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Let's see, March 17th, 2021 for the podcasters. And it's a lovely Wednesday. I hope you're all gonna have a good evening and the rest of your day. And if you're listening, because I'm talking to you, I hope you enjoy the show today. If you wanna give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276, same as always.
You have five open lines, give me a call. Let's see, we are working on the schools. We're gonna be working on those for the next few months. That's just a heads up, changing it to a new format, new lickety-split kind of stuff. And for those of you who have signed up, be patient with us, please, and we'll work through that, all that stuff, and they're still there now.
And let's see, if you wanna check them out, you can go to, just go to forward slash, or carm forward slash schools, I believe. Let me check it out. It's, yup, and it should just bring you to the information you need if you wanna check it out. And we're gonna be rearranging a few things so that the login's a lot easier and things like that, because the site's still new, and we're modifying and adjusting. We've had trouble with the navigation menu, as many of you are aware of. And apparently, there's a company that produces this menu, and only on CARM is it having troubles.
That's what they said, it's just, they can't figure it out. So we may move to another menu altogether. And we're talking about that today with a webmaster. Also, folks, we're going to Israel.
Israel dot, excuse me, carmisrael.com, if you wanna check it out. If you sign up by the end of the month in March, then you pay, I think, $500 deposit. But when you do pay for the final trip later, then you get $100 off.
That's if you sign up by the end of this month, March, and get a DVD, I think. And also, just to remind you, we're gonna have Joel Kramer, he's a very knowledgeable archeologist, to take us around and show us stuff. Not only are we gonna have a very knowledgeable tour guide, but we're gonna have an archeologist.
This doesn't happen with too many tours. We're gonna get this archeologist. So because Eric Johnson is a friend of his, it's arranged. So if you're interested in that, and my wife and I should be going, and it's all planned, and there you go. You can check it out at karmisrael.com. Okay, give me a call, give me a call, and we can talk, 877-207-2276. All right, so some of you may know, I've been writing on social justice. And I've written, I don't know, maybe 25 articles. I've got a social justice dictionary. I've got an article called Sliding Towards Sodom.
And it is about the fall of our country, and its degradation, its movement into moral apostasy. And there is, in the book of Jude, let's see if I can find it, the book of Jude. No, I'm not Jude, but Judges, excuse me. I'm studying Jude right now. And it says, I think it's 2125, let me see. Everyone did what was right in their own eyes. Yes, it's Judges 17, six.
It occurs in Judges 21, 25. Now, I've been talking about this for a little bit, but I want you to give me a call, okay? Four open lines, 877-207-2276. So I'm trying to call the Christian body, at least the listeners that I'm able to influence into prayer about our country and about what's going on. We have a man in the office of the president who obviously has maybe some early forms of dementia. The next in line is Kamala Harris, who's a Marxist. And we have Pelosi, who, I don't know what's wrong with her. And we have all kinds of stuff going on.
We're left, socialism being pushed, taught all over the place. And, excuse me. And I know that a lot of you don't want to hear me talk about politics.
Well, that's just the way it is. Politics is in the Bible. And so we talk about it scripturally because it is there. Now, we've got to understand something, that it's already revealed in scripture. There's a phrase, and everyone did what was right in his own eyes.
Now, if you go to judges and you do a search for that, you can find out what's happening. Basically, what we're seeing here is that, is that, how do I say this without being too strong? When a nation, Israel is the nation, when a nation turns its back upon God, usually what happens is the nation dies and becomes subject to foreign powers. And that the people inside the borders become very oppressed. The ones who are then taken over. The reason they're taken over is because God has removed their blessing from them. Our country was founded on Christian principles and has turned it back on God. There's now the promotion of pornography, of abortion, of homosexuality, of moral relativism. And that which is good is considered evil, and that which is evil is now considered good. So our country is in dire straits. And it's not, we're not gonna be pre-Trib raptured out of here, folks.
I mean, I will debate anybody on that. But, you know, just don't put your hope in pre-Trib rapture, all right? I don't see it in scripture any place.
I've looked at books that have taught it, and they take things out of context and read stuff into the text that doesn't say. You know, I just don't see it being there at all. We go through it, it says Jesus warned.
When you see these things run for the hills, he talks about it that way. Don't put your hope in pre-Trib rapture. Don't put your hope in getting money and everything's gonna be nicey-wicey and all this kind of stuff. God wants you healthy and wealthy. Let me tell you, persecution comes to the Christians. And the Bible warns about persecution. And it fully manifests in death, in a lot of cases, for Christians.
The reason I'm talking about this is I wanna make you nervous. I want you to understand that just because we live in America doesn't mean that we're immune. America is an exception to the rule. We're Christians, real Christians, not those who are posers of Christians. They, you know, claim to be a Christian, and they watch porn and do drugs and get drunk on a regular basis, and they go back to church, and they don't think anything about it. This kind of stuff, you know, we're talking about real Christians, those who are born again, those who are dwelt by the Lord God, those who believe and trust in Jesus Christ, who war against their sin, who seek righteousness.
These are the people who are going to be attacked by the unbelievers and the unbelieving country and the unbelieving way of things. It's on the rise, it's on increase. Now, I live in Boise, Idaho, and a couple of days ago, my wife and I mentioned it yesterday, but a couple of days ago, my wife and I were in Boise town, and there's a gigantic rainbow flag hanging from a building. I mean, gigantic, you know. I don't know how big it was, but it was, maybe it was 50 feet wide by 75 feet long kind of thing.
It was huge. Now, I was thinking, why can't we put a cross, you know, repent and be saved? Turn to Jesus and put it up on a building. Would that happen? Of course not. No, no, they're not gonna have that happen, returning to Christ and believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. No, instead, it's homosexuality, LGBTQ. That is what is good. That is what is righteous. That is what is healthy, et cetera, and it's the exact opposite of what the truth really is. So our society, that's just one of the examples. Our society is promoting ungodliness, and it is codifying and making into law ungodliness in the practice and supporting of ungodliness. Do you think God's going to support our country very long at this rate?
No, he's not. And if you think that you're gonna get out by some pre-trib rapture, well, I'm just gonna go so far as to say I think you're deceived. The issue here is what are we gonna do as Christians in the here and now? Jesus says to occupy until he comes back. That means to keep busy with the things you're supposed to be doing. Now, in Judges 21, 25, it says that everyone did what was right in his own eyes.
What that means is they turned their back against God, and they had their own form of truth, their own relativistic idea of truth, and morality and destruction comes upon them. This is exactly what's happening in our country. We have leftist whack-a-loo morons in political control. We have the borders open wide.
Now we're being inundated. They're passing trillions of dollars in debt that's going on. They're trying to take away our guns and restrict them one way or another. They're trying to restrict our freedom of expression and religious freedom of expression. And I know, I've been doing the research, I've been doing the research on the Equality Act and religious freedom. Bill, I've read them both. They're up on my website. You can go check it out, karm.org.
I've done an analysis on the Equality Act. It's dangerous. This is what's happening.
So why am I saying that? I want you to realize you need to be praying. You need to find people in your church to be praying.
You need to find friends on your phone in other parts of the country to be praying. That God would be merciful to our country and that He would raise up people and raise up a revival. We need a revival. The Jesus movement back in the 60s was the last great movement that we had. In this country, we need another one.
We need the Spirit of God moving through. And we Christians have got to humble ourselves and start praying for our country. We need to start praying for our country that God would remove the ungodly people from office.
That He would get rid of them and put good people in who believe in the Constitution, who believe in biblical principles and won't promote ungodliness. This is what has to happen if our country's gonna survive. It cannot survive.
It cannot survive the way it's going with super increased debt, with the opening of the borders so that terrorists and illegals and everybody can just come in and then get free education and free healthcare. And we citizens who have been paying taxes don't get free healthcare and don't get free education. So the leftists, what they're doing is making those who work hard pay for those who don't. And they're gonna say it's on humanitarian need.
Well, we can answer that too. There are ways to take care of that. They need to take care of that in their own country.
We should help them in their own country so they can stay there and turn their countries into something good and not take their socialist ideas here because that's what the Democrats want is more votes. That's why they're opening the borders so they can get more votes to keep themselves in power. This is what it's all about, power.
The enemy of the gospel wants power and will use his servants. They are all over the place. They're Democrats, they're the Republicans, they're in all kinds of things.
All kinds of places, all kinds of ways. Do you think I'm kidding? No, I'm not. This is not what you normally would hear on a Christian talk show or a Christian call-in answer this question show. But this is the kind of stuff that needs to be taught from the pulpit and politics need to be addressed in the pulpit when necessary, not every day. But as you're going through scripture, and there it is, you talk about it when it's necessary. You should not be voting for anybody who's pro-abortion or pro-homosexual.
I don't care who you are. If you claim to be a Christian, you shouldn't be doing that. And this is how it's supposed to be as we're Christians. So I say to people, if you claim to be a Christian, act like one. If you claim to be a Christian, then be one. Then vote for someone who's godly. Then pray for the ungodly to be saved and pray for God's mercy to be on this country. Pray that God would raise up people who would fight for righteousness sake. Because when the good do nothing, the wicked prosper. We have got to be the ones who do this it's a call to arms, spiritual arms, spiritual prayer.
And writing emails, writing letters and things like that. We've got to do what we can do. Because folks, we're going to lose our rights. They're slowly happening. And the reason I'm saying this is because I keep myself informed on these issues. I get a lot of information sent to me on top of things.
I have a lot of news sources. And let me just tell you, there's a lot of stuff going on and it's not getting any better. All right, now that I've probably aggravated you, let's get on with the phones to Billy from Durham, North Carolina. Bill, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt, I listen to you every day. I love you, man.
Oh, appreciate it. But the question I have is I was reading the Old Testament. I made a commitment to myself to read the Bible from beginning to the end. I've never done that. Can you hold on?
I don't understand everything in the Bible but I believe everything in the Bible. Well, good. We've got a break. Can you hold on?
Okay. Hold on. We've got a break. So hold on, okay? We'll be right back. All right, buddy?
We've got a break. We'll be right back, folks, after these messages. Three open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.
Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. Bill, are you still there? Yes. Yes, sir. All right, sorry about that. Had a break there. All right, what do you got, buddy?
Oh, that's fine. I got two questions for you. I know it read that Enoch walked with God for 300 years. And how come Enoch was not mentioned in the Bible no more than just several verses? And my second question is how come the book of Enoch was removed from the Bible?
We'll go backwards. The book of Enoch was never removed from the Bible. It was never considered to be scripture. It was never scripture.
So it wasn't removed. Well, I've seen a book in a Baptist bookstore. It was written the book of Enoch. Yeah, it was the book of Enoch. I wanted the verses.
I'm going to get it. But how come he wasn't mentioned more in the Bible than just a few verses in the Old Testament? Because God didn't ordain that he'd be mentioned more. That's something you have to ask for God. Ask God about because it's an issue of inspiration. What did God want it to be there for or not be there for?
Or mentioned only a certain number of times. So I can't tell you that, okay, other than just God did not arrange it that way, okay? Okay, okay.
So that's that. Now, the book of Enoch is not scripture. It was not considered scripture. It just is not scripture. Oh, okay.
Okay. And I've asked several people and they really couldn't give me an answer, so. Oh, it's, see, but the Bible quotes many books that are not scripture. It quotes the book of the war, the book of Jasher. It has references to things like this. It's just like the Bible could use a reference to another book. It's like, yeah, in this book, here's this quote.
It can do that. It's all quoted pagan philosophers. Epimenides, Amanda, or Erastus. You know, they're quoted in the New Testament. It doesn't mean they're inspired. So that's all it is. It's just, you know, it's there. And the word Enoch occurs 13 times in the Bible, in the English, that is.
And 13 is the number of sin. Kind of interesting. But that's what it is, okay? Okay, well, thank you, Matt. You're welcome.
All right, well, God bless. Okay, let's get on the phone with John from North Carolina. John, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, good evening, Matt. Nice to talk to you. Nice talking to you. I had a hard time calling because you were really onto something there about our patriotism, our politics. Tell me how you really feel about it.
I could say a lot more, but, you know, I want to stay on the air. So, my question is about the, I don't know if you can hear me, my question is about the pre-trib versus pre-wrath. When you're talking about pre-trib, I was just wondering if that's what you're actually talking about is pre-wrath. Yeah, right. There's pre-wrath, pre-trib, there's different views, but basically what's being taught in America today is that we're going to escape the wrath of God that's going to be moved upon people.
And that it's not for the people. And they'll go to a verse, for example, First Thessalonians 2, eight, let's see if that's right. Oh, no, it's not. Maybe Second Thessalonians 2. But we're pointed not to wrath, but salvation. And, I gotta finish. Yes, that's the main one. Yeah, and the problem with that.
And also, go ahead. There's a problem with that verse, with him quoting that verse, is that it's ripping it out of context. Because it says you're pointed not to wrath, but salvation. The wrath has to do with damnation. The wrath of God on the unbelievers. And so, it's called juxtaposition. What God will often do is say, I create light and darkness, peace, calamity, wrath, salvation. That this is the pattern that God uses to speak. And so, a lot of the pre-trib rapture people, God bless them, but they just take verses out of context all the time.
They do. That's a very interesting concept there that's about salvation, not wrath. I've always told people that I'm a mid-trib, technically, because Jesus talked about the great tribulation. He was referring to the last three and a half years, which would actually be mid-trib, but in my mind, it's actually pre-wrath because of that verse you just said. Yeah, and when does the wrath come? And also, in Revelation 2, the church isn't even mentioned after Revelation 2.
We're not here. But, yeah, but neither is justification mentioned. Justification by faith alone in Christ alone is not mentioned either in the later epistles. Does it mean it's no longer valid? Of course not. Revelation can be understood in different ways.
It could be heptatic, which means a cycle of seven. Just because the church isn't mentioned, which I don't know how to necessarily agree with, doesn't mean that the church isn't here going through persecution, because it could be in hiding while it's here. One of the things I talk to people about, I don't know if you've heard me talk about this, it says in Matthew 24, Luke 17, two men in the field, one is taken, one is left. That's the call for rapture, right?
Yes, yes, yes. It opened my mind on that one big time. I had to study that one just hearing you, because I've always been pre-trip myself, but I love studying the word, and that one is very interesting. Yeah, and so if you've studied it, you know it's not about the rapture. It's about the wicked are the ones who are taken. And the rapture occurs, but this win is occurred. That's the issue. And when you go to Matthew 13, 30, the first ones taken at the return of Christ are the wicked.
And there's only one resurrection. How are they taken? How? That's the question.
That's the question. Yeah, how are they taken into, for being burned up? It's easy to see for pre-trippers that the rapture takes them, so how is the one destined to rest actually taken in that scenario?
We don't know how. It could be, I think it's in Revelation 16, it talks about three unclean spirits, like frogs going out to gather them together for Armageddon. And when they ask Jesus where they're taken, he says to Armageddon, I mean, he says where the body is, the vultures gather. So one of the theories is that these unclean spirits are sent out, they gather people, they actually transport them to the valley of Armageddon.
And they're destroyed there. But who knows? It's just a theory.
They don't know. So there's all kinds of stuff. But I'm really concerned, it's put this way, I don't know if it's a spiritual gift or not, but I believe I've always been able to see truth from error.
Even before as a Christian in relationship to God, there's some stories I've never talked about, but they're just things. And I recognize that I see it. It's a gift of discernment that I have it too, amen.
Yeah, my wife certainly doesn't have it, otherwise she wouldn't have married me. So I have this ability, I think, and I see it as clear as day that our country is in serious trouble, far more serious trouble than people realize, and that the Christians had better wake up and better unite in the essentials of the Christian faith and start moving forward and start marching, and I mean that metaphorically, but marching against unrighteousness and not causing riots and problems. But we need to be praying, and the pastors need to get off their lazy rears and start preaching the truth of God's word in totality and stop shying away from politics. You know, it's the men. The men, it's the responsibility of the men in the church to do this, and too many men, I think, are just weaklings and are afraid to preach the truth because they're afraid that the congregation might leave. Well, let them leave. Preach the truth and just let the chips fall with amen. That's what we're supposed to be doing as men.
All right, great. Preaching to please God, not people. And preach politics too.
Unfortunately, the howling's of the world, yes, amen, the howling's of the world has had a big impact on people believing a certain way. We got a break, you wanna hold? Hold on, okay, buddy, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned, folks. Two open lines, 877-207-2276, we'll be right back.
It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276, here's Matt Slick. So I have a buddy of mine, he's a Jehovah's Witness. He doesn't say he's a Jehovah's Witness. Long story short, my question is, shoot, I took a pic.
We were texting today, quick, sorry. Basically, he's saying Jesus isn't God because he's not sitting on the chair. He's not sitting on the throne of God. Therefore, he's not God. What you do is you say, show me in the Bible where it says that if you're not on that throne, you're not God.
That's a good one, too, and he was saying... But, hold on, but does God sit on a throne? Literally a throne? Ask him that. Does he literally sit on a throne?
I did, I answered the question whether or not. So, the next one is, since Jesus was sent from the Father, he's not equal to the Father. If I send my wife, does it mean that we're not equal?
Right? We're equal. Equal in what sense, I mean, I don't really understand. Well, yeah, we're equal, not equal.
You can see not equal, not equal in what way. But, anyway, look, I understand what you're saying, and they're told these things. They're brainwashed into this thinking, and it's hard to convince them by saying, well, this verse can mean something different because you're arguing against something that they've been trained into. What I'll often do is say, your logic doesn't require that Jesus not be God because he's not sitting on the throne of God because he's a man right now. And as a man, he's not gonna be on the throne of the Father because he is here to make intercession for us. It doesn't mean he's not divine. Because the Bible says he is in many verses, and it can show those verses. And you can go to 1 Corinthians 1, 2, which I think is one of the best ways to do this to a Jehovah's Witness, it won't be prepared for it. You should read the article on that. But... Well, he doesn't say he's a Jehovah's Witness.
He disagrees with them in a lot of areas, so he doesn't really identify as anything. So... Have him call in the show. I don't know. Have him call me. Have him call in the show. Yeah, he doesn't, I told him about you, he listened to you before, he doesn't wanna call you. I don't know why he doesn't wanna call you. Oh, I know why. Because he doesn't want me to correct him. He doesn't wanna be corrected. That's what it is, he's afraid. Okay. Yeah, that's it.
So... Yeah. The answer to that is, if Jesus was God, he would not need to be authorized, prove worthiness, fight temptation, or lack knowledge that the Father possesses. He would sit on the throne. That was one of his texts. Lack knowledge? Because he said no one knows the day nor the hour? And I've answered that many times on the radio, it doesn't mean Jesus didn't know. You go to Revelation 19, 12, Jesus has a name that only he knows. It says that no one knows except himself. Does that mean God the Father isn't God then because he doesn't know that? Is that what it's literally saying?
There's so many comebacks to this kind of stuff with these people, what they say. They don't think. They read one little thing, they draw a conclusion, and they look to find whatever they can to make their conclusion be promulgated all over the Bible. And you go to John 5, 20 through 23, you must honor him even as you honor the Father. He's prayed to in Acts 7, 55 through 60. He's worshiped, Matthew 2, 2, 2, 11, 14, 33, 28, 9, John 9, 35, 38. He's called God by God, Hebrews 1, 8. He's called God, Hebrews 1, 6, actually. And Thomas calls him God. He says, hakur yasmu, ka hatheasmu, in the Lord of me and the God of me in John 20, 28. There's so many places where Jesus is called God in flesh. And in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God, the Word became flesh, dwelt among us. I go to Colossians 2, 9. I can go to Philippians 2, 5 through 8. You know, there's just so many ways to demonstrate who Christ is. What this guy is doing is using these verses that are weak and saying all the other verses mean that he can't be divine because of this verse. You know, like the Father's greater than I, John 14, 28. Well, that means he can't be God, really?
Why? I'm greater in authority than my wife is in the family. It doesn't mean that she's not a human any more than me.
So they don't know how to think properly and critically. And I'd love it if he were to call up and I could run him through some stuff and correct him. Yeah, you got it. I know you can defend all that stuff. But he did admit to being an Arian. Yeah, he's a heretic. He's an Arian. Right, and that means Jesus is a created thing. And then you could ask his particulars. And let me tell you, go to Carm and look up call upon the name of the Lord.
Just look up that article. Call upon the name of the Lord. It has stumped Arians left and right, backwards, forwards, numerous times.
I just used it a couple of weeks ago on an Arian. And he actually admitted. He goes, I got to study that. That's interesting.
They couldn't answer it. And I would hammer him, OK? Hammer him on it.
Yeah, I'm sorry. He's using John 5.7. And he gave him authority to execute judgment.
So his argument is? Because Jesus was made under the law. Galatians 4.4, made lower than the angels. Hebrews 2.9. As someone under the law who was made lower than the angels, then he would have to have that authority given to him.
Because he was completely under that law as a man. No problem. OK. Yeah, I'm going to have to study your stuff a little more. All right, Matt, thank you. Well, believe it or not, I've written all kinds of articles on this stuff. So OK. All right, brother. Yeah, I appreciate it.
I read a bunch of your articles, man. It says, I haven't talked to them in a while. And we went from Jesus being God to we were actually talking about something else. And then it came back to Jesus being God.
I don't know. And then he brings up theon and theos, and he got into the Greek, and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I love it when people bring up the Greek. I ask them to parse, you know, ego ami, the verb ami, parse it.
And then they don't know what they're doing. You don't know Greek. It's something you'll learn in the first two weeks. So theon and theos and theu is just declensions of the noun.
You know, dative, accusative, genitive. So anyway, you should be careful about using Greek because it'll bite them. OK, buddy?
Yeah, I'm sorry, man. I know you have callers waiting. But he takes the word Son of God to mean that he created from the Father. Yeah, so ask him, does the term Son of God mean he's not God? And he'll say yes. And they'll say, well, then what does the term Son of Man mean?
If the term Son of God means he's not God, Son of Man means he's not man? Ask him. Yeah, I'm going to use that one right now. All right, man, I thank you.
I'm going to use that one now and see what he says. OK. All right, buddy. God bless. All right, let's go to the phones with Jeanette from North Carolina. Welcome, you're on the air.
Yes, Mac. Good afternoon to you. Again, I enjoy your show. Hello. Good, I'm glad you do.
Thanks. OK, let me just, I have a question. I was listening to what you were saying about the immorality and all of that. And I totally agree, but my question is, who do you write to about these concerns? Because when you were talking about how immigrants are coming over here illegally, I wish you could just see here in Raleigh all the different Latino credit unions that are populating. And I'm like, where are these people getting this money from? They're illegal immigrants. And they are billing credit unions all over the place.
And if I try to go and just open up an account of the credit union, and I have good credit, I get taken through the rigmarole. I mean, like I'm some kind of, you know, I mean, right. I mean, we're in trouble.
We're in trouble. So I'm saying, who do you write to about these concerns? Because it seems like to me, everybody's fucking stuff. And the pastors are not even talking about it. The pastors are talking about they need money for their church. And we know that.
And we know you're supposed to die. But nobody is addressing this stuff. I would. If I was a pastor of a church, I'd be addressing it. I'd just say, hey, and by the way, there's the exits over there if you don't like it. You know, no problem. Love you.
See you. Go find a church. Make you feel comfortable. I'm not a pastor. I'm not going to mention who it is. But you know, he's a good pastor. He preaches the word. But he never talks about any of the stuff, you know. And I don't want the too many pastors. I mean, really, that's why I like your show. Because you're the only one out here to talk about it. There's one pastor here in Raleigh that talks about the immorality a lot. And actually, he's even marched to the courthouse.
But he is only one of the few. People just don't do nothing. All out here, just like you say, well, we'll pray about it. Well, no, we need to be doing something about it.
But what do you do when you don't have nobody that just want to talk about it and they'll miss it, but they don't want to do anything about it? Yeah, I don't know. You know, one of the things I thought about doing is developing a section on CARM, where it's contact information for different states, different offices, email addresses, and things like that. You know, it just means me just doing research.
Do you have any information on your website that who I could write to? Can you? Hold on, I'll get a break, OK? We'll get right back, OK? Hey, folks, please stay tuned. And we'll be right back after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.
Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. All right, Janetta.
Oh, we lost Janetta. OK, you know what? During the break, I was actually looking at developing a web page listing out different stuff. And yeah, I think I'm going to see if I can work on it and see if it'll work so I can then point people to it.
It'll have all the lists of the capitals and addresses and phone numbers and everything. So much to do. Let's get to Jason. We lost Jason.
Wow, man, they're dropping like flies. OK, hey, we have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. I'm beginning to wonder, is there a problem with the, let's see, I'm asking the tech guy. Hey, folks, give me a call, 877-207-2276. OK, so he says there's no problem.
Could be just a coincidence. We just lost three callers really fast right away. So we have five wide open lines, folks. Give me a call. And we will blab about whatever you want to talk about.
So please give me a call. All right, so politics is something that not a lot of many pastors and stuff want to teach about or comment on. And I've always been bewildered by that, because politics is something that is taught in the Bible and is talked about. The biblical means or the biblical governmental system is representation. You have private property ownership. You have the right of representation. You have the right of trial by peers. This is biblical stuff, and I have an article written about it, the biblical form of government. Socialism, communism are not biblical.
You have the right, like I said, of private property ownership to be able to do what you want with what you have. And this is the kind of stuff that's taught. And so I do understand why pastors don't talk about politics. I think it's because of the 501c3 thing. I think it's a noose around a lot of people's necks in that they don't really think that it's appropriate to teach politics from the pulpit. Well, why isn't it, since all things, by definition, come under the purview of the lordship of Jesus Christ?
All things. So every person in office is obligated to do what is right before God. That's what their obligation is.
Now, are they going to do that? Well, of course not. We have a lot of people who deny the Lord God, deny who Jesus Christ is. But still, it's just like those who deny God exists still are under the moral obligation to not lie, cheat, and steal. People are obligated, because God is the King, Jesus Christ is the Lord, they're obligated to be able to act in a manner that is consistent with truth. And truth is not a commodity that's sold or exchanged between CNN and MSNBC or whoever, whatever, and the liberal side that shades everything. And even the conservatives do this too.
I'm not just saying that only the left. But we've got to be very, very careful. Truth is something that belongs to God. And truth is what conforms to the mind of God. And the only way for us to know absolute truth is to trust what the word of God says, because the word of God comes from the Bible and comes from scripture. And everything that God says is always true, because he knows all things.
So the only way to know that you have an absolute truth is if an infinitely knowledgeable God reveals it to you. And he has in the scriptures. That's why we know it's a sin to lie. That's why we know that homosexuality is a sin. That's why we know that pornography is a sin. That's why we know that abortion is a sin. That's why we know these things, because God has revealed these kinds of things in the scriptures. So the pastor should be teaching about this kind of stuff. I think that pastors should be very involved in politics, very involved in the community, very involved in teaching theology and equipping the saints for the work of ministry. It does not mean that we sit around and do nothing.
That's my opinion. I've always been the kind of guy to go do something. When there's a crisis, I run to the crisis. There's a car accident. I'm the first one running out into the street to rescue.
That's just how I'm built. If there's a problem, I want to go address it. I want to go deal with it.
And I don't like the idea of burying the head in the sand while the unbelievers coordinate using Sololinsky's rules for radicals and learning how to manipulate our country and promote ungodliness and overthrow our country. This is what's happening. Hey, folks, give me a call, 877. I want you guys, someone to give me a call, just to test to see if the line's working, because we've lost a bunch. And I don't know if the line's working right now. So someone could call you, and they want to just test, 877-207-2276.
I want to hear from you. All right, so I think I'm going to do some work on the CARM website on the issue of political activism in the sense of, here's the phone numbers. Here's the contact information. I think that would be very useful. And so I can work on that.
I actually tried a little bit of it already. Let's see. I wonder if anybody in the, OK, looking to read some text. If you guys got some text questions in the chat room, go ahead. Oh, I've got a caller in the chat room. Give me a type of few in.
I don't know if the phone system's working right, because I haven't had that many people drop off that quickly. So we'll just, let's see, read the text. Conservative, that's why we only know there's two genders. That's right, there's only two genders. Just two, male, female. That's how it works.
That's what God created. All right, so I'll tell you what we're going to do. Let's just get on the phones with Antoinette. Antoinette, you're on the air. Are you there?
Hello. He said the calls go on, I'm driving, and I quit the call. OK. Because I'm not really driving, I'm riding. That's all right.
We're just testing the phone. What are we going to do with this silliness for our grandchildren? Tell them the truth.
Tell them the truth. God has made Adam and Eve male and female. God separated the genders, male and female. He separated the light from the darkness. He separated the good from the bad. This is what God does.
So male and female is how God has made it. And tell your children, don't listen to the people who don't trust in the truth of God's word. Don't trust what they say, because they're working against him. That's what you got to do. That's good. That's right.
Yeah, thank you so much. I take it so far as to even say to parents, don't tell your children that Santa Claus is real, because it's not true. I believe in truth. Really do, not a rude kind of truth. But I'm not going to tell people lies. Even about Santa Claus, I couldn't. Couldn't tell my children it's not true. So I believe Christians need to be telling the truth.
We work with truth, not with error or lies, or half-truths. Yeah. All right. Yeah, we did that.
But now we have. OK. Well, never mind. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
All right, well, God bless. All right, let's get to Steve from Iowa. Steve, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt.
Thanks for taking my call. You were on the subject of politics. I was wondering how the American Revolution, for example, factors into Romans 13 and the idea that we're supposed to submit to authorities and the government like, was the American Revolution a sin? Like, should the founders have just endured the mistreatment that was coming from Britain?
Just wondering what your thoughts were on that. Well, I've not studied the issue of the Revolutionary War to know the true issues that were going on. I know there was taxation without representation. There was oppression. There was the jailing and persecution of people unrighteously. So Romans 13 talks about our obligation to resist.
Excuse me, I'm doing two things here. Romans 13 talks about our obligation to obey government. But the Bible also teaches resistance.
And people don't know that. So I'd recommend they go to Carm and look up the Christian's duty to obey and disobey government. The Christian's duty to obey and disobey government.
So in Acts 5 29, Peter and the apostles answered, we must obey God rather than men. They were ordered by the people in power to not preach Jesus' name. The Jewish midwives disobeyed the order to kill male children, Exodus 1.
This is a form of abortion, of killing the newborns. And the midwife says, no, we're not going to obey that. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego disobeyed Nebuchadnezzar's order to worship false gods. They said, nope, they disobeyed. Christians disobeyed the king's order to seize Paul in 2 Corinthians 11, 32 through 33. So the Bible does teach resistance of evil, resistance of that which is ungodly.
In my opinion, the pre-Trib rapture combined with the blond-haired, blue-eyed Caucasian surfer Jesus. And we have to measure spiritual truth in a church by how many people come in. This has hamstrung the power of the preaching of the word of God in totality.
Because Christians are obligated to obey the government except when the government goes against the word of God. It needs to be taught. It needs to be known by Christians. And what I teach is what the Bible says to the best of my ability. I'm not saying I always get it right. But this is what it says. And I teach people, what does the word of God say?
What does it say? That's why I get irked when I go to a church and I listen to the pastor open up a sermon but give me a five-minute illustration or a five-minute story before he gets to the word of God. I want to hear the word of God. Let's see what the word of God says. Let's obey the word of God. So yes, in Romans 13, we obey government. But we disobey government when it goes against the word of God. It is our obligation as Christians to disobey government in that case.
It is. But most Christians are not comfortable hearing that. Because then it puts the responsibility on them to do something. If it's easier to turn your cheek and wait to get raptured out, and you don't want to do anything, and we just obey government and be submissive, then we can just go about without any qualms and any worries about everything that we're responsible for.
And what I do is call people out of laziness and apathy and say, come on. The Bible calls us to be disciple makers and to resist evil. And it doesn't say in the Bible, look at your best life now.
It says, pick up your cross daily and come after me. That's what Jesus teaches. He doesn't teach this idiocy that I see.
Send your seed gift of $29.95, and the Lord will bless you. Such just blasphemous idiocy taught from the airwaves. We need to be studying the word of God. This is why our country is in such bad shape, because Christians aren't doing their job. Pastors aren't doing their job. Again, I've got to say it like it is.
Judgment begins in the household of God, the Bible says. You there? Yeah, I am. Thanks for taking the question. All right, man. Sounds good, buddy. God bless. All right, let's get to Kay from California.
Kay, welcome. You're on the air. We've got about two minutes. Well, maybe one minute. What do you got, buddy? Or where were we?
You there? Hi, Matt. It's Kay, long time listener, first time caller. Calling because I just wanted to first of all to thank you for being so open about this discussion. I'm from California.
So Marty had that against me. And I'm usually just one person out evangelizing on Saturdays. It's just me and my mother. We're two women out there.
So it can be discouraging, especially since sometimes I'm the only one in the store without a mask and things like that. And so today is my Bible study. I'm going to Bible study. I'm going to talk to my pastor about these things and let him consider it.
And I'm wondering, how do I go about talking to him about this? How I personally feel that as a church, we should be an example. And learn about the masks and learn how they're not working and how to stand up as a church and be that model for people not to live in fear.
How to go about saying that. What to do, how to combat the repercussions. The biggest one I hear is, we wear them out of respect. Even though we know this won't work, we wear them out of respect. It just means they're not working, so do it out of respect. It's ridiculous.
It's his leftist mind control. We're out of time. Call back tomorrow. We could talk about this.
Because there's a lot of cult practices going on with the masks. Believe it or not, there is. Hey folks, we're out of time. Call back tomorrow, OK? All right, hey folks, may the Lord bless you. God bless. We'll talk to you tomorrow, by his grace. Another program powered by the Truth Network.
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