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All right. Happy uh Monday to you. Hey, thanks, man. You too, brother.

So what do you got? I wanted to ask about the thief on the cross and the woman at the well. On both those situations, Both of those people were kind of ostensibly guilty, but I wondered if are those examples of people may be having relationships with Christ and their most intimate moments that we're not aware of because a lot of people pass judgment, but You know, someone's prayed for that person. isn't it possible that God God's kind of dealing with them in ways that you're not aware of?

Okay. Yeah, it's always possible that God's dealing with someone we're not aware of because we don't know their hearts, we don't know their minds. We can know that the Lord can work by dreams, visions. He can work by just Innumerable coincidences that start shaking someone up, and how many times you're going to see the same thing. Conviction, the power of the word.

Someone could say something. Written in the scriptures, or just a word that someone says to you that just shakes people up.

So God can certainly do that. and we're just not aware of it. And that's why we gotta just trust and go forward. the best we can.

So I'm not sure that answers the question about that, but there you go there. Do it. It does um maybe and I probably could have did a better job composing it. I guess what I mean to say is should we kind of reserve judgment on people? Because I hear a lot of folks get real judgmental they just know without a doubt this person's headed to hell and I know there have been some people who may give us that impression, but just You know, kind of curious if this is a case of, are these examples of, like, hey, you may not know what's going on.

Right. you know, between the lines with somebody. Exactly. There can be people who are struggling with God, and on the outside, they're maintaining what they've always done, but internally, they're struggling. And they could be in a context of friends or family.

They've always said one thing, and their heart is being broken. And, and, uh, there's moving towards another, but they don't want everybody to know yet.

So they could certainly have That's why people talk to me and they say you know um You know, I talked about election, predestination, because that's what the Bible teaches. The Catholics, you know, I was talking to some Catholics last night, and they might ask, well, what about this person? Do you know that person? Are they going to be saved or not? That's not up to me.

Mm-hmm. You know, I just tell people what the Bible says, and um We don't know what God is doing to them and with them and through them. We just don't know. That's all. And just trust and go forward.

Yeah. That's what we do, that's what we're supposed to do anyway.

Okay. All right, well I think that's good enough for me today. Good.

Sorry, I got a yawn in there.

Okay. Good, brother. All right. All right. I appreciate you, man.

Thank you. Amen. You too. God bless.

Alright. You know, that does bring an interesting topic up when he was talking about the issue of how God works with people. You know, me, for example, I wasn't being convicted of very many things. It was just whatever. I went to a church in Waymouth, got tricked into being saved.

I've talked to people, one guy I remember talking to. Uh he told me. that he was on LSD. and that he watched T V for two hours. and then he turned it on.

And that there was someone preaching the gospel just out of nowhere and said, You need to repent.

Someone out there is on a drug thing coming down right now needs to receive Jesus. And wham, the person just said, Okay, and you received Christ. And he said, He told me to my face, he said, His mind cleared instantly. Instantly, that the trip he was on was gone, and he lost all desire for. for that, for this stuff anymore.

Just all it was all gone. And he was changed. You know, I knew a I still know him, a friend of mine from seminary. He said he got saved by walking up front of the church and hadn't really been thinking about it. There wasn't really any conviction going on.

And he just thought, Well, you know, it makes sense, you know, uh Jesus, okay, I need I guess I need Jesus and and uh he went up and received Christ, and he said he felt nothing. Just nothing. And uh And so the next day, I told this story before, he would smoke pot every day with a friend of his, and his friend called him and said, What are you ready to go? And you know, smoke pot. He goes, No, I don't want to.

And he was shocked. Because that would never was the case. It was never the case. And he was shocked that he didn't want to, and he couldn't figure out why until he started thinking about it. He goes, wait a minute.

He says, I believe in Jesus. And it was just a change in him.

Now, there are people who move into this kind of quietly. and quickly. And then there are others who receive Christ because of the prodding of the Holy Spirit's been working on that person for days, weeks, months, sometimes years. And it can be very dramatic. There are people who resist.

There are people who resist to the point where they finally break. They just drop to their knees. And they just start weeping. And they know that the Lord's calling them.

So there's a wide variety of things. The thief on the cross in Luke 23:39 through 43. You know, he was there in the presence of Jesus, and he said, Remember me when you get into the kingdom, and that man was saved. He didn't say the sinner's prayer. But he trusted in Christ.

He just recognized who he was and says, Remember me, you're the one. And he was justified by his faith in Christ.

So we've got to make sure that we understand sometimes that Leading someone to Christ is not by a formula. And I have a message on karm where it's a suggested kind of a prayer you can lead someone to or pray to receive Christ. And I make sure that it's clear, this is not a formula. The idea is a sentiment, normally speaking, where you are trusting in the Lord, recognizing your sin, turning from that sin, and trusting in Christ to forgive you. And that's what it is.

It's not a formula of these particular words.

So there are people who have been saved in different ways. I remember a story that Chuck Smith said when I used to go to his church before he passed away back in the day. And he said there was a story, and I've mentioned this before too on the air. There's a woman who would, new Christian, would go out to the park once a week, maybe Saturdays. And share the gospel with anybody who would listen.

And an atheist found her and started asking her difficult difficult questions. And just would hammer her with stuff, and she didn't have any answers. And she just said, All I know is that Jesus died for my sins, and he can forgive of your sins too, if you just trust in Jesus. That that was all she had. And he got mad and she couldn't answer anything, and just stormed off.

And the next week she's out there, and here he comes again. And he just accosted her verbally that way again with questions, just trying to pin her. And she again just confessed she didn't have answers. She just was trusting in Jesus and told him, you know, if you put your faith in Christ. And um It's on for a couple, three, four weeks, I forgot how long, and until one day he just came to her, and here she, you know, she's like, oh boy, here he comes again.

And he just walked up and said, How do I get saved? The Holy Spirit obviously had been working on him. I remember another story I've read. where a I don't know the situation, don't know what decade, all I know you know, where what country, I don't mean that all I know is this man was arrested for his faith, imprisoned for his Christian faith. And once a day, once every other day, the guards, the jailers, would go in and torture him.

and mock Christ. And um he you know, it was bad and uh he would uh he'd recover. You know For a day or two, and he'd come in again, do this over and over, and he kept. praying and telling them that he forgave them. Each time he says, I'm not mad at you and I forgive you.

and it made him worse, and so he got beat even more, and he kept saying this. And this went on for, I don't know how long, weeks or something like that. and maybe months, I don't know. Until one day a j a guard came in. And he this man was ready to be beaten again.

And the guard just said. How do I receive Jesus? What do I do? And the man led him to Christ right there. And so You know, the Lord has his ways of convicting us.

And the Lord has his way of communicating to us. And friend, here's another story. uh my friend Charlie Spine. uh who read me the quote that got me started in apologetics from Joseph Smith. but he was uh how do I say this politely He was coming back.

He told me the story, and I remember the story. He's coming back from doing bad things in Mexico. Illicit, not good stuff in Mexico. and uh feeding the flesh. And um on the way back, his car broke down.

on the American side of the border and you had to um Call his cousin or something like that. He had to call his cousin to come get him, and his cousin was a Jesus freak, and he didn't want this, you know, Darn, I don't want this guy to help me out because, you know, he's going to. Give me tell me about Jesus again because he didn't want to hear it. And, you know, so he had to call him because I was the only guy who could help him in the area that he knew. And he says, Praise God, be right there and helping him out, transporting and whatever it was.

And in the car, Um You know, he started talking about Jesus, and my friend Chuck said that he didn't want to hear about Jesus. He goes, I believe in God already. And his friend turned to him and said, The devil believes in God you're no better than him. And though I may not get exact every detail right, that's the basic thing of what it was. All right, Charlie?

That's right. Are you nodding? He's nodding. That's right. He's helping us out here.

And he says that just it just was a brick upside the head. He didn't know what to do with it. And it led him to Christ. You know, so God has his ways of communicating his truth to us. For some of us, like stupid, thick-headed morons like myself and Charlie, take something strong and immediate that just hits us upside the head and we can't live.

It's just the conviction's too strong. And with others, like my friend and seminary friend named Mike. who received Christ but didn't feel anything, didn't notice anything. Until the next day. And hadn't been convicted of anything beforehand.

Just thought he'd give Jesus a try, kind of a thing. And so God has his ways of communicating to us, he has his ways of calling us. And the man on the cross, the thief on the cross. I don't we don't know his backstory. It'd be great to meet him though.

Wouldn't it be great to meet him in heaven? See? What was it like? Being there. Being poof.

You know, he's the only one we can ask besides Jesus, what's it like being there next to him, next to Jesus? And maybe we'll sit down one day with him or stand or float. I don't know, and maybe he'll tell us. And uh That he just trusted in in Jesus. We don't know if he was bad the whole time.

We don't know if while up there in the present, now he was on the right side. This is very symbolically important. The right side of Jesus means you're saved, the left side means you're damned. But on the right. And he confessed Christ in order to be saved.

So, all we can do is say, praise God. And God saves his people the way he wants. Hey, folks, we'll right back after these messages. Wide open lines. Give me a call, 877-207-22.

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2276. Let's get to Tony from Texas. Tony, welcome. You're on the air. No, it's it's Cody.

Cody?

Okay, Cody.

Sorry to say that. Yeah. Hey man, I I just was gonna ask you, Matt. Um I ran across a TikTok prompt and I couldn't get to it in time. Because as soon as you get off of there, you kind of lose your being able to join a.

question but uh these guys had this question that just said The Ten Commandments have nothing to do with Christian living. Yes, they do. And they wanted you to debate that. I I just wanted you to go go through that. Yeah, to say that is ridiculous.

Now the Ten Commandments are reiterated. in the New Testament. And they are all reordered except for the new the Sabbath. Because Jesus is our Sabbath. And I have an article on this.

Are the Ten Commandments quoted or referenced to in the New Testament verified? Yes, they are. Yeah. We have to differentiate between the issue of what's the aspects of the law.

So, think of the law as three main aspects: the civil. That's what you do about moving boundary markers and stones and and what happens if a cow is stolen or dies on your property. Priestly, and this deals with uh what the priests in the temples were to do, to wear, proceed with, etcetera. And then the moral law.

Now, the civil law was under Israeli theocratic system, and that's gone because they don't have a theocratic system in Israel anymore. They have a therapist system altogether. And then the priestly is fulfilled in Christ, so we don't need that as well. The moral law, however, is based on the character of God. And so God cannot lie, for example, and Titus 1:2.

This is because it's on his character.

So the issue here, the Ten Commandments about not murdering God stealing, bearing false witness, being truthful. These are still relevant to us.

Now, We are not obligated to keep them in order to become saved or to stay saved. We are justified without the works of the law. But they become a guide that leads us and that shape us and mold us. We know clearly that God has said, You shall not commit adultery, for example.

Well then we don't do that. Because God has said so. and it becomes a a codified way of understanding things. More clearly when we don't listen to the prompting of the Spirit within us. We don't love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, and we're not loving our neighbors as ourselves.

Because if you're doing those two things, you're not going to commit adultery. But Sometimes we're so thick-headed and hard-hearted, we need the codification of that law. And the Ten Commandments serves as that. guide that representation for us.

So it's still relevant to us, but we're not justified by keeping them. We don't keep ourselves saved by keeping them. as the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox m uh mistakenly say.

Okay?

Well, it's interesting, like uh you know, Jesus when he's asked the two greatest commandments, love the Lord your God with all your heart, love your neighbor as yourself, well the love the Lord your God with all your heart is the verse four of the Pentateuch. And then the last six are the love that neighbors yourself because a lot of people say it's just about love. and but they can't define love objectively. And what I found most interesting because, like, when I was a new Christian, like, what does that when everybody starts reading Genesis and starts reading through the Bible, the parts that they don't want to read at all is Leviticus, Deuteronomy, all that kind of stuff. That's where they kind of fall off.

going to get lose interest. But like what I found so interesting is the civil law like like you brought up the civil law of the nation of Israel at the time. like that's predicated all all of that law is predicated on love for neighbor. And our first Supreme Court justice in this country, John Jay, actually drew from the civil laws of the nation of Israel. Because that's what that's what love for neighbor looks like in regards to like punishment.

including death penalty punishments. and restitution. To other people and how off track we've gotten, but like. It it's been it's been a it's Just been fascinating reading through that and applying because I do believe that the equity of those laws applies today, and we should lobby for that. Yeah, but so just, I mean, because they're all moral-based, right?

Yep.

So, um Yeah, I I would agree.

So do you have another question? No, that's all I got for you. All right. So let me ask you, let me ask you a question. Do you believe in the doctrine of the Trinity?

Oh, yeah. Like, I'm the one that sent you the Colossians 2:14 cross and gave you the depressatology term.

Okay, well good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm a uh Reformed Baptist.

Alright, that's good enough. Yeah, I'm always curious when people talk about the law, I gotta make sure that uh they're within the faith, 'cause sometimes those people they really just do it or something. But yeah, I'll just check it, so just making sure. But it's oh, yeah, no, that's the big thing. But let me let me ask you this.

Do you do you think that maybe uh If you don't hold to the five solas, That you're not you're That you're not a Christian. No, you can be ignorant about the five solas. You can be ignorant about the doctrine of the Trinity. It doesn't mean your ignorance then means you're not saved. But open denial of these things would then warrant a concern about one's salvation if they were to openly knowingly deny them.

So that would be another topic because it depends on why they're denying them. If they work, are they denying them adamantly? Are they denying them because they're. Ignorant about what they really are, they've heard, been misrepresented, etc.

So there's different reasons and factors that are involved with it. Sure, for the benefit of your audience, and I'll drop off, but for the different audience, do you mind going through the five solos and just explaining to every so they know what they are? Sure, I can do that if you want. Sure. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Have a good day. God bless, man.

You too, man. God bless.

Alright, so what are the five solas? The five solas are the five, sola means alone.

So scripture alone is one of them, which means that the scriptures alone are the final authority in everything they address. Faith alone is trusting in Christ by faith. You're justified by faith alone. And sola gratia is alone. Is uh maybe we should do it this way: sola scriptura is faith is scripture alone, sola fide.

Is faith alone, and sola gratia is grace alone, that the sovereign work of God is by his grace alone.

Sola Christas, which is Christ alone, is the only way to God, and sola deia gloria, which is to the glory of God alone. And so these are the five solas. And if people were to deny them, they could deny them in ignorance. If they were to knowingly deny all of them, That would be a problem because there's you know to Christ alone. There can be the case of people just being ignorant, but true believers.

What they're going to do is they're going to affirm them. Once they've been corrected, once they've been shown in scripture, etc. But you could have someone technically, no, I don't believe that until they're taught and they go, wait a minute, that's what it says. And then there you go, that kind of thing. All right.

Alright. Now, let's get to Steve from South Carolina. Steve, welcome on the air. Hey, hi there. Hi, Matt.

I was calling because I've heard. pastors preach that uh when Jesus died on the cross, he went to hell. And came back, and then I tried to look for that in the Bible. I couldn't find it anywhere in the Bible. I found an Apostles' Creed that talks about it.

Well, okay, we've got a break, so let me address that after the break.

Okay, we'll get to that.

Okay, buddy? All right. All right, hold on now. Hey folks, be right back after these messages. If you want to give me a call.

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If you want to give me a call, all you got to do is dilate 77. 207-2276. Let's get back to Steve from South Carolina. Steve, are you there? Yep.

Okay. All right, so um The uh okay, let's see where Jesus is going to So the Apostles' Creed, it says this. This is the problem. that uh It's a problem. It says that uh he descended into hell.

Alrighty. How do I say this politely? That moronic Preachers and teachers who don't know history, don't know theology, will read something like this and then say Jesus went to hell, the place where we're supposed to go, and then he finished the atonement there. These heretical false teachers who couldn't argue their way out of a wet paper bag. Are the ones who teach this kind of stupidity.

So, when it says this in the Creed, what was understood is that he went to the place of the dead where they were. That's all. And that's what they called hell in that context. This is a good example of why it's necessary to have. Newer creeds that are modified and address issues more in more contemporary language.

So the false teachers who teach this, like Joyce Meyer. teaches it. And others have taught. And so she said, for example, he became our sacrifice and died on the cross. He did not stay dead.

He was in the grave three days. During that time, he entered hell, where you and I deserve to go legally because of our sin. He paid the price there.

Now, here's a good example of something. That is denying the cross. It's denying the sufficiency of the cross because Jesus finished the atonement at the cross. Colossians 2.14. He canceled the sin that, having nailed it to the cross, Colossians 2.14, he bore our sin in his body on the cross, 1 Peter 2.24.

So she doesn't know what she's talking about. And she's teaching damnable heresy because she's saying it wasn't paid on the cross. It was someplace else. He's denying the cross. This is a good example.

She's a great example of someone not to listen to and not to believe. And the men around her don't have enough spiritual. a testosterone to call her on the carpet and say no. And other men should be doing this too.

Okay, sorry. But yeah. Yeah. I appreciate it. So it doesn't, it just says hell in the apostles proof.

It doesn't. literally mean went to hell. Right. It just means in the context of what it was. It's like the word Catholic meant universal.

So we say the Catholic Church, if we use the old Way it was used, then, of course, we affirm the Catholic Church, the universal church. That's why you hear Roman Catholic Church, because it was a way of designating it more accurately.

So, words change in their meanings over time, or they become less clear, which is why we need more contemporary statements of faith.

Okay, so he went to the place of the dead, and there's theories about what he did, but he didn't go there and suffer in hell, and he didn't go to the place of flames and suffer and pay the atoning cross price there.

Okay, that's heresy.

Okay. Is there anywhere like when you're doing when I'm doing a Bible study and I find passages in Scripture that talk about that, where Jesus descended and doesn't say hell in the Scripture, but um what are there some good commentaries out there that you recommend? Oh, they're good commentaries. I would recommend reformed commentaries over Arminian ones. But one of the things I would recommend you have on yourself.

is uh Wayne Grudem's Systematic Theology. It's just a book basically you should have. It's very well, it's good, it's balanced, okay? Then you can get. Robertson, Archibald Robertson, is a Bible commentary.

uh word pictures in the New Testament. is a decent it's good also And then another one that I use Is where is this one right here? Come on, get this. Oh, here we go right there. Oh, they changed how that is.

Um yeah, it's another one of the same Okay, let me look over here. And I have fairly I have several that I'll use and are just in line. On my computer, and I just go. The Readers, Bible Readers' Companion is another one that I use. Lawrence Richards, and then there's another one.

Oh, the new, let's try the new Bible commentary. is good. Um and that's um like D. A. Carson.

Okay, and some others.

Okay. So there's several. And what I'd recommend, if you're just depends what you want to do, but one of the things you might want to consider. is uh getting A single-volume commentary that does the whole Bible in one book. Usually it's two or three inches thick.

And that's good for an overview. And then, if you want particular books, Of the Bible. Then you go research those and get one on John, one on this, one on that as you need them.

Okay?

Gotcha. Gotcha. Thank you so much, Matt. Appreciate it. Hey, man.

No problem.

Okay. You're welcome. Got anything else? That's it.

Okay. Well good stuff, Ben. All right, God bless. God bless.

Okay. All right, now let's get to Carl from South Carolina. Carl, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt.

Hey, I just wanted to ask a question. you know, with Evolution and creation. On using scientific basis for creation on your approach How are you utilizing that? I'm a Christian and I know science too. And I look at things like the second law of thermodynamics and how it goes against evolution, how it Uh um when we look at the fallen world, how God created a perfect setting and then when we fell that Actually, it goes away from that perfect creation, and you get more randomness and things like that.

In the application of science, in the sense of the second law of thermodynamics, of how It goes against truth and actually science of what says when they put evolution going into the system. What they're going to do is they're going to say that within a system like that, there could be subsystems where energy and information are increased. In subsystems where they can, like photosynthesis, can take energy. And move it to an internal system. And they'll use this principle to say that information formation can also be produced in biological structures.

So that's what they're going to do, okay? And if you want to know how to refute these kinds of things, you need to study probability. Are you familiar with probability issues? Um, not offhand.

Okay, you need to study probability. Because um For example, if you have, here's an example of something, okay? Let's say you have two blocks, two squares, two cubes, an inch in, you know, inch by inch by inch.

Okay, no big deal. And you're just going to move them uh Left and right, how many ways can they be arranged?

Well, just two. 'Cause you have two blocks, so it's two times one. If you have three blocks, it's three times two times one. That's six different ways. You have four blocks.

It's four times three times two times one.

So four times three is twelve times two is twenty four.

So it goes from two to six to twenty four. You have five is twenty four times five. And then you get up to, I think it's 120. And so the thing is that it's called permutability. And the reason this is important is because it gives you an illustration of what permutations are in relationship to probability of biological structures being formed and how information structures are developed.

And so it's called factoring.

So 52 cards in a deck. If you and I were to shuffle them randomly, and we could do it once a second. Could we, in our lifetime, shuffle them once they're randomized? Could we shuffle them to the point where they're in the same order? And your probabilities is basically no it's not going to ever happen.

Now mathematically, maybe. On paper, but experientially is not possible. We don't have enough years or centuries or eons. Because math is very important, and information, you got to define what information is. Information is an arrangement of material.

inside of a system. That conveys from one thing to another thing something that leads to something being accomplished. Work. or structured knowledge or things like this.

Well, how does it relate to mathematics? This is really important. It's one of the ways to deal with the issue of evolution and science, which is a philosophical endeavor, science is. And there's all kinds of stuff. Have you heard of also the Cambrian explosion?

Have you heard about that? I I think I recall it, yes. You just started this Cambrian explosion also. which is around five hundred and thirty million years ago. 530, give or take.

They say anywhere from 5 million years to 40 million years is how long the Cambrian explosion occurs. Why do they call it the Cambrian explosion? Because there are different rock strata in the Cambrian rock strata. when you suddenly enter into the Cambrian period. Within this explosion, within the average 15 million years, you have 40 new body types of organisms that suddenly form.

Evolution can't account for this. It's not enough time. And the reason this is important is have to know mathematics to know there's an article called The Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Theory of Evolution. There's all kinds of stuff. I can get into all kinds of, I study this stuff.

I love this stuff. Don't get it talked about very often. But hold on, buddy.

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Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it's easy, 87720. 72276. Let's get back on with Carl from South Carolina.

Carl, welcome you're on, buddy. Thanks, man. The the other thing is I I just want to say that you you were bringing things up and and you know about the the age of the the uh earth and the the universe, and there was a study out there when they were trying to predict how much m l lunar dust would be on the moon when we landed.

So they're designing these pods for the landing. And so they I think they calculated with the universe being billions and billions of whatnot years old. when they land it and they put the flagstick down There was two. Calculated that it's probably not even a foot deep when they predicted it would be 20 feet deep. And to calculate it, it ended up being well the universe actually with that much lunar dust.

from uh the landing that they probably predicted probably that that it was probably only twenty thousand years old at best. Have you ever heard that? Oh, yes. Yes. That's one of the interesting evidences that's used for young earth.

There's also the rate of dust. that Falls on the earth, which adds mass, which reduces angular momentum, which means that the rotation of the earth is slowing down because the momentum has to be exchanged to include all the mass. And if you go backwards within 250,000 years or something like that, nothing would stay on the earth surface because it's rotating so quickly. There's um the issue of uh which has a half-life of five thousand three hundred and seventy years. And that means that within 90,000 years, 93,000 years precisely, is no carbon should be left in a biological structure.

So, if a squirrel dies and gets buried by mud immediately, And 50,000 years goes by, and someone uncovers that and then does a carbon-14 dating method on it, it should be able to tell you the accuracy. Of how old that squirrel was or how long ago it lived. This is the theory behind carbon-14 dating. And so, but there should be no carbon-14 in any organism that's over 100,000 years old, because the half-life is such that it's gone. It's all gone, it's all decayed.

But they're finding carbon-14 in coal shales millions of years old and in diamonds. which are millions of years old, supposedly.

So there are problems. Then there's the erosion rates of mountains. That's another issue. The salinity problem of the oceans. Yeah, there's a lot of problems.

Okay. Yeah, and I heard a car carbon dating isn't even accurate after two thousand years. Yeah, there's some issues. There's been some tests done where people have taken stuff that's been dead for two weeks and gone in and oh it's been dated 10,000 years old Oh yeah, yeah, but they don't tell you about that kind of stuff. Yeah, and the thing is, you know, we go to school like and you learn about evolution, we just take it for granted, but uh when I became a Christian, really science didn't change it.

There is false science. Absolutely. derived as uh influence from from evil, from the enemy. And it's a yeah, it's a way to deny God. Uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah. But it's interesting because you know we look at and we talking about about life in the sense of Well, life starts at conception. That's basically based right there. No, no, no, no, it doesn't. It doesn't con start at conception, it continues at conception.

Okay. The egg and the sperm are alive. We don't get life from non-life, we get life from life.

Okay, the small but important point, okay?

Okay, I'll definitely think on that one.

So it's just like, you know, people talk about, well, when can we end a you know, talking about uh the viability of a of of a baby and things of that nature. And it's the same with um with people who are um sitting there going through transition to change their sex. And they you look at every cell in their body is either going to be an XX or an XY. Nothing has changed at all. And right there.

we sit there and fall away from science and it is just unbelievable that that This is pushed down in the sense of of that being called science when That's false too.

So that's a lot of evil of that thought process. Yes, but it's also because people are relativists. There's no absolute truth. and they're inconsistent.

So they will say there's no absolute truth. You can be whatever you want to be, whatever gender you want to be. The absolute truth is that I can believe whatever I want. Which is a contradictory system and a contradictory statement.

So it's called relativism or postmodernism. Christianity says that there's an absolute mind, God, who is the author or revealer of all truth. It's absolute.

So therefore, when you move against Christianity and you move towards whatever you want, everyone does what's right in their own eyes, then truth becomes relative. And when you have this kind of a problem, society can't maintain itself. This is important. This is what bothers me about the news. They don't they're putting band aids and they're putting uh you know, cotton swabs on problems.

But not getting to the root of the issue. Why is it, for example, that the The people for Somalia able and willing to lie and steal. from our country. because it's Islamic philosophy to go into a country, take it over. and take the spoils out of that country.

Okay. What do you do with um people who have moral relativism as a foundation?

Well, then you can do whatever you want in any circumstance you want. There's no absolutes.

So you can steal from somebody, you can embezzle, you can misrepresent the truth and things like that. And so what happens is, is these kind of things permeate society. It's the threads of a tapestry that are being snapped, being broken. And the more this does, this occurs, the less clear the image is. And so, after a while, you can't tell what it really is anymore, and it falls apart, and that's what's happening to our society.

And along with that, we need to be, they need to be, the news people people need. To start addressing the goals of the 45 goals of communism introduced into the congressional record in 1963. And they need to understand that our country is under attack. It's a spiritual, emotional, political, social attack. And uh Anyway, it's my commentary that no one's going to listen to me because I'm a guy named Slick.

Who cares?

Well, hey, without a doubt, I mean, Jesus says he is the truth, the way, the life. And I've never found him to be wrong. No matter what we look into the Bible, I just. even with science and whatnot. He answers that too.

And if it's not an answer to it, I don't worry about that in that sense. I have never seen them to be wrong yet. and he never will be. Amen. That's true.

That's right. Amen tap, brother. I appreciate your ministry. God bless.

God bless and thanks a lot, brother. All right. Topa. Goodbye. All right, let's get to Steve from Utah.

Steve, welcome, brother. You're on the air. How are you, Matt? Doing all right, hanging in there. Just doing QA.

Loving it. What do you got, buddy?

So I got a question about Um Well, like King Saul Thank you. He was If he had mental issues. Um Bipolar disorder or whatever that they claim, but is. Is Bipolar and schizophrenia and all that sort of thing, mental illnesses, same as demons. Called in the past?

Could be. There could be demonic forces that are influencing people and imitating certain problems, and there can certainly be legitimate. Physical problems with the physical brain because the physical brain is like an organ that can. It can be mutated. It can have problems with it.

So that's what's going on.

Okay, so yeah. All right. So People that who have like schizophrenia today Yes. It's it's Are are they demon-possessed? I don't know.

They could be, they could not be. This depends. We can't look and say all who have this schizophrenia in every situation are always. Because demon possessed.

Well, we can't say all of them only have. We also likewise can't say all of them only have a physical problem in their brain that needs correction.

So we we just don't know, okay?

So Actually. Person with schizophrenia may or may not be able to have demons. Taken from them. I'm sorry, hit it again. A person that has like schizophrenia may or may not be possessed, but they may be able to have the demons taken from them, correct?

Yeah, that's a good idea. Within the Christian worldview, that's logically possible, yes.

Okay. Okay. Okay, I always kind of wondered that.

So, um No, I think that answers my question.

Okay. So Yeah.

Well, thank you, Matt. I appreciate it. All right, buddy.

Sounds good.

Well, God bless. God bless you.

Okay. So, I don't know if he's listening or not. I'll just put him on mute for a second or two. Alberto, I was talking to you, and you're in the background doing something. Uh let's see and uh Uh okay, here we go.

With that, let's get back on and give them a shot again. Alberto, are you there? Alberto. Yes, sir. How are you doing today?

Yeah, I'm right here.

Okay, what do you got, buddy? Yep.

My question is, you know Jesus said the world hated me and they will hate you.

So, how come the Catholic Pope, who he claims to be the vicar of Christ, how come he's not hated by the world? He's loved by all the world leaders and all the Catholics.

So how come that so is he truly a child of God?

Well Okay. First of all, it's a subjective kind of an observation. We don't know if every world leader loves them or hates them. The Muslims certainly would would denounce the Pope.

So To say that all of them wouldn't be accurate. There are groups that would love and and would hate. Like myself, I I I denounce the the the Catholic popes. I think they're they're of the spirit of the Antichrist.

Okay. A lot of Christians.

So I was watching a video, and Justin Peters put out. And it was Ben Shapiro talking with one of the priests Yeah. And Justin Peter was commenting all the different heretical things that that priest was saying to Ben Shapiro, And he was exposing all the crazy stuff this priest was telling Ben Shapiro about his gifts. Crazy stuff.

So check it out if you want to check it out. Yeah, you just email me the link. Yeah, but I know Justin, he's a great guy, and I could ask him about it. Yeah, I know. He's a good guy and uh he knows his stuff.

He does a lot of great work.

So there you go. Yeah. All right. I don't know, but if you want to check it out and look at it for yourself, you'll check it out if you can. Um Perhaps, yeah, I'm prepping for a debate, but yeah, okay.

So I'm not sure.

Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know. Have you made Geno Jennings yet? He never asked your request yet. Look, a lot's been happening in the past.

A couple, three, four months. My wife passed away. There's a lot of things that I've heard. put on hold. And this debate, I'll be in next month, has been set up for six, eight months.

So I'm committed to that. But uh other stuff Not so much.

Okay?

All right. Okay. Well, God bless you and keep doing the great spirit, sir.

Okay, brother. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay, okay. Bye-bye.

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