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Hey, Matt. God bless. God bless. I got two questions.

Let's start with this first one. It's from 1 Peter, chapter 3, starting in verse 18. And I believe what I see goes, of course, in contact with 19 and on.

But it says, can you read it there, just 18? Yeah. For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust so that he might bring us to God, having put to death, uh, been put to death in the flesh and made alive in the spirit in which he went, uh, made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who was disobedient, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah. Um, where it says right there, um, put to death in the flesh and made alive in the spirit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it also referring to the following verse where he goes to those to preach in prison, meaning that Christ isn't like, uh, I don't know if this is correct to say, but like in the, in a spirit form, is that what it's saying? At his death. Okay.

First let's back up before that. What's called the incarnation, the hypostatic union that there's two distinct natures in the one person of Christ. This hypostatic union cannot be dissolved by the death of the physical body of Christ. The nature of Christ's humanity, the truth of who Christ is, what he's done is always there and always true. And so, uh, in the spirit form, let's just say without his body, uh, he was still in the hypostatic union, two per two, uh, not two persons, but, uh, two natures in one person. And so, uh, it just in that, and so in the spirit, he was alive and, uh, he went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, in the prison. So we're not exactly sure what that means, but it looks like what he was doing was simply, uh, what I'd lean towards is he was informing the bad spirits and stuff of why they're in trouble.

Um, I think it was, yeah, because it was not evangelizing, but it was proclaiming. Okay. There's debate on it though, but there's debate on that. That's my position.

That's what I hope. Yeah. Cause I see that. I mean, well, I mean, it's not really clear.

There's so, so, and then, um, well, thank you for that. And so, and the other one is from Exodus, uh, 30 starting in verse 23 and 24 together. And can you read those things? Sure. Take two, uh, take also for yourselves the finest spices of myrrh and 500 shekels, fragrant cinnamon, 250 fragrant. Yeah.

And kesha 500, according to the shekel of sanctuary and all of it. Okay. What about it? Uh, the last one that, um, that the Lord is saying to Moses, the last, um, I don't know, correct me if I'm, but I saw this, uh, it was a commercial, um, YouTube where I was trying to, uh, and they kind of just caught my attention where this guy, he was, he said he's a pastor and he was saying that the last one was, we, I mean, mistransited that the actual word is kind of bolts where we get the word cannabis. Is that correct?

Or is he just going, um, no, looking at the, uh, the Hebrews, no, that's incorrect. Okay. Yeah. Cause I looked it on the, on the, um, concordance and everything and they talked about a flower, uh, like a water flower. It says, it says an, you know, an olive oil of him. That's what he's talking about. Well, I don't, I don't know. He just said that he talked about, uh, cannabis.

That's what he said. So, and then it kinda, you know, as we do know that the cannabis. Okay. Okay.

Okay. So it's word cinnamon, um, kind of about, yeah. So it looks like it might be phonetically what that is.

Um, but it's, it's, uh, Ken naman. So maybe that's what he's talking about, but it's cinnamon. Um, that's what it is.

Fragrant cinnamon 250 case. Yeah. Uh, so no, that's not it either. So no, I don't know what he's saying. Okay. Oh, okay. I just want to just get your thought of it, but also think about this. Let's just say it was, let's just say that the word was pronounced that way in Hebrew.

Let's just say it. Well, cannabis is Latin. It's a Latin form for designating a certain kind of a plant.

Does that mean that they were in tune with the Latin forms of a plant designation back in Hebrew? No, no. So, okay. It's just, people read into the Bible sometimes. Just, just like, come on. I just want to say, stop it.

You know, just flicker. I guess what he was getting at with that is that this is the recipe for, this is the reason why, like, uh, Adam and back then Moses lived as many years as they live. Okay. That guy's whacked. Yeah. That's the recipe to make you live a long time. Yeah.

Then he went for $29.95. He'll send you his special blend. Is that what it is? Yeah. Um, I just wanted to get your thought of it.

That's fine. Yeah. My thought of it is that the guy's full of crud. He was reading from second moronicals, right? Yes. Second moronicals. And, uh, he was getting down deep into it. Uh, probably his advances, third moronicals.

He really went for it probably. Yeah. Okay.

That should be it. Thank you very much. All right, Nelson, man.

God bless. All right. Hey folks, we have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, all you got to do is dial 877-207-2276. Let's get to bill from Charlotte, North Carolina. Good. Hey bill.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hello, Matt. Hello. Hello, Matt.

This is bill from Charlotte. How are you, sir? I'm doing all right, man. I'm all right.

What do you got? Well, it's just a simple question. How could you say that you believe in Christ, father Christ and vote for a Democrat? People can, um, I know if I could get a kick out of that. Yeah. Uh, I would recommend, I'd recommend that people go onto Netflix.

I think it's Netflix or is it, um, Netflix I'll probably get rid of because there's stupid stuff they're doing lately. But, uh, Oh yeah. The child porn, the child porn called cuties. Yeah.

Cuties. That's right. I'm gonna get rid of Netflix because of that. But there's a video called, uh, Hillary's America. And I strongly recommend that everybody, uh, check that out. Denise de Souza produced it and, uh, it goes through the history, history of the democratic party. The democratic party was the party that supported slavery, that supported the KKK and that fought against equal rights in the sixties.

People don't know that. Oh yeah. And, uh, yeah. Well, so one, and one more thing I would say, how could anybody support the burn, loot and murder, uh, organization? Because we know that they're, they're Marxist, pro homosexual, pro abortion, anti traditional mom and dad's family, whatever.

I mean all that stuff. And you know, I live in Charlotte, there's a, there's a church called victory Christian center, a really good pastor named pastor Robin ghoul. And I saw a video the other day, you know, the video where there's a dude doing a radio show is a, I don't know, I'd say young, I'm 60, probably 30, 20, 30 year old black guy with the glasses and a tie. And he's got a dude in the studio and he's playing that. He's playing that zoom audio of the founder of BLM and in, in, in LA where she's talking about calling on dead spirits. I think she thinks she got one name.

Well, Keisha, she'd never met and all that. You heard that, right? No, but I want, I want to see it.

You got to send me that information. Well, it's a video, the video and the dude, the dude's a believer and he's like, how could you know, he's black guy, how can we support this group? This woman's calling on spirits of the dead.

That's, that's witchcraft. Cause you know, when they do their rallies, they go say their name, say their name. Well, that's kind of the way of chanting, trying to call spirits of the dead down. So pastor ghoul, who pastors really large black church in my town, he said, well, I'm getting ready to show a video and now none of us in here should be offended by it. But maybe if you're offended out there, that's a good thing.

You need to be offended. And he played the video where the dude was kind of telling what that matters, that that movement's all about. And then he, then it came back to pastor saying, yeah, you know, how could you as a believer support that movement? And, and you know, what really chaffed my butt, but it's good for me, you know, the pro sports league NFL given 250 million to it.

Did they not even read the website and realize that it's an anti-American organization? Well, I'm with you man. And lucky for me, I don't watch sports. I lost interest.

I don't know, 40, 50 years ago. I just don't care about sports. And, uh, you know, I know that, uh, the NFL's ratings are just plummeting. People don't, we want sports in order to escape, in order to have fun, not to get preached at with, with, uh, you know, politically correct crap.

We don't want that. You know, it's just, I'm so sick of it. I gave up sports when, when players just were trading here, they're going for money, you know, there's no respect. So I gave it up, but at any rate, uh, I'm with you. Along that same line, Matt, along that same line, Matt, you remember earlier when Hong Kong was getting, getting dogged because the communist China and Daryl Morey, who's the general manager of the Houston Rockets said, we stand with, uh, with Hong Kong.

Now at the time a bunch of NBA players were doing a little tour over there and, and, and, and, uh, and the quitter, the quitter, James made a comment. He goes, yeah, he needs to be re-educated again. And they talk about being woke. Well, how come we're not woke about the communist oppression? Or how come they're not woke about the innocent people getting murdered in one of the highest gun control cities in the country, Chicago. We don't hear about those murders. Those lives don't seem to matter. It's just the guys, just the guys who don't, who don't obey the commands of the officers when they're, when they're being questioned here and then here and then, you know, maybe they, they get shot.

I'm not saying it's because it was right, but you know, when we obey the officers commands, they typically don't beat us up or shoot it. Well, you know what? Um, this is, I'll, I'll tell you this, this really happened to me March of, uh, 2018. Um, I got a phone call or 2019.

It was, yeah, 2019. I get a phone call. This is the, uh, police department come downstairs. What, what? So I go downstairs, I don't know what's going on, and open the front door and there are cops everywhere with their guns pointed at me. This, this is for real, not making this up. And what had happened is someone had called up and said that, uh, quote, my name is Matt Slick.

I just shot and killed my wife. Close quote. That's what the cops told me. So they came there. They had paramedics, they had, uh, sheriffs, they had police, they had an ambulance, fire department.

So it was called getting swatted. So I, they said, come outside. I came outside. I did exactly what they said. I had my phone in my hand.

This was at night. I dropped my phone, according to what they said. And if you want, I'll tell you what happened afterwards to get a break. Hey folks, give me a call. We'll be right back after these messages. We have three open, four open lines, 877-207-2276. Please give me a call. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show. Bill, are you still there? Yes, Matt. I'm still here, sir.

All right. So I figured I might as well finish my story because people are like, what? Um, so, uh, I remember, you know, they had the guns point at me and this is nine o'clock at night and I could see the rifles and their pistols pointed at me behind the cars and the whole bit.

I had no clue what was going on, but I knew it was a mistaken identity thing of some sort. And so they said, you know, sort on your, you know, drop your phone. So I put my phone down.

I even took my son, my reading glasses off my normal glasses and he'd put your hands up. And I did. And they said, walk forward, come out here, stop, you know, turn around, stop or lift up your shirt. I did what I could, um, walk backwards 15 steps, stop, move to your left. I did exactly what they said. And these were, these were loaded weapons on me. And I just did what they said. They handcuffed me and then they, they drugged me, not drug me, but they, uh, they just walked me gently.

They did a great job. Uh, they brought, walked him back and, and, um, they asked me, where's your wife? And I said, she's under the window right over there. Uh, which wasn't a good choice of words considering that someone had said I shot my daughter. And, um, because, and they said, we'll have her come out.

Well, she can't, she just had had open heart surgery and she's recovering from stuff. So, you know, uh, they went in and they cleaned the house and they hold the whole bit. And then afterwards they, uh, you know, uncuffed me and the whole thing and, and cause they put me in a squad car and they came out and said, do you know, uh, anybody who'd want to do this to you? And I laughed.

I said, man, it's a lot of people. And, uh, I got a witness to the cops and one of them stayed after and I got to talk to him a little bit longer. But you know what I told the cops, I said, look, you guys did a great job. I wasn't worried because I knew that this was a mistake of some sort. I'll just do exactly what you said. Everything's going to be fine. And everything was fine. No big deal.

That's what I did. You know, what if it was a car and I was walking towards it and I opened up a door and I'm reaching into the car. They don't know what I'm doing. They don't know what I got in the car. They don't know if I'm reaching for a gun and somebody disobeys like that when you had guns on you and you head to a vehicle. If that one guy did and he got shot, I don't blame them. Blame the cops are shooting them.

I would, I mean, you don't know what the guy's going to do. You know, that guy, they shot in the back. They could have paid, but either way, we obey their commands.

They typically don't beat us up or shoot us. That's right. Just do what they say.

Come on. And that's it. And, and you know, I've been through it and I mean, lots of cops, lots of them and sheriffs.

That's right. And they, they thought I'd killed my wife. I mean, so they didn't know there was paramedics there. Wait or an ambulance.

They're waiting ready. I mean, seriously. Tell me something. So, so whoever made the call, don't they typically have a way to know where that came from to identify that caller? No, no, this one, they, we talked about it and they, um, they got away with it. But the people who threatened my family before, uh, didn't.

And, um, the FBI got involved with that one, but that's another story at another time. So anyway, well, you know, we know that we know the liberal narrative, what now, what, what used to be, well, we was, when we were growing up, what good was good and what's bad was bad, but now it's exactly the opposite. That's right.

That's Isaiah five 20. Beware of those who call evil good and good evil. That's exactly what's happening here. And I would suggest that people start studying the Gestapo and the, uh, tactics that they used to brainwash people. In fact, with the gender 21, which is the sexualization of, um, very, very young children in first, second, third grade, trying to get them to be involved in pornography and other things.

It's in 27 States right now. And they're talking about teaching kids about sex and, and, uh, more than just that. No, we're talking about, I gotta be careful because there's kids around in a radio and stuff, but, but involvement and how to's and what for's and saying, don't listen to your mom and dad's morality and things like that. It's, it's a way of undermining and weakening the families in America. This is for the destruction of our, of our country. Yes, there's a, yeah, it is.

Well, there's more stuff. It's illegal in certain States. It's illegal in certain States. If, if, if my, my wife and I have a boy, he says, yeah, I have same sex attraction, but I know it's wrong. I want to get some counseling to fight those feelings. That's illegal in California and many other States. Yeah.

People's Republic of California where, um, the governor just signed into law, uh, lessening the penalties of pedophilia. Yeah. So we are a lot of trouble. I mean, the Christian church needs to stand up and I mean, it needs to stand up and it needs to be marching in the streets. The Christians need to stop about the difference of pre-trib, post-trib rapture and, and stuff like that and start marching in the streets and don't believe this pre-trib rapture stuff we're going to get out.

That's just a hopeful dream. We've got to start fighting for what's right. And we had to fight a court of the law.

And if we don't, then the unbelievers are going to be the ones who are going to take over and they won't deal nicely with us. Just think of Nazi Germany. When people said, Hey, it won't happen in Nazi Germany. The people who got in control were demonically led and they went after God's people. They're going to do the same thing here. They're already starting to, um, uh, damage churches, but the media is not covering it. Churches are being attacked. Well, you mentioned marching, you know, the march for life every year, that gets no media coverage. Right. But if you get 14, uh, leftists protesting something, you know, it's front page news all over the place, but you get 50,000 pro-lifers marching the news, which is complicit with, uh, in my opinion, the attempted downfall of America with their leftist agenda. I don't understand how any Christian who studied anything could vote leftist or vote for Biden or vote for Camilla Harris or ever, ever voted for Obama. I don't understand anybody with the demo. Yeah, I agree.

Anybody's got a diva side of him. It's satanic more or less, you know, D E M you started off, but, uh, yeah, I would say to people go research the democratic party's history. They have all unanimously, they've been on the side of pro-slavery, um, anti, uh, integration. And, uh, they were the KKK.

They're the ones who fought, uh, against good things. And it's the Republicans who I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, but it was the Republicans who fought for the freedom of, of the slaves and, uh, other things it's documented, but the news media is so stinking leftist that you just can't trust them. So that's why I recommend everybody go to go to get your phones and get up, get the app called, um, conservative news pro pay a buck 50, whatever it is to get the, the pro version and, uh, support it. Conservative news pro you get all kinds of other information out there that the leftist media won't tell you. Okay. And get the conservative Chronicle and, um, Oh, there's another one I've got. I forgot.

Let me check it. I wonder, I want to support this stuff. You know, I mean, you know, I answered Bible questions and theological questions, but also along with this as a necessity of Christians to stand up and fight against unrighteousness because that's biblical as well. And politics is part of the discussion on what the news is. It's part about everything.

Epic times get the epic times and yeah, epic times is quite good. Also just get the Christian post and the conservative news pro and, uh, you know, get informed people, but I'm gonna tell you, start praying. How can we as Christians be United to move against the leftist agenda? Because their, their goal is for the destruction of America. The, um, the, the crim, ultimately the criminalization of Christianity and the, uh, perversion as, uh, as a legislative norm of sexual perversions. And then if you don't agree with them, you're the one who needs to be read re-educated. This is this kind of stuff is what God judges nations for.

And he judges them harshly. Well, so we want to say, buddy, God bless. Hey man, call back tomorrow. We'll talk tomorrow. Okay.

All right. Hey folks, be right back after these messages, please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Let's get on the lines with John from Boise, Idaho. Hey John, welcome. You're on the air. Hello, Matt. Thanks for taking my call. Sure. Hey, close by.

I live in Nampa. Don't know if we've met or not before, but anyway, my volume is really bad. I'm having a hard time hearing. My question is about annihilationism versus no eternal torment. Yes. And the question is, is it typical for an annihilationist to say there is no such thing as hell? No, they just reinterpret hell. Um, and so what they'll say is that hell there's, there's different, well, different annihilationists hold different views. And so some will say hell is simply the grave of non-existence and others will go so far as to say that it's actual fire and torment.

But after a period of time when you've, so to speak, paid your debt, then you're annihilated. So there's, those are the extremes and then they fall in between those as well. Okay.

So it's not typical. A person was trying to prove to me that there's no such thing as hell in the Bible and he sent me an Edward Fudge video, which I've found you addressed him on the farm.org website. But he's saying that Edward Fudge says there's no such thing as hell. No, he's an annihilationist, but there's still hell in annihilation theory, right? Yeah. And some degrees of it.

Yeah. And if you've seen my articles, I wrote 180 articles on annihilationism. I found out that Fudge, uh, I wouldn't say lied, but he definitely got things wrong.

I just in fact checking on some of this stuff and caught him in it. And, um, you know, he was, obviously he was putting his annihilationist ideas into the scriptures, but he made several mistakes. Um, and I checked him, but, uh, you know, that's the view with annihilationists and it's, it's a false view. It's a heretical view. It doesn't mean they're not Christians, but there are some serious ramifications that deal with the human nature that can affect the nature of the atoning work. Because if they're going to say that people cease to exist at their death, then that would mean that the hypostatic union was annihilated at Christ's death, which would then deny the true nature of the incarnation. And some say that, well, he went into soul sleep. Well then, then how can that be? The hypostatic union is in jeopardy with soul sleep because there's no attribution and work of the soul at this point.

But then there's, again, more complicated things. But, uh, you know, I've, I've had a standing debate offer with Chris Date, one of the proponents of this, to discuss the issue as it relates to his view that the soul ceased to exist upon death and how it relates to the sufficiency of the atoning work. Because that view is, is flat out heretical and it's close to damnable heresy.

And, uh, you know, depending on what his particular view in a nuanced varying position would be, which is why I'm being as gentle as I am about it, but annihilationism is, is, is very problematic. Okay. Very good.

That answered my question and it helps a lot. Thanks. All right, man. God bless, buddy.

All right. That was join, join, man. John from right here in Boise. Let's get to Cade.

That's kind of a cool name from Ohio. Hey Cade. Welcome here on the air. Hey there.

Hey there. I will first want to thank you for all you've done, Matt. I know it's, it's a lot of effort and it's a lot of, uh, apologetics.

My friend calls it a pile of headaches, you know, um, so, so anyway, I want to, yeah, I want to thank you for that. But my question was concerning early Christian writing and I don't know if you've done, so if you do a basic Google search and you've probably done this before, what comes up is early writing, uh, early Christian writing.org by, I think it's Peter Kirby. Are you familiar with that? No. Okay. So, uh, he has one of the best collections of the translations of early Christian writing and then the, the reference early references to Jesus to say Josephus, Tacitus, Deuteronius, these things.

Okay. But the problem here, the problem here is, um, he, he himself is more agnostic. I don't think he's a believer anymore. And, uh, his basically his, um, detail work is what he says about the documents are of the most critical or skeptical nature. Even the dates are given late dates. So the problem is I want to show Christians all the evidence for Christ, which is great, but one of the first things they click on is this site, which has all the translations, which are good, but then they have late dates and they have really, uh, you know, critical scholarship there. So, um, I guess my challenge for you and for maybe others is to have more of a collection of those sources where we can go to, or maybe, you know, the site where you can go to Christians can go to and learn about these early sources without all of this, um, you know, kind of propaganda basically.

It's a huge undertaking. And, um, I didn't know that was out there, but now I do. Thanks for ruining my day and make me worry about this now. Appreciate that. That's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

This is, this has kind of been on my mind for a while now because I'm a history major. Okay. Um, yeah, I'm looking at it and, uh, yeah, it's got all kinds of stuff in there. So yeah.

Anyway, I'm not sure what to say right now, uh, but, oh, I see what he's doing. Putting the dates, uh, Corinthians 50 to 60. Okay.

Uh, Gospel of Matthew, 80 to 100. That doesn't make any sense. Uh, yeah.

So he's dating things late. What do we do with the book of Acts? Cause that would be interesting. The book of Acts, he puts it 80 to 130.

That's ridiculous. Um, the book of Acts, uh, contains, uh, you know, the history of the early church and it does not even mention the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, nor does it contain the death of Peter and Paul, uh, which occurred around 62 AD. And so you'd think that Luke, who's a historian, would write and would include these super important things, particularly since, uh, he recorded the death of, of, uh, of Thomas, Thomas.

Oh man, I am tired to get my sleep last night. Um, Stephen, sorry, in Acts chapter 7, 55 through 60. And so, uh, the fact that Acts doesn't contain that, uh, is, is strong evidence that it was written beforehand.

So he's just holding to liberal idiocy. And then we get to the Gospel of Luke, which is written before. Where's Luke?

Um, I mean, I would date Luke in the Testament between 50 and 70, not, you know, past that point. Um, so, you know, based upon, you know, and I study history too, so yeah. Yeah, he's a liberal wacko. Uh, he doesn't, uh, he's just going for the liberal stuff.

So that's all that's going on there. Uh, unfortunately he's got his information out and people don't know how to deal with it. Um, the next higher critical question is if Luke can actually, yeah, he's done a lot of work, uh, written by the same person who was that person, you know, Spanish people that started the Gospel.

Papyrus Bodmer, you know, 200 CE. Oh boy. Yeah.

It would just take a major effort of some, someone to come in and deal with these things. Uh, it's just a huge effort. So, yeah.

Yeah. He's basically taking the most critical approach. These scholars who reject a lot of it, and then they date it late, even though parts of it, of course, do date to the 30, even 40 to talk about the passion narrative and the, the early creed. Of course they date early, but I would date most of it between 50 and 70 at least the final edition of what we have.

And so, uh, I think what he's doing is really misleading people. It's a great website to find the text or the translation, but it's not for the whole details of the, uh, commentary and the dates. Yeah, I would agree. Uh, yes, we did arrange the data. Okay.

50 to 120 AD. But, uh, yeah, I find that, uh, when people bring this stuff up to me about the late dates of all this information, uh, I just bring up the book of action, the facts, and I say, why is it that they didn't include this? And it's a very, very, very, very important question. And I don't know if he addresses that in there, but, uh, you know, and Luke has written before that.

So it's just lends itself to very early stuff, not late, like these guys are doing. And the evidence is right there. And I've really shut a lot of people up with this, that, that questioning about the book of action, this historical record of what it does have and what it doesn't have. So, okay.

Yeah. So I challenge you, Matt, to, uh, to address this or include more of the text and some commentary on your website. Well, I, one of the things I've wanted to do was, is I've got a lot of church father's information there, but we need, okay, good. The fact is I just need help. Literally I'm working 50, 60 hour weeks.

I'm just converting the site over from, uh, Drupal into WordPress. You got a full-time guy in, um, in Utah. We've got a full-time guy in Columbia, a full-time guy in Brazil and the other guy in Turkey.

Uh, we got a guy in Malawi, South Africa area. And, you know, it's just a great deal of work. I have over 650 questions. I haven't even gotten to yet. I've got 200 roughly, I think it's 200, uh, preachers and teachers I'm supposed to get to, supposed to write on the social justice stuff and the new apostolic information.

And I'm telling you, and, uh, we don't have the funds to be able to hire other writers and researchers to do the work that needs to be done. And that's just what it is right now. So, you know, everybody got to go. Thank you. All right, man. Thank you.

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Hey, thank you so much. I am trying to understand, uh, in Genesis, the 42nd chapter, the birth of number 24. It, uh, after the Joseph wept about his brothers, then he gave orders to fill their bags with, um, every man's money. What, what kind of money was used between Egypt and, and where the brothers lived up in Canaan?

I don't know. Um, but probably, uh, gold, silver, because they would have to have some form of commerce, uh, between, uh, the countries. And, uh, they could use like silver cups were often used for training.

Salt was used as cinnamon spices. So it could be used in different forms, different ways. The word money doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Um, I wouldn't know that that was written. I wouldn't know in that particular case if it does or doesn't, but I would assume it was some form of coinage because the metal coins do go back very, very long time. So, uh, it's that, so they did have different ways of, of, um, you know, like, uh, a, uh, uh, bushel of, of wheat might be worth a certain value. You can trade it, but it became easier to do coinage because, uh, it can become standardized at that point. So they, I'm sure they had something there like that. So they would be considered wealthy? I don't know because wealthy is kind of a subjective term, but, uh, I'm sure they were, they were, they were prosperous, I would say. Okay.

Cause I'm the same time. I don't know if I read the Bible, right, but things catch my eye and then it makes me wonder. Cause like in the, in then going to the, um, new Testament in acts, um, chapter 31, I mean, chapter eight, verse 30, the Phillip and the, uh, Ethiopian prophet. And he said, do you understand what you're reading? So I was wondering, where did he get a copy of the scrolls of the old Testament, the Ethiopian eunuch? Oh, I don't know where, but he did. Uh, eunuchs were often used to guard, um, in palaces. And so, uh, the implication is there.

He could have had access to some real riches and some powerful people who might've had documents like that. So that's generally unusual. I wouldn't consider it to be that, that unusual. Uh, and incidentally, I just read the Bible and then go ahead.

I'm sorry. When I read the Bible and all of a sudden something like that comes up and I'm thinking, well, I'm thinking pragmatically, like in 2020 terms, like, wow, what, how did that guy get bad? Or how did they, what kind of money did they use? I don't know.

That's why the eunuch, that's why the eunuchs were used in palaces and usually in rich homes and things like that for, um, special privileges and varying things where they would guard and didn't have to worry about them. Didn't have to worry about, um, oh, the ladies forget my drift. Okay. And incidentally, would he have gone back and you, then would he have gone back and like spread the news down there? And I don't know. We would think so, but don't know. Might've. But back in Genesis 42 in verse, in verse 35, it says they put the money in the sack.

So it was probably coinage, just so you know. Yeah. All right, buddy. Okay. We get a lot of callers wait.

I want to get to them. All right, buddy. Okay. All right.

Let's get the bill from California bill. Welcome. You're on the air.

Hey Matt, thanks for taking my call. Sure. Sure. Hey, um, I know the Bible says that God hates.

Yes. What does he hate? And I hate people, but does he, I'm going to give you a few examples.

Does he hate certain president candidates that support abortion and almost such a marriage? Probably. So would it be wrong to say that? Cause people get offended by it. No, they can get offended.

All they want. I don't care. Um, they can, you know, I don't, they don't like something doesn't mean it's not true. Truth doesn't care about your feelings.

And so, um, if we go to Psalm five, five, that's what it says. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes. You hate all who do iniquity promoting homosexuality, pedophilia, um, abortion.

Uh, these are, uh, definite, uh, iniquities. And so God would have hatred towards them. Absolutely.

I don't see why that would be a problem. And Psalm, Psalm, Psalm 11, Psalm five, five, Psalm 11, five says the Lord test the righteous and the wicked and the one who loves violence. His soul hates. So I just heard, uh, on, um, uh, the blaze, what's his name? I'm just bad with names. Glenn Beck.

Thank you very much. I was listening to this morning. I had to go run an errand and, um, interviewing the guy who said that, uh, he was, I don't get, didn't get all the details.

Well, I got the last part of it. So there was a film crew that was, that looked like they were really legitimate, had the equipment, had the whole bit, and they, uh, were lying and they went into a crowded area, were able to get through the police the whole bit. And then, um, started accusing this one individual that they were, Glenn Beck was interviewing, saying, he's a racist, he's this, he caused that, he caused this, and basically trying to get him killed. And so, uh, this is most about what I heard.

The police came in and saved him. And so he was very, you know, traumatized by this. And so these people loved violence. They were promoting violence.

They want violence. And the Bible says the one who loves violence, his soul hates. So that's what the Bible says.

These are imprecatory Psalms. And, uh, you know, God loves all of the world. You know, God's the blonde haired, blue eyed, Caucasian surfer Jesus. That's not who Christ is. And, uh, God is righteous. And he is a God of war at some time, and a God of peace at others. But the Bible does say that he, um, um, hates the wicked.

And it says upon the wicked, he will rain snares, fire and brimstone, and burning wind will be the portion of their cup. And that's what it says in Psalm 11-6. Yeah, because, um, my sister in the Lord, uh, supports Jill Biden.

She put her on Facebook. And I said, God hates Jill Biden, but he supports abortion and homosexual marriage. God hates him.

And I'm telling you, everybody on the Facebook came against me. He started quoting Psalm 5-5. Go back there and scroll to Psalm 5-5. You guys can all resist the true and living God in your unrighteousness. And if you love these things, then God hates you as well. But you need to turn and repent and come to the saving faith in Christ.

Because if you don't, the judgment of God will come down upon you strong on that final day. Just preach them the truth. They don't like it. Not your problem. Okay. Yeah.

I'm like, I lost a couple of sins. Oh, who cares? I mean, it's the truth.

Like, I don't know what to say. This is what Jill Biden supports. God hates him. God doesn't, God throws the sinner into hell, not the sin.

Yeah, that's right. People say he loves the sinner, but hates the sin. No, he hates the sinner as well. This is common misnomers about, about stuff. In fact, Ephesians 2 15, it says this, by abolishing Christ, by abolishing in his flesh the enmity, which is the law of commandments contained in ordinances.

And so they might make it two, one new man. Enmity, the context here might be God and his people, but some say it might be the Jews and Gentiles. But the whole thing is that enmity is a strong hatred.

And this exists. And God is opposed to the proud. He resists the proud and the arrogant. His soul hates those who love violence. He hates all who do iniquity.

That's what it says. And it says, uh, Psalm 45, seven, you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore, God, your God has anointed you because he is, people have hated wickedness and God anoints them in a favorable way. We Christians aren't supposed to be going around just saying, well, it's just your thing.

And we'll just let it go. No, we're to resist evil. And we can pray that God deals with evil people appropriately. And as these wacko leftist morons are out there being violent and threatening and walk into cops and shoot them, they need to be dealt with according to the law swiftly. And they need to be said as examples. There's two cops I got shot this weekend.

Yes. There's two cops I got shot this weekend and God hates them. And I keep on telling people, they'll stop falling to God and be honest with God and follow the God of the Bible.

Follow the God of the Bible. And he's strong. It's American Jesus. He loves everybody. He's not going to punish them.

Right. The blonde haired, blue-eyed Caucasian surfer Jesus dressed in a woman's nightgown asking for permission to come into your heart. That's the false Christ taught in a lot of American churches and American culture.

No, Christ is the one who's coming back in judgment and he will destroy the wicked. And we want, we don't want that to happen to, I want people to go to heaven to preach that gospel. That's what we've got to do. All right, buddy, we got to move along.

We got calls. All right, man. God bless. All right. Let's get to Jennifer from Los Angeles.

Sorry. Waiting a long time there, Jennifer. You're on the air. Hello. How are you? I'm doing well.

What are you the guy? Um, I have like a few questions. I'm going to try to make it fast because I know time is short, but, um, as I'm going, I'm starting with the BLM, the Black Lives movement. Um, how do you feel about that? I mean, personally, I just feel like it shouldn't be a thing because we should already know that black lives matter yet certain people don't see that.

It sucks. Black lives matter. I read an article on it. Black lives matter is a Marxist anti-Christian organization and it's for the destruction of the nuclear family, the promotion of homosexuality, transgenderism, and things like that. And one of the founders, uh, believes what's called the Breathe Act and the Breathe Act, she promotes it.

The Breathe Act is basically a communist document. And BLM is, uh, basically an anti-Christ kind of a movement. Now, does that mean that we shouldn't say that black people matter? Of course they do. White people matter. All people matter. That's how it should be taught.

That's how it should be. Equality. Black lives matters by definition, racist.

Just think about it. Black lives matter. That's a racist thing. It should be all lives matter. We're all one race. That should be what's taught because there's only one race, the human race.

We're different sizes, shapes, colors, and genders, just two genders. And we should, um, promote the truth of God's word and not stand for this political correctness and the flapping in the wind, whatever direction happens to be right at, but whatever particular time some guy says. Okay. Right.

Right. I mean, people say, I mean, but of course all lives matter. That's what people use.

Like, um, no offense, but I'm not saying you're racist, but what racist use in order to, um, to say that they're right. You know what I mean? Like in order to like shut down that black lives matter, they'll say, no, no, no.

All lives matter. Like, you know that. However, we're just going through stuff. You know, the black African Americans are just going through racism, you know? Well, there's, there's a lot of racism and the black community was abused and had been abused up until a few decades, decades ago, you know, shamefully. And it was the democratic party that helped promote a lot of that stuff.

A lot of people just don't know. You got to do your research, but you know, this needs to be stopped, but you stop it not by, by burning and looting. You stop it by the preaching of the gospel and the changing of hearts. That's how it's supposed to be done, but they want oppression and it causes resentment.

It's causing more problems than it's solving. And we're out of time. We'll keep getting for a call back tomorrow. All right.

And everybody else, Eric and John and whoever else is calling right now to get in. I know you want to talk. We're out of time.

Call back tomorrow and call back an hour earlier. All right. And we'll talk then, but the Lord bless you. We'll talk to you later, everybody. God bless.