Matt Slick Live

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Alright, so um I had a conversation yesterday, or two days ago, with a friend of mine. about uh sin. And he just had an idea, and we just had his curve. Conversation. He wanted to run it by me.

And so we're talking about it. He goes, you know what? That's a good idea. I said, I'm going to see, part of the conversation, I'm going to see if I can categorize sin. into categories.

Now, this is something I like to do every now and then to see if I can figure something out.

So I wrote this article, I released it today. Um What are the different types of sin in the Bible?

Now I could get into subdivisions and things like that. But one of the things I noticed was that there were the sins of commission and omission. Things you're supp you don't people Specifically, they break a law, that's they commit a sin. But then there's also the category of omission: the things that they should do, they don't. And I've already talked to people about this.

You know, sin is breaking the law of God. That's a commission, you're committing a sin. I like the commission and omission. uh were sounds So I thought I wondered if I would be able to continue that. And I did, I got four categories.

So What I did was uh I I re I arranged them logically. disposition, presumption, commission and omission.

Now, I'm not saying this is the perfect way to do things, but I like the Alliteration is a word that begins with the same letter and stuff like that. I don't know what you call it. When the words end with the same spelling. What do you call that? That's a whole other thing.

I'll type it in. Let's see. What? Do you call it when a series of words ends with the same Here hold on. Same pronunciation.

Pronunciation. I'm curious about stuff like that. Like, what I'll do sometimes watching a show, they'll use a word I don't know. I stop the show and I go look it up. I like words.

It's oh my goodness, here it is. A, oh my, how am I going to pronounce this? Oh my god. Hoy. Yeah.

Homoy hotel leoton Whew. Oh moi, home. From the Greek moi O t well I can see that same ending from Homo uh you know we have Yeah, homo just means same. And tell us end.

So homo homo Homoi Homo oi, homo oi teleuton, homoi teleuton. Man. Let's see, how do I pronounce that? I never even, I don't know, I never heard that word before.

Okay. I like alliteration better.

So it's a It's a home oil. Homoi o Tell you, Ton, I'll tell you Oh.

Well, why didn't you say so? I'm like oh Oh man, it's hard. Homo oi tellutan. I'm a tell you time. Oh my.

Yeah, I'm about to use that in a party. Hey. You want to learn a new word? People look at me. No, we don't.

We're tired of your new words, man. In fact, I have friends, you know, and I'll do that with them. I will just purposely show off and use big words when we're talking. And they know, because they know I do that to them anyway. And, you know, they threaten me.

They go, luck. We can take you out back, we can work you over until you start talking normal English. What are you gonna do? What's gonna be? You go, okay, I'll dumb it down for you guys.

And that's what, you know, just a mutual insult of the friends and things like that.

So, anyway, I have disposition, presumption, commission, and omission. And disposition is the sin. Uh that begins uh in the fallen heart. Our disposition is fallen, and just our being that way is sinful. than presumption.

Acting apart from faith in God and His Word, we would presume that we could do something apart from what He says. And then there's the sins of commission, doing what God forbids, and omission, not doing what God requires.

So I got those in the Homo homoi Homoy o tell you tonight. Homoyo teleview time. Oh my oh, one, two, three, four, five, six syllables!

Okay. Words that end the same. Words that end the same. See, saying it that way is. is um is f one less syllable than a word.

Yeah, I entertain myself a lot.

Okay, let's get to Mark from Utah. Hey, Mark, brother, welcome. You're on the air. How are you doing, brothers, Matt? I appreciate your ministry.

I'm sorry for the loss of your wife, but we know she's in a better place. We see my question is. I'm kind of with you on the post-tribulation. But when the evil is taken out, right, and when the Christians are left, where is the point? That the evil people in during the tribulation come back in.

Is that from the falling away from? The church, the people that are supposed to be Christians.

Okay, so I'm a little confused.

So you're talking about the pre-tribulation rapture view, right?

Okay. Yeah, I kind of want to I would like that to happen, but I'm kind of being with you on a poster that we're going to go through. Yeah, I'm posting. Red up and studying.

So if all the the pe the evil people are raptured out, then the Christians are left, right? Oh, I see what you're saying. You mean when the wicked are taken first of the return of Christ? Out of Matthew 13, Matthew 24, Luke 17. That's correct, yes.

First gather the weeds.

So at what point does the evil people on earth start coming back in?

So there's evil people during the tribulation.

Okay, okay.

So they're not taking pre-tribulation. The wicked are not taking pre-tribulation. The wicked are taking after the tribulation. We all go through it. And this is my position: that the wicked and the good go through the tribulation period.

Jesus Christ comes back, and the wicked are the ones who are taken first to a place of destruction. And then the good are taken to be with him. And then I believe that the new heavens and new earth are made right after that. It's my view. It's not a common view.

Okay. Well that that makes sense. picturing if the evil is taken out, then only Christians would be left. I'm just wondering where the evil people during the tribulation would come back in, but you're saying the evil and the Christian go all the way through the tribulation at the end. That you should have taken first and then, yes, and the reason I say that, for those who may have heard this and go, What the heck is he saying?

If you go to Matthew 24. You can read about the return of Christ and things like that. But he says in verse 29, Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light. The sign of the sun of man will appear in the sky, and he'll send forth his angels with a great trumpet and gather together his elect.

So it's that the gathering is after the tribulation because Jesus says so. I mean, it's Matthew 24, 29 through 31.

So that to me, unless they say there's two gatherings, but there's it's not. There's just one gathering. No. There's just one return. Like you say, one age and then the age to come.

It's only two ages, too. That's right. And then for those who are curious about this Okay, I'll just hey what, hang up and then I'll just kind of explain the view a little bit.

Well, you know, I appreciate it. That makes it clear to me 'cause I was picturing that they're taken out and there's Christian to be left and 'cause we know there's going to be a great falling away from Christian church, but But we're both going to go through it right at the end.

Okay, that makes sense. I love you, Matt, and thank you for the service that you do for everybody.

Okay, brother. God bless.

Okay, I've Oh oh, I'm sorry. Um I hung up on when he was talking there and that wasn't intentional there.

So, for those of you who may have heard this and are saying, no, this guy named Slick on the radio has got it wrong, well, just hold on. In Matthew 24, and Luke 17, when it says, Two men are in the field, one is taken, one is left. Undoubtedly the context is saying that it's the wicked who are taken, it's not the good. I know that you've probably heard. No, it's the rapture.

No, it is not. Absolutely, it is not. When I show people this, and I've been doing it for decades, 100% of the time, they say, you know, you're right. 100% when I show them what the scriptures actually say, when I show the context, because the flood came and destroyed them all. And that's Luke 17: the ones who were eating and drinking and giving in marriage.

And in Luke 24, they were eating, drinking, giving a marriage. That's the wicked. Until the flood came and took them all away. That's the wicked who were taken by the flood. Two men will be in the field.

One is taken, one is left. That's the wicked who are taken. That's the context.

Okay. So Matthew 13 is when Jesus says the wheat and the tares. And they're just going, hey, what's going on here? You know, our disciples are asking. And he gives this parable starting in verse 24 of chapter 13.

Matthew 13:24. And he goes on: the wheat and the tares and the whole bit. But he said in verse 30: allow both to grow together until the harvest, in the time of the harvest, I will say to the reapers, fire. First gather up the terrors. And buy them in bundles to bring them up, but gather the wheat into my barn.

The f he says. He says. The fir first gather the tares. And then Ten verses later. He interprets it.

He says So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send forth his angels, and he'll gather out of his kingdom all stumbling blocks and those who commit lawlessness.

So you see, now some people come back and they say, well, that means it's out of the thousand-year reign. Except that doesn't work, and I can show you guys why if you're curious. Um I have uh some we got a break coming up here in a minute, so if you want me to continue Then call up and say, explain that some more. Or, uh, before I call off another question. But maybe after the break I can get into it and talk about it a little bit more.

But um No, I believe. That we're going through the tribulation, and at the return of Christ, the first one's taken out of the wicked. They're taken to a place of judgment. And um Do have this new worship going to be made. We'll be right back after these messages, please.

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Six, let's get to Gary from Virginia. Gary, welcome. You're on the air. Hey man, how are you doing today? Melancholy, little fatigued, uh, slightly brain fogged, but other than that, not very obstreperous.

Very good. At least you got the Lord's blessings upon you. There you go. There you go. My question is about once saved, always saved.

And I want to refer back to Luke eight.

Alright. And we're looking at verse 5. Jesus is talking a parabelle about the seas.

Some seeds fell along the side of the road and it was trampled.

Some fell on rocky ground. others withered because they had no moisture. And then we go down to 11 and he explains the meaning of the parabelle. And he says, Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes along and takes away the word. Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it.

Because they have no root. They believe for a while. but in time of testing, they fall away.

Now that is where my question of once saved, always saved. If that seed fell on the road, it received the word of God. It accepted the Word of God. It accepted well. later on that Jesus is our Savior.

So how is that seed that fell on the road that sprang up with joy, but then it withered away. Where does that fall into the once saved, always saved? Mm-hmm.

Well, I don't see what you're saying.

So let's go over it a little bit, okay? This is uh Luke 11. Five.

Okay. So went out and seed gave seed. Other uh seed fell in the rocky soil, grew up withered.

Well, actually, I skipped a little bit there, sorry. The road fell beside the road and it was trampled underfoot. The birds ate it up.

Some on rocky soil, it had no moisture, so it died away. Other said among the thorns was choked out, and good seed fell, grew up, and produced a crop 100 times. All right.

So now we've known down to 13.

Okay, and those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy and have no firm root. They believe for a while, and time of temptation falls away. There's different levels of belief. There's different levels of acknowledgement. You can have someone who makes a profession of faith, but is not secure in their heart.

So It's just that. You can have someone who says they believe in Jesus. But They really don't. I've known people who've made commitments to Christ and then they they leave. And this parable in here never says that the ones who left were regenerate or saved.

And this is a parable, okay? We have other issues I can get into.

So That the answer to this is found in the idea that there are different levels of faith, different kinds of faith that are given.

So Get my notes. Oh, come on, you slime pole. Move this over here. I talked about computers.

So I was a computer tech for five years at a large corporation and I learned everything. The new AI started talking back to you. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

So uh Hmm. Uh So, the good soil minute-marked perseverance, what distinguished it from two and three?

So, I have some interesting notes. The soil number one represents a heart so hardened the word never penetrates it. The devil removes it immediately.

Soil 2 represents a warning against decision-ism, emotional response without genuine root. Uh my notes on Seville uh Soul III. It represents a functional secularist in the pew, never formally leaves, never truly is faithful. or unfruitful. You're going to have people who attend church, they're not real believers, they're professing Christ.

And uh when things get really tough, they're the ones who you bail. But the good soil marked by a hupremonnet, which is perseverance under a load. that distinguishes it from Soils Two and Three, the good heart uh Callos Cagathas, is prepared soil implying prior divine work.

So these are my notes. I'm just going through. I haven't even looked at them for a long time.

So that's what I would say about that. in there. Yeah, like I say, when I read 13, it says those on rocky ground are the ones who receive the word.

So that tells me they receive it with joy when they hear it. But they have no root. They believe for a while. So at a point they believe But yes, they don't have a firm foundations or the good soil to grow and prosper in. And that's where I'm kind of like, well, where do we get into the once saved, always saved?

Because you get a guy that goes to church, and he's, you know, at the end of the, you know, the pastor gives the invocation: hey, if you like to receive Christ, you know, say this prayer with me, and, you know, I want to rejoice with you, this, that, and the other.

So if that person accepts Christ at that time, Are they then saved? If they really do. If they really do. We don't know what they do. In fact, I just remembered a verse.

Let's see if I can find it. 2 Corinthians... Uh we can go through this. This is quite a big topic. It's a good topic too.

Not yet. Let's try this one. Um Oh, repentance. There's a verse. There's a verse that talks about different types of repentance in 2 Corinthians 7:10.

Here we go. For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death. This verse has always been in the back of my head. There's different types of turning, different types of repentance, which would equate to the issue of different kinds of believing. Yeah.

Because Judas, for example, he believed in Jesus, but he was never saved to begin with. And he even tasted the heavenly gift. He participated in so much, but he was never saved.

So we could say that that is one of the soil three. that he received the word of Christ with joy, and he so to speak believed. but he wasn't a true believer. And what's interesting Check this. This is something that's not.

That I did some research on a while back. And I got the idea of what does Jesus equate eternal life? And we can get into some other issues here about parables and get quite a bit more deeply. But he says in John 3.16 You know, God for the world, he says, he says, uh. Believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

So Jesus equates. not perishing with eternal life. In John 5, 24, he says he has eternal life and does not come into judgment. In John 10, 27-28, I give them eternal life. They will never perish.

So we see that there are these places where I'm looking through some more. Uh Yeah, here we go. He says, um It says this: He who believes in me will live, even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.

So Jesus repeatedly is equating eternal life with never perishing. That doesn't prove anything because we could say, well, that means they have eternal life while they're believing. When they stop believing, they don't have eternal life anymore. People could say that. But there are logical problems to that.

And if you want, we can go through some of the issues here. And we can get into this more deeply and show you why eternal security, once saved, always saved, is true. And why you can't lose your salvation. And I can show you that. Sure, I'd love to.

I don't know if you have enough time. I know you've got other callers that want to get through and talk to you as well. No, actually, you're the only call we have right now. I would love that conversation. I would love that conversation.

All right, we'll hold on after, and I'll show you why it's impossible for us to lose our salvation. It's very simple.

Okay? All right.

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If you want to give me a call, you can. It's easy: 8772072276. Gary, are you still there? Yes, sir. All right.

Okay, so I've had this this discussion, I don't know, 387 or 388 times. Lots okay over the years, and um, there's, in my opinion, a very easy way to prove that you can't lose your salvation, but before we get to that. Let's talk about parables a little bit. Parables are illustrations that reinforce doctrine. They don't establish it.

They don't make doctrinal positions per se. But what they do is They illustrate something that's already there. And What Luke 8 is doing is illustrating different responses to the gospel. Right. Mm-hmm.

When we look at varying verses, like 1 John 2:19, it says, They went out from us because they never were of us. If they had been of us, they would have remained.

So the Bible clearly tells us the context about Antichrists and that have gone out into the world and they were not of us. If they had been of us, they would have remained.

Well, people say, well, that means you could lose your salvation because they went out from you. But wait a minute, no, think about it. The Antichrist? They're that by nature. They don't become Antichrist after you're a believer.

Okay, so there's these points and these sub-points and things like that.

Alright, now logistically. Sin is breaking the law of God. 1 John 3.4. Sin is lawlessness.

So, when the Bible says don't lie, don't steal, etc., and we do those, we've broken the law. And thereby When we break the law, that's a legal penalty. That's what law does, gives a legal penalty.

Now, Isaiah 59:2, sin causes separation between us and God. And Romans 3, or 6:23. sin, uh the wages of sin is death, so it brings death also. But what we're going to talk about here is the legal aspect of sin because it says in 1 Peter 2:24 that Jesus bore our sin in his body on the cross.

Now, let's talk about that a little bit. What does that mean? He bore our sin in His body. What it means is He bore our sin in his body. But where meads?

Well How do we understand that? Sin is a legal debt.

So let's say that I have a T V on layaway. at a store. And I owe another $100 on it. I'm just paying it off over a month period. And you, you're a nice guy, and you know that I have this layaway to get this TV.

And you go into the store and you say, hey, I'm going to pay this guy's layaway off, and you pay it off.

Okay. It was my debt. But you could pay it. And now it's cancelled. Right, so okay, so the legality of debt is transferable.

This is why we use the word in theology to impute. to reckon to another's account.

So I could write you a check for twenty five bucks. You impute it. By depositing, it gets imputed to your account. It's reckoned and counted in your account.

So, this is legal phraseology along with the phrase propitiation.

So in 1 John 2.2, 1 John 4:10, I think it's Romans 3:25, or where these word holosmos in the Greek. Um propitiation occurs. Propitiation is a very interesting word. It means the sacrifice that removes wrath. It does not mean It's the sacrifice that removes wrath if you do something.

It means it's a sacrifice that removes wrath. when the sacrifice is offered. I know it's first John. What was it? 1 John 2.2.

1 John 2:2.

Okay. Okay. He's a propitiation not only for our sins, but the sins of the whole world. And there's also 1 John, I believe it's 4:10. Let me check.

It's been a while since I've quoted these. Um And that's 1 John 4.10 is also, and let's see, Romans 3.25. Yeah, he's a propitiation in his blood through faith.

Okay, so these are the, I think those are the only verses where they occur.

Now I'm actually curious to see if that is the case. 2435 is the Greek word 2435, and it occurs. And those, yeah, that's right, those dissoci places.

Okay. Yeah. So a propitiation removes the wrath. It doesn't make it possible. It's done by the doing.

When you go in in my illustration to pay that rest of that debt off of my layaway, By the fact of your paying it, it's done by you doing it. It doesn't depend on me later to accept it, to make it valid. It's like saying, it only becomes real if I accept it. That's ridiculous. That's not how legal stuff works.

But this is what's fallaciously taught in churches all across America today. the sacrifice of Christ it all depends on what I do.

Okay, and that's not true. But anyway, so Jesus bore our sin in his body on the cross, 1 Peter 2:24. He also said on the cross in John 19:30, Titalestai in Greek, which is in the English, it is finished. The word telesty has been found occasionally written, handwritten, in a different writing style. Different authors, different people write, different handwriting styles, you know.

uh of of contracts and debts that have been paid. And they write to Telesty. Not every time, but It's done enough to, hey, it has legal quality to it. Jesus said on the cross to tell us, Die, it is finished. He's talking about The issue of the legality.

He was made under the law, Galatians 4:4. He had to fulfill the law, which is why he got baptized, which is a whole nother topic, Matthew 3:15.

So he went to the cross, And he fulfilled the requirements, etc. And he bore our sin in his body on the cross. that he died with those sins, wages in his death. till death was paid.

Now when we go to Colossians Uh 214. I'm going to tie all this together in a little bit, okay? having cancelled out the certificate of debt.

Okay, this is what it says.

Now let me read verse 13 and 14 of Colossians 2. when you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him. Having forgiven us all our transgressions, having cancelled the certificate of debt. Consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us, he's taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

So what was Canceled at the cross. The certificate of debt. That word is the Greek word kerographon, it means a handwritten IOU of legal indebtedness. It's a legal list.

So the law. When we break it, it condemns us. We have this debt. But our sin, that's a sin debt. The sin was transferred to Jesus.

In fact, Jesus equates sin with debt. Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Matthew 6:12, he says, Forgive us our debts. in the parallel of Luke eleven four, forgive us our sins. Jesus himself equates him with legal debt.

Paul says he cancelled the certificate of debt.

Now, that means he cancelled it at the cross. It's not cancelled when you believe. It's not can't when you get baptized. is candle of the cross. This is really profound theology, but it's right there in Scripture.

And it has serious ramifications. in different directions. For one, We have to ask if the sin dead is candled at the cross then who's it cancelled for? for the believers. Not everybody.

Because it's not dependent on what they do, it's dependent on what Jesus did.

Now think about this. In Ephesians 1.4 He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we be holy and blameless. In love, He predestined us to adoption.

So God chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world. That we be holy and blameless. He chose us. 2 Thessalonians 2.13 says, You have been chosen from the beginning for salvation. Mm-hmm.

Acts 13:48, it says, as many as had been appointed to eternal life. Believed. When you believe, because God grants you have faith, Philippians 1:29. That's when you're justified. Romans three twenty eight, Romans four five, Romans five one, Galatians two sixteen.

to uh england all these verses.

So Think of it this way. God elected. in Jesus before the foundation of the world Jesus came to redeem the ones given to him by the Father, And he says those whom he gives eternal life to will never perish because he canceled their sin debt at the cross. They can't be lost. It's impossible.

Their sin that cancelling is not dependent on their goodness. but on the finished work of Christ. Then when we believe, because He grants we have faith, Philippians one twenty nine, That's when we're justified. Romans 3:28, we maintain that man is justified by faith, apart from the works of the law. Romans 5:1, having therefore been justified by faith.

So he canceled the syndic for the elect at the cross. And then The people who are believers are believers because God grants that they believe. Philippians 1.29 have been pointed to eternal life, which is why they believed. Acts 13.48.

So therefore they can't be lost, because it would mean that Jesus failed to do the will of the Father. in John six thirty seven Better hurry up because the brake's coming up. There's the break. Let me get back from the break. I'll go to John 6, 37, 40, run through that a little bit.

And that'll be that for that.

Okay, so hold on, okay, brother. Hey folks, we're right back after these messages. Hope you're enjoying this. This is deep theology, but it's right out of scripture. We'll be right back.

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Yes, sir. Absolutely. All right.

Now, now I'm going to go to, in light of what we just said, I'm going to go to what Jesus says in John 6:37 through 40. I'll go through this slowly. This is good stuff. I love this stuff. Jesus says, All that the Father gives me will come to me.

Now he does not say all who come to me, the Father will then give them to me. Because this is the theology of the world, a lot of Christian churches. If you come to Christ, Then God will give you to Jesus for safekeeping. That's reversed. Jesus says, All that the Father gives me will come to me.

What I'm doing is trying to shift people's minds and hearts away from their own sovereignty to the sovereignty of the Almighty Infinite Being who's called God. That's what I'm trying to do.

So all that the Father gives me will come to me and the one who comes to me I will certainly not cast out. People say, well, you can cast yourself out.

Okay. He says in verse 38: I have come down from heaven not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me. This, verse 39, this is the will of him who sent me. that all that He has given me I lose nothing. but raise it up on the last day.

So you see the will of the Father. Is Jesus not lose any? That's what it says. This is the will of him who sent me that all he's given me, I lose nothing but raise it up on the last day. People say to me, Well, you can lose yourself.

And I say, well, that's in the book of 2 Colostomy.

Okay. That's what that's what that is. It's uh next to First Moronicals. And so, you know, it's just it they do whatever they can. It's ridiculous.

He says, the will of the Father is that Jesus lose none.

So this is between the father and the son.

Now between you and God. But between the father and the son. Notice what he says: All that the Father gives me will come to me, I will not cast him out. I have come down from heaven not to do my will, but the will of the Father who sent me. This is the will of him who sent me, that I lose none.

This is a conversation, so to speak, between the Father and the Son. And it says, The will is of the Father that Jesus raise him up, the one that he gives to the Son. that he not lose any and raise them up. That means the resurrection to eternal life, okay? Right.

Then verse 40: This is the will of my Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in him will have eternal life, and I myself will raise him up from the last day. But wait a minute here. I want to show you something.

So just think of a sandwich, bun, meat, bun, okay, A, B, C. and would go to verse thirty nine and verse forty, ABC. What's the meat in here? This is In 39, it says, This is the will of him who sent me, that's A. that all he's given me a lose nothing.

That's B. and raise it up on the last day. Let's see. So that's Bun meet bun.

Okay, okay.

I hope that works. Then verse 40, this is the will of my Father. That's the same thing as verse 39. This is the will of him who sent me, and verse 40, this is the will of my father.

Okay, now we go to the center part. the meat of it. That all that He's given me I lose nothing. That's verse 39 and verse 40. That everyone who beholds the Son and believes in him will have eternal life.

Jesus is equating eternal life with not being lost. Because he does this in John 3:16. You know, God loved the world, gave His only begotten Son. Whoever believed would have eternal life and never perish. He says it in John 10, 27, 28: My sheep hear my voice, I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish.

This is how John shows Jesus speaking about this. This is what Jesus says. He's doing the same thing here.

So in verse 39. A. This the will of him who sent me? in thirty n forty a, mister Will is my father.

So he's repeating himself. the center thing, the meat. That all he has given me, I lose nothing. And in verse 40, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in him will have eternal life.

Okay. And then The follow-up raise it up on the last day in verse thirty nine, and verse forty, Raise him up on the last day.

So, what we have here, almost identical as sentences, they're not, but almost. Because the A and C are identical. The will of him who sent me, raised him up on the last day. But what's in the middle of both of those verses is interesting. that I will lose none.

and whoever believes will have eternal life. God, when who grants that we believe, Philippians 1.29, to you it has been granted to believe. Jesus says in John 6, 29, This is the work of God that you believe on him whom he has sent.

So if you believe, it's because it's real faith that God has granted to you. Because he's given you to the Son. In Jesus. can't lose you, otherwise he's failed to do the will of the Father.

Okay, I understand that. That means he then would not raise him up on the last day for that resurrection, the glory and life. That's what he's talking about.

So you raise both on the last day. Right. All right, so going back to the original question in Luke, what was it, 8:13, where it says. I think that's what I'm sorry. Yeah, whatever.

That's right. So he says: those who receive the word with joy and they accept it, but then they fall away. They receive it. Outwardly, they believe it, but inwardly they don't commit to it. You can have different levels of belief.

You and I walking through a park talking about this, we're drinking a cup of coffee. And lo and behold, there's a preacher. Let's just say it's uh what's his name down there? Oh man, I preached with him too. Oh man, I always have a recomfort, okay?

In Virginia?

Well, I've actually been at the beach with him and he wanted to go, Mad Your Turn. And, you know, so. Anyway, so in s in southern California.

So Let's say he raised preaching, right? And He gives four messages and four calls to come up, and four groups of people come up, and we interview each of them later, and we discover they fit into these categories. We can't know the hearts of individuals. We can only see the outward profession, the outward action. We see one group quickly fade away.

We get to this one here, and they seem to believe they make a profession. But What happens is They have no root. It's not down deep. It's not real. Because true faith comes from way down in when God.

Grants it to us that we actually do the believing. If God grants it to us, and it's in Jesus, John 6:29, then it's true faith. It can't be fake. It can't be partial. Because God grants it to us.

He also grants that we come to Christ.

So, Jesus, I mean, Jesus said in John 6:65, you cannot come to me unless it's granted to you from the Father.

So if you come to Christ, It's granted, you're coming to Jesus. And Jesus says, the work of the Father is that you believe in him whom he has sent. That's the work of the Father, you believe in Jesus. The Father is the one who opens your heart. It's his work that you believe in Jesus.

He's the one who grants you come to Christ. And then it says that the Bible says that God, you know, you have been granted to believe. The implication is God who does this.

So, if God's doing this to you, it's real. And Jesus says, the ones given to him by the Father, his will, the will of the Father, is that Jesus not lose any. It's not loose. It can't be lost.

So, when we see this parable, which is an illustration of theology. We see four different belief types. Only one of them is real. Only one of them produces honest, good heart, and holds fast, bears the fruit of perseverance. That's the one that is granted by God.

The seed and the good soil, these are the ones who've heard the word of God in honest and good heart. That's because God has worked it. But here's a problem. We don't have an honest and good heart. Your heart in my heart is right.

Yeah. It's desperately wicked and deceitful. No man can trust it. Jeremiah 17:9. Out of the heart proceeds upon the earth.

of all kinds of problems. And so we have all kinds of issues, okay? And um So when he says here, good and honest heart, he's being illustrative of something. He's not being doctrinally precise because We know. that we're slaves of sin, and the unbelievers are.

So he's not speaking pure doctrine here. But illustration. The ones who really believe they have a good heart. Who has a good heart? Nobody.

So why is she saying this? because he's simply trying to get the basic idea around. There's different kinds of belief. And the one that has the true and good heart, that's the one obviously who's been redeemed and dwelt, transformed, changed. That's what he's talking about there.

Okay. Oh, thank you. All right, brother, you can't lose your salvation. otherwise God made a mistake giving you to Jesus. And I ask people who teach they can lose your salvation, I say, Great.

What do you gotta do to keep it?

Well, you gotta be good, you gotta do alms, you gotta not lie, you gotta do this. How's that working out for you? Yeah. No man. That's right.

It's only the arrogant who think, and the prideful who think, that they can keep themselves right with God. And there's a lot of people who believe in works. You got that right of the face. and a lot of them are in Christian Protestant churches. Yes, sir.

Yep. And The Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox Church both violate the true gospel by adding works to salvation. They absolutely do. That's a whole nother discussion. I was raised Roman Catholic.

And uh Yeah, that was uh Catholicism is a dangerous Yep. It is. It's a tool of the devil. And so, but in Protestantism, there's a lot of teaching. It's up to you to activate.

The work of Christ on the cross by your believing, then you apply it to yourself when you do this. That's not found in Scripture. Just not found in there.

Okay. Or it's in the book of Second Hysterectomy. You know, I love these things. Or it's another one I came up with: First Ex Laxicus. That's a good one.

That's a good one. So all of good for you. Jumping back a couple of months, you had a discussion with an individual who claimed. Angels were female and male. Um And I wanted to point out that there's only three angels that are definitely mentioned in the Bible: one is Satan, one is Michael, one is Gabriel.

They all have male names. Right. So I'm not saying there can't be female angels, but There's none that are. They don't have gender, they're presented as male because of authority and things like that. But no, there's no female, and it's uh Okay.

All right.

Alright. I appreciate your time. All right, man. I hope that helps.

Okay, thank you. God bless.

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