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Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and your list of Matt Slick Live. If you want to give me a call as usual, it is easy. All you got to do is dial 877207 2276. Today's date is June 12th, 2026, and I've been working on a lot of new stuff.

working on uh well i released a video today And uh It's where I'm You can go to I think yeah, you can go to um I just thought about something. I'm sorry. You can go to carm.org forward slash one O-N-E, and it'll take you to the one-minute videos listings. And you go to Mormonism at the top of the page that I did one on what does Mormonism teach? I've already done that before, but I just do a different one.

And you can check it out. There's one-minute videos. I think I've done like 26 now. And just trying to get up to 100, and it'll take me another six months. Just do them here, a little bit there, and they do take a lot of work.

But trying to get them so that they're produced properly. And then I'm going to be doing some other style of videos where I sit in front of a computer and whining, complaining about stuff.

So we'll see how that goes. And also, I'm working on an interesting project. This is on the Ten Plagues of Egypt. Um The article title is: What is the biblical significance of the ten plagues of Egypt? And um I'm not done with it, about 80% done with it right now.

But I found out some interesting stuff just by doing this research. And I've got a table on what those plagues are and how they affected the attack on the Egyptian gods. But also, another table at the bottom of the article dealing with the plagues of Egypt and the plagues of Revelation and showing parallels, which for me is kind of interesting and fun. And I'll probably finish that later tonight or tomorrow and release it. There you go.

You see? It's pretty easy stuff. All right, like I said, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. You can also send me an email. Email me at info at carm.org, info at carm.org, and put the subject line, radio comment, or radio question.

And Lord Welling, we can get to them. See, it's easy stuff. All right, let's get to. Kenny from North Carolina. Kenny, welcome.

You're on the air. Yes, this uh I talked to you the other day about You know, it's opponent on the man. wants to die then the judgment. And as I've been studying that, one thing, you know, several things came to mind, but 319, John 319. Is this pointing in that direction?

Or am I getting it out of line? I wanted to get you to look at it and see. Because, you know, a lot of people quote 316, but following it on through, he talks about coming into the light.

Well, it says there, you know, there is this judgment. This is the judgment that the light is coming to the world.

So it's just a generic statement. The lies come in the world, people are damned, and people are going to just say, which is rightfully so, because of rejection of God, rejection of Christ. Um So, I mean You know, there you go. Yeah, it's sort of like it you know, is it like an invitation to to come into the light, though? Because, you know, looking at John, yeah, 1 John 4, it talks about walking in the light, and we'll have fellowships.

and his blood cleanses us. Right. Because I know I need that cleansing. That's something I see for every day. I'm glad that God's gonna be.

That's right, I'm glad that God's eternal and infinite because that's what it takes to cover m my sins. Yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Yep. Yeah, I've I I talk to people about sometimes We get into Yeah, we all got the things that Satan tried to like open our wounds up. And I I try to talk to him, you know, if Isk.

If we truly belong to Christ. Do doesn't the old wounds belong to Christ? Doesn't always belong to Christ, I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. Yeah, doesn't our wounds, you know, the sins or the scars on our hearts or lives or. Doesn't that belong to Christ too?

Well, I know what you mean by belong to, but He takes care of all of what we are completely and totally, though it's not all manifested now because we're going through this life. We've got to live and serve Him. Right. And when we get to heaven and the redemption of our bodies occurs, all of that will be taken care of.

So, our sicknesses, our failures. I mean, I don't know. I'm in a. I got a lot of Bad stuff in my life, a lot of memories I wish. You know, it's like, oh my goodness.

So, uh, Maybe in the light of Christ there'll be They'll be even worse in my mind. But, you know, I put a joke in there, but when we get to him, I don't know how it's going to work, but he's going to just wipe away our tears. It's going to make it good. And it's going to be an interesting experience. Yeah, 'cause what I've been studying though, the wages I'm not seeing is death, and he took those wages.

From us because we we studied with those Bible studies about stewardship. And my conclusion was that I came out with was I own nothing really except my sins. That's the only thing I o actually got when. And uh how do I become a better steward? of what I'm doing and how.

Well, you just ask God to Okay. You've got to ask God to direct you, ask God to direct your steps and to be a better steward of what He's given, and ask Him constantly to use you. Yeah, first glory. Absolutely. That's the key.

It took I I didn't learn I wish I'd learned when I was younger. you know what I'm saying? Because he talks about taking our cross up daily and following him, that's that you know, getting things in the proper order. And I think it's well, it's still my battle. It's still my battle every morning to get focused.

Sometimes you get in a rush and I sit there. I got to wait a minute, wait a minute, I need to connect. I want to be connected. Because uh You know, the way I look at it, the way I think I'm looking at it right, if I sew to the spirit or flesh or. I believe in all my old understandings I'm I'm going to mess up.

You know I know my father trying to drill in my heart here that Don't lean on your own understanding, but all your ways acknowledge him. And he's going to direct you through your life. Who's going to help you through these things? That's true. That's true.

That's why we got to do this on a daily basis, just like you said. Yep. I agree. I'm trying to get out of my works because I know it's his work, but how do I become It I'll have it basically to talk some map. And you've heard of CPR, right?

CPR Right. Yeah, confess, pray, read. Oh, okay. Yeah.

So it'll keep you spiritually alive. All right? Confess, pray, read. Reconciliate. Yeah, that's how it'll do it.

All right, brother.

Okay. Thank you. You got time for another one? You got people waiting? One more, real fast.

What do you got?

Okay. Portum Australia outposts. Looking at First Corinthians, Thirteen. Everybody calls it the love chapter. Yes.

But to me, the f yeah, the first few verses to me are very challenging.

Okay. When I look at his definition of love in my sometimes my heart or my actions I see myself also short because I'm not patient or kind.

So, what's your question? You got a question about this or? Yeah, the question is in first three verses. He says, If I got this, you know, uh Would you want to radio me to to to uh Read through this, the first three verses. If I speak in tongues of men and angels, I'm familiar.

I'm not love, I'll become a noisy.

So what's your question about that? Is is this how God sees us when um He sees us to be patient or kind. He sees us for cracking. Yeah, we're seen by the Lord God through the blood and the work of Jesus Christ. That's how it's always been from eternity past.

And Ephesians 1:4 talks about this.

Okay? All right.

Okay, I guess I guess that's part of me coming out of a cult of works. Right. You know what I'm saying? I want to get. I you know, I want my goal is uh uh is to get that Well done, good and papal servant.

Rightly vital in the word. I really then CPR. Confess, pray, read. Yep, there you go. Confess, pray, read, and just keep talking walking towards Jesus.

That's all we can do. All right, brother.

Okay. Thank you again. And I did get to check out your website, and I like your path. Yeah, but what do you have your hat on? You got a carb hat.

It's only it's only in one clip that I see. Yeah.

I don't know what that is. I don't even know what that is. Yeah.

Yeah, a hat. Yeah.

I okay, I don't know what it is. I I if you would send me the picture, maybe I can find out what it is, because I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, I was on corn when I called it.

Okay, um like I said, Like I said, I don't know what it is, but I'm curious.

So if you could send me a picture of that or where you found it, I would like to know because there are people who work against me and they mock me, and I want to make sure you're in the right place and the right thing.

Okay? Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Well, I thought that was cute. I thought you just let your hair down a little bit. You know what I'm saying?

And just hey. You know.

Okay. Yeah, just show that to me. It was actually on your website. It was on your website.

Okay. Well, I was going through some of your short videos.

Okay, just send it to me. I didn't take it as marketing. I took it. I took it having a break. All right, just send it to me.

And that's what I like to do. I'm curious, okay, to know what it is, all right? Because I don't wear a hat normally.

Okay. Okay, just curious. If I can backtrack and see if I can find out where that was at.

Okay, thanks a lot.

Well, thank you again. All right.

Okay, take care.

Okay. All right, so I'm going to give a shout out. It's another birthday to Sayla. She was turning two today. Yeah.

Man, you know, when my girls were two years old, oh man. Oh, they were so cute. I just think little girls are so cute. They're just awesome. Two-year-olds are just wonderful.

So happy birthday, Sela. All right, let's get to Rich from Ohio. Rich, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, thanks for taking my call.

Very excited to be speaking with you, Fine. I get to listen to you all the time. Oh, well. Good.

So, I have a question pertaining to. I'm a I'm a school teacher for middle and high school boys. And in one of my classes today, of course, you know. boys teenage boys think about what they think about all the time. And it's usually subtle sexual, and I try to lead them.

It's a Christian school. Um And I'm of course, one of them asks, how do you deal with Lust. And the actions that people take with lust, don't you? specific. I'm not trying to get graphic at all, but.

Right, I understand what I'm saying. And. And and I'm just I'm trying to guide these young men um and ways of righteousness and uh I'm just how do I counsel Okay. Child like this. And I heard you to the last man say CPR, which was great advice.

But how do I counsel these young men In ways of righteousness, when sometimes, honestly, I have issues with the same thing. Yeah.

Well here's the thing. You know, the youth need honesty. which is a form of integrity. And you're gonna f be wise in how you you relate. But you can say generic things like, Trust me, I understand what you're what this is.

And you say, and the struggles uh that I have What I'll do is I I focus on God's Word. And so it's when you have a container. That's filled with dirt. In order to fill it with something else, you've got to remove that dirt. Or when you put something in, it forces the dirt out.

And if you force in the truth of God's Word, you know, Philippians 4, 6 through 8.

Well, eight, and it's really good. Oh, we got a break, so hold on. We got a break.

So we'll get back. We'll talk a little bit more about it, okay, Rich?

So hold on, brother.

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Rich, are you still there? Yes, sir. All right, so the break was kind of convenient because it allowed me to put together some scriptures and get a list of some things. Great. And um You know, 1 Corinthians 10:13 says, No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man.

So you're just relating to them. And anybody else, you know, this is Timita. This is something that's common to us as men, as males, as men. And Jesus was a man, and he experienced similar temptations because it says he was tempted in all things. That's Hebrews 4.

Fifteen and sixteen.

So even Jesus was tempted this way. But he did he never sinned. And what we have to consider as Christians is that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit if we truly live for the Lord God. Then we um You have to understand he indwells us. Jesus says the Father and He will come and make their abode in us, John 14:23.

So, our body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we need to consider that because what we participate in. The Spirit of God is aware of who's in us. And Yeah, that I have always found to be rather Sobering.

Okay, I don't want God to participate in my sin. In that sense.

Now, I remember this very clearly when I was in seminary and I graduated in 91.

Well M Div and um We had this class And there was a professor who was talking, and I forgot what class topic it was, but this was germane to the topic of the class. We've got talked about this very issue of lust as we're going to become pastors, and how do we deal with women who might come to us for advice? And there's a lot of good recommendations. You know, never be alone with a woman. You just common sense stuff.

And he made a comment once about women in general. And he said, He said, What he does when he sees a woman who's attractive. But he's married, right? He would pray. Lord, protect her from my lust and the lust of others.

He got into this habit of praying immediately. And I never forgot that. You know, it's one of it's all the things that I was in three years of graduate school. That's one of the main things, you know, and that just stuck with me. Because it was so true.

And I was so glad to hear that he... uh was struggling as I was, and I know the rest of us were. And so, another thing is to purpose in our hearts, and this is what I teach the young. Purpose in your heart to be a good man. who will grow into a maturity of Christ, so that God will trust you with a Christian wife.

Too many people, what they do is they say, Lord, the woman I want is, and she's got and give a list of things. Christian and Blonde or brunette or this or that or whatever. And they give this list, but they're they praying about what they need to be. To be entrusted with a woman by God's grace in marriage. And I find that that Truth, at least with me, and I've given it to others.

Has proven to be rather helpful in curtailing and guiding things.

Okay. And You can even get a t-shirt that says don't feed the filth. Don't feed the filth. Don't feed the filth, feed the soul, you know. And just quicken, you know, just quick things like that.

Don't feed the filth, feed the soul, you know? And you can put Bible verses and and stuff like that. But uh yeah, those are some of the that's some of the stuff, yeah.

Okay. I appreciate that. I really do. You know, quite the timely topic for today, I think. But here's something else.

I don't know i I presume you're already aware of this kind of a thing in the issue of developing a trust with the individuals that they can come to you and confess things and talk. where you don't judge them, where you don't you know, roll your eyes. You know, that trust, they need that godly Masculine adult. Trust ability with you. That's going to be hard.

And I'm sure you're probably trying that as well. But yeah, it's a tough request. I think it's starting to come. I've only been teaching them for just about a year now.

Okay. And I think it's starting to come, which is good, I think. And then also the issue of talking to the parents about very casually, these things kind of come up, and because your mom and dad they might say things to me they wouldn't say to you. Is it okay with you if I counsel, blah, blah, blah? And it's a consideration.

I don't know if that's a It's relevant there, but it's consideration. Uh No, that's that's excellent. Excellent advice. Yes, it's a boarding school, so the boys stay there. And they're away from their their parents for two weeks at a time.

They go home every other weekend.

So we're we're kind of surrogate parrots in a way for a while, a few weeks at a time. Gotcha. And so it's a unique situation, but it's an honor to serve there.

So, but I appreciate your Your counsel on it, thank you so much. Can I throw one more thing out at you? Just to do this, all right? I would love it. Oh, yeah, please.

I don't know if it's going to help or not, it's a good idea or not, but I did a stint while I was associate pastor, assistant pastor at a church that had a Christian school, and I was asked to go in and teach varying topics. And so I have a sense of humor. And one of the things that I did was on the first time I got in there, you know, where's Mrs.

So and so or Mr.

So and so? and I'd say, Well, you didn't hear? And they go, what do you mean? Didn't hear? And the entire class just stared at me.

They go, oh, yeah, the SWAT team? You know about the SWAT team? Oh man, there was this, and I make it up as I go. There was the mailman coming. He was delivering, I don't know how it got in there, but something to do with hot dogs.

And he was going up to the door, and a Doberman was out of the neighborhood. You just make it up as you go, you make it ridiculous. And after a while, they figure out you're being ridiculous. And what happened was, every class I would go to, all the students would say, what happened to so-and-so? Because they wanted a story.

They wanted the story. And I make these ridiculous. I had an attack chihuahua that was put in a mailbox, you know, and just stupid stuff. And the choppers make the sound effect. coming down over the house and they were you know groping down through the through the through the chimney and then she drove out the window thinking it was uh a burglar, you know, and then she's she had to go see her mom, you know, and whatever.

And they just love these ridiculous stories. And so it's a good way to connect. It sure is. That's awesome. Appreciate the tip.

And I'm good at stupid stories. I appreciate your time.

Okay, man. God bless. All right.

God bless you. Thanks.

Okay, that reminds me. I'm going to just say this. I used to do this thing called Bob and Bob when I would teach at Sunday school. and I started Bob and Bob, and Bob and Bob were two aunts. you know, bugs, little ants, and I and Bob and Bob and I would do these dialogues with Bob they're both named Bob.

They were best friends. You know, Bob got up in the morning and they said to Bob, What do you want to do today? And Bob says, I don't know, what do you want to do? And I would do this, and they got on the back of a butterfly, or they were almost eaten by a big caterpillar, or whatever it would be. And I would do these stories and just make it interesting and have it fun because if it was both named Bob, then they had to figure out by listening who was talking about what.

And the parents would come to me and say, What is this about Bob and Bob? The kids keep talking about it at home. You know, they love stories. A lot of fun. Hey, we'll be right back after these messages, please.

Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show. You can give me a call.

It's easy. Just dial 877-207-2276. Let's get to Anthony from Kansas. Anthony, you're on the air. Hello?

Hello? So, what do you got, buddy? Hello, how are you doing? I'm doing all right. I'm here.

Okay. Yeah, it's so. Yeah, you're approaching seventy, I just turned sixty seven.

Okay. Yeah.

Anyway, here's my question is Yeah, my question is, um What do you think of the what's known as the sinner's prayer? I've heard some people say If a person prays that, God doesn't hear it because nobody in the Bible was ever converted by praying a prayer. Um I I I seem to think that If you do pray that prayer and mean it, not There's no formula, there's nothing magic about the words. And cry out to God, He does hear that. What say you?

Okay. There is a sinner's prayer in the Bible. It's in Luke 18:9 through 14. The parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector. And Jesus gave this.

And he said, The tax collector said, Lord, be merciful to me, a sinner. That was a prayer. And he was saved by that prayer.

So the first thing that someone said, you repeated to me, was just simply false. I mean, they got it wrong. No, people are saved by the prayer, in Jesus' own words, in Luke 18, starting in verse 9 through verse 14. Sinners Prayer. The question is, is the sinner's prayer biblical?

Well, it's like saying is the doctrine of the Trinity. Biblical.

Well, yeah. But we don't see any single verse that says there's one God in three distinct, simultaneous, co-eternal persons.

So, the sinner's prayer, what it is, is a confession of sin before God and a confession of need of redemption before God and trust in Christ.

Now, it's not a formula that saves us. It's the heartfelt appeal that God works in and through us, and we say that. And so, in that sense, I have no problem with the sinner's prayer. On the other hand, we don't want to make the mistake of saying, well, I said those words, so therefore I'm saved. We don't want to do that.

The sinner's prayer is fine if and when someone's doing it. For real. They really believe it. My wife, my late wife, she went forward to receive Christ at Calvary Chapel. In Costa Mesa, California.

So she, the sinner's prayer idea, and she went forward and she was dedicated to the Lord Jesus.

So I know there's pluses and minuses about that. Again, just to reiterate, as long as you don't say, because I said the prayer, I'm okay. That's not it. But the prayer can certainly be a means by which someone confesses. Because you do that anyway when you pray to God and say, Lord, please forgive me.

That's a sinner's prayer.

Okay? Alright.

Okay. All right.

Thanks a lot. That help? Yeah, I sure did. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot, buddy.

God bless you. You too, man. God bless. Thanks.

Mm-hmm. All right.

Uh Let's see. Let's talk. Let's get the grant for North Carolina Grant. Welcome, brother. You're on the air.

Hello, thank you for having me. I uh Mm-hmm. I just had a one pretty general question for you. I mean, with all your time in ministry, What's what are like three Um some three like big things you've learned that you would You wish you would have known maybe thirty years ago, something you would have told yourself coming out of seminary. Oh, well, when I was younger, after I mean before seminary, after seminary, but after seminary, I would have bought stock in Microsoft.

Okay. There you go. Okay, he said right before, you know, that's what I said. But if you mean spiritual stuff, you know, it would have been to learn to treat your wife better, love your wife better, treat the children with more grace, be friendlier to people, you know, all kinds of things like that. Yeah.

Now if it was my seventeen or eighteen or nineteen year old self, I'd beat myself up. first and then talk.

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

That makes sense. Both lakes make sense, yeah. Oh yeah, you know, I mean, I I got saved pretty dramatically at seventeen, and then I had, to my utter shame, oh, a year and a half of uh let's just say sliding, one foot in heaven, one foot in the world. And I still remember those days and I still Regret them, and I'd like to now with the martial arts that I've taken all these years, go back and find myself and then just, you know, just headlock myself into a brick wall a few times and then you know, wake up and then talk, you know, things like that. Due to myself, you know, who am I hurting?

Right. Oh yeah, no, I've chair to stand. What's uh what's uh wh I guess um I guess what kind of like spiritual disciplines or practices have you done to You know, and lack of better words, like put yourself in that headlock how you ordered it, or really just kind of like start walking by the spirit again. Like, what are some things that's really helped you over the time to? to be aligned um with the Lord.

Well, this is going to sound really Odd. But one of the things I do is I review my sin. Uh I review it. And have conditioned my heart to regret it so much. And uh and in light of it, I wonder Why would God Use anybody.

Like that. I don't get it. And so it causes me to uh bend the knee and the heart to my Lord all the more. And, you know, even though I'm you know, I'm old, um And have done a lot and succeeded in a lot. That's not what I focus on.

I focus on those things that I'm ashamed of. And for some reason with me, That helps me confess to my Lord and then depend on him more. And then that causes me to rejoice in His grace and His mercy, and then that causes me to have confidence in how good He is. which gives me peace. It's kind of a weird thing, but that's how I operate.

All right.

That's a great answer. I appreciate you answering those things. I think it's Really encouraging. And Love hearing the wisdom that you share. And I Thank you so many people.

So, yeah, thank you for sharing all those things. I really appreciate it.

Well, no problem. I kind of got a suggestion. Maybe you could fly out here, and then we could go find a young Christian and beat him up right away and just say, This is from your future self. And we're just loving on you. Yeah.

You know, and a Christian fight club or something. A Christian fight club, Christian Spiritual Fight Club, and just meeting you up now.

So, you know, this is from your future self.

Okay. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, that's one way of going about it. Probably the best way. Golly.

Oh, man. The things that I've done, I cannot believe God has let me live. Period. What? What's um like as you think about your younger self, you you know, you stereotypically I mean, actually, maybe it's just a fact, like you have I'm a young man in ministry, and I still daily have to submit myself to the Lord, and Lord willing, continue will.

you know, not allowing necessarily like zeal to overcome wisdom.

So What does it look like for you, like in the past to now? Like, what are some things you're like, man, I really wish I didn't allow my passion to get ahead of my like being, you know, more slow to speak. or more cautious with decisions. Like I guess what What are kind of some of those regrettable things that you look back and like, man, I really wish I would have slowed down in ministry? If that makes sense.

Basically two things. Spend more time with the family.

Okay. And the other one is not use my strengths as a weapon against my own family. Because I'm intellectually capable, and I didn't know I was doing this. Where I would just, you know, use my mind with them, or I needed to have a little more heart with them. And those are the some of the things I look back on and go, you know, I blew it here, I blew it there.

And uh I didn't know I was autistic also until about 15 years ago. And if I'd have known that early on, that would have helped because it explains a lot of behaviors and stuff like that that I wasn't aware of. This is just kind of a self-analysis I've done over the years. And you know, we all have our regrets. But here's something, we fall on our strengths as well as our weaknesses.

And that's the thing I would I'd say to people, what are your strengths? Is it intellect? Is it mind? Is it stubbornness? Is it dedication?

How could the devil use that? against you and and the ones you uh you love. That's the thing. And that's what I learned. And I wish I could go back and do a lot of things over with the wisdom I have now, which is all the more reason I want to beat myself up when I meet myself, you know, You never put yourself back in the headlock?

Oh. I know some martial arts arts locks that are really good. One's a particularly nice, one's a a wrist lock. Or you get the guy down on the ground, you have his arm locked up and you put your foot on his hip and he can't move. And you could just lecture him for a while.

And it's really nice. And if he doesn't say yes, you just just this tweak his wish to live until he yelps in pain. And it's a great conditioning thing. You could stay there all day. Hardly any effort.

Okay. Yeah, it's my first time for sure ever hearing the martial arts example with Confronteg Sin. Very funny. I like it. It's great.

I mean, it's, you know, it's direct. It's, you know, confrontational to a healthy degree. Go and get your job done. That's right. There you go, brother.

All right, man.

Okay. Well, thank you for answering my questions. I hope to encourage you to just ask you some more personal questions for you.

So, thanks for everything you do.

Alright, may God bless.

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So there you go. Let's get to Mr. Mims from North Carolina. Welcome, you're on the air. Hey Matt, glad to be back on with you.

Hey, two quick questions for today. One question is What is the difference between celestial and terrestrial? Entities Well Well, terrestrial or biological, celestial or non-biological.

Okay. If you said biological what do you mean? What Is w celestial, is there a spiritual or design? Of humans Terrestrial is on the earth, there's biological structures: fish, birds, people. Cattle.

Things like that, and angels and God don't have those biological forms, so that celestial sense.

Okay. Right. Celestial will be upon the spiritual. Upon a supernatural mankind, wasn't it?

Okay, so what's your question pertaining to? What's up?

Okay, one other question I had.

Now, About the UFOs or the aliens, do you think the UFOs and the aliens are taking over the government system in our state? Do you think, um, uh, that they have a um Well, I mean, what is the um that we so our country sold out to the to the aliens? Stay. No, um no, I I don't think that's the case.

Okay. Okay. You don't think that what has happened We've been sold out whether people realize it or not. The aliens, matter of fact, they are part of the military. They're the one who gave the technology to.

upon the military, and that's what we sold out at.

Okay. Well, you said in control, that's different than what you said there, different topic. I don't know if any aliens are are in control, though I do wonder when I look at the Democratic Party in America, because they certainly don't seem to have their feet planted on this planet, but some other world. But you never know. You know, the majority up there is reptilians, fallen angels that has come to the earth.

is misleading mankind.

So they're doing it. Are there you're saying the ma the majority of the political leaders are are reptilian aliens, which are basically the Anunnaki? All right.

But right. They they're here. People don't realize it. But there have been state trends on Yes, sir. That these uh news can all be in his politics, religion, and all this stuff is these aliens.

Okay. So who Uh no, but um So the aliens, or you say the aliens are in charge of religions. Which ones are. Give me three that they're in charge of. Christianity or Jehovah's Witness.

on all the moments That's for the mark line that that's the mark of the beast. is the ones that are following these false religions. If you don't have the market tall the mark of Tauf, which is uh the mark of the Tauf You're up on the mark of the bees. The mark of Ta? What's the what's that?

T-A-V, Taub. It's not Af and Oligit. It's Allah and Taub in Hebrew. Yeah, Taub last letter. Um.

Okay. Um so Christianity is run by The Anunnaki, the alien reptilians? Is that what you're saying? Yes, sir, all upon the Satan. That's all capitalist.

Yeah.

Huh, well, Catholics aren't Christians because Catholicism is not a true Christian religion, it's a false religion. But um Interesting, okay. Did you see Perry Stone when he's coming out to all the religious leaders? They're getting with a rubber bit. And and the aliens are given to come forth and say that they are this all is a lie.

It's Christianity and all this stuff was falsely Made up? Uh no, I uh I haven't heard that. Maybe you could send me some information at Carm, and I'd always be interested to look into that kind of stuff. You go for the parents told the religious leaders, they give them to come forth with it. And the amygdala giving a come out for Paula White is part of it, too.

She knows about it.

Okay. So is Trump a an Anunnaki? Yes, sir, he father. He's a not an o he's a reptilian alien. Yes, sir, all of a part of this father is saying no.

Okay. How about uh All politicians are Anunnaki? Good.

All of my pundits that get together, sir, ran by Okay, they're coming forth.

Well, people are going to be seeing that. I just be aware it's coming.

Now I've got to ask a question because. Musk, Elon Musk, became today became the first world's first trillionaire, okay, with the SpaceX stock. He's an Anunnaki also. Yes, sir. All part of it, part of it too.

How about Jeff Bezos, the head of Amazon? All of them, yes sir. These top of you, yes, sir.

Okay. And now I'm curious, what's the artificial intelligence? What's the purpose of that? Oh, the Phil Def the Mark is coming. They're taking over mankind's minds that Mark is coming.

AI that Mark this um Elon Musk is coming with. People better wake up. I'm serious, nigga. This is very something very cheap to think about. If people are not aware and discern it, they're going to be caught up.

I'm serious, man. This is very true time. We're living in now. The market of bees is coming.

So who how about the the ladies on the view? Are they Anunaki? That one I might agree with you they were. What do you think? Yes, sir.

All of them. He was telling the tree by the fruit it bears. All these lies will be skipped to all that's coming to an end. Yeah.

Yes, I would agree. And the Lord Jesus is coming back. But hey, I really enjoyed that. We're going to get on to the next callers, okay? Appreciate that.

All right.

Thank you, Mike. All right.

All right.

Thank you for your time.

Okay. Bumble bomb. 'Kay. Yeah.

It's uh it's good stuff. Um Okay.

Okay, back to Earth Jordan? From New Mexico. Welcome. You're on the air, brother. Hey, how are you, Matt?

Doing okay, hanging in there. Um Painted? Yeah.

So what do you got, buddy?

Well, I just have two I just have two quick questions. I saw your recent discussion with Moses, the oneness Pentecostal guy? And I want a dirt. See if like I was seeing this correctly. Can you ask them about it Yeah.

No, this was on your discussion with the Gospel Truth? Oh, I didn't remember that, but okay, anyway, sorry.

Well, you asked him a question on. his answer to the problem with the one in the many. Yeah.

And she said He his answer was that it was He was a radical monist and when he said, Oh, Um differences and all many these things that are many are just They're just the way they're called. They're illusions. is when he mentions the scholar Norris. He said they're all illusions. But then he goes on to affirm the hypostatic union.

Would you consider the contradiction. You'd have to get in, and I think you're on the right track. If he's going to affirm the hypostatic union and yet everything is an illusion, then you can't say the hypostatic union is true because it's an illusion. There'd be an inconsistency there.

So that's when I would say, I see a problem. Can you explain this? And that's what I do with people.

So Well Yeah, I don't remember my conversation with him. I've had so many over the years, but um I recently had a conversation with a guy in a on TikTok and it was a go a good conversation on oneness, and then a guy jumped in, was rude and I just left 'cause he he wouldn't stop um Uh just just being rude.

So that that would happen about a week ago.

So anyway, I'm just curious. Yeah, I think you're on the right track. There's an inconsistency there.

Okay. Okay, yeah, 'cause I I thought and I figured I'd I'd ask you 'cause I've seen a lot of your Trinitarian stuff, and that's also why I wanted to call in and ask you about like. the monarchical view of the transitarium and versus the classical. And if you have any sources I could possibly read up on that and what your worldview is about all that.

Well, if the uh if you were to write me and say, uh What's the view on, or the words of these, or what view, whatever it is? But then I can check it out. Because you know, my view of the Trinity is established and well known classically, is what I agree with. But monarchical Trinitarianism deals with the idea of the Father being the supreme or the source, the main principle, source out of the fountain of the Trinity. And yet, at the same time, they're eternal.

There's logical difficulties with that, but I understand the issues and why it was of generation.

So, these are the areas where we get into some very difficult. Discussions. And we don't want to get into, you know, we don't want to have monarchial mode modal monarchianism. Which that can kind of lead to that. We want to have orthodox theology that the historic view, which is the three eternal, simultaneous, co-eternal persons.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, and you you said uh write write it to you or Because if you want, like the comparisons of monarchial Trinitarianism, modal monarchianism, things like that.

Social Trinitarianism. There are different views of the Trinity that have been posited, and depending on how they're defined, they fall within orthodoxy or not. Because we can say in one sense the Father is the source of things, because everything proceeds from the Father. It seems to be the case, but what does it mean? And that's the issue.

And we have the eternal procession of the sun. And how does it work? To be honest, I don't know. And then there's another issue I'm aware of, and the logical necessity of God being triune. And it's not that God is subject to logic, but that logically The Trinity makes most sense because if God was one person, then what was He doing for eternity?

He wasn't having any fellowship, wasn't having any love. Love is by nature other-centered, and so we have a problem there. If God is dual, father and son, then the love problem is solved, but the immateriality of the abstract entity called love is exchanged, which is a fundamental property of God, which would then mean that an impersonal aspect of God is a fundamental property of God, which is contradictory.

So the Trinity solves the problem where the issue of love exchange is mediated by the person of one of the other persons to the other two. And then the problem is solved. And this is the minimally efficient nature. I think that this reflects the nature of the Trinity, one in the many, and other things. It gets really complicated.

So I'm just saying it's just good you know, it's there's a lot to talk about here. A lot. Yeah yeah. Yeah, and that's that's ultimately what I'm really wanting to Find out and understand because one thing that I'm understanding about the classical view. Is Hey, you know what, brother?

Sorry, we're out of time. We're out of time. The music's going to start in like five seconds, five or ten seconds. I want to say this. Go on my website.

Sorry for interrupting, but I had to. Go on harm and look up the Trinity Examined in Depth. And check it out, okay? On my website, Carm, the Trinity Examine in Depth. And then call me back on Monday.

Let me know what you think, okay, brother?

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