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Hi, Matt. How are you doing? I'm doing all right, by God's grace.
What do you got, man? By God's grace. Praise the Lord. Matt, I just had a question, a biblical question regarding Luke chapter 10 verses 1 and 7, the 72 who are sent out.
Which one is it? What is the different theological meaning? And is it or could it be a problem of inerrancy? If so, why not?
Maybe a few more hope tips or resources on that. Oh, it's a textual issue. Sure. Well, let me look at the Greek here really fast. Because it could be a textual issue and 70 or 72.
So let me do this. I'm going to look up some gematria on my website because the Greek letters are also numbers. And so 70, I'm looking at what it would be, would be the – okay, that's in Hebrew. That would be in Greek just the omicron, an O.
All right. So omicron with a 2, the beta. That would be kind of hard to miss. So I don't know what the answer is because sometimes you can just tell by the very similarity of how a letter might be structured. So some manuscripts read 72, don't know why they do.
Let me look at this. You know, when we look in the Old Testament, I found very little. I Googled it.
And I found very little books and resources. And someone said it might be a scribal error, like somebody changed the 0 to the 2 because the 70 appears to appear in the Old Testament somewhere. I don't know if that's true.
Right. And actually what I'm going to do right now, Genesis, and I'm going to type in 70, 70, and 77 fold, Genesis 4. I've lived 70 years, 177. Yeah, there's a lot of 70s in there. So yeah, the thing to do would be to see what – this is in referencing to the Old Testament. Because there were the elders of the church, I think they chose 70 elders. So I think that's probably the right – in Numbers 11.
So it might be just a textual scribal error, which might be the case. Should I look into the Bart Ehrman book? I don't like Bart Ehrman. I don't trust Bart Ehrman.
What I'm going to do is – you know what, let me look at something here. I don't think it's a big deal, right? It doesn't change anything, right? No. Theologically, really. No. Nope.
Let's see. I'm looking on – one of our guys on staff here did a series on the King James, and he might even have information on the 70 issue, if he studied stuff like that. If he's listening, give me a call. If he has more information, if not, no big deal. But it's probably just a scribal error, just because it just says some manuscripts read 72.
I don't know why it would be 72, and it looks like the Gematria, or the numeric equivalence would be an Omicron with a beta. So I don't know. I just don't know what to tell you. Yeah. So where could I look, Matt, if I wanted to go further?
Well, what I would do is do what I'm doing right now. Let's see. Textual variant. Let's see. Seventy. Seventy. And then I'll put 72, Luke 10. And just see what comes up.
The 72 disciples. Okay. Both versions of numbers. Yeah.
Here's the thing. It's often because numbers have symbolic significance. Sometimes what they'll do is they'll alter a number slightly on purpose to represent something else they're talking about in relation to something. Right. Right.
So it might be something like that, but I would like to know when the 72 came in. It was a later manuscript edition of what the issue was. Oh, whatever. Yeah, kind of check that out. That's awesome. Matt, thanks also again for the poet and peasant book tip. Oh, yeah.
On the Luke parables. Remember a few weeks back you gave me that tip? Oh, yeah. I bought it from Amazon.
Yes. I think anybody who wants to really study the parables and understand particles done a bit more, awesome. Thanks again, Matt. It is a very good book. It is a very good book.
Yeah, and I know you're not going to give it out, and I'm not going to give it out to anybody either. What I'd recommend is read through it slowly. It took me a couple of months.
I had a 0.3-millimeter- Oh, yeah. I'm just kind of one-third through-wish. Yeah.
Because the cultural and the society of the time, a lot of it is in the footnote. Right. Anyway, thank you very much, Matt. Tremendous book. It's great. It is amazing. It is an amazing book, and it really helps.
What we think usually when we get out of Luke and all the whatever creatures, it gives you a little bit more and more in-depth look, and it's really helpful. Yes, it is. I want to thank you again.
The name of the book is Poet and Peasant and Through Peasant Eyes. It's a double thing. Right. One of my favorite things I learned in there was the issue of the woman who went to Simon the Pharisee's house with Jesus, and she pushed her way in.
When you read through that and know what the cultural norms were, oh, wow. It's tremendous. Wow. Once I get to it, Matt. Anyways, by God's grace, many people waiting, thank you for your help as always. God bless you. Stay safe. God bless. And God bless you and keep you, Matt. Thank you. All right. God bless.
That was John from Canada. Let's get on the phones with James from Arkansas. James, welcome. You're on the air. How's it going, man? It's going. I'm hanging in there. What do you got?
My question has to do with Acts 10. The past couple of days I watched your, I guess it was three different debates regarding baptismal regeneration. What do you hold to? I don't hold to that. Good. I fall into reform, I believe. Good for you.
Okay. But my question is, like, you know, usually, like, that's the text I see people go to and, you know, refute it. So my question regarding it, like, you know, I had this question before I even started studying more into it just because I guess I didn't really think it through. But my question regarding it is, like, do you think it's possible Cornelius was already converted before he met Peter? When you say possible, then we get into issues. Is it possible that the Lord had communicated to him?
Yeah, it's possible. Is it possible he's converted? Yeah, because it says Cornelius a centurion, a righteous and God-fearing man in verse 22 of Acts 10, well-spoken of the entire nation of the Jews. So it appears he was a believer. Now, to what extent? Because you could have a Jew who's a believer but not a convert, a believer in the truth of God and under covenantal awareness.
Now, a centurion it wouldn't apply to. So is it possible? Yeah, it's possible. You know, what kind of talk you mentioned about him fearing God, that was what really got me thinking about it.
Like, I don't know what comes to mind. I can't remember if it's Jeremiah or Ezekiel, but, you know, there's the verse in the Old Testament where God today is going to put the fear of him in their hearts, and I know that's new covenant, but, like, I don't know. I guess my line of thinking regarding it, like, you know, we all know that him and his household were baptized following that, so...
Right. I feel like, you know, if it can be, you know, proved that he was already saved, that puts a, I don't know how you'd say it, like, that gives those who would hold the baptismal regeneration problems because they wouldn't need to be baptized. Well, they would say, yeah, yeah, I get you. Didn't you go to Acts 10, 44 through 48, people are saved before they get baptized, obviously, in the text. What I like to ask the baptismal regenerationists is a few questions, but, you know, I'll ask them, are we justified by faith? They have to say yes because the Bible says, having therefore been justified by faith, Romans 5, 1. And then I'm going to ask them the next question, are they justified by faith when they have faith? That's a killer question, and, you know, it's a freebie for all of you baptismal regenerationists who want to debate me.
There's a question I would ask you, and how would you answer it? And it's a really important question because we're justified by faith when we have faith. Otherwise, we're not justified by faith. Hence, baptismal regeneration is not true. It is that simple. So, yeah.
I don't know. This is kind of like a smaller question, but in my studying of it, like, people seem to like, you know, a go-to verse for us, you know, is usually like John 3.16 or something. For what baptism? To try to change the, you know, for faith alone. Now, go to faith alone. Just go to Romans 4.5. To the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly. His faith is credited as righteousness. There's no mention of baptism there, and that's faith alone.
And it's justification before God. Baptism is, a lot of people don't know this, is a covenant sign. And a covenant is a pact or an agreement between two or more parties. You know, the Edenic in Eden, the Garden of Eden covenant sign was a tree. The Abrahamic covenant was circumcision. The Davidic covenant was prophetic in the person of Christ and the communion supper, which is the new covenant, which the covenant sign is that. Baptism is related to circumcision in Colossians 2, 12 through, you know, 12, 13.
11, 12, basically. And so it seems to be, well, Paul relates it. It haven't been buried with him in baptism. That's how you're circumcised of heart.
So what's going on? Well, he's relating the two, and we had to figure out exactly what it meant. But nevertheless, baptism is, it's a fascinating topic. And whenever I talk to baptismal regenerationists, I also like to bring up the fact that Jesus was sprinkled in his baptism because he was fulfilling Old Testament law per Matthew 3.15. And the only place it talks about the issues of what he did in his baptism is spoken of in Numbers chapter 4, Leviticus chapter 8, and Exodus 29. And these chapters have what the requirements were. And then in Numbers 8, 7, it says that the priest to be, the priest was to be sprinkled with water.
This is part of the requirement. And the reason I bring this up is because that's how Jesus was baptized. And yes, I know people, it says he went down into the water, but you go up to your knees and be in the water.
Then the issue of immersion becomes a problem for them, if you see what I'm saying. Yeah. All right, buddy, there's a break.
Yeah, it's been a while. Okay. Okay. Talk to you later.
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Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. We have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. We'd love to hear from you. Please give me a call. Let's get to Eric from Charlotte, North Carolina. Eric, you're on the air.
Hey, God bless you, brother Matt. Can you hear me okay? Yes, I can. You sound fine. All right, great. I love you so much, appreciate you. Just enjoy your ministry, praying for you, just letting you know.
Thank you. Before I get to my question, I just have a question. I'm interested in whether or not you have literally been physically assaulted for preaching a while, someone just laid their hands on you, basically. I've been assaulted in the technical sense physically with contact, but no one has struck me.
And so it's come close a few times. I have one person, but I'm confident in my martial arts, so I don't know if that comes across or not, but I've had threats. I've had people in my face. One guy I remember about a year or so ago was in my face literally six inches trying to chest me, telling me to take a swing at him.
I could have dropped him with one shot, but I just backed away. This is in front of a Mormon church, of all things. When I was pulling up signs, hismormonismchristian.com, this guy's wife finally pulled him away. I'm just telling the story, but much of the credit of the Mormons there, they're not bad people, but one of them came out and said, look, if this happens again, just walk in to us.
We'll protect you. So I appreciate that. Was this guy professing to be a Mormon or professing to be even a Christian, you know what I mean? Well, he was a Mormon. But I want to say this, even though I believe Mormonism is not Christian, I don't use that to represent Mormonism because there's jerks everywhere, and I don't consider that to be a proper representation of what Mormonism stands for. Yeah, well, the reason why I ask that is I may have been tempted, if I were in a situation like that and you're talking Mormon theology, that says, are you threatening me in the name of Jesus or in the name of faith?
Just throw them off a little bit. Yeah, well, they just get angry. In fact, once they called the cops on me, and these two cops walking up, and I was doing everything legally, and these two cops in front of the same church, as a matter of fact, it was a temple opening here in Idaho, and these two cops walk up, and I was like, okay, here we go, you know, let's get a deal with this. You know, I could tell it wasn't a big deal. And they walk up, and they had, anyway, they just got talking, and my guy goes, are you Matt Slick? And I said, yeah, he goes, yeah, I listen to your radio show. It was great. So we just talked.
He goes, you're not breaking the law. Just keep doing what you're doing. Anyway, lots of stories. I've had eggs thrown at me. I've been spit at. People get in my face.
Physical contact, which is technically assault and battery, but no striking. I've had women get in front of me in my face yelling while their husbands are smiling, waiting for me to push their wife so they could rip me apart or try to, you know, just stuff like that. But, you know, I've had to back down lots of times. And then when I'm carrying, oh, I really back down. If I'm carrying, I just back down.
I'm not going to get involved with anybody, you know, because you don't want anything to happen. Amen. Amen.
And that's just from the Baptists. That's a joke. Oh, wow. Well, you've definitely been physically assaulted, not necessarily by with someone laying hands on you. Someone's thrown things to spit at you.
Oh, yeah. And I had a guy once trying to rip stuff out of my hands and then threaten me. I've been threatened with arrest from a Mormon cop. And I can tell you stories about Satanists threatening to kill me. The FBI got involved with that one. I've been followed.
My wife's been followed. You know, it's just, I've got stories. You know, it's just what it is. Yeah. Yeah. And you asked, so there you go. Amen.
So what's your question? Amen. Well, my question, and, you know, as time permits, I wanted to ask you about the angel of the Lord. But because there was something, you had a conversation the previous call of dealing with the Church of Christ and, well, really baptismal regeneration.
They're more than just the Church of Christ. I deal quite a bit with them, and I have an arsenal of scriptural approaches, just conversational approaches and questions and ways in which I've dealt with them over the years to sort of disarm them. But to that call on the whole matter of baptismal regeneration, if I may, and if I run out of time, I'll call you back another time with the angel of the Lord. But it's that conversation on baptismal regeneration kind of got to me. For encouragement for him, you know, I pretty much try to stick it very simple.
I usually ask a simple question with them. I say, do they believe that God has ever changed how he saves people? Has he ever changed his method, his manner, his means, the way in which he saves anyone? And generally, they'll go down this path and say, well, yes, he has. And I'll say, well, where?
How? And they'll point to the law saying that the Old Testament people were saved through the law, which I quickly shut that down by, because for the sake of time, I'll just say it to you. Obviously, you know the ways, but I will say something to the fact that, you know, the law never saved anyone. You know, it's impossible for the blood of fools to take away or remit. So God has saved people the exact same way over all the centuries. We're going to see David, we're going to see Ezekiel, we're going to see Elijah, we're going to see all of these prophets and peeps, saints of the Old Testament. They're going to be standing before our very Lord and Savior, before God the Father. Jesus said that unless someone is born again, he can't, he can't, he can't enter the Kingdom of Heaven. He's not going to get, you know, you have to be born again to get right with God.
So these people were saved, born again, by the eternal sacrifice that Jesus, the Lamb of God, takes away from the world. Well, let me ask you, do you have a question, though? Well, as I said, I was wanting to deal with the Angel of the Lord, but I can say that at a later time. What's your question on the Angel of the Lord? Because, you know, that's fine. Oh, okay.
Sure. When dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses, and I have different ways in which I deal with them, but I have a question on how do you address the whole matter of the Angel of the Lord? Is there a rule of thumb whenever you look in the Old Testament and you see this term Angel of the Lord? Is it referring to an angel that God created? Or at times is it referring to God himself, referring to himself as the Angel of the Lord? And I'm saying this in light of the fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses would like to state Jesus is Michael the Archangel.
And they'll use some of those references. Right. So the issue is... Do you have any particular way you deal with that? Yeah, it just depends on context.
I always look at the context and ask them to do the same thing. We've got a break, so hold on, and we'll talk a little more about that, okay? Hey folks, if you want to give me a call, all you've got to do is dial 877-207-2276. We will be right back after these messages. Welcome back to the show, everyone. Let's get back on the air with Eric from Charlotte, North Carolina.
You're on. Hey, this is Eric, and you're about to respond on the... How do you deal with the... Jehovah's Witnesses, Angel of the Lord. Yeah, do you have some favorite tactics or strategies when you deal with this whole discussion of... Go-to verses when it comes to the Angel of the Lord-ish?
Yeah. So what I'll do is just go to Exodus 6, 2, and 3. Now, they're going to say it's the Angel of the Lord. They're going to say that it's a created being. I'm going to say, okay, let's go to Exodus 6, 2, and 3. God spoke further to Moses and said to him, I am Yahweh. So I ask him, who is that? They can't say it's an Angel of the Lord because it says God spoke, not an angel.
Not a created thing. And it said that he identifies himself as being Yahweh, or Jehovah, to a Jehovah's Witness. And I just stick with them on that verse, Exodus 6, 2, because that's what it says. If they say it's an angel, it says, so an angel is God. It says God spoke further to Moses and said to him, I am Yahweh. Would an angel say, I am Yahweh?
Of course not. So they're going to have to say that it was God seen right there. And then verse 3, and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty. But my name, Yahweh, I did not make myself known to them. So he didn't reveal his name until later. So that's how I'll do this with them. And I specifically go there because to a Jehovah's Witness, they're going to teach that an angel was the one that was appearing in the Old Testament.
Pre-incarnate Michael, which has some logical problems, which I can share with you if you want to know. So I'll do that, and they'll say that's who it was seeing. And he said he appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty. And I just stick with the text.
They're going to give me all kinds of stuff. Well, you can't see God. I go, I agree.
What's it saying here? So John 1.18, no man has seen God any time. Only begotten Son and wisdom of the Father, he's explained him. I've done a study on that. And I have this all worked out.
So that's what I'll do. I'll sit there with them, and then I try and get them to understand that God Almighty was seen. And Jesus says in John 6.46, it was not the Father. So therefore, they were not seeing God the Father, who is God Almighty, but someone else who is God Almighty. Mr. Jehovah's Witness, who is it?
And that's the, it's really problematic for them. Okay. Okay. Those two verses I'll give you, you just pass them on.
Write them down, whatever, but if these are four, four through six. And 1 Corinthians 12, verse 13. You just have those on tap for that guy, back to that whole issue of baptism, where just let him know that the Bible tells him there's one Lord, one faith, one baptism. Right, I'm quite familiar.
That's right. Ephesians 4-5. I also recommend that they go to Carm and look up the section on baptism.
And I've got all kinds of articles and all kinds of things written on there and gone through that. Okay. Well, what I was about to say on that, and as well as 1 Corinthians 12-13, where it says, by one spirit. There are two types of baptism, those done by man, those done by God.
And one done by God, that has to be the only one that's the one baptism. Because man, I'm sorry? But you see, hold on, hold on, hold on. So, you're saying a lot of stuff here.
And, you know, they would have responses to each thing, and it would just be a dialogue of teaching how they respond and how to handle those. But I do recommend people just go to the baptism section on Carm. I've written out responses and stuff to help people out.
And that's the good way to do it. All right, buddy? Thank you so much, and I'm still praying for you. I appreciate your ministry.
Thanks, man. I appreciate that. All right. Well, God bless. All right.
Okay. Let's get, oh, let me get the phone number out. We have four open lines if you want to give me a call.
877-207-2276. Let's get to Juan from Canada. Juan, welcome. You're on the air. Hello, man. How are you doing? I'm doing all right, hanging in there.
What do you got, buddy? That's good. That wasn't my question, but my question is concerning Catholic doctrines. I mean, we're talking about Catholic doctrines, and so I thought about Immaculate Conception precisely. And I guess my question is a relationship to Leviticus 12. Leviticus 12?
So it goes, yeah, it goes like this. So Leviticus 12 actually speaks more precisely on the childbearing the woman will become unclean after delivering child. And it's in relationship to Luke 2, Luke chapter 2, verse 22, when the day of purification arrives. And so I just wanted to know how do you think Catholics would reconcile those two, and what is your take on that? They will say that she offered the sacrifice that was ritually required in order to comply with the law, not that she was sinful.
That's it? That's what they say? They would say that she was impure, but she was not sinful? They'd say that because it was an Immaculate Conception, which means her conception was immaculate, and the conception of Jesus within her is not Immaculate Conception.
That's for people who don't know. And so what they'll say is that because Mary was sinless, therefore she could never become unclean, even during childbirth. And so she merely complied with the requirements of the law, not that she needed to do so because of any uncleanliness in her. That's what they say.
You know, I've used the argument, I have an article on it. Yeah, that's interesting because I'm looking at it and I'm like, well, she must have considered herself to be impure. But at least that's the reason why she had to offer, they had to offer turtle doves and pigeons.
That's probably the only quotation from Luge. Yeah, it says she'd be unclean, but they'll say that she wasn't because she was unique. She's the mother of God, you can pray to her and she can answer your prayers as she appears to people, and there's no better way to conclude it by looking to Mary.
She crushed the head of the serpent. She's our holy mother. She's that idolatrous rants. And so they'll just say, no, she can't be unclean because she's so wonderful.
We pray to her and she's like a little goddess. So they'll just say things like, no, she was never sinless. I mean, she was sinless, but she never became unclean.
She just was complying with the requirements of the law. That's all. If you're reading in the context of Leviticus 12, it seems to be about sin offering.
Yes, it does. It is intimately related to sin. I mean, it's really hard for them to reconcile because when I'm looking at this, I don't think there's any way out of Jesus' offering. I don't think Jesus would offer animal sacrifice for himself because he'd never sinned.
I don't think he ever did. Yeah, and what they'll say is because it was God who was born through her, that it could not be that she would be impure. That's just what they say. In order to fulfill the requirements of the law because that's what she's supposed to do, not that she was sin that she ever sinned or was unclean in the process. Yeah, that's a very bad argument. I mean, it's a very bad argument if you think about it. Okay, so I guess my next question, I have a real quick question and then I'll go out because I know that there's other people behind.
I just want to give them a chance to ask a question. So I guess my next question is about urinating with Tom Jump. Remember Tom Jump? Oh, Tom Jump, yes. Yeah, I was just going to ask you, but I've watched a lot of his debates and I just wanted to know if in your history with debating atheists, you've debated Matt Delianti and several other atheists. I was just wondering if Tom Jump, if you feel like Tom Jump is probably the most divisive person you've ever debated.
One of the most. Yeah, he's like that, and we've had three encounters. I think it was three, and he thinks he did really well in the last one, and so he stopped pursuing me. He didn't do that well at all.
He did better than his other ones, but he's not that good. But he is evasive, and it's because he's given over to the depravity of his heart and his mind. You know, I debate him again and others. We had a debate coming up on baptism pretty soon, a debate on limited atonement. Oh, man. That would be an interesting topic.
Which one? That would be an interesting topic. But to be honest, watching debates, and I appreciate Tom Jump as an individual, but I think you're letting a little bit of arrogance in his response sometimes, a little evasive. What really, for me personally as a Christian looking at it, I felt like he wasn't dealing with any issues, he was constantly dodging questions, like asking to define every statement you're making, which personally I think that's dishonest.
Yeah, it's just a tactic. I just want to know how you felt in the debate. It's a tactic to waste time, which is why I like to have definitions up front, and so to define this, to define that. And, you know, it's fine to ask for a definition or two. I just got asked if I would debate, I mean, original sin today. And the opponent, I said, well, what is the opponent's definition of original sin?
Because that would influence where the topic of the debate is going to be and how it's going to be done. So, yeah, Tom Jump, he's not that aggressive. Okay? All right, buddy, there's a break. All right. All right, man. Have a good day. Thank you. You too.
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Let's get to Vekul from New York. Hey, buddy. How you doing?
Matt, you think you're so slick. What happened? And where have you been, man? Here and there, you know.
I'm still subscribed to the channel. And, yeah, and I listen, you know. Good. Well, that's because you're heretical. You need to listen all the time, whatever I tell you.
So that's how it has to be. Real quick, because I know you've got other calls. Again, I'll try to, you know, get a hold of you outside of the field. Yeah, you should. I'm going through a little bit of a conflict here. What, you started thinking again? Nothing.
Go ahead. Say it again. Nothing. I just insulted you. I just said, what, you started thinking again? You know, it just causes problems.
So you've been taking notes from my wife. But anyway, I'm going through a kind of a serious, a little bit of a serious issue with some of the sermon that my pastor has been preaching. I don't even know if I should have called because it's so convoluted and it takes a long time to really explain what he's doing.
But let me just kind of shorten it down as best as I can. It seems to me that my pastor is showing a little bit too much favor in his sermons towards the political left, towards the left. The ministry is set off to bring about racial reconciliation. But sometimes I feel like there's a lot of white people bashing, sort of. Like he's like a lot of sermons he has, sort of like kind of lecturing the white people in the congregation. Is he a black guy? No, he's a white guy.
Okay. And he considers himself conservative, but a lot of his sermons seem like there's a little bit of virtual signaling in it. And this last sermon that he had, he was, he just flat out said a whole bunch of things about Trump that were just not true. I understand people don't like Trump. Okay, I get it. Trump has a big mouth.
But if you're going to say stuff about him, please be factual about it. So, I don't know. There's a lot more that I'm leaving out, trust me. And once I explain it to you, then you'll say, ah, okay, now it makes sense. But I just want to get your advice on what should we do?
I'm just getting frustrated with, you're good. You go talk to him. What you do. That's going to be my second time talking to him.
Well, then go talk to him anyway. So what? Just because, you know, just because you've been, you know, second time talking to him or whatever, you have a right as a person listening to the sermons to bring up the issues about the sermon to him. And, you know, so if I were a pastor again and people came up and said, I have an issue with what you said, I'm going to listen.
Automatically, I'm going to listen. I'm not going to say, well, I can't be wrong. You know, I'm going to say, well, maybe I missed something.
Because that's always the possibility. And sometimes God uses people to bring things out and a good pastor needs to have one of those features. He needs to be able to listen and listen to the congregational members. So you need to do that.
You know, if you've got an issue, get it together as in what he said and what sermon it was and that you think he's, you know, possibly virtue signaling. You want to go with a witness. You want to go with a witness.
You don't want to be one-on-one with a guy. Just trust me on that one. Go the witness. And someone who has the same issue, it's not because they don't trust him. It's just you need witnesses.
That's what it has to do. Go with a witness. And you're very, very respectful, very careful. And you say you're having some concern with this.
And then just, you know, just talk to him. You're a smart guy. Don't let your wife know I said that. But you're smart.
What's that? Is she listening? You said you called me a smart guy. I said speak for yourself. My wife called me all kinds of stuff. But at any rate, usually irritating follows someplace inside the sentence. But I say I just tell her, hey, you said I do. So you're done.
And she runs her forehead a lot. But that's what you've got to do. You've just got to go talk to him with love, you know. And just back up what you're saying. And get your thoughts written out so that you can understand what's going on. And see what he says. Because maybe he's doing it and he's not aware of it.
And it could be certainly a possibility. And so when people call me up on the radio and they criticize me on the air, which happens every now and then, I listen to them. Or if they email me, I listen because I want to know. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe I'm doing something right. And so I'm open to that. And he should be open to that as well. If you're not open to it, then you have another problem. That's not to say he has to agree with you and everything.
But he has to be open to talk to you, you know. And then maybe you're just blowing smoke and you don't know it. You could be just a complete doofus from what I remember.
So it's possible. Hey, that sounded kind of personal, that part right there. That's because I know you, you know.
We were driving along and everything. I mean, oh, you know. Yeah, it took me years to get over that. Well, I wanted to say, see, I didn't want to be that guy, you know. You are that guy.
Huh? What do you mean you don't want to be that guy? You have the issue.
You know what the issue is. You're already the guy. Go be the guy. I don't want to be that guy who people have to walk around eggshells. Like, you know, whenever it's a Sunday and I'm sitting in the pews and he's preaching, he has to look at me as if he's, you know, got my approval, you know.
And I don't want to be that guy to anybody. Yes, you do. Oh, yeah, you do. Because you have to sit close enough for him to be able to see you go do things like, what? And, you know, slap your forehead and bug your eyes out and shake and just look at him like, are you serious? That kind of thing.
You know, and just be the guy. It's a lot of fun. I do that. And pastors hate me.
They just tell me to leave and the elders throw me out. But the other than that, it's not that bad. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Well, all right. I just wanted to get to say, because it's been frustrating both myself and my wife.
My wife is almost kind of pulling like a Job's wife kind of role here. It's just like, you know, why don't you just leave? Just leave the church. We should just leave. No, you've got to settle it. You've got to settle it. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And you still have my phone number, right? I believe I do. I know how to contact you. All right. Call me and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
We'll change cell numbers, okay? Keep in contact because you're pretty nice a guy. You're okay.
You know, you're kind of up there. All right, buddy. All right, man.
Well, God bless you. Good day. Hey, by the way, you know, I don't like to talk about myself too much, but I do have a birthday today.
You do have a birthday today? Yeah. Mental age or physical age? Yeah, that's debatable.
That's debatable. No, no. Okay. Happy birthday. Yeah, I turned 47. Oh, dude, you're a lot older than I thought you were. Man.
I did that a lot. Man, you should be a lot more mature than you. I do want to talk about the way how pretty I look. Well, that's not going to happen. That's not happening. No way. Hey, you look pretty.
Not happening. All right. All right, buddy. All right. Well, Matt, it's good talking to you again, and God bless you.
Keep up the good work, and yeah. Okay, man. God bless you too. All right, buddy. God bless. All right. God bless. All right. Yeah, he's a great guy. We should talk a lot a while back. All right.
Let's get to Jason from Arkansas. Whoa, whoa. I can't hear you.
Are you there? Hey. We've got a lot of background. Yes, sir. All right. I was going to ask you, why was God pleased whenever Jesus was baptized? Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't hear the whole question.
What was it? Why was God pleased whenever Jesus was baptized? Because Jesus was doing the will of the Father. It's why he was sent. John 6, 38. And he had to fulfill the law because he was made under the law of Galatians 4, 4. And he had to do this as part of the eternal covenant out of Hebrews 13, 20. Okay.
Are you there? I'm not hearing you. You just. Romans 8, 8. The law would not please him.
Just because you obey the law does not necessarily mean he's going to be pleased. Well, that's, it says the flesh, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8, 8. Was Jesus in the flesh? Yes, sir. There you go. Was Jesus in the flesh?
Yes, sir. He was in the flesh so he cannot please the Father by being in the flesh. Do you know what it means to be in the flesh or that the term means? Yes, not of the Father. In the flesh means that you're acting in a fleshly, sinful way. Did Jesus ever sin? Yeah. Did Jesus ever sin? No, sir. He was of God, of God sent him to do his Father, do of his will.
Okay. Do you believe that Jesus is God in flesh? I believe he was sent down as the begotten Son, not of the Spirit, but of the begotten Son. Okay, let me ask you another question. Do you believe Jesus was God in flesh? That's the question I'm asking you now.
What's the answer? I feel that it happened whenever he was being baptized. Okay, let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you another question. Was Jesus God in flesh? Do you affirm that or deny that? Whenever he baptized, yes. No, born as a baby. Do you believe he's God in flesh? No, he was born as the begotten Son. He was born as the begotten Son whenever he came to the earth. Alright, Jason.
Yes, sir. You're not a Christian and you believe false doctrine and you need to repent. You need to understand that it's the Word that was God that became flesh. John 1, 1 and verse 14.
Whenever he was being baptized, the Word became flesh. That's what King James even states. No, it's not what it says.
King James chapter. No, that's what it says. Not what it says. You do not know what the truth is.
You do not know. He didn't become divine at his baptism. That's a heresy that's been refuted countless times throughout the centuries. You're teaching heresy.
So baptism pleased him, though. That was a word. Okay, listen to me. I'm talking about Jesus. What you do is you ignore what I say. You move on. You don't listen.
You have a hard heart and you are kicking against the goads. You're not believing in a true Christ. Your number one problem is you've got to understand who Jesus is. If you don't affirm who Christ is, you're going to be on your way to eternal damnation. That's the way it is. That's the issue. You need to focus on that.
Go to my website. Read the articles about who Jesus is. Go to the scriptures. He did not become God at his baptism. He did not become divine.
That is denial of the incarnation. Well, how do you please him, though? Okay, you don't listen. Okay, I'll tell you what.
Instead of me getting frustrated with someone who doesn't listen, I already told him how God pleased him, how he pleased the Father and what he needs. Bellini from Greensboro, welcome. You're on the air. Are you there? Hello, Bellini? Hello?
Yes. Hello? You're on the air. We've got about a minute.
Hi, buddy. Yeah, actually, I just have a question. Okay. Because I see Sam Shamoon. Yes. And Sam Shamoon and another Christian, I apologize, Roman Catholic.
Yeah, I know Sam. Are you talking about Mary is interceded for, they believe, I mean, for Roman Catholic people? Yeah, Mary cannot intercede, of course. Yeah.
My question is, can Mary hear our prayer? So I'm going to hang up the phone and you just explain it. All right, we've got to hurry because we're almost out of time. Okay, thank you so much. I'm going to hang up the phone and listen to you. Thank you.
Okay, thanks. No, Mary, we don't know if Mary can or cannot hear our prayers. The Bible doesn't say yes or no. The Roman Catholic Church makes up too much about Mary. We're out of time. Why doesn't someone call me tomorrow and ask me to explain and spend some time talking about Mary according to Roman Catholicism?
Because I'll tell you, they make her into a goddess and it's idolatrous and it's false. May the Lord bless you and by His grace, folks, we'll be back on here tomorrow. We'll talk to you then. See you. God bless. We'll be right back.
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