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You can check everything out on karm.org. See, that wasn't that hard. Just getting through stuff. All right, let's get to Carrie from Boise. Carrie, welcome.

You are on the air. Hi. I have a question about Revelation 7. I'd like to know, pardon? I was repeating it. Revelation 7.

Okay. Why are Dan and E-frame not listed? Dan, I believe it was introduced to idolatry at one point. I'm not sure about E-frame.

It was E-frame that did that. So a lot of times what happens when they will restate the tribes, they'll do them in different orders sometimes in order to convey a message. So you have to go through and look at what that order is. But one of the tribes did introduce idolatry stuff, and I forgot which one it was. And it looks like that's why they are omitted from there. It's either Dan and or E-frame. Been a while, so I've had to pull that one on the back of my skull.

But that's what it is. Okay. I see Carrie, you're from Boise. Can I ask what church you go to? You don't have to say, but I'm just curious.

Eagle Christian Church. Dr. Crane. Yeah, I talked to Dr. Crane before.

We've had lunch and talked. Yeah. Good. All right. Yeah. What does it take to, there are wolves in sheep's clothing in churches, and pastors are like this sometimes.

What does it take to get them exposed and removed? Why do they succeed? They succeed because the body of Christ is not doing their job. The men in particular are the ones who are supposed to stand up and resist error. When Adam and Eve were in the garden, she sinned first, and she gave the fruit to Adam, and then he sinned.

Verse 5-12 says that sin entered the world through one man, Adam. So the federal head is the male. The males by default are a little bit more-ish, responsible-ish in the church. They have the call and the duty of standing on the truth of the word of God. The reason that pastors are allowed to be in the pulpit that are bad is because the men are failing to do their job in the church. Period.

That's it. They're not taking responsibility. They're not looking at the word of God. They're not standing up like they should be and saying, No, we don't approve of homosexual pastors. We don't approve of women pastors and elders.

We don't approve of supporting Kenneth Copeland and the heretics and things like that. So they should be doing that. It's because they're not checking out the word of God.

They don't stand on it. They're not being real men. And so if a woman is being put through church discipline and shouldn't be and is getting abused, it's because the men are sitting by silently letting it happen and doing nothing? Well, they may not be aware of the church discipline because church discipline occurs, and it's usually done in private, and then if it's escalated, it goes to the level of being communicated to others. So it could be that the people in the congregation just don't know what's going on. Plus, some men just don't know biblical theology. They might be new converts. They might not have time to deal with the issues that need to be dealt with.

However, as a body of Christ as a whole, normally speaking, the men in the church are supposed to be students of the word of God. And when I tell them this, it makes them squirm in their seats. But I don't know any circumstances or the circumstances that you're referring to, I don't know. If you can say they're abused, a woman's being abused in that, it might be the case. It might not be the case. So I don't know what the situation is, so I really can't comment. Right.

Okay. What about attorneys that work in the area of church law, who show that they themselves are corrupt and corrupt judges? How do you remove corrupt attorneys and judges who accept brides and operate that way? Well, you can pray an imprecatory prayer over them. An imprecation is a prayer or a comment for the destruction and harm of somebody. And there are imprecatory Psalms where God says in the Psalm, or the Psalmist says, God, go get them. You know, dry up their vineyards. You know, may they be sick.

Things like that. And these are actually worship songs to God. So can the Christian do this?

I believe so. I think a Christian can pray and say, Lord, we prefer that this person be saved. Please save this person. However, Lord, if it's not the case that they're to be saved and they continue in their evil, judge them now and deal with them according to their sin so that your kingdom of truth might be enlarged.

And that's not a bad prayer at all. So that's one of the things. There are corrupt judges. There are corrupt pastors. And if you just turn on TV, you'll see mostly corrupt politicians.

Not all, but a lot of them are. And so what we need to do as Christians is to pray and ask God to deal with them. We want their salvation first. But if they're going to continue to do the things that are ungodly and against the Constitution and move us towards the socialistic entry door to communism, then we need to stand up and fight against it.

And that can take different forms. And the form it's supposed to take initially is on our knees, praying. And then we're supposed to vote. And then we need to petition. We need to get out there and assemble. And that's what needs to happen.

And if, as I've said before, if we get somebody in Christian circles who's well known, not like myself, I'm not, but we have somebody who knows stuff and we have a national arrangement. This is an idea I've had. I think it's a good idea. On whatever day, twice a year, say September 1st, that everybody whose last name starts with an A goes to the capital of their state or if they're too far away, they go to some other representative area. And they hold up signs and petitions saying we want our country back or whatever it would be appropriate. You know, please stop doing this and do that or cite these laws.

Have someone with lawyer-esque knowledge about what issues there are and have these signs up. And if 10, 15,000 people showed up on that day, that's going to make the news. And then the next day, people whose last name starts with B, they show up doing the same thing. And they do this through, you know, let's just say six days a week for three weeks, you know, 26 letters roughly, and you do A, B, or C, D, you know, whatever, combine some letters because, you know, X, Y, Z. This kind of a thing. And where people would pay, say, $5 a month for support to be able to do this so that people get arrested, they can hire lawyers to defend them. See, I think we need to be organized.

Let me tell you something. In World War II, people escaped from prison camps. In World War I, people escaped from prison camps. In Vietnam, people escaped from prison camps, but not in Korea.

And the reason no one escaped from prison camps in Korea is because the Koreans did something really smart. All they did was watch the population of prisoners. And whoever became a leader, they just removed them, took them away. That's all.

Set them someplace else. So there was no leaders. With no leadership, the sheep just scatter. So, if we're not organized, we don't have leadership, then the Christians aren't going to be united.

And they're too busy bickering about things like carpet color or hymns or not hymns or whatever it is. We need to be focusing on the work of Christ and we need to be, not rioting, but we need to be petitioning and we need to be protesting. And as far as I'm concerned, unlike the leftist wacko morons, when they protest, the city is left in shambles. If we protest, the place should be cleaner when we leave than when we went in.

That's how it should be. And I say do this kind of stuff. If you're going to be in protest, pick up trash. Put it in your pocket and keep going. You know, dispose of it later. And this is what Christians should be doing. But what are we doing?

Nope. I'm not going to get out and risk anything. Let somebody else do it. And because they want somebody else to do it, nobody does it.

Unless you get a few wackos like myself who stand up and speak, but so what? You know? Thank goodness. We need more. That's what I love. You actually speak.

Yeah, I do. That's why I love your radio show and I stumbled onto it. You know, I got to give kudos where it's due because my wife is involved in this as well. And what I do affects her.

Now think about this. My wife has serious medical issues. She's had open heart surgery, numerous surgeries, osteoporosis.

I can go on. She doesn't really like me saying this, but she has some serious issues. And we're trying to even get a car that will fit her needs, you know? And she has a husband who's an obstreperous moron sometimes. What kind of a woman is she to, in the midst of her pain and suffering, she is forthright and supporting this as well? That's quite a woman. She stands up for the word of God just like you. She does.

That's right. So I have an incredibly good woman and she's not perfect, but she's an incredibly good woman. She deserves a lot of the kudos too. She helps enable me to be able to get on the radio and do what I do. And she does the things I hate doing, like answering all those emails about entrance into the schools.

That's just not my thing. She does this stuff. She enters into spreadsheets and does the deposits. I'm like, oh good, you do that. I like to argue with people and perfect methodologies so I can speak on them, just like I did on the Patreon leader today because I've been reading the Communist Manifesto. I've been commenting about it and I've been learning. Oh, it's a bad document.

Oh, it's horrible. And so she sets me free to do that. So I'm just trying to spread the kudos around because it takes two. She's a good woman except for her taste in men. She's a good woman.

Tell her I said thank you. Well, okay. All right. Well, God bless. All right, Cara.

Thank you. Okay, we'll talk to you later. There's a break, folks.

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Let's see. Let's get to Gabriel from Georgia. Gabriel, welcome. You are on the air. Hey, Mr. Slick, how you doing? Doing all right by God's grace.

Hang in there. What do you got, buddy? I had a question. I have an event coming up in November where it's going to be Christian on both political ends, as far as Republicans and Democrats and as a whole. I was just wondering what type of question, if you were in this situation, what type of questions would you ask the group pertaining to Christianity, politics? Because I hear a lot of Republicans or conservative Christians say, I don't see how anybody could, you know, that's I don't see anybody that's a Christian to call themselves a Democrat and vice versa. So it's like, you know, like the Christian body is divided by politics. I just wanted to pick your brain as far as if you had the whole like what type of questions would you ask or to engage the group?

Thank you. Well, you know, there's lots of questions I could ask and I'd ask to both sides. Do you claim to follow Christ, you know, because we're talking about Christians here. You claim to follow Christ, you know. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Do you believe that the word of God is true? If they say no. Well, that's another discussion. They'll say yes. OK. Then can you vote for someone who is pro homosexual and pro abortion when they want to kill the unborn?

Can you do that in all good conscience before God? And they say, what's your answer? See me, I need to be either a coach for the debaters or I need to be the one asking questions.

I'd love to be up there. I mean, it's never going to happen, of course, but I'm far more pointed and far more direct to both. I'd get questions that were for both people that are very direct if they don't answer. I say you did not answer the question.

Stop dodging. Answer the question. I would call them to the task that needs to happen. But anyway, so they need to answer these questions. If you call yourself a Christian, do you support abortion?

The killing of the innocent? Do you? Because that's exactly what it is. And if they him and haw, say you're just him and hawing.

Let your yes be yes and your no be no. Why won't you not answer? And why do you not answer according to the word of God? And ask them, you know, how would your faith in Christ affect your decisions politically?

Because that's an important question. Just as we could ask, how would your atheism to an atheist affect your decisions politically? See, people assume, atheists, they'll be the ones objective and neutral. And that if you're a Christian, you somehow won't.

You'll be imposing your views on others. But humanism, which is atheistically based, is considered a religion. And it has been taught as a religion. And the Supreme Court recognizes that a religion. And it's what's taught in schools and for the political pulpits.

Nobody complains about that. The hypocrisy is there. And we can get into a whole area of hypocrisy. Do you ask them, do you speak truth? Is it okay to say a little lie in order to get votes?

Because if I were running for office and someone said, Matt, you know, are you going to lie? I said, nope. You know, do you believe homosexuality is a sin?

Yes, I do. You can look on my website and go, look, yes, I believe it's a sin. Yeah, it doesn't mean I hate them. It doesn't mean I would treat them badly. Yes, it's a sin. So is adultery. So is stealing.

So is lying. They're sins. And people need to stop sinning. But you can't force everybody to. But what happens in this political climate is because God is not in their hearts, we need more laws upon the hand. And the more laws you have, the less freedom you have. And this is concomitant with the issue of the rise of socialism, because the people who want socialism, they are the ones who don't mind losing their freedoms because they want the redistribution of property, of self, and all this stuff that has to be forced away from some people to get to others, which means laws have to be in place to forfeit the rights and the privileges of some people for the expense of the greater ones.

Well, that means that the laws are in place. And so the overall harmony of society is lessened. And the rights of the overall harmony, rights of the society are also lessened. And then as people complain and more injustices are proclaimed as being real, more laws have to be passed. And the more laws that are passed, the less freedoms we have.

And this is what's happening in the socialist agenda. So I would ask them, I'd say, are you in favor of the radical increase of laws in order to ensure fairness of treating people? Well, that's a trick question.

Because if they're going to say yes, let's say, well, what judges, what's fair? What standard of morality do you have by which you can say something is right or wrong? I was watching a show, and I was appalled by the statement.

I forget the name of the show, but I watch it every now and then. And a woman said to the man who represents a Catholic church, and I believe Catholicism is apostate, but here's the point anyway. Do you agree with how your church treats homosexuals?

He said no. And the assumption was, oh, homosexuals have to be treated a certain way. You have to approve of it. That's the right way. I'd have been saying, excuse me, how ought they be treated?

And please establish the means by which you can judge what is right and wrong. See, the unbelievers don't have anything. They have nothing to offer us as far as righteousness goes. And we need to press them on things.

We also need to press the people who claim the name of Christ and press them as well and find out where their loyalties really lie. So this may like go without saying, but I think me personally, I think that Christians don't vote biblically because they're just like how some Christians may not read their word. They may not be politically astute as far as voting. So it's like they may not know certain policies.

That's just what I see. Because it's like it's like people vote based off what a politician tells them. Just like how, you know, I do whatever my pastor tells me as opposed to reading the word on my own or looking into the policies for myself. Because I'm an extra like Democrat, so I'm a Republican. So and when I just started looking at the policies and certain things that I can agree with the people who might say, I don't see how somebody could call themselves a Christian, a Democrat, but I still want to have, you know, respect for my brothers and sisters who may not, you know, who are in darkness.

Right. And we've got to be careful how we address that and stuff. But I'll tell you, things are becoming polarized in this country. And the very fact that the left is in control of the media and the left is in control of our schools, it means that the propaganda machine is alive and well. When the propaganda machine is in control, then the statement from the novel 1984 is true and becomes very powerful. And the statement is he who controls the present controls the past and he who controls the past controls the future. That means if you're in control of the present, you can control what history is taught and how it's interpreted and what is said about history so that you can get people to think what you want about the future.

This is what's happening in the schools. History is being rewritten and it's being shaded so that the future is shaped by their agenda. So even if Trump wins in this election coming up, which I hope he does, because I certainly don't want Biden to get in because then they'll do the 25th Amendment on him and then Kamala Harris will be in. And she's dangerous.

She is dangerous. They'll pack the Supreme Court and then they'll make it so that nobody else can get in. They'll pass laws, they'll get rid of the filibuster, all kinds of stuff.

And then no more representation from conservatives anymore than the confiscation of conservative rights will occur. This is all serious stuff. Okay.

We're out of time, buddy. All right. Thank you. All right. God bless.

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Let's get on the phone here with Dill from Maryland. You are on the air. Hello, Matt. How are you today? Doing all right, man. Hanging in there.

What do you got? Okay. Hey, Matt, I just have a quick question for you. And I'm going to kind of lay it out in a scenario.

Okay. If you were to give someone the Gospel and they respond to it, would you then give that person assurance? Like would you say that, hey, you're saved?

Well, what I would say is if you've truly trusted in Christ and you put your faith and trust in him, then you have eternal life. Because we can't know someone's heart. And I would just say that's the truth. Right.

And that's what it is. Okay. Okay. Just because I had come across a couple of teachers that, you know, some say yes and some say no.

For example, you know, I forget who it was I was studying. I'm brought up Romans chapter 8 verse 16 where it says the spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God. And like, you know, he uses that to say that, you know, we should let the Holy Spirit give that person assurance rather than, you know, we tell them that they're saved. Okay. Right. Well, you know, there are people who will focus on different aspects of this and say you can't say they have assurance. You can't do that.

Some say, yes, you can. Others say the formula. The problem is that a lot of times the definitions are not really examined. So that's why I say, look, if you've trusted in Christ truly, you're saved. And I'm not going to say everything. And the reason you trust is because faith has been granted to you by God. Philippians 1 29. And repentance has been granted to you by God because you're appointed to eternal life. Acts 13 48. So, you know, if they're really believing it's because of God's work. And so they'll be saved. Right.

That's it. But I don't know the heart. Right. So I can't say that all that is true. I just say if you truly trust it, if you really have and understand who Christ is and what he's done, then you have eternal life. These things are written so you may know you have eternal life.

First John 5 13. And that's about as far as we can go with it. Right. Yeah. Right. Okay.

I just kind of wanted your take on it. Okay. Yeah. Sure.

There you go, man. All right. All right. Hey, well, thank you very much, Matt. You're welcome very much. God bless. All right. Thank you. Sorry about that.

I got to cough and cut him off accidentally there before. If you want to give me a call, we have two open lines. 877-207-2276.

Scott from Greensboro, North Carolina. You are on the air. How are you doing this evening, Matt? I'm doing all right, by God's grace.

What do you got? I was wondering if you had seen the news from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. It came out yesterday afternoon where they are now establishing a $5 million scholarship for African American students only. I was wondering your thoughts on that and also about supporting Southern Baptist churches who contribute to the cooperative program, which contributes to these seminaries.

Well, I haven't done my research yet, but the things I've been hearing and reading in articles from other sources, the SBC is going south. It's following the ways of the Assemblies of God in the Nazarene denomination and adopting social justice errors. So can they have a $5 million set aside for minority scholarships? Personally, I don't see any problem with that. Is it racist?

Well, maybe it is, but maybe it's not. Racism is an intent in the heart, and if what they're trying to do is reach out and have more people in minority communities go to seminary to be ministers, well, that's good as long as they're doing a good job educating them. I don't have a problem with that. I wish they would have... Well, hang on just a second. What he was saying was, what started this was they wanted the names of the buildings changed because they represented people they didn't like. And so they decided they were going to keep the names of the buildings and instead give them this $5 million scholarship for reparations. Yeah, and reparations, yeah, forget reparations.

That's ridiculous. And reparations for the slaves in the 1800s, no, that is not going to help anybody. Reparations should not be given any more than I should receive reparations for the abuses to my ancestors in Germany and in America when they first came over here, because my last name Slick comes from the German Schlichting. And so there were some injustices done. And what about the Chinese who were mistreated by a lot of people, about the Indians mistreated by a lot of people? Did you also know that there's like 180, 200,000 white slaves in the 17, 1800s in America from Europe? Different kinds of slavery too.

Some chattel, they were slaves as well. I guess we need to have reparations too. You see, it's just a political thing that is being given over to the black community. And what needs to happen is not reparations, not giving them money. What needs to happen is they need to police their own people, just like anybody needs to police their own people. All cultures, all nations, all need to police their own. It doesn't matter what color you are. If you have a problem, get your own group of people, and group of people can be by color or by geographical location or by language, whatever it is, and police your own and raise yourself up.

That's what needs to happen. Instead of saying, give me money for something that happened to my ancestors. It's not going to help.

It's just a form of forced socialization and redistribution of wealth in order to satisfy people's desires for money. I agree with all of that. What do we do if we are members of a Southern Baptist church that contributes to this cooperative program, which then in turn gives money to all of their seminaries?

I'm having a hard time with this. I've been Southern Baptist, but I just don't feel like I can support that anymore. Then don't. If your conscience says don't support them, then don't do it because you'd be going against your conscience. Let them know why you don't want to support them because of these issues. If this is what you feel, this is what is between you and God, each person should be convinced in their own mind, Romans 14.5 says. Personally, I don't have any problem with money being set aside for minority groups, for scholarships to help them out. I don't care.

That's fine. But we have to be careful that it isn't something that's reactionary because of political and social pressure. Because then what they're doing is not doing what's right before God, but they're doing what is right before people, and that's a motive issue.

If this idea of minority scholarships is something that they want to do, they should have been wanting to do it for decades. But all of a sudden it's, hey, we're being pressured, we're looking bad, let's now take care of this. Then what's the reason? Is it because they're being people of integrity before God, or are they kowtowing and bowing to the social political pressure? I would have a problem with that. Even if they come forth and said, we should have been doing this before, and this has brought it to our attention, and we recognize our failure in this area, and we repent of it, then I don't have a problem.

Because we all have our areas of sin we've got to repent from, and sometimes it takes some hard things to bring it to our attention. I don't have any problem with that. It just depends on the motive. If it's just to make people happy, then don't do it. If it's doing it because it's right before God, and they are repenting of prejudices and problems that they had before God, then fine, I don't have a problem with that. Put money aside and help people out. And we need better pastors in the black community who won't be preaching some of the crud that's being preached, and we need some better preachers in the white community who aren't going to be teaching some of the idiocy that's being taught by people like Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland. So, you know, it's all across the board.

I wish that I could find a seminary of some place that would grant me scholarship stuff so I could do my doctorate, and it's scholarship for German-American descendants. That'd be great. Why not? At any rate. Okay. All right. Well, thank you, Matt. I appreciate it. God bless. God bless. Okay, let's get on the phones with Carl from Idaho.

Carl, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How you doing? Doing all right. Hanging in there.

What's up, buddy? Hey, you know, I think you should start a GoFundMe to get a scholarship or, you know, help pay for your doctorate because I think you should go get it. You have your masters. I know you do.

I'd love to get a doctorate. And you're a great theologian. I know. I love you. You're my number one. R.C.

Sproul's my number two. Wow. That's almost heresy. That's heretical in life. I would love to be able to do it, but I can't do a doctorate because I work 60-hour weeks at CARM.

I'd have to have it work with me. Oh, yeah. That's the only way to do it. Hey, we got a break. Hold on. All right. We'll be right back, folks. Okay.

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Taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome, everybody. We're back to Matt Slick live and it's the last segment of the hour. Let's get to Michael from Salt Lake City, whom we lost, and let's just jump over to Alan. We lost Alan.

Oh, they're dropping like flies. Let's get to... Well, I'll tell you what. We have... Oh, I forgot. We got to get back to Carl.

He was waiting. Hey, if you want to give me a call, we have four open lines, 877-207-2276, and before we get to it, I'm going to just say something. I've got a friend.

My wife and I have a friend named Mary Ann and she lives here in Idaho. She's down in Texas and she's driving a truck for two or three weeks for anti-abortion work and I'm going to give you an address, a web address that you can go to, but I have to warn you, it's got some graphic photos on there, and what they do is they drive these trucks in during rush hour in different areas and show what abortion is. These photos are not pleasant to look at, and so whether you agree or don't agree, that's it.

It's up to you. The website is abortionno.org, and I believe that we Christians need to support the cessation of abortion in America, the killing of the unborn, and I would be willing to have a public debate with anybody about this issue on the morality of abortion because morality is what governs our decisions, and our decisions govern our politics. I'd love to have a debate with anybody on this, but of course they won't. I offer debates every now and then and, you know, get the libos in and they don't want to do it.

So at any rate, that's that, abortionno.org, warning you, there are some graphic pictures on there, and if you think that that is something worth supporting, there's the information for it. I'm just off the top of my head there doing that. Let's get back to Carl. Hey, Carl, sorry about that, buddy. All right, man, what do you got, buddy? Hey, Matt.

Hey, I'm definitely anti-abortion. You made a last comment, you're working a lot of hours, I just wanted to let you know I have free time on weekends, and I'm pretty good at writing and typing, I'm pretty good at research. If you need any help, I don't know what I can offer, but I'm here.

My lawn could be mowed, that's one thing, and stuff like that, and the cat box is strained. Oh, yeah. But as far as the other stuff goes, to answer emails, they have to go through a process. We now have someone in charge of that, and it takes a couple, three weeks just to be able to answer emails, to get to the place, and then they're supervised, and then to write research.

If you want to delegate, I agree with a lot of your theology, that would be a niche that I could definitely get into. Well, one of the things we're going to be doing once this new site's released, hopefully in about four to six weeks, hopefully, then I'm going to be needing some people to help me on research items, and what they have to do is find books, and preferably on Kindle, and the phrase that I can go verify context, make sure it's in context, verify everything, and then I can use it in quotes and research. For example, I'm reading through the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx. It's a load of crud.

Well, I've got a lot of things in there I can quote, but if people were to say, well, he said this, I would still have to get the book and go through to make sure that what the context, what they're saying is correct. So that's just how it is. Right. And people then have to know what to look for, and how to find it, and how to document it. This is not an easy ministry to do. We have a high standard here. We have a high standard of requirement.

So I'm surprised I even make it. Well, I'll email you at info at karm.org, and see if I can offer my services. No charge. I just want to help out.

Sounds good. On the weekend. But anyways. What city do you live in, Karl? Coeur d'Alene. Oh, we're up there. Okay. It's beautiful up there. Yeah. All right. It is.

It is very beautiful. Thanks a lot, Karl. Appreciate it.

Yeah, for sure. The question I had, I hear a lot of people talking about government, and the way, you know, a lot of politicians are going socialist, and all this. I was listening to my third favorite pastor, J.D. Greer, great pastor, great theologian.

He was preaching on Romans 13, talking about the relationship Christians should have to government. All right. And I'm, I mean, my basic question is, where do you draw the line?

Easy. When you're submitting to government. You submit to government, and it asks you to do that, which is contrary to scripture. So if government says you need to support homosexuality, you say nope. You say you need to support abortion, you say nope. We don't. What if it contradicts freedom, the freedom on which this country stands, the U.S. Constitution. Well, freedom is something that is biblical, and it has to be weighed, of course. We don't have the freedom to go into a theater and yell fire, but the issue of the masks.

What needs to happen is the true information about the viability of the virus and things like that has to be promoted, has to be, I don't trust the media, and the CDC is kind of bearing information. So I don't know. You know, I don't know what the fact is, and that's just something I'm not qualified to really comment on right now. Okay? Okay. All right. Well, all right.

I guess that's it. All right, man. Well, God bless. God bless you, man. I love you.

I'll be in touch. Have a good evening. You too.

Thanks a lot. Appreciate that. All right.

Bye-bye. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Hey, folks. We have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, four open lines in about eight minutes, 877-207-2276. Kathy from Iowa. Kathy, welcome. You're on the air. Thank you. Thank you.

Sure. I wanted to say thank you to you. I've been on once before, and I really can't stress enough how grateful I am that you are on the air.

I really cannot because there are days where my patience, my grip, my tenacity to face all of the negative things that we are going through in this country is really on a thin thread. When I listen to you and you never cease to, by God's grace and, I believe, by the Holy Spirit, you impart to people what the Holy Spirit would have us understand in today's culture with the issues that we're facing. So I just wanted to say thank you because I know I am not the only one that feels that way.

Well, I do appreciate that. My desire, I'll just tell you, my desire is to bring glory to God and to equip the body of Christ. The way to do both is the same way, is to speak the truth of God's word. I stand on the truth of God's word. I'll tell people, if you don't like it, that's between you and God. This is what God's word says.

So I tell Christians what they don't want to hear and I tell unbelievers what they don't want to hear. That's only because God took a filthy, vile sinner who was into porn and the occult and foul mouth and saved him by his grace. This same guy has autism, Asperger's.

So the glory has to go to God. He's the one who put this on my heart to do it. It's certainly not me, it's him. Can I ask you, are you stating that you have Asperger's? Yes, I have Asperger's, I've been officially diagnosed, yes I do. I was diagnosed when I was five years old with Asperger's and mine affects me with my hearing. Yeah, my hearing too, my hearing too.

Oh wow, how crazy is that? Wow, I was not expecting that, I was not expecting that. I want you to know that I listen to you often and from one autistic individual to another. You can understand struggles sometimes that I have and I want to thank you so much because you do seek God's wisdom and it is evident in the responses that you give and I just, I want to thank you from the bottom of my soul for being obedient to God's leading. Thank you. Praise God.

That's what I want. Thank you and praise God. It's been a wonderful day. Wow. You too. Bye. Well thank you very much. All right. You're welcome. Bye bye.

Okay. Well I wanted to just say my autism, my sight is affected, lights behind things, crinkling and sounds and other sounds, distracting. I actually do have all this and my friends all know about it and they're very accommodating let's just say and but you know, we fall in our strengths as well as our weaknesses but sometimes even our weaknesses can be used as strengths by God.

God's great grace. Just give him the glory. Janetta from Raleigh, North Carolina. You are on the air. Yes sir. I just want to say good evening to you. I really enjoyed your show.

I just started listening to it. Actually I'm sitting out here in my car before I go in the gym and I just wanted to make a comment on something that you said that I totally agree with and I want to say also thank God for you as well and for your show. But what I wanted to make a comment on, if it's permissible, you were talking about, you know how they are talking about giving black people, as I'm telling it right, reparations for slavery and you know sir, I totally agree. That's nothing, I mean if you want reparations, you need to have reparations for yourself. Now let me be specific. You know I'm tired of us looking and I'm a black person, I'm a black female but I'm tired of us looking for people to give us something.

You know I moved to Raleigh, I didn't have a dime. You know I got in the IT field and the rest is history and you know if we, and I know maybe slavery may have done some damage to some of us to things, that it has maybe pulled a lot of us apart but you know I don't know nothing about slavery. My mama don't learn about slavery, my grandma don't learn about slavery but my point is what I'm saying, we need to quit you know looking for somebody to give us something because like you said, you know that's just giving us money and then once we get the money what we're going to do, what you going to do when the money runs out? You know, to me that would just be like another form of welfare, so I totally agree with you.

I just wanted to say that and I thank God for you saying that. And you know what, since you said that, what happens, what do you call it when someone is dependent upon the state or someone over you in power that provides your needs and you have to depend on them for that? Exactly sir, exactly.

What's that called? Yeah, I mean and the problem with us and I don't mind, I don't have a problem saying that maybe somebody would be mad but you know what, I see people come over here, can't speak English, foreigners, they get ahead much quicker than us because you know they don't waste their time with foolishness. We don't even want to read anymore because what we do is we look at the TV and what the TV does. There's a break. Janetta, I'm sorry, we're out of time. I would love... Oh, I'm so sorry sir. No, no, no, it's okay.

It's okay. Thank you so much for listening. Call back tomorrow. Call back tomorrow. I definitely will. Okay. I definitely will.

I wish you my neighbor. Have a good night sir. Have a good night.

Okay. God bless. Bye-bye.

Love that call. Hey folks, we're out of time. May the Lord bless you. By his grace, we're back on here tomorrow. Talk to you then. Bye-bye.