Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right, everybody, welcome to the show. As usual, if you want to give me a call, it's easy. 87720722. 7-6. Today's date is June 4th, 2026.

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Now, summer, summer months, in the spring, summer months, they tend to slow down here on the radio. People are out doing and running errands and just having a good time.

So they don't call quite as much, which is fine. But if you want to call, all you got to do, like I said, is dial 877-20-72276. And let's get to Germaine. From California, Jermaine, welcome. You're on the air, buddy.

Hey Matt, um Just wanted to give you a call from lovely Japan. And being into society, I wanted to ask you a question.

So I noticed a lot of A lot of the crime here is extremely low compared to what we're used to in the States. The problem with that is, and I heard this from a Japanese woman who attends our churches. It's a very moralistic society things still go on like anywhere else, but for the most part, Most of the people are law-abiding citizens and consider themselves very Moral, and they're a very mind-drown business stoic culture. How do you preach the gospel? to people who wouldn't think they need Jesus at all because their society is is a quote unquote Yeah.

Well, I'd I'd just tell them society isn't what gets you to heaven. Um And just ask them. Are you really thinking you're that good? No tone. You don't need God's work and God's help.

And just the the basics, you know, and and just say pride is something that, um that hides you from God.

So you gotta check to see if you're prideful. Yeah, just things like that. Just uh just hitting those areas where, um, They need to be Um be reminded that they're not that good. And I don't know if you know the history of Japan, but in the 1600s they killed a quarter of the population or something like that because they were Christians. And there's a forest that people go out there to uh to ki to kill themselves.

And there's actually a word in in Japanese, I don't know it, uh for it. there is a great deal of of pressure, a great deal of of um tension. to perform. And so they comply. and to become a Christian Is in a sense to identify with the ancient stuff that was wiped out, but also to not fit into the mold of society.

And so they will follow suit. And you know, in Japan you could leave your laptop there and come back hours later and it's still there. Uh they're a very moral society. and they're very regimented. But The strengths that they have are also their weaknesses because they find security.

in what it is that their societies produced. But I would just tell them, you know, if you ever had the opportunity, I'd just say, Look. God's infinitely better than than you and anybody. And if you you do what's against him, There's going to be a consequence to it. Just like you break the law here, there's a consequence.

You break the law with God, there's a consequence. and if you've done things that are wrong. And you you list various things, because everybody's done something wrong. then you're guilty before God, and there's only one way out, and that's Jesus. Who died, rose from the dead after three days.

I always emphasize, after three days, he rose from the dead. And it said and if that's true that he did. Then what does that mean about what he said? Because he said Without him, you're lost. When you die, you're lost.

That's just basically how I would preach it, the same way I would. to anybody else. Just maybe little emphasis on Societal norms and stuff need to be addressed there, but undernet that's about it. You know?

Okay, yeah, and I and I do uh know a little bit about the culture back back in the day, like everyone was was into the martial arts grades and Right. for wrestling way back in two thousand, two thousand one, but then september eleventh happened and my fear of flying kicked in. And uh I know, I believe what you're talking about is a sepiku, or I think some of them call it Hari Kari, like a ritual suicide. And Yeah, I know there was a lot of that and I don't see too many of the organized crime figures walking around so I I know they're there though. You treat it like a business, but I know under underneath that moral appearance, there is a lot of sin.

It's just hard to convince a lot of people when they're living in a good society that they still need Jesus. And Um I got to actually walk past a temple yesterday Word And the reason I mentioned this is 'cause it it kind of looks like a scam where some people are into Buddhist prayers, but I noticed Around the corner you can buy trinkets that can get you what you want in the in the spirit world.

So if you want you know, freedom from debt. cost you five thousand yen. You go pray to the statue and then you throw the money and I Yeah, I'll I took pictures I I'll send you to get out of debt you spend money? Yes, to get out of debt, to have protection against demons, to have good luck. They had every category covered.

It was pretty much what the old Catholic Church did for You can um Yeah, you can buy yourself some kind of spiritual favor. and then uh go worship in front of these false gods and and then put the money in after you're done praying.

So it was really a very intricate system that spiritually scams people in my opinion, but Yeah, there there there's a lot of mood for Christ here. Yeah, there is. I was uh invited to go to Japan to preach, um, and it didn't it it fell through. But there are, I think, two percent of the population there is Christian. And it's it's a difficult thing that they do.

I'd love to go over there and preach and help equip, uh, you know. If I could, but You know, it's it's Anyway, you're right. They do the the trinket thing like the Catholic scapulars. That small piece of cloth worn around it, but he'll protect you and do things like this. And it's just ridiculous.

They do rosaries, holy waters, old crucifix, medallions, relics. you know, is a superstition. which is replete in Catholicism and in other other cultures, uh the Japanese is no exception to that, you know.

Okay. it's ridiculous. People are stupid s superstitious. You s you know, you you knock over a thing of salt and you gotta throw some over your fold your shoulder. That's you know, that's they still do that.

But in my day that's that was known. You do that, you know, and And uh don't step on a crack or or uh when a black cat goes across the road, you know, it it's a bad omen. It just dumb stuff that people have fallen for. It's because they're weak spiritually, they don't understand. uh the truth of who Christ is.

Yeah. But yeah, I get it. I get it for what you're saying. You know, it's it's sad. But the I looked up a little bit of the word there.

Uh uh kodawari is an obsessive fixation on being trapped by a thought or feeling. It's uh and that's the term that that comes up in my research here. But uh I think it's called Jukai, which is the name of the forest. uh outside of Mount Fuji. And their people go go there and they commit suicide.

And it's a humongous problem. And there's signs at the entrance of the forest. If you're having problems, call this number and you can talk to people. And then there's another word that the Gaijing feel when they go there. A lot of them feel an oppression.

I don't know if you felt that or not. Um Have you have you felt that at all? Actually, I was j just thinking that, but I didn't want to. Go too much over time, but uh there is a kind of a sense of depression That's on the face of a lot of people, like their society is geared towards Work and only work. And I worked for Sony of America way back in the day out of high school.

they literally had someone come over from Japan to tell us Hey, our workers sleep under their desk. And they're so dedicated that they don't leave in as younger at the time, youthful Americans, we laughed at them quite thoroughly and we said, hey, we'll do our work and we'll go home and we'll come back and we want to be paid. But There is a lot of what looks like depressed people walking around in they all not all of them, they're there's a small subset of people who I can see there's some spiritual freedom there. And I did see some young men Who were Japanese with Christian affirming shirts in a very small minority and most of the people seem to be in this mode where they're they're almost like spiritual robots. where they're going to work.

They have the same uniforms on. And there's there's joy missing. And it seems to be at a certain class and age level where some people are just stuck On the kind of the proverbial hamster wheel. And there is, it's like nothing, it's blank. Just no smiles, no joy.

And you can tell because some you look at Some will smile at you and some have zero emotion. They remind me of, I know you're a Star Trek fan, they remind me of data from. Star Trek just kind of like an Android. Yeah. Geo.

Well, you know, my middle daughter speaks Japanese. And she lived has lived over there and she was telling me what it was like. And uh it sh it's hard to make friends. But once you once you make friends, uh they're they're good friends, but it's really hard to break through. And the fact that she was beautiful, 'cause she's a beautif very beautiful uh woman, that really helped.

And she spoke Japanese, that just opened doors. But she would tell me what it was like over there. In fact, she went once and suffered, there's a word for it. I'm trying to find the word: Kaigo almoi. I think is what it is in Japanese, a heavy spiritual oppression.

And she felt it. The last time she went, and she was there for a couple, three weeks, and it was overwhelming. And you know, my wife and I talked to her about it. We s over the phone. Yeah, you know, there's there's a term for that.

And we didn't and I think she she even told us in Japanese what it is. But yeah, it's a reality. And my wife had to go and spend time with her and then they came home together because she was really affected by it.

So there's a spiritual oppression over there. And Man, I've seen videos of the Japanese guy what they'll do. They get up at o dark thirty, they go to work, you can't leave till your boss is gone. And then you go home, you've got two hours to yourself, and you have to do the cycle over, and it's just horrible. I need to work five, six, seven days a week sometimes.

And it's just ridiculous. It's oppression. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And there are some of their apartments living on efficiency a lot of their places are crammed together, so they're kind of like mouse holes or boxes and You know, uh what's considered big over here for us Americans is atrocious, um, you know, and God help you if you're over like five, ten or something, 'cause Right. Most of what's the accommodations are are for people who are much smaller, but I can see how it's very oppressive. It feels like a prison and I've seen some women say they hate Japanese women say they hate Japan and want to leave. Yeah, and apparently the Japanese men don't treat them well. And we had a Japanese foreign exchange student whose English was fantastic.

She was telling us, this was 10 years ago, and she said the Japanese men are wimps. They have no backbone and they're unappealing and she was Japanese. Yeah. Yeah, anyway. we can talk about.

All right, brother. Amen. Gotta go. All right, God bless.

Okay, say an auto. God bless you.

Okay. All right.

Okay. Man, I want to go to Japan. I'd love to go preach over there. Hey, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned.

It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, easy. All you got to do is dial 8772-07-2276.

And Tuesday next week, I'm planning on opening up Carm Talks. And that will be at 6 p.m. my time, which will be 8 p.m. Eastern time. I'm going to open it up on Rumble.

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Eastern Time starting. Just gave you guys a heads up. And let's get to Scott from Utah. Scott, welcome. You're on the air.

Thank you, Matt. Appreciate you taking my call. I just had a question. I have heard this verse, 1 Corinthians 15, 31. I'm a big believer in reading the Bible in context.

And I've just heard this verse taken out of context so much and used. Where Paul says, depending on what version you use, but in the King James, it says something like, I die daily. And so many pastors take that out of context and use it in the, like, for spiritual renewal or. dying to your sinful nature. And they never give the context that that wasn't what Paul was talking about at all in that verse.

I was just wondering what your opinion on that was. I think you have a good insight there because what he did earlier on is he listed out the problems and the sufferings that he's had. And so as he talks there, he says, Why are we also in danger every hour? Verse thirty. I affirm boasting which I live in Christ, I die daily.

Now there can be a spiritual sense of that death, but it's also in the threat of physical death. And I think that when he says I die daily, I think he's referring to the issue of dying to himself daily, facing physical death, that he kills in himself that which is affirming of his own life. I think the spiritual aspect that a lot of pastors use, I die daily, just dying to oneself, dying to sin, and things like that. I don't think it really applies there.

So I don't know why somebody would say that. But I'm with you. In fact, sometimes when I'm debating people in prompted debates, I tell on to them, I'm going to teach you a really bad word. It's a four-letter word. It's a bad, bad word.

I'm sorry. I know I'm not supposed to do that, but here's a four-letter word. Ready? context.

Okay. And that's what I say to them. Because it is a four-letter word to a lot of people. You don't want to read the context and believe what God's word says.

So I'm with you, buddy. 'Cause another another verse I hear Especially nowadays, all the time in religious contexts, is Second Chronicles 7:14. Uh-huh. And people are like talking like it's applying to America. Where in context, that was specifically talking to the people after Solomon's temple were built, the Israelites.

Do you do you think that's proper to use that? Like if If my people Are called by my name like like in in a in a sense today. That's a good question. That's a proper way to pull that verse out and I think there's okay, first of all, the first thing we do when we interpret Scripture is look at the context. And that means linguistic context.

What are the verses before? What are the verses after? We want to also look at historical context, particularly in the Old Testament, when it's dealing with Israel. And so he is speaking specifically to the covenant people, my people, the covenant people who are called by my name, humble themselves. He's addressing the people of God, the Jews, at that time.

The question then comes: Does the general application apply to us today.

Well, we know that there is a truth to us about humbling ourselves and God healing us. But I don't know of anything in the New Testament. That says if we were to do that today, that the land of America will be healed. It seems to be a generic truth statement. And not teaching that those who enslave the sin could become the Christ of their own, whatever.

And so I would say that I think the principle is here, and I think we could apply it to ourselves cautiously if we understand that the people of God covenantally were who it was specifically for, but we are also the covenant people of God in the new covenant. And so I think that We could say if Christians were to humble themselves before God and ask God to deliver this nation, he'll hear the prayers. There's no guarantee, but I think there's truth in it.

Now, I don't know exactly this kind of a statement in the New Testament, though.

So that's why I'm cautious to apply it.

Okay. Right. And yeah, I I I agree with you. I'm I'm I think if if pastors were to add the context of it and then say like, hey, if we follow this godly principle or something, but to make people think that That specific verse applies to all us Christians today in like say America. I think is kind of misusing that verse.

Yes, and it's like uh Jeremiah 29, 11. I know the plans that I have. Exactly. That's another good one. Plans that I have.

That's another good one that's. Yeah, and it says, There are plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and hope. And people rip it out of context. And sometimes, when I'm talking to people and they take a verse out of context, I say, Did you hear that? That ripping sound of like a verse being ripped out of context.

Man, I heard that. Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah. I hear that sometimes too in my own head. I'm like, that ain't exactly what that's talking about.

That's right. Yep.

Okay, yeah, I'm with you. All right, brother. I appreciate you. Have a good evening. Thank you.

All right, man. God bless. Uh All right. Hey, folks, you want to give me a call? You can.

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So we have nobody waiting. And I released what I've been doing. Let me tell you what I've been doing. And this takes a lot of work. Oh man.

I've been doing one-minute videos. where I'm not on the camera and my voice is not on on there, but I'm it's at a service and I can I manipulate this and do that to put words in and try and get videos that are fifty nine seconds and under so that can go into the one minute shorts for people to watch. And it takes a lot of work, which, you know, and that's just what it is, it takes a lot of work. And then I have to upload the video, and then I have to record with locations on the menus and stuff like that in Karm.

So. Today, I did one. Can Eastern Orthodox Believers? have assurance. Have assurance of salvation?

And the answer, of course, is no. And I want to talk about this a little bit because it applies not only. To um To them, but it applies today to a lot of Christians who think. that They have to be good in order to be saved.

So, the reason that the Eastern Orthodox can't have any assurance of salvation is for the simple reason that salvation is dependent in part. On what they do.

Now, I'm just going to read a couple of quotes and see if these things apply to you, if you think they apply to yourselves as well. You may never be Orthodox, but look. Oops, there was a break, so I gotta go. But it's really important, it's really interesting to see that this is prevalent among cults and It's even in the Christian circles. We'll get to this.

again after the breaks. I mean the Lord bless you right back, please. Stay tuned. Yeah. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276.

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Let's get to James from Virginia. James, welcome. You're on the air. Hello, how are you doing today? Oh, doing okay after mowing the lawn, not getting enough sleep, working a whole bunch, writing articles, taking care of the cat, you know, just you know, and then doing radio.

And then I got to work out from that. I always say, I'm doing better than I deserve. Better than I deserve.

Sometimes, sometimes people will ask me, and I'll say, well, I'm a little melancholy, but a little obstreperousness kind of woven in there with some recalcitrance. Yeah, yeah. The world's crazy now. It's hard to. It's easy and hard to be joyful at the same time.

But I had a question. I explained to the person when I first called, but I'm driving down the road, so I don't have my Bible with me. I'm not even sure of the book, but The story of Simon the Sorcerer, uh It's about 10 verses, if I'm recalling right. He actually spent a lifetime of being a sorcerer where he would. magic and and people would pay him for it.

And he did convert. He did say, I believe in Jesus. If I'm not mistaken. He got baptized, but uh He w he it turned out that he he offered money to be able to Get the gift of either healing people or laying or putting the Holy Spirit on them by laying hands and. Peter gave him a very strong rebuke.

I mean, it was almost like. You know, you you're going to get You're de you know, this is this is horrible. Like, don't even think that you can buy Spiritual gifts with money, but the very last thing and the very last mention of Simon the sorcerer in the Bible, he did ask Peter to please pray for him. Uh These bad things that Peter said was going or likely to happen to him if he didn't change. Did uh you know, please pray for me that this does not happen.

And so it's easy to say I would say if you talk to most Theologists, or whatever, or, you know, like deacons at my church or whatever, they would say, well, no, that guy, Peter, you know, he. He got damned to hell because he tried to buy God's gift of But at the same time, you know, I try to put myself in other people's shoes or their situations. He spent a lifetime of being. a paid sorcerer and, um, you know, He asked that question, and he got a very strong, and to me, an appropriate rebuke from Peter. But at the same time, the very last mention of him in the Bible is he's asking Peter to pray for him that.

These things don't happen to him.

So I'm just curious, you know, sorcery.

Something about this. Let's jump in on that. The Bible doesn't tell us if he was or was not saved at the end.

So there's debate about it, and I lean towards the issue of him being saved even afterwards. And the reason is because I lean towards it, I wouldn't die in that hill, because it does seem to say that he did believe, and the same phraseology is used of others in the scriptures where they believed. And so before I jump in a little bit more, I take a hop skip to the left and look at 1 Corinthians 5. Because in 1 Corinthians 5, there was an instance of a man having relations with his father's new wife. And Paul says, I decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of our Lord Jesus.

because of that verse, Uh it's I get the impression That a person can be saved even in their sin, but the judgment of God will be upon them, and God will take them out. Because as it says, in 1 Corinthians 5.5. Deliver him over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh.

so his spirit may be saved the day of the Lord Jesus.

So that's right there.

Now, I'm not saying it's okay to sin, and people will often want to misrepresent what I say, and it happens a lot. They just take what I say out of context. And so. That's what I would say about that. In the case of Simon, he did seem to profess in Christ.

And it seemed as though he fell into an ignorant sin as well, not understanding things, and he was rebuked for it. But nothing in there says he was damned. Nothing in there says he went to hell, nothing like that. It was his mate, you know, just perish along with you. And so that's that.

But we could argue on the other hand that maybe he wasn't saved in the first place, because anybody who's truly Saved isn't going to talk like that, isn't going to do that kind of thing. Or is he? Because when you go to 1 Corinthians 5:5, we have the guy who's having immorality, and yet he's going to be saved.

So, this is why it's just not an easy question to answer. It's a good question, but it's not an easy question to answer.

Okay. I always think of the verses that, and it's like me, like I'd read that verse probably 10 times and always thought, just assume Simon the sorcerer, you know, probably didn't make it, but. Uh, or is that going to make it, but then I started understanding more about the difference between the milk that a Christian gets, a new Christian, versus the meat later on. It seemed like the perfect example for me, but I keep studying my Bible. You know, the more I got into the meat of it, like, I definitely can't say.

He didn't make it, or he didn't, you know, that God didn't forgive him or was merciful for what the mistake, the one mistake that he made that Peter said was a very bad one, but he did ask for Peter to please, please pray for me. You know, it's the very last sentence ever mentioned about him.

Some people think sorcery is like the worst sin.

Some people think doing things with children is the worst sin. I guess. You know, and uh and because of that, anybody even related or ever mentioned about sorcery or magic or whatever. I didn't realize, me myself, that just being a manipulative person, even though I said I was. A Christian, I was baptized at a very young age, I would definitely use manipulation to either get a raise at work or You know, try to get outcomes that I thought would be beneficial to me.

And I've learned more that that is a form of sorcery that I just wasn't aware of. Yeah, it can be depending how it's done. But yes. And we have to be careful as Christians that we do things with integrity before our Lord and before people.

So yeah, there's there's some issues there. But um yeah.

So It's a tough one, and we can't say for sure he wasn't saved. We can't say for sure he was. We can just say, well, there's arguments, and that's why I lean towards that he was saved, even though he blew it. Just as the immoral man in 1 Corinthians 5. He did really bad stuff, and yet it Paul says.

Like I said, to destroy his body, so his soul will be saved.

So the implication is that even in that great sin, he was saved.

So that's the implication. There's nothing wrong, and that might be some of the some of the I don't know if you call it sadness or whatever that I do experience as a Christian. You know, I certainly pray that Simon, the sorcerer. was able to make it to heaven. You know, that I hope that all people are saved and make it to heaven, but I know they're not.

You know, I know it's a narrow gate, and there's fewer than probably a lot of people think, but. At the same time, it's just I wanted to ask you about it because I haven't had a chance to I guess it's something for a round table or a discussion. But at the end of the day, we don't judge. We're not going to know ever you know, we're not going to know for sure, I guess, until until we actually get to heaven. That's right.

Won't go.

Soon we'll find out. That's right. Is Simon here or is he not? Oh, no, he didn't make it. Or he's here.

He's right next door. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Okay. Well, I appreciate your your your response. Uh it uh it makes me feel a little bit better because I've had a lot of people tell me, No, no, no, no, no, no, Simon didn't absolutely didn't make it. Didn't didn't didn't you read those verses? You know, and I didn't feel the same way about it.

Right. They can't say he didn't make it, but they can't say authoritatively he did.

So. Yeah, and I'll probably write an article on it, put it on my list of things to do, and I'm only at 1,078 articles I need to write.

So, okay, right. Yeah, okay. Thank you very much, and God bless you. And thank you so much for preaching the word. Hey, by God's grace.

All right.

I brought a goblet. You too. All right, now let's get over to James from South Carolina. James, welcome. You are on the air.

But after Good afternoon, Matt. Good to talk to you again. Hey, Matt. I have an easy question for you today. Sure.

Easy question. Who are the or who yes, who are the Yosemes? Oh, the Essenes were a group of desert nomads kind of groups who were religiously inclined. And they're the ones that some people think were the ones who wrote the Dead Sea Scroll Scrolls.

Okay. They wrote the book of Isaiah? No, the Dead Sea Scrolls copied the book of Isaiah and they copied other books. They were the Jewish sect that lived from about 200 BC on. And so they're the ones who, some think, were the Dead Sea Scrolls and put them in the caves.

And by the way, I've been in one of those caves, the first cave. I've actually been in the the one where they first found the Dead Sea Scroll tablets.

So or scroll. Yeah, it is.

So that's what's going on and uh That's who they were, okay?

So, whatever, what's your opinion of them? What happened to them? What do you think? I mean, I have my idea, but.

Well, let's get to that for the break, okay? All right, brother, hold on.

Okay, sure.

Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. If you want, give me a call, 877-20722-76. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Alright, and welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all I gotta do is dial 877-20722. Seven, six. And let's get back on with James.

From South Carolina. James, you're back on, buddy. Yes, sir. How are you? Tired, melancholy, obstreperous, you know.

So what do you got? Truly understand. That's right. Yeah, I was just wondering about the F scenes. I thought that they actually.

Personally, I thought they they became believers, we became Christians. They were wiped out in the last part of the first century by the Romans who came in and destroyed the area.

So we don't know if they became Christians or not. J I don't know. I can't tell you.

Okay, okay, all right.

Well, I have a d I have a another question, but it's just a weird thing. I was reading. Um in the apocrypha Bell and the Dragon? Yeah. Doing some radar.

My question is this. They have Daniel in the lion's den for five days. And in the Protestant Bible, they have them in the lion's den for one day.

Now it doesn't really matter on one hand.

Okay. My question is really at the end. When it says that When they threw all the people who had given them bad advice. Yeah. You know, all the Soothsayers and See you're all that and their families.

You said that. All of them were devoured by the lions before the. Um before a bone hit the ground.

Okay. There's supposedly close to two to three hundred people that were thrown into that hole. There had to be a lot of lions in there.

Okay. Does it be some question about it? I don't want to say that.

Okay. Yeah, I mean How does the Catholic people come up with five days? Out of that book, the Belmontragon is not scripture, and so the Catholic Church in 1546. In 1546, added those books.

So I don't know where, I don't study the apocryphal books, so I can't tell you what happened or didn't happen or why or what. But um Not scripture. Right. Well, it just made me think that in the Protestant scriptures. It says the same thing about all these people being thrown in there.

If he was in there just one day, I mean, that's a lot of, they didn't have to be a lot of lions in there to eat. two to three hundred people before they hit the bones hit the ground. Or is that just a Belle and the Dragon, I wouldn't trust it. It's just I just no, no, no, I'm talking about the book of Daniel. Yeah, I'm not familiar with how many people were in there, so I can't comment on that.

Oh. Oh. Okay. Well, that was good enough for me today.

Okay, well God bless, man. Appreciate it. All right, bless you too, brother.

Okay. Bye. All right.

Now let's get to Jordan from North Carolina. Jordan, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt. I've been listening to you for probably like six months now on 1057 Truth Network.

Okay, good. I love love love your show. Anyway, that's good. Yeah Anyways, um I'm a Christian. I'm not here to, like, that I'm not here to say, like, you know, j God, why why did you like What's up with this?

This is like messed up. You need to change this. I'm not here to say that. I'm just. I'm just here to say like Why would you pick these things?

So, what I'm talking about is. Um the symbolic The the symbolic um Types of food that Jesus stand for his uh body and blood is Wine and bread. And The thing is is B brand it. contains gluten and that's basically I mean, you could say that's basically poison. And I mean, it's a protein.

It's basically poison. It it it it inflames the the gut. It it inflames 100% of the population. We got a question, or I'm kind of curious. Um Gluten isn't the poison.

It's just something that's been concentrated lately. My wife had gluten intolerance, so I learned a lot about it. But. What's your question? Right.

So let me get to it really fast. I'm sorry, let me be quick. And alcohol is inflammatory. And i alcohol is that's that's a crazy substance. I'm just wondering why It would be why he would say, you know, gluten and alcohol, you know, is my body bliss.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. He didn't say gluten and alcohol, okay. In fact, the Bible says in Proverbs 31, 6, Give strong drink to the one who's perishing, and wine to the one who's in distress. And Jesus broke bread. And so it's okay to have both.

All right.

And it and it's and it's one hundred percent and it's one hundred percent fine. I'm just wondering like the the Bible is just so What's your question? The emotions make Okay. Make people smarter and crisper and clear. And then he's like, but my.

Hold on. Do you have a question about this? You have a question? It's related to the question. I don't have a question.

You're right. I was just wondering. Yeah, my question is: what do you think about that? That's all. That was my question.

About what?

Well, think about what? Don't you think it would be cooler if it was like, I know this is, you know what, why he didn't say that. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got to focus. You got to focus.

Okay, because it's kind of all over the map, but I'm not sure what you're getting at.

So, if you had to ask a question in a sentence, what would that question be? What do you think about that? Like, what w d don't you think it would be cooler? And no, not cooler, but what do you think it would be better if I wouldn't say kale and water, but what what What do you want something clear for the body? Like my body.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You have to. Can you formulate a question? I don't think I think I'm too nervous and not as smart as you. No, no, it's okay.

It's all right. Because what you're doing is you start your question and then you start interjecting stuff. And so sometimes people get nervous on the radio, and I totally get that.

So, you know, are you saying why would Jesus use bread and wine? Is that it? Like, what do you what do you think about that? Because bread and wine were the elements that God used. Wine was something that you could have and consume, and it didn't become impure as water would by just sitting around.

Bread is something that you eat and it sustains you. And then in manna in the Old Testament, the bread out of heaven. And Jesus relates his body or himself, not his body, but himself to that bread. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that it's his bread that is the body that you have to eat, or the body that is his bread. And that's not what the Bible says, because he says he is the bread that came down out of heaven.

And they say, well, that bread is his body.

Well, his body didn't come down out of heaven.

So they're misunderstanding it.

So he's using bread and wine as a set of symbols. To represent the death and of crucifixion and atonement of Christ. That's all that's going on.

Okay? Right, right. And also think about this. Think about this. When Joseph was in prison, remember Joseph and Potiphar's wife?

He was in prison for two years until Egypt had a big problem and he was raised up.

Now, two people were in prison with him. a baker and a wine maker. a baker and a winemaker, bread and wine. which one of those two was killed? Which one of those two was executed?

Oh, I don't remember. Oh, hold on. I'm going to give you a clue. You have bread and wine. Which one Did Jesus break?

Oh, the bread. The the the baker died. Yeah. There you go.

Okay. Yeah. Alright? Got Oh, I like that. I like that.

That's very cool. All right.

Well, good deal, Matt. Keep doing what you're doing, man. I'll keep on listening to you. Praise God, brother. I'm glad you like the show, all right.

All right, man. God bless. Okay. God bless. Bye.

Okay. Hey, when you call up, folks, you don't have to be nervous. You're just talking to me. It's no big deal, okay? But Alberto does need to be nervous.

Alberto from Georgia, welcome, brother. You're on the air again.

Okay, good evening, Nathan. My question is. I don't know, all this of uh Christianity Christian Uh Provide for the body of Christ, all these commentaries, all these books, and all the So the belief. the mass majority of Christian United States whether we'll ever use these materials. and their lifetime or a quiet I mean, most churches are biblical illiterate, so all this so all these resources.

Has it done any good to the budget crisis in reality? I don't understand your question.

Well, all the resources that they create about different topics, about Christianity, about Christ. life for the Christian living, all these different books throughout the decades here in the United States. the the butter as the butter cries has really benefited Believe me. Benefiting from this, or Master Juliabe want to go, boom, go. Which way?

Okay, well, let's do this, Alberto. Ask a question.

Okay. Formula question. To do that, you have to understand what the topic is and what your inquiry is related to that topic.

So your topic is about books?

Okay, so we're going to go back to the book. All these commentaries, all these commentaries, commentaries and books, and the different. All nature stood up for the body of Christ. Does the body of Christ really benefit from it?

Okay, what reality? What's your question? What's your question? That's my question. Are they really benefiting from it from all this stuff that they provided for the body of Christ, all these commentary?

Yeah, people do benefit from them. They benefit from good commentaries, good books, various books. There's all kinds of stuff that's very beneficial. The case for Christ, evidence that demands a verdict. Knowing God by J.A.

Packner is good. Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem. Mere Christianity is pretty good. By CS Lewis. There's all kinds of books that are really good, okay?

Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, question. Why? With the body of Christ, they all claim, I'm a Baptist, I'm a Lafayette, I'm a Calvinist, I'm reformed. But the Bible never mentions none of these titles.

We just ch we're a child of God, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. The reason it's done is because the words are shorthand for a certain theological position.

So if someone says they're Roman Catholic, that's different than being a Protestant. It's different and inside of that, Armenian is different than a Calvinist. And so when I do TikToks, for example, I'll ask people what's your age, because they have to have a certain age to get on, and your worldview. And I want to know what they're coming from. And if they say they're Christian, sometimes I'll ask what church do you go to?

If they say Roman Catholic, I know what's going on, and I know how to answer them accordingly. If they say they're Baptist, okay, then I know how to answer them accordingly.

So these terms are beneficial, they're useful. For a quick access to theological perspectives.

Okay. All right.

They're useful. I agree with you, though. I think that they should just call Christians. But Catholics aren't Christians, neither Roman Cath or Eastern Orthodox or the Mormons. or the Jehovah's Witnesses.

So we need these kind of terms to differentiate.

Okay? Oh, okay. All right, thank you. All right.

Well, God bless, brother.

Alright.

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