Matt Slick Live

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Hi everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. If you want to give me a call, as usual, it's easy. 877-207-2276. It's a nice Wednesday.

Let's see, March 18th, 2026 for the podcasters. And also, you can send me an email if you're interested. Info at carm.org, info at carm.org. If you have a question or a comment, just send it there and put in the title. Subject line, radio comment, or radio question, and we can get to stuff.

Easy peasy. All right. And I just, for the people who've been going to info, and so I just. spent some time, I reset the entire email system. The entire thing at info.

So, hopefully, any problems that were there. Will be resolved. There's a couple of things.

Sometimes people email us, they don't get it.

So we've really been working on it for literally for weeks, trying to figure things out. And so this was the most drastic level thing I did today. And hopefully, it'll work. Let's get to Brent from North Carolina. Brent, welcome.

You are on the air. Brent, uh, Mr. Maxlick, how are you today, sir? I'm doing okay. Good, okay.

How are you doing? Oh, Mr. Mr. Mack in the book of Isaiah It stayed at that. whomever have made a covenant with Death.

have made large their refuge and hid behind. Absolutely. Why are people continually lying when there is a plethora? and a myriad of knowledge out here. People know that Oh yes, sir, I'm asking a question.

Why are people continually keep lying when people can research now and discover that Lives have been orchestrated. From the Roman Catholic Church throughout the world. Why are we continuing to keep lying to people? That's my question for today. You include yourself in that, said we.

Um Well, I don't know.

Well, I don't. I'm not sure what your specific question is. I work hard on exposing the false doctrines of. Roman Catholicism. Um Okay.

A lot of people don't know. Jesus? Yeah, sure. That that originated from the Roman Catholic Church, sir, in case you didn't know that. No, it didn't.

The Roman Catholic Church did not get its real start until the Donatist era of the late 300s. Maybe early trainers should has to do with uh with the people who Lightest Yeah. There were people who gave up sacred documents during a certain persecution, and there was a question of whether or not they should allow those people who've repented to come back into the church. And so there was a council that was granted. A bunch of people got together to decide it.

I think that's where the Roman Catholic Church first got its start. It was not from the very beginning, okay. Yes, sir.

Now, one other question. In the book of Jude, it talks about the book of Enoch.

Now, book uh, the book of Enoch is a book that's very pertinent to people's learning. Why are documents For you, sir. No, go ahead.

Sorry. Why are documents, books, been hidden? For ages that a majority of the earth don't know nothing about. They gave us fifty six books.

Now, if you know what 666 represents, 66 hips. signifies the devil, man's number. Why do they count the church in the city? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Go ahead.

666 is not the same number as 66.

Okay. About the same number? Sure. Y'all? Wake up!

Yeah, I've got coffee and people very good. What's that? Huh, go ahead. 666 is not the same number as 66.

There's a difference of 600. I wonder why they sent us or the Catholic Church sent out fifty six books. From the wrong uh from the New Tr uh King James, King James Version, New World Translation. I wonder why. And who taught religions?

Okay, you you're not focusing, you're all over the map, okay.

So you're trying to draw a relationship. You're trying to draw a relationship between the w the number 66 and 666. They're not the same number.

So, to draw that conclusion is erroneous. They didn't give us the Bible. They recognized, the Christians, early Christians, recognized the scriptures. That's all it is, and the Book of Enoch is not inspired. It's not part of the Christian canon.

Okay. Yeah.

So, so then, one other question. At the end of the day, are you going to be judged by Yahushua or are you going to be judged by Jesus?

Well, the Bible says his name is Jesus, Matthew 1.21. As just the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew Yeshua.

So Jesus, Yeshua is the same thing. and be judged by the Lord Jesus. That's the same thing. Yeah.

It's the same name. Just like my name in English is Matthew and in Spanish is Matteo. They're the same name. It's pronounced different ones. But Act 2 and 8 said there is no other name.

What does no other mean? It means no other. And the name is Jesus. That's what the text context says: Jesus in Greek. Yes, sir.

So the ne the letter J haven't been in existence for 490 years, correct? That's correct.

So are you saying then that you had to pronounce it properly in order for it to be true? I didn't understand questions. Are you saying it to pronounce the name properly in order for it to be true. Is that what you're saying? What I'm explaining to you today, sir, the name Jesus Jays have not been in existence for 490 years.

I got that. I got that. The word homosexual didn't come into existence until the early 1900s, but it's now used in the Bible. To translate Arcenekoitas in First Corinthians 6:9, for example. Where it talks about man betters.

And so just because a word came up later or a letter pronunciation came up later doesn't mean it's not a reflective of the original.

So the word like mateo is simply Spanish. Matias in Greek is my name.

Okay. So it's a translator. Oh man. Uh I don't think you understand the basic logic. I don't think you understand basically.

I do. No, you don't. Oh, I'm asking a question then one of the points. Who were the translators? I don't know the names of the translators, okay?

So the word, for example. You don't know who translated the name? Yes, or did Jesus? No, I don't know. A guy named Bob?

I don't know. Look, let me show you something. Investigate that. Don't you think that would be very important? No.

In Matthew 9:9, it says the word is Matthew. In Greek, it's Mathaion. That's correct.

My name is Matthew.

So which is the correct name, Matthaion or Matthew? Mate, Jahan. Then so I'm not really Matthew if I call myself Matthew in the English, when it's Matthaion in the Greek?

Well, let me ask you a question. Answer that question. Answer the question. Just because it's pronounced differently, does it mean my name is not Matthew, or I'm not really Matthew, if the Greek that I'm named after, Matthew in the Bible, is Matthaion?

So is that how I'm supposed to be called? Math Mathayon? Yes, sir, because you can change the meaning, the whole meaning. That's why when they transferred the slaves into America, they changed their names. Once you change the name of the city, I don't care about the slaves in America.

I don't care. What I care about is what the Bible says.

Okay, so what the Bible says, I'm trying to get you to understand, it his name is Jesus. That's what it says in the Greek, that's the language of Jesus. Yes, it is. His name is Yeshua. No, find me a Greek manuscript where it's Yeshua is this name.

Find it for me. It doesn't exist.

Okay. So his name is that Yes Yo. Man. You Hebrew Israelite. Go ahead.

Man. You black Hebrew Israelite. Look, you did my father when you did. You guys fail basic logic. You got it.

Yeah, you guys. That's right. You guys. That's right. You guys fail basic logic.

I can present a very logical, very simple argument with you, and you guys just don't seem to be able to have the wherewithal to be able to understand basic logic.

Okay, yeah, but I understand.

Now look, but the blood point. The blood moon was here. And the river in Israel was turned into blood. I know you're laughing. You won't be laughing for long.

When you become when you come against the Hebrew Israelites, You're going to bring judgment on yourself, sir. Hebrew Israelites, non-Christian cult. Full of racists. And I will just form a challenge if you want to get one of your best BHI guys to debate me on who Jesus is according to the Bible or something like that. We can do that.

We can set it up.

Okay. But it's not a debate, Mr. R Slick. Match lit. It's not a debate, it's about truth.

Truth is what liberates and emancipates people. Y'all keep teaching your style calls and your Easter binary. You're not going to liberate people, sir. It's Jesus who is Jesus. Jesus is the one who frees us.

Look, my last name is Slick, right? That's my real name. Matt Slick. That's right. That's right.

Okay. The word slick is a shortened version of the German schlichtin. That's where it came from in Germany, Schlichteen. All right. S-C-H-L-I-C-H-T-I-N-G.

That's it. And it got shortened because it became a nickname. Schlichteen was hard to say for the average Joe American.

So when my dad's mom. was asked what's his name, surname, she just said slick because it became the nickname that everybody called my dad's dad and all that kind of stuff.

Now, so Schlichten is the heritage from Germany that I come from. which shortened became slick.

So is slick my real name, or not a proper name? For me. Which one? Mm-hmm.

Sorry. You could you could try to Fence it up any way you want to. I've just heard you're logged in. I'm not lying. You're lying to the people.

No, I'm not lying to the people. And you know you're lying. 23 years. Look, look, stop. No, no, no.

You can't tell them what my is in my heart. You don't know if I'm purposely lying or not. I asked you a question about my surname. Schlichtin which became slick, About a hundred years ago. And her ancestor.

So I'm just asking you. I'm just asking you, is that my real name now? It's a different name. for English than it is in German. No offense, sir.

They have altered and plagiarized and lied about so much. People don't even know the truth from a lie now. They're the lie is a truth, and the truth is a lie. And you know what? They're lying so much.

They're professional liars. You know what a Christian is? The BHI group is a lie from the devil. You are going to be a little bit more. Yeah, I know what a Christian is.

Someone who's been dwelt by the Lord Jesus Christ, regenerated by Jesus, who died on the cross, rose from the dead, who's God in flesh. That's who Jesus is. He has two natures: a divine nature and a human nature. And you deny that. Hey, sir, you can be saved today if you come up under the Abrahamic seed.

Abraham, do you know who Abraham was? Yeah, Abraham. I'm always aware of the. Oh, you're aware of Abraham. Because it says in Genesis 12:3, in you, Abraham, all the nations shall be blessed.

Paul quotes that in Galatians 3:8 and calls it the gospel.

So we're justified by faith in Christ. It's salvation's by faith in Jesus. And you don't know who he is. You don't know who he is. We gotta call our witnesses.

And I don't want to know about Jesus Christ, but you don't know who he is because you're not saved. Look, we gotta go. Call back tomorrow, okay, buddy? Or later in the show you got lines full. Oh.

See, now I'm turning up the heat a little bit and I'm back in. I just said, you know, I like to listen for a while and then see and then. Tackle it. Maybe right back after these messages. Please stay toned.

Yeah.

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Let's get on the air with. Mike from North Carolina. Mike. You're live. All right, thank you.

That last few minutes was kind of painful. We have a lot of those. Israelites in our city of Durham have caused some problems. But anyhow, I was calling about. Genesis three sixteen, specifically with Yet Your Desire Will Be For Your Husband.

And he'll roll over you. Um does that influence modern feminism? Or is that why women try to be like men. Does that make sense?

So the word desire occurs three times in the Old Testament, right here and in Son of Solomon. And also in Genesis 4:7, the Song of Solomon. it deals with having a desire for your lover. In Genesis 4:7, it says, God warns Cain, sin is crouching at the door, and his desire is for you.

So here it's on a negative sense.

Now, what's interesting is now, this is a very debated text. I'm just letting you know. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.

So, what the commentaries that I've read and studied about this over the years have leaned towards. Is that The woman's desire will then be to take the place of her husband and want to be the one who's leading and in control. And it says, that's why it says, and yet he will rule over you.

So that's what I lean towards because of the context. And also Adam and Eve were in the garden. And the hierarchical structure is reflective of the Trinity. The Father sent the Son, the Father and the Son send the Holy Spirit. The Father gave or God gave Adam dominion.

and he gave him the power to Name the animals, the authority to name the animals, and he named Eve as well, signifying his authority. Satan, instead of going straight to Adam, went to Eve. and tried to get to Adam by going to her. She listened. to him And sin, but sin entered the world through him, Adam, not through her.

So, in light of all of this, it seems to be. that there is a curse upon the woman for a failure act properly in her role as the means by which The meaning of the earth is is um carried out through the propagation of of children, And so then in that, she's going to have childbirth pain. And also, that your desire to believe for your husband is part of the curse in that she will want to be in charge, rule. etc., and yet it's going to be conflict in this. It's not to say that women are to have opinions and things like that, but this is the basic opinion, a basic theological perspective it seems to be getting into.

Okay. Yeah, where this came up, I've been married over 20 years. My wife took my last name, but recently she was. Saying that, oh, maybe I should have kept my maiden name. She appreciates other women who have kept their maiden name.

And I'm like, that's horrible. We're married. We've become one. We're one family. We're represented.

The last name is the representation of our family, but yet her and other women have that desire to have that as their last name. And I just started trying to pick apart the Bible, figuring out where does this come from? Where women are kind of they want even some of the hardships. Like You want to go work 40 hours a week? You think that's fun?

Like, why are we doing this? Yeah, i i um in my opinion, unless there's a very good reason, say I married a famous actress who had to keep her last name, uh, type thing, okay, fine. But other than that, no, I I would never marry a woman who wouldn't take my last name. Because she is signaling opinion. She's signaling rebellion, and just as you said, you're one family.

And one flesh as you come together, and she wants to retain her form of independence. That to me is a serious warning flag. Yeah.

I would ask follow-up questions: Do you have different checking accounts? Things like that. No. No. When we got married, we combined everything.

And we've been like that for over 20 years. I think she. has been around some younger women who have You find it influence her over How younger women think. Is your wife a Christ a Christian woman? Absolutely.

Okay, I'm going to show you something. She just kind of mentioned it in passing, and it kind of set me off a little bit.

Okay, I'm going to. I don't think that there's.

Okay. I want to show you something in Scripture, okay? I want the women to listen to this, and it's going to upset a lot of women.

So, uh When I do marriage counseling, I've done a lot of marriage counseling over the years. On both sides of the table, but I've talked to 36 couples who had marriage problems. And I've learned a great deal. And I I want to produce a course called The Theology of Marriage. But women, men are failing too, but we're going to talk about this: the female aspect here.

women are listening to false teachers. And they are desiring to become independent of their husbands. In um in many ways. And the lack of respect for who the husband is. is very obvious.

in our culture. Uh women today. Are highly independent, but I don't need no man, is a common phrase I hear. I under Men are useless, men are this. There's this derogatory kind of attitude about men.

All right. So what I do is I talk to women about this and I say, is it true? that wen that men are supposed to love you Even if you're not lovable sometimes. And they say, of course. I said, so his obligation to you of love and support is not dependent upon how nice you are on a particular day or.

Few hours or whatever, right? Or even for a week or two, right? And they say, that's correct. This is okay. And I've done this.

I'm going to slow down and probably get at the break because a lot of people need to hear this.

So I've done this, and I've said to the men, in cat classes I've taught on this. What does it mean to love your wife? And then I write things down on the chalkboard. Or taught us. you know too to uh support her, to protect her.

to listen to her. To not yell at her, you know, um to help her with groceries, to help her in the kitchen, to clean up, to do all these things. And I asked the woman, Is this right? and they say, Yes. You know, and a few other things I'll add.

I said, Okay, that's correct.

Now, I said to the women, What does it mean to respect your husband? And always, every time I've done it, they've all got it wrong. All of them. Every time. I've not heard a single woman.

uh say that are that are recalled anyway Say to what it means to respect your husband. I'm going to get into this a little bit because I'm going to go to Peter, talk about something that's going to shock people. But it's needed.

So, I'm using you as an excuse to teach on this a little bit. All right. No, I'm ecstatic. I can't wait to hear it. Oh, it's good stuff.

So I say to the women, Was it mean to respect your husband? Oh, do what he says And uh uh be nice to him. And make him sandwiches, you know, these kind of things. And I say to the men, is that what it is? And they all say, no.

Okay. Let's see, why is it, and I'm gonna tell them what respect is. Why is it the men know what it means to love their wives and the wives agree, but the women don't know what it means to respect their husbands? What's in the church that's happening that women don't know it and in society that women don't know it? Very serious issue.

I'm going to get to this in a little bit. Oh, hold on. We got some stuff to talk about. I'm going to hang up because I got to go do something, but I'm going to keep listening, okay? Keep listening.

All right, that's fine.

Alright, hey folks, I'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. And if you're a lady or you want to have a moment listen to this...

Well I'm gonna irk them. I'll get them irked. by what the Bible actually says we write that. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Alright everybody, welcome back to the show.

So What I'm going to do is go over some little stuff here. I'm hoping that the ladies are listening and taking notes. And um This is important. It's one of the aspects of marriage that a lot of women aren't even aware of. and I'm going to show you something from Scripture.

So, the issue of respect, most women don't know what it means. And that most women I that I've encountered, let's just say, they don't know what it means. They misunderstand it as an issue of obedience submission. And that's not what it is. Respect for your husband is to acknowledge his position as the head of the family.

and to support him in that. to not undermine his efforts in that. and to uplift. his efforts to provide for the family. Women often excuse me.

Women often will Ridicule. a man's uh attempt to provide. to protect.

Now he's gonna make mistakes, of course. But We're not saying that a woman has to respect everything he does, but you're supposed to respect him. Because of his position. Here's his position biblically. By definition, he's the head of the family.

And if you don't like that, then just take Ephesians 5 out of your Bible. He's the head of the wife. That's how it is. He's the one responsible for a lot of things in the family. And I'm not going into too many details.

I'm going to give the general stuff here. And the woman is to respect that position he has in the family. to show that honor and respect. A woman should not be speaking down ab to about her husband. behind his back to other people.

Even uh her girlfriends. If she is in a public situation, Where she is speaking evil of him. Oh, he's no good at this, he's no good at that, he can't this, he can't that. I wish this more about him. Blah, blah, blah.

You're disrespecting your husband. And You should not do that to anybody. You shouldn't do that. What I do advise some couples is sometimes a woman just needs someone to talk to. And then you have an agreement with you and the husband where you agree that the wife can go and talk smack about him to her one best friend or whatever that can be trusted to not um I spread that.

Because sometimes women just do need someone to talk to and get things off their chest, and I get that. I get that, but it has to be done properly. And most women don't know how to do that, they will just vent. And women are often very uh emotionally driven and so they want to vent their their their stuff before people because it's an emotional release. And this can become sinful because they're then slaves to their emotions, not the other the uh they should control their emotions.

and show that respect of the husband.

So again, it's to acknowledge his position as the head of the family and to support him in that and to uplift his efforts to provide for that and protect for the family. It does not mean approving everything he does.

So if you are out with your friends And something comes up about what men do, your husbands do, and you're talking smack about their husbands, and it's your turn to kind of volunteer something, you don't say anything. You don't talk spec about him. You don't sit and belittle him before others. And if you have a criticism you want to raise, then you need to talk to him about it personally. This is what needs to be done.

Women don't understand the position that they have. as the submissive one, in the family. Just as Jesus was submitting to the will of the Father.

So, if a woman is submitting to the will of the husband, now we're talking about a normal godly situation. If he's a jerk, that's a whole different set of things we can talk about. I'm just giving you the basics. This is the basics. If he's a moron who does repeatedly bad stuff, you've got to know there are things we can talk about to take care of that and what you do.

But we're not talking about that level right now. But it does say that In Ephesians Ephesians 5.22, Why is we subject to your own husbands as to the Lord? Subject means in his authority as the husband in the family. He is the head of the wife, verse twenty three, just as Christ is the head of the church.

So, his job is to emulate the love of Christ to you, and your job, women, is to emulate Christ's submission to the Father as you submit to your husband. in a godly way. And so, just as a church is subject to Christ, so also wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. Husbands love your wives, just as Christ loved the church.

Now, how did he love the church? He taught. He performed miracles, he healed, and he died, To protect and deliver his bride. I can go on. There's so much to talk about.

I'm just skipping a lot of stuff. But uh Paul goes on in verse in Ephesians 5:32, This mystery is great, but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church. Nevertheless, each individual among you. Also, he ought to love his own wife, even as himself, and a wife must see to it that she respects her husband. I've asked women: is your husband worth respect?

And there's a lot of them will say no. I said, why not?

Well, because he doesn't treat me right, he doesn't love me right. It's always about what they get. That's what I've seen. He didn't treat me right. And I say But you're obligated to respect him irrespective of how he treats you.

Now, we're not talking about guys being jerks, that's another topic.

So, you want him to love you irrespective of how you treat him. but you don't want her to show respect to your husband irrespective of how he treats you. That's hypocrisy. hypocrisy. a form of deceit and and lying.

You're saying one thing and doing another.

So there's a lot of points here, and a lot of women don't get this because they're never taught this from the pulpit. And they've not taught this from counseling. When my wife and I, I'm gonna get to Peter here in a second. When my wife and I had first married, we had some problems. And we went to counseling, we went to three or four different ones.

And I ended up walking out, and the last one I was done. And the reason was because it was all about how evil I was. And it was, I just got so tired of the man being bashed always. And I talked to other men who said the exact same thing. Oh, it's just about how bad the guy is, one way or another.

And men just give up. They don't want to talk anymore. They want to do it anymore. They withdraw. Let me get into all this stuff now.

I'm going to show you something. It says in um First Peter three Verse 5 For in this way in formal ti former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used to adorn themselves, being submissive to their own husbands. Yeah, I there's so many things I could talk to you about. When you are, in that sense, submissive to your husband in a godly way. You're trusting him.

He doesn't have to fight you any more. What he's got to do is fight himself. because now he wants to lead in the best way he can. And by you being in submission to that leadership in a loving, godly way. Not mocking and condemning.

If he makes a mistake, it's on him. And if you are supportive of him in that, you have no idea what that'll accomplish. In your marriage. and in his trust of you. And it says The Adius adorned themselves, being submissive to their own husband, just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him Lord.

I've asked women. Would you ever call your husband Lord? It's right there in Scripture. calling him Lord. Sarah called Abraham Lord.

Why? The technology. And you have, he said, the text goes on: you have become her children if you do what is right. without being frightened by any fear. You're trusting the Lord.

Now we're talking. What I'm doing is laying down the basics. I understand, ladies, some guys. Are really bad, I get it. We're not talking about that at the moment, what we do.

That's another topic. We're talking about the norm and what God has set up and how we're all supposed to adhere to it.

So calling him Lord, I ask the ladies, I've done this, would you call him Lord? And they say no, and I say, why? They said, because he's not Jesus. I say, okay, he's not Jesus, granted.

So you would not call him lord. And they think I'm crazy. I said I'm not asking you to do it. Why are you refusing so quickly and so easily, so naturally? Because what he's she's doing, Sarah was doing, was calling him Lord, not in the sense that he's God or some supernatural whatever, but because of his position that he was in.

she recognized that and submitted to that position. What I asked the ladies, do you recognize your husband's submission to God and your submission to him as he submits to God? And do you respect him? His position as the man of the house, that lord of the house, in that sense. And the women don't want to say yes.

I've seen this so many times. They don't want to. And this is a great problem in Christian marriages. humongous problem. Because women need to know their place, men need to know their place.

It's simple. And I asked the ladies, we're talking about the ladies, not the guys right now, why is it you won't submit to his position as the head of the house? in that lordship that he has. Because they're rebellious and they've listened to the speeches of feminists all over. and the liberals who don't submit to God.

And I say Let me show you something. Women, watch this. I turned to the man who's done this so many times. I say, wait a minute, I'm going to see if you expect the reaction that I'm going to predict is going to happen here. I've got a break coming up.

So I may have to take a break here and I'm going to tell you what I do would have done before. When I talked to the men, about this issue of lordship in the house. You need to hear this, ladies. You need to hear this what it is. Because so many women do not understand their place in a marriage.

just has a lot of that don't use her. be right back after these messages, please. Sneak. Yeah.

It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All Robert, welcome back to the show. Let me kind of wrap this one thing up about the marriage and women stuff. And we'll get on with the callers.

This is something that's dear to my heart. I've counted a lot of people on this, so I was going to just say this. When I've done this in classes before and taught in Bible studies, And I say to the women, watch this. I say to the men, men, let's just say that you come home one day from work, whatever, your wife is there with you, whatever. She says that she's going to call you Lord.

Only in private, occasionally, not as a mockery, but as a submission to the idea of what the scripture says, and as a recognition of your authority. and your position in the household as the leader of the house. And I asked the man How would you feel about that? And all of them say we wouldn't like it. And I stop them and I say to the women, Why do you think that is?

Because I'm not surprised by the answer. And they're not sure. I go back to the men, why? And they say, Because then we've got to live it. To live based largely on what you require of them.

If you belittle them, Then I'll live it. if you exalt them and respect them. And you showed them that in that house. You'd be surprised what'll happen. You will be surprised.

A lot of women don't know this, and a lot of women, unfortunately, are listening to the lies of feminism. The lies of you need to be independent, the lies of you need to keep my last name and have my own bank account, and I need to have my own this, my own that. And Yeah. No, thanks. I want nothing to do with that.

Yeah.

Nothing to do with it.

Okay, let's get on the air. Let's see. Scott from Spokane. You've been waiting a long time, Scott. Welcome.

You're on the air. Hey, how's it going, Matthaion? That's right. Put they on. All right, man.

What do you got, buddy? Hey. Yeah, so um One quick question, and then just a request before I hang up.

So, my question has to do with Revelation chapter 3. Uh verse thirteen.

So in Revelation 3.13, it mentions A guy named Antipas, which makes me think of Herod Antipas. And Jesus is calling him my faithful one, my witness, who was killed among you.

So I'm just wondering, who is that? That can't be Herod, right? I mean. Revelation Uh 213.

Okay. Oh yes, 213, sorry. To Pergamum, which I've been to Pergamum. That's great. I know that dwell uh So uh even if I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is, and you hold fast my name, and did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas.

Antipas, my witness. You do not deny me. Yeah, Antipas. Was a persecutor of of the Christian church, the Christians. And that's all it is.

It's just that's What it is. Antipause.

Okay. So it's not saying Antipas was the faithful one, it's saying in the days of him, and it's talking about somebody else.

Well Hmm. I I'm not sure. Uh I'm not sure. Because it says he's my witness. And so It looks like, yeah, okay, get my head on straight here.

So. You dwell where Satan's throne is. You held fast my name, did not deny my name. Even with Antipos.

So, Antipos apparently was a witness because it is marked from the word martyr in Greek.

So he was a Christian martyr, a faithful one, who was killed among you. And so apparently something happened where this individual Um Was martyred for the Christian faith. That's what it looks like.

Okay, yeah, I would say the same. We probably just aren't told much about whoever this individual is, because it just made me think, I can't be talking about Herod himself, right?

So that was all I was really wondering. And then just before I hang up, I was just wondering if you could expound. Yesterday you ended the show with somewhat of a cliffhanger when you said tomorrow you would talk about the new heavens and the new earth.

So I was just wondering about that, and I'll pass it back to you. New heavens and new earth. I don't think I mentioned that yesterday, but maybe I did. But I'm not sure. Yeah, someone called with a question.

He said, call back tomorrow. I have some really interesting stuff on the new heavens and the new earth. Ugh. Yeah.

I yeah. Yeah, if I okay, I'm thinking, should I get into that now or get to the callers who've been waiting for a long time? I think I'm going to get to the callers because I'm going to talk about their stuff later.

Okay. Yeah.

But yeah, there's some stuff I can show people, but they're nowhere.

Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, get to them, and I'll talk to you later, my friend. All right, man. God bless.

Okay. You too.

Okay. All right, now next longest waiting is Kent from North Carolina. Kent, welcome. You're on the air. Hey Mac, how you doing, buddy?

I'm not hitting it. Hey Matt, one quick question. Question No one never asked. What is the truth? How would you define the truth?

And what makes you stand behind the truth? What is the truth? The truth is Jesus Christ. He says, I am not. He says he's a truth.

John 14, 6. Do you deny that Jesus is the truth? Uh well Then concerning my studies I do my own research. I find that we are up under, we believe in myth over the truth.

Well, Jesus. Is this true? Is a statement true? Where Jesus says in John 14:6, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me.

Is he true or is he telling the truth or not? I think that's a doctrine of error there, a doctrine of demon. Because when we said we are from different doctrines, and a lot of people don't. That's a doctrine of error, yes. That's a doctrine of error, you serve.

Okay, so how do you know Jesus was wrong? That falls upon a doctrine of error because what the truth has been hidden. You're saying he was wrong, but yet he rose from the dead. And no one else has done that. And the resurrection proves that he was true.

There was a Savior. I want to go back to what you were you as following what you were saying about the um about the females in uh I I think what's the problem within the church is there's a lot of confusion The church has a lot of hypocritical things going on in the church, such as lying and a lot of the days in the churches. We have so many problems going on with the dump and what are the the denominations? Denominations are no more than a demon of nations. Why the church is so divided if there's only one God, one Lord and one Savior, why we have so many different denominations?

Okay. I'm going to say this, and then we'll get on to the next caller. You apparently are not able to focus on things that are said, to discuss one thing at a time. You ge generally tend to ignore what I say and go on to other things.

So we're going to just move along. And let's get to Steve from Ohio. Steve, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt.

I've got a genuine question I was hoping you might be able to help me with. It's about. baptism and communion. I know baptism doesn't save you. It's identification with the burial and death and resurrection of Christ.

It's an identity thing. It's also being obedience to Christ. I also understand that That taking communion doesn't save you, you know, and I understand the symbolism about all that as well. My question is. Is there an order in the Bible about receiving communion after you're baptized, or vice versa, or doesn't it matter?

It doesn't say anything like that in the Bible.

So, the instructions that do occur in the Bible on what to do in order to receive communion. is to be able to discern the body rightly in First Corinthians eleven. Nothing in there says you have to be baptized first. And so we don't have anything in the scripture that tells us. He just doesn't.

Okay. Okay, yeah, I mean, I honestly genuinely want to know because I don't want to be believing something that's not biblically support. supported and I thought I'd call in. Because I know that there's some churches who will say, well, you've got to be baptized first, and then you receive communion. And I know, like in the book of Acts, when people believed they were immediately baptized, and a lot of times it was that same day, and then they received the bread.

But I don't know if that's something that's really dogmatic or if that's something because people did this the same day, compared to today when people might not get baptized immediately after coming to faith.

So just quickly, because I know you want to get on to another caller. No, no, we don't have to. It's okay. Here's the last one.

Okay, cool.

Okay, cool.

You know, so um you know, I like for instance in Um My own experience, I came to faith and was saved out of Roman Catholicism in August 2004. But I didn't get baptized until like almost two years later. But I saw people in the church that were receiving communion before they were being baptized. And so You know, that's why I was wondering, okay, uh, or an example, let's say, for instance, someone comes into the church, an unbeliever, they hear the gospel, they make a profession of faith for Christ, they really genuinely get that Jesus saved. They wouldn't have to wait to be baptized before they received communion.

Like, what if they had communion service? occurring at that particular service. You're saying they wouldn't have to wait to be baptized. If they truly, really got it and made that profession of faith, they could receive communion that day. Yeah, that's my opinion.

And I've actually written an article on this back in 2019. But um I don't see anything in scripture that says you have to be baptized in order to take communion. Baptism is a public declaration and covenant sign of your commitment to Christ. And so if you're at a church that happens to be taking communion, And you get saved the week before, and you're attending, and they have communion. You're not yet baptized, you're in the roles to get baptized, let's just say.

I'd say, take communion. If someone wants to say no, they can't. I'd say, show me that in scripture. I mean, not to, you know, be mean. It's just, well, where does it say in the scripture?

The only admonition, like I said. discern the body properly. That's what it says. What we're going to do. Right, and you said you wrote an article about this.

Is this on a CARM website? Of course, yeah. Uh-huh. Of course, yeah. I didn't know if obviously you don't know off the top of your head because I'm just coming to you now, but um I don't know if you could put the link in the live chat or should I just do my own searching?

Yeah, if you go to uh Carm, I'll put I'll try and put in both. Uh let's hit go to here. And there, but if you just go to Carm and just type in, can an unbaptized believer take communion? That's the title of the article.

Okay. Okay. I could find it that way then.

So okay. All right. That's really the only thing I want to ask. It was very helpful. Thank you, and God bless, and God bless your ministry.

I've learned a lot from you over the years.

Well, praise God. Praise God. Praise God. I like that. I want people to learn.

And grow in fellowship and relationship and understanding and truth of who Jesus is. All right. All right. God bless and grace to you. You too.

God bless.

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We're moving away from an old one, antiquated one, we're getting to the new one, it's great. There's that. And as far as the stuff on marriage goes that I spoke about earlier. I'm hoping a lot of women We're listening. and Ben Two.

And I would love to be able to do a seminar on this and really teach and really get down in it because there's so much people don't know. And I do believe that Mirage is under attack. And I also believe that a proper biblically theologically based understanding of marriage needs to be presented along with the roles that we have according to God, what that means, and how to resolve problems when one or both of the marriage partners are not doing their job. There needs to be more of this. We need to strengthen marriage, not weaken it.

May the Lord bless you by His grace. We'll be back on there tomorrow. I'm sorry.

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