. Well, praise God.

See, there's a way to witness. Hey, buddy, we got to go, man. Appreciate that. So keep up the good work. All right.

All right, man. God bless. Hey, folks, three open lines. Give me a call.

877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Flick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Flick.

All right. Welcome back, everyone. Hope you're all having a good day. And if you want to give me a call, three open lines, 877-207-2276. Charlie from North Carolina, welcome. Hey, you're on the air. Hey, buddy.

Kenny. Okay. A person entering the US illegally, I heard that they can have rights immediately, like they can vote and the kids can go to school and they get work permits. Is that true? I don't know. I don't know.

It's just something I haven't studied. I get so infuriated when I watch this stuff on TV, knowing that the federal government is purposely breaking our laws and flooding our country with socialists who don't even know our language, and we're coming in against the law. We already have laws in place, and I believe it's a power play in order to control our government and control our people and to get Democrats in for socialistic control, turn us into a communist state ultimately. That's my opinion. Yeah. I think they want to eventually, they want all those votes. I don't know when they can vote, if they have to be vetted or what, but they're just counting on all those votes for the Democratic Party, I believe. Yeah, they are.

It's always the left that does underhanded things to gain power. They're ungodly and untrustworthy. So I don't have any problem with people coming into the country.

Hey, come in. Just do it legally. That's all. Learn our language and that's it.

Learn our language. You know, I lived in San Diego for many years, and I'm pretty good with Spanish, and I've worked at a few jobs where I had to speak Spanish, and we regularly, I've regularly encountered people who have been in the country for years, never spoke English, and were illegals. Yeah.

You know, I don't blame them for wanting to have a better life. I don't. I get it, and I remember talking to somebody, and this really bothered me once at a hospital. This woman was pregnant, and she had three kids, and she's pregnant, and a man sitting next to her, and it was not her husband, and he was not the father of the children, but the father of the one she's pregnant with, and there were three different fathers with the three different children, and she didn't know where they were. Wow. And I asked her how long she'd been in the United States. She said eight years. I said, do you speak English?

And she said no. This kind of thing is a problem, and it was not that uncommon. So they want a better life, but then if I go to Germany, and I'm going to live there for 20 years, one of the first things I'm going to do is sign up for German language lessons.

I'm going to learn German. Oh, right. Yeah.

That's what I would do. I mean, talk to somebody. Yeah.

I'm in their country. Okay, bro. Appreciate that.

It's a frustrating thing. See you later. God bless. All right, man. God bless. Oh, boy.

You know, what do you say? Let's try this. Let's try David from Iowa. Hey, Dave.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Well, doing all right. Doing all right. Hanging in there.

What do you got? Well, it was a Saturday. I was listening to the station, and they were talking about these giants that are being built, and they're computerized. Have you ever heard of them? No. Giants?

Giants? So they're giant robots being built? Yeah, and they're computerized, and the station I was listening to, they were talking about that they're wanting to build these throughout the country, and it's kind of like portraying into Satan, and I guess you step in this cage, and they scan your body, and then they can project it up on the giant. It's like several stories high. I have no idea about that.

This is an interesting show today, Anunnaki and giant robots. We're going to get there eventually, but right now, I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe they'll flood the country with them and then program to all vote socialist. Yeah, no, I Googled it, and it's an actual Thursday. They got one actually built. Okay. What do you Google to find it?

Well it was on YouTube. Giant robots? Yeah, just giant robots. Giant robots.

Okay, well, yeah. And they actually have one built already, and they had one of the TV news reporters step in the cage, and it literally scanned his body, and then it projected it up on the computer, or on the giant. It just sounds like a gimmicky kind of a thing, but other than that, I wouldn't know what to... I'm reading stuff about giant robots.

They'll probably end up taking over the world sometime, but right now, we love them. So I don't know what to tell you. It was a real steal when they had the fighting robots and stuff like that.

If you read the Isaac Asimov, the science fiction series Foundation, they have robots in there, which are pretty cool. But no, I'm not aware of this, so I'm not sure what to tell you. Yeah. Okay.

I know that the station I was listening to, they were very concerned about them, because it's... I don't know. I can't remember now what they all said about it, but it kind of got me thinking, because it's like I tell my girls that someday we're going to be fighting robots. You mean like Pacific Rim stuff? The movie Pacific Rim? I don't know. I just... I know I brought it up on YouTube, and I actually saw, and it's like several stories high, and the arms move, the head moves.

It doesn't walk around or anything, but it's stationary. Okay. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah. I don't know. It's not something I've heard.

Maybe the cults will use them to go door-to-door and evangelize, I don't know. But for now, probably not. Okay. So, that's sort of tell you here. All right. Well, I appreciate your... I like listening to your program. I've learned a lot. Well, I'm glad you are, because we do get into some odd stuff.

Yeah, you're a very patient man, too. Call my wife up and tell her that, because she's a really thick man. But she doesn't know how wonderful I am. I'll do that. Yeah.

She doesn't know. I'm wonderful. Yeah. Yeah.

Very patient. Yeah. Okay. Well, I enjoy listening to your program. All right. Well, God bless, Dave.

God bless you. I appreciate that. Interesting. Yep. Thank you. You bet.

All right. Let's get to Erica from Iowa. Erica, welcome.

You're on the air. Hi, Matt. Hi. Hi, Matt. Can you hear me? Yes, I can.

I hear you fine. Yeah. So I have a question about when people are on their deathbed, I have heard that they'll interact with or claim that they're seeing folks who have died before them. And I'm wondering, is there any biblical backing for that? I'm not aware of anything that shows that doing deathbed conversions is seeing things on your deathbed. But it might be, because something in the back of my head says something like that happened, but I can't recall it. But I do know of, in fact, my own mom, when she was in hospice for the last two weeks of her life, having renal failure, my dad said that one day he was there with her one evening and she asked him, who's that standing next to you? And then there's another friend, and there was nobody there, there's another friend we know who had a very grave illness and passed away from it, and she was incapacitated. And right at the end, minutes or hours, a couple hours kind of thing, or maybe it was even minutes, but at any rate, before she passed away, she sat up in bed and was smiling and was looking up towards a wall, up high a little bit, smiling. And then just fell back, and that's right, that's right, fell back and was gone. And then there's Voltaire, who was a rabid anti-Christian a couple hundred years ago, and he hated Christianity, and there's the story goes, there's a Christian nurse taking care of him, and she reported that as he was approaching the last breaths, the last couple hours of his life, he was screaming, because he said there were flames coming to him, and they were coming for him.

He was presenting the gospel, and he died without it. And then I have a friend who was a, he works dialysis, and he told me one day about this woman who was an elderly woman, and he said that she was in her chair, and had like 10, 12, 15 patients, whatever it is, simultaneously, and this woman said, the wall's on fire, the wall's on fire, and I interrupted, and I said, and she passed away, didn't she? And he paused, he goes, yes, she did. And there was no fire, but she was seeing fire, so yeah, there's a lot of anecdotal stories. Sure, absolutely.

Yeah, I was curious, my grandfather went through it before he died, and, you know, my grandmother is going through it now. Hold on, hold on, I want to hear, I want to hear, I want to hear, whether the break, okay? Okay.

Because this is good. Okay, alright. This is interesting stuff, so hold on, alright? Hey folks, we'll be right back with Erica from Iowa, and talk about, you know, that stuff. And if you want to call about that, give me a call, 877-207-2276, we'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276, here's Matt Slick. Alright, welcome back everyone.

Let's get back on, on the air here with Erica from Iowa. Welcome. You still there? Hi. Yep, still here. Alright. So you're going to say something.

Go ahead. Yeah, so, you know, as I was asking before the break, just looking for any biblical support when, you know, when someone's dying, some of the things that they say they see. And, you know, I believe it, I believe, you know, my grandfathers went through it, and they talked about seeing those who've passed before, and, you know, and then they slipped away in peace shortly thereafter, and, but I was just curious, you know, if there was, you know, the scripture to kind of support that, you know, so, besides the resurrection, I mean, obviously that's a pretty strong scripture.

Yeah, well, they're, yeah, can they meet, then John, Matthew 17, there's people alive after death in First Samuel 28, but, yeah, deathbed conversions kind of stuff, and seeing things with deathbed, something's there, but I can't quite remember in the Bible. Maybe someone will email me and let me know. But we do have, and after this next call, after you, after two calls away, we've got a guy who's a paramedic who has a story on that, so it'll be interesting. Oh. Alright? Cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's great.

Let's get to the paramedic guy. Alright. Okay? Okay. Alright. Have a good night. You too. Thanks a lot, Erica. Alright. Let's get to Karen from Wake Forest, North Carolina.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt. It was really more of a comment of encouragement. I was just listening to the gentleman before Erica, just saying, why don't Christians evangelize? And I was saved, thought I was a Christian, but was saved five years ago, six years ago. And I would, my heart would beat fast, and I would just dry mouth the thought of sharing the Gospel, sharing the Gospel, kind of like I'm now ringing a live radio station.

I will be flanked, I'm a little terrified. But a verse that changed it for me was Romans 1.16, because I realized when we say we're self-conscious or we're embarrassed that we're really ashamed of the Gospel to some extent, if we truly believe in the power of the Gospel, we truly understand that Jesus brought me out of the pit into his marvelous life. And of love of others, it's to share that with them.

It's life with them. And the power is not in me or how I say it, but the power is in the Gospel. And it's the power of the Gospel that changes people.

And we are going to mess up, and we shouldn't flatter ourselves, think our performance has anything to do with it, because quite frankly, God has used a donkey and a rock, and it's nothing to do with us. And it's just obedience. And I think that's where I knew I needed to share the Gospel, because if you love me, you will obey me, Jesus said. And I knew my goal was to obey him, but I felt like I wasn't equipped or I wasn't going to do this very well, when in actuality, I've got nothing to add to the Gospel.

Yeah. Just do the Gospel. I've got nothing to add to God's grace. It's just the Gospel. And if you're talking with somebody, you know that they're hurting and they're lost, they're where you be.

Just out of sheer love and mercy for them, however bongled it is, however simple it is, give them the Gospel. Right. Oh, that's right.

Just give it a go. Yeah. That's right.

God is the one who anoints the Gospel. It's the power. That's right.

It's the power of his Word. Yes. That's right. Yes.

So it sets us free. Amen. Thank you so much for your church.

I just wanted to bring and encourage those that are nervous about doing that to focus on the love of Jesus and the love of others and the Holy Spirit will speak right through them. That's right. Mm-hmm. Thank you. God bless you for what you do. Thanks a lot, Karen. God bless. All right.

Good stuff. So far, it tried to get four open lines, 877-207-2276. Give me a call, folks. Let's get to Jesse from Charlotte, North Carolina.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How's it going? It's going.

It is going. So what do you got, man? I just was hearing you guys talking about deathbed things and I've been a paramedic for a really long time and I have several stories, but one that I always go back to was we had gone on this call and it was a lady who was older, sitting on her front porch, real severe shortness of breath. One thing that was interesting was my partner was an atheist at the time and I had been a long time Christian and so I wasn't really ever looking for stuff because you'd be tired at night. You know, you wouldn't be thinking biblically.

You'd just be running calls. Right. We went on this call and she was there and her eyes were closed and she was like in real severe respiratory stress. We went to pick her up. Soon as I touched her, she stood upright, opened her eyes, put her arm forward and started saying, beautiful, I don't deserve this. Thank you.

It's beautiful. And, and I just kind of was like, okay man, get on a gurney, wasn't even really thinking about it. And then she said something again and all of a sudden I kind of looked at her and then she just like kind of fell and I grabbed her and she went limp in my arms. So we laid her down on the stretcher and I looked at her and I looked at my partner. I said, is she breathing? And we, so we, you know, real quickly put all the gear on her and stuff and sure enough she wasn't. And she was like completely, we did everything possible like we're supposed to do.

Never had any response or anything, but when we put her on the monitor, she was already physically, which is like, you know, flat lines, which was a little odd for somebody that was talking a few minutes ago. And it was funny cause it was just like, all of a sudden it just like hit you. Like you were kind of like looking at somebody that was peering into something. You didn't get to see it yourself, but you kind of got to see the reaction of somebody getting to look into something. And afterwards, afterwards, my atheist partner said, did we just see something just, you know, we did and you know, years later we would talk about it sometimes and he does actually go to a church now, but you know, it was just one of those things where I, you know, you can't impart it to somebody else. You had to bend there, but it was a moment that for sure in my heart, you know, I had one.

I used to, I've been a Christian for a while and I used to tell God, which I'm careful what I asked for now, but I used to say like, let me see a burning bush so my faith would be strong, you know, and instead he showed me other things that were different, but not exactly what you asked for, but still it was something that built my faith. Well, I got a question for you because I know a guy who was one of the first responders on 9-11 and I think 20 of his paramedic team group, whatever you want to call it in the area, he's one of five left, they've died from asbestos and stuff, but anyway, he told me that, that he and his partner would go to different houses in that area. They would get called to drug houses and there'd be people who are dead and people who are comatose or whatever, and they would triage the ones who are alive. He got really good at telling who's dead, who's not dead pretty quickly. But he said 11 different times that he's had what he said were dead people sit up when he's working with somebody else and in a weird voice say, you can't have him or you can't have her.

He's mine. And then this person would fall back. Oh my gosh. Gave me chills. Have you ever seen anything like that? Well, my burning bush is a whole nother story about a patient that actually said those exact words to me, said you can't have her. But that was one that was a young lady in a house and I say this was possession, young lady in a house and when we got there, firefighters and police were holding her down and she was just like growling at all the first responders. And so I came in the room and again, it's two o'clock in the morning, tired, not really thinking biblically, just thinking aggressive patient fighting with us. But she would all of a sudden change and be like, what's happening? Why are you holding me down? I'd say, okay, man, just stay calm.

We're trying to help you. But I noticed something really odd with her too. And that was that when I would put her on the cardiac, I put her on the cardiac monitor and when she was like growling, cause she was going back and forth like, you know, like she'd be this like fighting patient that we'd be, you know, and then she'd be like this scared person. But when she was fighting us, her heart rate was 80 and perfect, which is weird. And then when she was, when she was like, and this is on the cardiac monitor, like it was slowing down and speeding up. And so I really thought like you couldn't do that to yourself.

I mean maybe psychologically somebody could tell me that somebody could do that. But so it started, so then one time when it was there, I tried to talk to it, you know, I said, it looked at me and it said, you can't have her. And I said, so where do you come from? And it said, somewhere you can't go.

And I said, so what are you? And it looked at me and like in a snide way, all the answers were weird to me. It said, I'm an assassin.

And I kind of like, it like hit me, I said, so you just drive people crazy until they kill themselves? And it smiled real big. And then I said, where? And I said, what, what, what do you call it? And it said, we are zero.

I never made anything of that biblically, but it went back and forth. And one time when she came to, she was like, what is going on? And I said, I don't know, but baby you're possessed. And so she told the story that she was watching like ghost shows, you know, like shows about like whatever. And she said, she thought she heard something in the house and then next thing she knew, we were on top of her and she was on the floor. So I, we, you know, prayed in the back of the ambulance and then she never changed back again.

Well, that's good. I know there are lots of stories of people like this, people who've been possessed. I had an encounter once with someone and that was freaky, but you know, I'm always interested in these NDEs, near-death experiences, where they see things and stuff. And the ones that have really interested me the most are the ones of people who were born blind and they've never seen, just never seen. And they'll have an accident or be in the hospital or something.

And this one I read about, had an operation, the person died on the table. And then when they brought up this person back, they had to do the, whatever they do to bring them back. This blind person started describing what he saw. He says, now I understand what you're talking about, what seeing is. And he described his friends in the hallways or the waiting room, wherever it was, could you recognize their voices?

And he was describing things, there was just absolutely no way he would have known. And so when you have those, those are the ones that get me that, okay, this is really good evidence that something's going on. Yeah.

I've definitely just over the years had different experiences where I know something was up, you know, different senses and whatever. But I just wanted to share those stories just because I think that they're, we're hearing, I don't know. If you've got any more call back, let me know. Okay. All right. All right.

And there's the music. All right, buddy. God bless. Bye. Hey, that was interesting. All the more reason why we need Jesus to save us from our sins, isn't it?

Because there's a terrible judgment coming for those who don't trust in him and the presence of Christ forever, if you do trust him. Hey folks, may the Lord bless you by his grace, back on here tomorrow, and we'll talk to you then. We'll see you. God bless. Have a good evening. Another program powered by the Truth Network.