Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at carn.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Hi, everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. As usual, if you want to give me a call, it is easy. All you have to do is dial 87720-72276. Got some interesting stuff to talk about.

Some news here in the local area. And encounter with the Mormon last night. Just good stuff. And also.

Well, just going through and checking out the new site, adding stuff, working and things like that, and uh enjoying it. Anyway, so if you want to give me a call, as usual, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. And just to let you know, I should be out of the should. Be out of the uh off the off the air for two weeks starting next week because I'm going to a Bible tour in Jordan. And uh It's pretty sure I'll be going.

But uh depending on my wife's health and things like that, it's always like that.

So, uh There's that. And if you want, also, if you are interested in emailing me for a question, you can do that. Send an email to Info at carm.org, info at carm.org, and we can get to you and stuff like that.

So, there you go. Let's see, let's see. How about this? Let's just get right on with. Alberto from Georgia.

Alberto, welcome. You're on the air. I would like if you could On the baked Gino Janis. You know, but I could like to give a little wise Chip. Um and debating him.

Don't go to his church. Invite him to your church. And Also Don't stand behind the pulpit next to him debating because that's because he actually has a habit of doing that when people go to his church. have it separate You know, we'll use PSP New stand He speaks, then he steps down and you speak. That way he won't look bad.

Yeah, these are all things arranged in a debate, uh arranged ahead of time. But uh I hadn't thought about debating him. I'd be willing to if he'd be willing to. If he's willing to. agree to something like that.

Not sure if he would be.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay, I got a quick question to another one. All right.

Okay.

Yeah, I know about it. Mhm.

Okay.

Okay, do you read it? Yeah, it says conduct yourself with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of your opportunity. Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned as it were with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person.

Okay?

Okay, now What do you think when John the Baptist was exposing Paris? saying that he used grace and salt or the Old Testament prophets like Elijah Yeah.

Well, Paul is Colo talking to the Colossians and he's talking to the general Christians. But John the Baptist wasn't a a prophet, and that's a desig designation is different than just a regular Christian.

So he was able to do things and say things that we were not. But we still can make spiritual judgments, 1 Corinthians 2.15 says.

So we can do that, okay?

Okay, so basically He he was not. to like speak with grace salt consultants. like the New Testament.

Well But you see Okay.

So, Jesus, for example, called people whitewashed sepulchres, their father of the devil, hypocrites, blind guides, see over through the temple tables. And John the Baptist also called people out on their sin, and we're to do that as well.

Now, generally speaking, when I witness with people, generally speaking, I always try and remember Colossians 4, 5, and 6, and 2 Timothy 2:25. which is basically speaking about How to conduct yourself with them and be nice.

Now, 90%, 95% of the time, I'm always very patient. People comment that I'm very patient with people. But sometimes you just got to step up and you got to match them and you got to do that. I do that with Muslims. For example, Muslims will come into a room and I know about their culture, I know about their techniques and attack methods.

And what they want to do is control the conversation by demanding you answer certain questions. And I tell them, I won't play that game. You have to be polite, you got to cooperate and stop interrupting. And then they keep interrupting.

So I interrupt them back. And I continue to tell them, this is what you'll get if you don't behave properly. And so I try and meet them where they're at until finally they calm down and realize that. that that I'm not going to back down.

Now, one of the strategic reasons I do this is I was told that some of the Muslim culture is that the louder and more persistent you are, the more you believe it's true. And so if you don't do that, they look at it as a sign of weakness. It's just a cultural thing and an approach. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because you see it and understand that there are different ways and different times to do different things. And some of them could be strategic.

But generally speaking, we're to conduct ourselves with wisdom.

Sometimes that wisdom means to be strong, and sometimes that wisdom means to be patient.

Okay.

Uh-huh. Yeah, but you know what? The Muslims think that their Islam is their true religion. But you you notice that most of them are very violent in their behavior. You know what I mean?

And the three people would would would like with yeah with their content If you pass by their mosque, they'll start talking bad about you while you're walking across their mosque. I've seen videos like that. Yeah, and west over the west.

So I mean so Well what's be attracted to that? What's the what of that? Yeah.

Who wants to be attracted to that kind of religion? No, people are attracted to Islam for varying reasons. One, they're raised in it and they're deceived. Other ones, another reason that I've heard. I remember I talked to a woman once who had, she was raised here and she converted to Islam.

And I said, why'd you do that? Just curious. I wasn't attacking her. She said, because it tells me how to live my life. And I thought Jesus does too.

But he does it at a deeper level. And she didn't want to hear anything about it. She wanted structure.

Now, that's one thing.

Some people believe that Muhammad was a great guy, even though he was a warlord and. Uh very uh Very bad. I'll just leave that generically.

So people are attracted to varying reasons because they're depths of sin. Um is different.

Okay.

Yeah, I saw a video on um James Cardij is bearing Egypt. And he bought it. You saw you saw the video about the top top elite Islamic scholars. And he talked about Muhammad basically I mean he was like never These total figures are all of them. Yeah, there's basically There's growing um There's growing evidence, let's just say.

are growing information. That Muhammad may never have existed because the evidence that supports his existence written form is like two to three hundred years after the fact. There's nothing that they're finding That is uh from that time. We have documents of the New Testament older Then uh than the time of Mohammed. And the Muslims, they knew how to write, they knew how to store information.

And yet the the um The evidence for his existence is very spurious. And I've been presenting it. It's one of the things I need to study to be able to break it down into 10 basic bullet points, kind of a thing. But I've seen two presentations on it. one in person and one online.

And wow, very interesting.

Okay.

Yeah.

I said Dr. Jay Smith talked about it. you know Even experts in uh Islam. Yeah, I saw him at a conference I was at a couple years ago, was it last year in Anaheim, California. And it was the first time I'd heard of this, and it was just fascinating.

And then I've I watched him in another video actually, now that I remember it, and presented the information again. But the problem is it's a fire hose of information. And it needs to be broken down into bite-sized chunks for the average person to be able to understand and repeat. And that's one of the things I want to do.

So I have a way to get a hold of him to be able to run some ideas by him. And maybe I'll do that in a while.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you. Have a nice day. Super great work.

Alright, thanks. God bless.

Alright, let's get the cliff from Florida. Cliff, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, my brother man, how you doing? Doing all right, man.

Hanging in there. Hanging in there. What do you got, buddy? Um I sort of hesitate to ask you this question just because I know it's a a rough one. Um But Um A friend of mine, he's officiating a memorial service.

He's a pastor. He's officiating a memorial service for a seventh month old that passed. And he wants he asked me from my perspective on why good would why God would allow this to happen. And I immediately thought of you 'cause you know your situation.

So I thought It'd be better just call you and then have you respond and then I'll just I'll send him this clip or I'll send him the the sh Yeah. Yeah, it's just It's okay. The Lord uses all kinds of things to teach. And many people don't know, and I guess you do, that my wife and I had a son, and he was born and passed away in our arms shortly after birth. And You know, it's just, I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

Why does God allow what appears to be innocent babies to suffer, to pass away? And the answer is He doesn't tell us. Yeah.

God does not give us a reason why He allows these things. He doesn't specifically tell us. But biblically speaking, we know that sin has its effect in the world.

Someone once told me, or I heard, I don't remember which, that sin is like a grenade. You throw it into a crowd of people, and um That person's killed, that other person's wounded, the other person isn't touched. Why? Because that's what happens sometimes. And we have to realize that God permits these things to occur, probably because of the effect of sin in the world.

Not that mom and dad were great sinners and caused this, but that the effect of sin appears to be random. It's not, but it appears to be because we don't know all things, all places, all times. And the effects of it are like that. And so we have a seven-month-old that passes away, or an hour-old baby that passes away, or we have like a well-I know a couple who lost a child. Um who was uh late teens.

I think it was late teens or twenties. And why? don't know. You know, I think of my wife's health. She's born with one of the rarest connective tiss uh tissue disorders in the entire planet.

And she's suffering constantly. Um Ooh and Why? God doesn't tell us. But we do know that as Christians that though death is a rude visitor, We know that it comes into our lives and crashes and breaks things and leaves mayhem and pain and suffering, and we're left to deal with the consequences. and the only way to truly deal with them as Christians.

is to look up to the Lord. And just say, Lord, I don't understand why. But as Jesus said in the garden, nevertheless. Not my will be done, but your will be done. Jesus didn't want to go through the cross.

He didn't want to go through the trial, the tribulation, the turmoil. and yet he submitted to the will of the Father. We know that all things work together for the good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose. We know that God works everything after the counsel of His will. There's a fusion status.

And so we have to have that faith that God is allowing it for a reason. which he doesn't disclose, and that our judgment needs to be to trust him and his heart. and not our own. and look at answers. when we meet him in person.

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It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show. Let's get on the air here with Kathy from Salt Lake City. Kathy, welcome.

You're on the air. Oh, thank you. I just was listening to your last comment that we don't know why things happen. And I was listening to John Piper And he just That so encouraged me. He just said, nothing that we go through is meaningless.

It is has be deep meaning that we don't understand but that it can accomplish an eternal weight of glory. And I've just been through one thing after another. And at first, I would get mad at God. And want him to heal me or take me home. And of course, you don't give an ultimatum to God.

Right. I've got the gift of mercy and encouragement. And He just I believe it is showing me that this way I can really understand pain and suffering. in all different aspects of what people are going through. And so I'm not angry anymore.

I guess. Thanking Jesus and asking him what I can learn from it, and to bless and help other people. uh through my suffering. That's that's true. The The issue of our suffering and our pain makes us more empathetic towards others.

And so we can be ministering to them better. It's one of the things that is just simply true. We may not enjoy going through it, but it is true. And so We need to walk through these things by faith. I remember when my wife and I lost our son Jacob.

That during that period of about a week to two weeks of arranging things, funerals, all that stuff. The presence of God was so profound, and it really was. My wife and I had a very unusual peace. We wept, but we had this great peace. At the same time, and we remember, I remember she and I talking about how we look back at the time.

And it's only the people who understand this By experience, he can know what I'm saying. is that it was a Comforting time as well. with God's presence. And so God does that inside of Of pain, which teaches us about God's compassion, His empathy towards us, which helps us. And then He lets us go through other things like that.

And and you're right. It teaches us. And then we'll be able to better minister to others and not be angry, but to be trusting. Yep, that's right. Yes.

Yeah.

Well, thank you. I appreciate it. God bless.

Well, God bless you. Thank you. Really appreciate it.

Alright, bye. All right.

Well, we have nobody waiting right now. And if you want to give me a call, it is easy. All you have to do is dial 87720722. Seven, six. All right, so something really interesting happened.

I was in a chat room last night. And a uh We had two Mormons come in. One Mormon, the first one, was mature. And he and I disagreed, but we had a polite conversation going back and forth. It really was a good conversation.

I hopeful enlightening conversation. And he was not rude, or he was not interruptive. And we had a nice He said, nice talk. And we made points, and you know, that's how it went. And the people in the room appreciated it.

Then And there was another Mormon, who came on and I can honestly tell you that this guy was Very arrogant. very stubborn. Foolish in a lot of ways, demanding, interruptive. And it just went on and on. I tried to be patient with them.

It was very difficult to work with them.

Now, that doesn't represent all Mormons, but I'm just saying that this particular one was bad. And I think his nickname was Missionary Discussions, or something like that. And he came on with a A challenging condescending attitude. And we were d discussing The issue of uh Proving It's not I mean, excuse me, proving Mormonism is false. Which I said I can prove.

I can prove it is false. I can prove it. And I can. Uh And I'll show you how, and it's proof that Mormonism is false. It's proof, absolute proof.

But proof is different than persuasion. Just because I can prove it doesn't mean people will be persuaded.

So, when people say, you didn't prove it, yes, I did. You just refused to accept the truth. That's all.

Now, the people say, well, that's arrogant.

Well, is it? You see, What it says, I'm going to read out of the King James Bible and talk to you for here a few minutes before the next break until we get to Jermaine. Um The proof that um Mormonism is false. It's found in the King James. When you go to, and I'm going to read this.

Starting at verse 13 of chapter 6, of 1 Timothy. 1 Timothy 6:13. I'm going to read through this slowly. I'm going to go in the King James. And I'm going to show you.

that Joseph Smith Flat out lied. about his first vision. lied. No, I have to say it that way. Because he contradicted God's word.

Clearly. It's either the Bible's mistaken Or Joseph Smith was mistaken. Here's what it says I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who, before Pontius Pilate, witnessed a good confession. that thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which in his time he shall show. Who is the blessed and only potentate, the king of kings?

And Lord of Lords, who alone hath immortality, dwelling in the light, which no man can approach unto, whom no man hath seen. nor can see Okay. To whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen.

So The King James here, I prefer the NESB, but they use the King James. says that it's the father who dwells in unapproachable light. that you cannot approach onto and you can't see.

So The second Mormon, when he got up, uh the very obstreperous, demanding, rude um Mormon. He says, why don't you read it mad like that? Really bad, okay. And he was angry. Because Well, he thought he had an answer.

And when I went through this, I'm going to go through this a little bit because it's interesting. He says, I give thee charge in the sight of God. He goes, Who is that? Does it say father? Does it matter?

Does it?

So I'm not going to repeat his attitude, but that's what his challenge was.

So I said, Well, and then. tried to answer and what happened was we eventually had to boot him because he wouldn't let me finish. He constantly would interrupt. He was just really really bad.

So Here's the information. We know from 1 Timothy 2. one verse two. That it says um Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith, grace, mercy, and peace from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

So we know that God is in reference. That to the father And Jesus our Lord.

So when he's continuing to write, and he does so in 1 Timothy 6:16, then Paul is, in verse 13, excuse me, he's saying, he gives you charge in the sight of God. That has to be the Father. And he goes on, and this guy, this Mormon, was saying. That the one who dwells in unapproachable light was Jesus.

Now, I'm going to respond to that after the break. And show you what the answer is and comment on it, and we'll get to Jermaine and then Glenn. We'll be right back, folks, after these messages. Please. Stay tuned.

It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All Rodwyn, welcome back to the show. Let me finish up with what I was talking about before the break, and then we'll get to the callers. And it was an interesting discussion I had last night with a Mormon who then said that the one who could not be seen was.

Jesus. because Jesus dwells in light that you cannot see. And I said to him, If that's the case, then why does it say in Acts seven fifty five through sixty that Stephen saw the glory of God? and Jesus standing at his right hand. This is after the ascension into heaven.

So The objections that this guy Raised or the excuses that he gave did not fit scripture. It was unfortunate that his rudeness was so profound. that he could not stand me even talking. without uh him just rudely interrupting, which he did repeatedly. But Ladies and gentlemen.

Joseph Smith never saw God the Father. Because the Bible says you can't. first Timothy six, sixteen and seventeen.

So you can't. It's not possible. And so Joseph Smith did not tell the truth. He did not tell the truth and about the first vision. Therefore Mormonism is false.

Let's get to Jermaine from California. Jermaine, welcome here. I'm the gayer. No, I'm at I um I meant to tell you, I really enjoy the new website. It's going to be quite a blessing to a lot of folks.

It is. I'm s I still tell the guy who designed it. How fast it is and how good it is. In fact, I'll do it right now and other just say Uh on radio Another Guy, I I can put doofist there, but I won't put doofist in this one. Yeah.

said the site is good. It's in this site. Is really fast. There you go. For those who don't know, I know Jamal, everybody.

That's why I cheese in them. Yeah, it's fast. It's great. It's simple. Very effective.

Oh, we love it. All right, so Yeah, that's good. Yeah, no, I love it. I can't wait to uh really jump into it. But That's for my question.

Are you I just feel I love animals and I believe God. has used some domesticated animals is a great blessing for a lot of people. The issue I have is I have family members and friends. I like I love animals, but I don't understand Is it is it idolizing the animal if you have like A pet view. No, I don't think any problem with that at all.

We had a uh cat a few years ago that uh we we had him put down, and he was just a wonderful cat. Oh, he was just he would talk to you and and just lay in your lap. It was just a part of the family. And A little, you know, a funeral isn't idolizing uh an animal. It's just appreciating the blessing That God is provided through the animals and and and stuff like that.

And it's okay, no problem at all. All right.

Okay.

So would it be too far to go and have like a prayer service?

Well, I don't know. Uh if you're praying to the pet, that would be bad. Uh Well, it just depends. You know, you could have young young'uns whose hearts are broken, and you could have a a time of prayer where you thank the Lord for how good the pet was, and things like that. I don't see a problem with that.

As long as the object is Christ, And appreciation of what he's provided through that pet, then you don't have any problems.

Okay.

Yeah, I like that answer. I think I'll I'll share that with my family then. Yeah.

Yeah, and I get it. I remember once, uh Well, let's put it this way. I've cried more than once. losing a pet. And that's just how it is.

And I have a good friend. He's a is a macho kind of guy and he told me Yeah. He had to put one of his dogs down. And uh he looks at me and I understood. It was tough and he goes, Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, he says he broke. I said, Yeah. That's all right.

So we care about them. They're fun. And usually, unless like last night when my uh My mane coon, my 22-pound mane coon, is on our table, our table in the living room. My wife and I are watching TV, and he goes, Hey, is that a cup? and then he just reaches his paw and knocks it over.

Uh But you know. But most parts are great.

So, yeah, that does that help?

Okay.

Yeah, actually it did. Um 'Cause it's just I d I've I wasn't quite sure how to approach that. Certain family members were not believers. I felt a little funny about having a prayer service for for like dogs and cats, but At the same time, I don't see anything wrong with thanking guy for for a believer's point of view, like just for what he provided if uh the animal provided comfort and yeah. a kind of friendship, then so be it.

That's right. Animals can be profound helps. To help to a lot of people. You know, they have the animals that go into hospitals and comfort people. They are just wonderful.

And they can be. Great. signs of comfort. And so, as long as you're not having a prayer service for an animal that's already passed away, that the animal would be good wherever it's at. They stop existing.

There's no issue of continuance for them. I know it's depressing for a lot of people, but once they're gone, they're gone because the Bible doesn't talk about. ever about an animal continuing on in an afterlife. Only people do that. But I will say this, I used to have a cat named Punch Face.

punch face because he was half Flat-faced cats and half traveling salesman, we called him, and he's the most beautiful cat you'd ever seen. most beautiful cat. We play tag and fetch Ambush He would talk to me. It was great. And when he passed away, man, I broke down.

Uh And, you know, you can have a lot of comfort, a lot of fun with animals. I used to bring my dates home to meet him. They thought I was crazy until they met him and they went, he's awesome.

So I totally get it. Totally get it. All right.

Anyway. We can reminisce about our cats and our dogs and our parrots and And uh You can't deal with a fish too much, though, can you? Let's get on with Glenn from Virginia. Glenn, welcome. You're on the air.

Yes, can you hear me? Yes, I can. What do you got? Yeah, some I have a question that, you know, did Jesus ever declare? himself to be God and And Great.

And what does Yeah. A B So Yeah, six. It is. So do with that.

Well, no, he quoted Psalm 82, 6 in John 10, 33, 34. As a rebuke against the Pharisees, because the Sadducees, because they were. They were unrighteous judges because Psalm 82 is an imprecatory psalm. It's a psalm of condemnation. That's an imprecation.

So it's called an imprecatory psalm. There's many imprecatory psalms where God basically, where the psalmist basically says, God, get them. Destroy him, punish him, wipe him out. There's a lot of psalms like that.

So that's an impregnator psalm, and it has nothing to do with actually being gods or anything. It's just a statement of hyperbole that the judges, the unrighteous judges of Israel at the time, had the power of life and death, hence they were like God. And then he says in verse 82, verse 7, the next verse, he says, Nevertheless, you all die like men.

So it's a condemning thing. And yes, Jesus did claim to be God. He used the divine name.

So in Exodus 3, 4. 14 and 15. Uh Moses was talking to to God and said, What's your name? And he says, I am that I am. Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I am has sent me to you.

When the Jews translated that into Greek, in what's called the Septuagint, that's the Greek translation. Translation of the Hebrew Bible. The Jews themselves did this about two hundred fifty BC. They translated that Hebrew, I am that I am, into ego emi haon. I am the being, or I am the being one.

It depends how you want to go.

So So basically, it says it says that.

Now, when Jesus, in John 8, 56, he says, Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it and was glad. And the Jews said, You're not yet 56 years old. You've seen You've seen Abraham? And he says, before Abraham was, I am. And they pick up stone to throw it, and they want to kill him right there on the spot.

And the reason we know that this is them understanding this, there's a couple things. Yeah.

in the Jewish culture at that time, they were under the The rule of the Romans, and the Romans had removed from them the right of execution.

So, this is why the Jews had to get Jesus to be arrested. and tried by the Roman or by by the Jews, and then executed by the Romans. And so, because they couldn't have the power of execution, generally speaking, on their own.

So, when they were picking up stones to throw at him, they were risking. Lord, life, and limb.

Now that's John 8:58. Before Abraham was, I am. The next mention of stoning is in John 10:30. And I can get to it after the break. And I'll continue with this.

I'll explain what's going on, and then we'll get back to you.

Okay, so hold on, okay, brother. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Glenn. And, Glenn, are you still there? Yeah, some steel here. All right, so let me finish this up.

We'll get back on here with you.

So the next mentioning in the Gospel of John, in John 8:59, they pick up some to throw at him, but he hid himself. And this was after he said, Before Abraham was, I am. They want to kill him right there.

So the next mentioning of stoning isn't until after John 10:30, when Jesus says, I and the Father are one. The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works of the Father I've shown you. For which of them are you stoning me? The Jews answered, For a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy, and because you being a man, Make yourself out to be God.

Jesus answered, Is it not written in your law? I said ye are gods. And that's when he quotes Psalm 82:6. He's. Um doing several things at once there.

So what I'll I'll do with people is show them these things. and so that the Jews understood he's claiming to be God. They understood that, because if Jesus was using that title for himself before Abraham was I am. All right.

All right.

Thank you for that. I appreciate that. Sure. No problem at all. All right, anything else?

Oh.

So it's Yep. W if he's the father. I mean, if he's got he's the father. And he's got the son as well. No, no, no, no, no.

Jesus is not God the Father. He's only the son. He speaks two He speaks to the Father, He speaks about the Holy Spirit. There's three persons in the Godhead. and the idea that Jesus is the Father is a false teaching.

Okay.

Okay.

But he was the son, but and and and declared to be God. Yes, he declared to be God. And there's that verse, there's John 5:18, where it says he was calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. He received worship. Matthew 2, 2, 2, 11, 14, 33, 28, 9, John 9, 35 through 38.

So, yeah, he claimed to be the Son of God. And people will say to me, the Son of God means he's not God. And I say, then, what does this term Son of Man mean? He's not man. And so You know, I've debated this thousands of times.

And um I know the topic well. And Jesus is God in flesh. Not only did he claim himself that, but others did too. Paul did, for example, in Titus 2:13, the great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Sharp Granville rule. There are some exceptions of that, but that's what is going on there.

We have Hebrews 1. 1.8, where it says, But of the Son, he, that's the Father speaking, but of the Son, he says, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever.

So there's lots of places. John 1:1 and verse 14. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

So, yeah, he's definitely God in flesh. And he still is.

Okay.

He's God and flesh, but he's not the Father. He's not God the Father. I'd recommend. that you go to my website, carm.org. C-A-R-M dot O-R-G, and look up, you know, just let's see what will happen if we type this in.

I'll do it right now just to just to get a reference here.

Okay, let's see. And type in is Jesus the Father and Yeah, and then the article comes up: Is Jesus the same person of the Father? And then you can click on it and you can read it. It's a short article. Maybe a hundred and fifty words.

Right. And uh goes through.

Okay.

All right.

Alright. All right, President. God bless.

Okay.

All right, now next longest waiting is Chris from North Carolina. Chris, welcome. You're out of here. Or shaking bacon. Matt, how you doing?

Yeah.

I'm doing all right, man. Hanging in there, hanging in there. What do you got, buddy? Um Well, since the last time that we talked, I was in a terrible car wreck that was life altering. And, um Okay.

It was the best day of my life as far as my relationship with Jesus Christ goes, Host. Um But my question is What? Which Bible version do you recommend? I thought one time I heard you say on the radio the NASB, the 95 edition, Yeah. Yeah, that's the one that I habitually use.

Now when people ask me what's the best Bible to use for study, Uh it's like saying Um what's the best tool for what you want to accomplish? Because one tool is not the same thing for everything. Yeah.

So I use the NESB 95 because I've used it for so long. But it also Is excellent in that it tries to be as close to the original language as possible. Without interpolation or smoothing things out very much. But it still makes it so you can read it and understand it.

So it has a more wooden feel to it and a more literal wooden feel.

So I study that. And because of it, I've studied and I've discovered doctrines I would not have discovered probably in the NIV, for example. But the NIV is a uh is a good translation and it's very smoothed out. And then the ESV is kind of between the NIV and the NESB95. And so there's many Bibles, you know, the L E B and I think Which one is it that uh Laura, which one is it you like the mount most?

I forgot which one that is. And she'll notice, she'll tell me here in a sec. Um And so there's different LSB, that's right, the Legacy Standard Bible, which is like the NESB 95. It's just a very slight differentiation here and there. And so, but he used the word Yahweh.

Okay.

Or it's a Jehovah or Yahweh in there where the NASB 95 just uses the word Lord, which I would prefer Yahweh instead of Lord. But anyway, so. It just depends what you want to accomplish. Do you want a generic study? Very light.

NIV. You want to get heavy and really into it, NASB 95 or the LSB. You want to kind of have a balance in between them, the ESV. You want to get archaic and have to learn new vocabulary styles? If thou ist willeth, goeth, then the King James.

Okay?

Yeah, that's what I grew up with: the King James version. And I've just recently. Um, picked up the New King James version along with the um New Living Translation Um And The Bible last Wednesday, our church has a senior service on Wednesday mornings. And when I left, I went to the local bookstore Um To pick up a NASB 95, and the only one that they had was the revised and updated. New American Standard Thompson Chain Reference Bible.

Oh wow. That's oil and water. Um This time. Uh oh, uh oh, found too many. The Thompson Shadow Reference Bible.

It has a good stuff in it, though. I've got one packed away. But.

Okay, here's what I recommend. If you really want to do something, you really want to do some serious studying, just pick three Bibles and get. Get them with notes in them and explanatory this's and that's from different perspectives.

So you can get the Geneva Bible, which is Reformed. It has Reformed commentaries. You can get the Thompson Chain Reference Bible, which has a lot of good stuff in it, but it's more dispensational.

So you can get different Bibles that have different things in them. You can get the Spiras Zodiates Bible, which is the King James, but it has Greek and Hebrew analysis structures through it. There's all kinds of Bibles that have all kinds of tools in them. You get the chronological Bible. which takes the the the Bible and puts it in chronological order.

So, if you're reading through Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, you won't read Matthew then Mark. You read Matthew, then Mark, and then back to John, and then into Matthew again as it's chronologically being laid out. And so there's a lot of different study Bibles out there.

Okay, lots. But as far as the Thompson one that I have. Can you give me your pros and cons?

Well, it's just generally good, but it's kind of dispensational in its uh Commentaries. And dispensationalism is different than covenantalism.

So I'm a covenantalist, not a dispensationalist. I have a friend who's a dispensationalist, but not a covenantalist. And, you know, it's like pre-trib or post-trib rapture.

So dispensationalism says that God works in different modes in different periods of time. And those are dispensations, and they're generally broken up into seven types of history. Ways of God working in different areas of history, different breakup periods of time. And they have different labels for them: the time of grace in the garden, and then the time of law for Moses, and then, you know. And so that's dispensationalism, and they interpret everything in those dispensations.

Covenantalism is a covenant, it is a pact or an agreement between two or more parties. And so Covenant theology is working from God's word, as in Him speaking it, as the Old and New Testament are covenant documents. Because the word Lat in Latin for covenant is testamentum, Old Testament, New Testament. Old covenant, new covenant. The Ten Commandments are a covenant document.

of two tablets ten and ten. And God makes covenants. He makes covenants with Israel, covenants with Abraham, covenants with people. And so God works covenantally. And uh that's why I'm a covenant theologian.

So It's okay to have a book that has commentaries in it that is dispensational if you're a covenantalist, and vice versa. because we need to be exposed to different ideas. And then we need to be convinced in our own mind, as Romans 14:5 says, when we're looking at God's word.

Okay?

Yeah, yeah. And look, just a side note: the caller before the last one you were talking with about pets in heaven. Yeah.

Pastors tell me.

Well, you're not going to have your pet in heaven. But I look at it like this. Um the Bible says that God said, we can't imagine the things that's in store for us. Um And uh You know, I feel like If we were to ask him Can we have a particular pet that we were fond of? In heaven That he would grant that, that would be a small thing, and that pet would have a perfect nature as well.

I mean Well, um I don't know. I I can't tell you. I mean, you know, what if my I mentioned earlier my pet Punch Face. Uh was um was resurrected, so to speak.

Well, now what? Do I take care of him? Do does he always hang around with me? What happens when I want to If I can just by thought go someplace. What about him?

Got to pick him up and hold him? You know, The love for a pet is great, but in the presence of the infinite love of God, that will compare. it'll just fade into nothingness.

So people often think that pets, they want pets in heaven because they're thinking of in human level terms. But it's going to be far greater than that when we get to heaven.

Okay?

Yeah.

Yeah, because I was thinking, man. You know, it'll be just like us. We can eat if we want to, we don't have to. And You know. You don't have to pick up that from in heaven.

Because they won't need to eat either. That's right. All right, Matt. Thank you. Thank you, sir, man.

You have a good one, House.

Okay, God bless. All right, Steve from Utah.

Sorry about not getting to you in time. We're just out of time now. I would like to talk about what you want to talk about: Jesus' words on the cross. If you want, call back tomorrow. And may the Lord bless you all.

And by his grace, we'll be back on here tomorrow. And Lord Monday, we'll talk to you then.

So have a great evening, everyone. God bless.

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