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October 27, 2025 8:00 am

Matt Slick discusses various topics including Bible contradictions, atheism, and the nature of the Holy Spirit. He also answers listener questions on faith and works, the Trinity, and the use of polygraph lie detectors in churches. Additionally, he announces a Bible tour to Jordan and discusses the challenges faced by the CARM ministry.

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and... Here, listen to Matchlick Live as usual. If you want to give me a call, it's easy.

The number is 8772-072276. And uh So there you go. All right.

Now, if you want to email me, you can do the same thing. Just direct an email to info at carm.org. Info at CARM.org. Put the subject line, radio comment, or radio question, and we can get to you. All right, now, so.

Saturday was the 30-year anniversary of the CARM website. I started it October 25th, 1995, and we had the release of the site on Saturday. And you guys can go check it out now. It is Very fast. It is very secure.

And it has stuff in it that You won't even become aware of how secure it is and how it doesn't intrude on your computer and how it doesn't. uh you know, extract information from you. Is very good. We're going to be expanding it over the next year in varying areas and options. We want other ministries to become involved with us and the new technology that we're using, which makes things very secure.

And very very very difficult to hack. we are in a completely new system. and it is uh housed inside of um Cloud flare. Which is a multi-billion dollar organization work, and they provide a lot of Super sophisticated, highly detailed, very secure software, and we have built the new Carm site on it. And it's not on uh WordPress, it's not straight HTML, it's the way it has HTML and CSS, but it's really Secure site.

But anyway, you can go check it out. And I am kind of curious to see the feedback anyone might might have on it. If you want to call up and say you don't really like it or don't like it or where's this or where's that? And there is a feedback button in the upper uh area on the uh little menu. Uh That that's their Feedback.

So you can put in whatever feedback you want, you like, you don't like, a broken this or broken that. Because whenever you move a site from one platform to another, there's always issues. It's just how it is. And we've already found a few and minor stuff. And I'm working on one now to fix some mine or something.

And just not a big deal, but it's 99.9% great. And those of us who work behind the scenes with it are finding a little this and that. It's not the programmer's fault, it's just a nature of moving things over: duplicate files, incomplete files, just stuff. And they're surfacing, and just a very few of them. It's really good.

We have the menu still, but you have to find it. It's in the upper area. It just says menu. You click it, you can go down and you can see the articles and the second level pages we call them, and everything's still there. But the main focus is the use of the search engine, which is so fast.

I keep saying it because it is and Before, with the old Carm site, it was a different search. There were two problems we had. One, if we really wanted to use a good search engine, Google had a way of doing that, it could go in and map the entire site, but it would produce ads, paid ads, and we didn't want any of that stuff. It would produce ads from other ministries. And a lot of them are bad.

Ministries, and that's why we didn't want that. And so we couldn't do that, so we had to go with a third-party search engine, and it just wasn't that good.

So This is the best of both worlds. And man. Oh, it's good. It's uh vectorized. It's I've got all kinds of of of bells and whistles to it.

There's a lot of good features on it. I'd like to hear from you. See what you think. Anyway. Let's get to Elijah from Pennsylvania.

Elijah. Welcome You are on the air. Hey, Matt. Um, there there's this New atheist that I found on YouTube. He.

He has shown his face on the line Uh Show that I told you about last week, and I found a YouTube channel, and one of his Recent live streams. He had a discussion with a female Christian and He brought up several alleged contradictions in the Bible. And before I get to my question, I want you to notice that he said that. He is willing to have anybody to come on his show From the regular Christian all the way up to. pastor or bishop or even the pope himself.

So If you wanna If you want to ever call, Colin, and you know, have a discussion to him. Very respectful. He didn't he didn't disrespect a woman at all. He just has one role that you don't You don't talk over him and he won't talk over you.

Well that's nice. Why don't you send me if you would, send me those contradictions? that he says. If you could send them to info at corner.org, you can find them. because then I can uh research them and if they don't have an answer already can write answers.

Okay. Earlier today, a few hours ago, I did send you the video to your to your email. But um I did I did I did Huh? I saw it, yeah. I watched about three minutes of it, and because I got so many things going, because I'm going to Europe next.

Going to Jordan next week.

So there's a lot of stuff going on, but I'm trying to schedule in, still doing things and writing stuff. But, um,. Yeah, his initial question uh motivated me to start writing an article. And on the necessity of the Christian faith. But at any rate, I am interested in and I didn't watch the whole whole thing, but if you could just extract out of it the alleged contradictions, I would like to have those.

Yes, I did write a few down here on my notes on my phone to ask you.

So I guess I'll start with This one. He bro he said that Mark misquoted uh the prophecy In Mark One, two.

So in Mark 1, 2. that that prophecy is found Uh So Mark says that he's quoting the prophet Isaiah, but in Mark 1, 2. That prophecy is from Malachi, I think, Malachi 3:1, then in verse 3 is where he actually quotes Isaiah from, I think, Isaiah. Right. three and so and so his His uh objection is that uh the author of Mark uh was confused and didn't realize that uh verse To that prophecy isn't found in Isaiah, it's found in Malachi, and he says that's an error on that author's part.

It's an error if the understanding is that it had to be specific to a a Book. A lot of times, what the Jews would do is use a major prophet as representing all the other prophets, just to speak quickly. And that's that's what that probably is the case there.

Okay. Okay. Um Let's see, what's the next one?

Okay, so he says in Deuteronomy 22, 20 through 21, he says that Um He said that it says that women Should be stoned to death if they do not bleed on their first time having. sex with their husbands because, um, uh, he says that uh The idea that If a woman bleeds the first time they have sex, then that means they lost their virginity. And uh he says that Um this is wrong because It's known that about fifty percent of women. Don't bleed. on the first time that they have sex and he said that even back then that The ancient Jewish rabbis, early Greeks, and the early Romans, even they knew about it, and he said that we have.

documentation that even women that didn't bleed on their first time.

So we said a lot of the women that have that have gotten sewn under Old Testament law would have been innocent Yes, yes, yeah. if that was the case, because they don't always bleed on their first Oh, it's exact. Yeah, that one I had to research. Because I'm looking at the text, Zeuter number 22, 20 through 22, but if this is the charge is true and the girl has not found a virgin. Uh if she's found that she's not a virgin.

Let's see, look at what's coming before.

Okay, then they shall bring her to the doorway, the father and city, and stone her to death because she committed an act of folly. Playing the harlot, okay. And uh I don't see anything about the issue of bleeding there.

So I'm curious about that. Uh why that's the one. I guess what he's trying to say that the thing about the bleeding, I guess, is the only real way that you can you can know for sure if a if a woman is a virgin. That's not true. Um That's not true.

You you were like you said, sometimes it just doesn't happen that way. And um And so they I'm sure they had other ways that they could find out if it was known that she was uh messing around. That's what it says. If the charge is true that the girl is found, uh not found a virgin, that means she's fooling around. And so, what does it mean that the charge is true?

And how is it that she's found?

So, in a case like that, it would require just studying it to see what really was going on and if the idea of a contradiction is there or not.

Sometimes what people will do, the atheists will do, is they'll say, well, it's just morally wrong to do that. And I love it when they say that because I say, and who are you to say that it's right or wrong morally? You have no standard. You can't judge another culture by your own. That's called ethnocentricity, and you don't have a universal standard of morality by which you can say it's right or wrong.

The best that an atheist can do is try and show internal contradictions in the Bible. And I've never found I've only found one one issue of the Bible I've not been able to solve. Just one, I forgot what it was. Had to do with a time frame with a fig tree and something. That was years ago.

But now I might be able to solve it. But So that's it. Uh I don't see anything in that text. That's that requires that, uh the issue of of uh blood and uh Stuff like that.

So, what's the next one? Um The next one, I didn't write it down, but I do remember off the top of my head. Um He had brought up, I think, Jeremiah 31, and then he went to, I think it was Matthew 2:17. 217 to 219, if I remember correctly. And he was saying that Matthew is trying to say that.

This was a I think a prophecy or connection to Jesus. And he said it actually wasn't, and he said that Matthew was wrong because. The thing in Jeremiah 31, I think the chapter was, where it wasn't actually talking about Jesus, it was talking about Jesus.

something completely different. Um, I don't I don't remember rem remember the exact verse. I would have to find a time stamp, but uh I might a voice was heard in Rama weeping, great mourning, Rachel weeping with her children, and she refused to be comforted because they were no more. And this is uh that they went to Egypt.

So, um or or the killing of the of the unborn. Reading and talking at the same time.

So Herod is when Herod killed them, and he's saying that that's not about.

Okay, so yeah, Jeremiah 31:15 is what he's referring to. And one of the principles that people misunderstand, this is supposed to be, from the Christian perspective, the Holy Spirit demonstrating this. He doesn't have a right to say that's not what it's about. The Holy Spirit has the right to say this is what it's about. And so, this is an internal critique.

So, if he wants to say that it's not true, he doesn't have a ground from an internal perspective. He has nothing to stand on. Absolutely nothing. If he wants to go to an external critique, it's a whole different categorization problem that he's got.

So the criticism isn't good.

So Jeremiah 31:15 is quoted by Matthew and Matthew 2, 17 and 19. And the context of Jeremiah, apparently, is a different context, not about what it's used for.

Well, that's irrelevant to what he wants to imply and assert, because internal consistency means the Holy Spirit did apply it that way, and that's how we understand it. He could say he doesn't agree, but it doesn't mean anything. It's a useless argument. They're going to break, so hold on, buddy. If you've got another one.

I want to hear it after the break, okay?

So hold on. Hey folks, if you want to give me a call, the number is 8772. Zero seven. Two, two, seven, six. Be right back.

It's Matt Slick Live, taking your call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Alright. Welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Elijah from Pennsylvania.

Welcome. Just back on, buddy. You got some more? Um I remember I think I remember one more. Um He has What did he say?

He had said that uh Jesus He called Jesus a liar and a fraud, and he claimed that Jesus didn't fulfill. Uh any Prophecy, but he didn't go into like great detail about why he thinks that.

So I would have to I guess find a video of him going into detail about that, or like I guess if you were to ever talk to him, you could talk. for him about that but um Yeah, um I can't remember. What was the other thing he said? He said something. Oh, um, he he said that he said that, um He he doesn't believe that The resurrection happened because there's no sufficient evidence.

And he said that he believes, like, the one person. one of the apostles that claims that he saw Jesus from the dead. He said that uh imposter claiming to be Jesus had been the the He went back and told the apostles, and the apostles. Believed it because they, I guess, wanted wanted to feel better. about him being back, then still being dead, something like that.

Yeah, that's a dumb one. I mean, sorry about that's not very good. It's just not a very good. Uh it it doesn't account for all kinds of of issues. Uh Um yeah, it it's not a very good argument.

Okay. So tell you what, we'll go through that and see if you can find out what contradictions they claim. A lot of times, what their claims are are just subjective opinions. I love to discuss morality with them, but I'm developing an article on the necessity.

Well, let me put it this way. Why the Christian Worldview is the right one. And I'm doing it in an interesting way. And maybe when I talk to someone like him or some other atheists, we can go through some of the issues. It's very logical.

And it deals with worldview, accountability, and ultimates. And we'll see.

Okay. Yeah. His situation is similar to Matt Dillon, Huntie, because he said that he was a pastor for 10 years and then. He uh became an atheist when uh when uh he said that he Realize that That uh that he couldn't reconcile some of the things in the Bible With the reality, because he said that he just thought that some of the stuff in the Bible was. Just straight up in error.

Okay. Yeah, I've talked to atheists who've said things like that, and then I say, well, let's talk about it. And um what el what else that that's an error? And then I find out that a lot of times it's just nothing. And they very often, what they'll do is create an error when there isn't one.

And one of the tests I give to some sometimes with atheists. is that they can explain what a tren what a uh a contradiction is. And you know, for example, when When two women were at the tomb, and another place says one woman was at the tomb, is a contradiction. The answer is: no, it's not. If it says only one woman was at a tomb, then and another says there was two, then that's a contradiction because one, By saying only.

means the other one cannot. Mm-hmm. But if it says there was a woman there, it's true. And there was another woman there too. Both are true.

And so, what I'll do is, I'll go through the issue of what defines a trend, excuse me, why keep saying that, what defines a contradiction. I have the word Tritter down my screen. I'm looking at it. And uh So they often don't know. And then when we go in and look at something, and I'll say, well, look, here's the possibilities.

Why then are you asserting it is a contradiction? Because what they want. They're hypocrites in a sense, very often, because they want absolute proof logically, absolutely connect all your dots. That God exists. But when they're arguing against God, they don't require the same level of excellence.

Well, you see, there are these problems here, so therefore that's why it doesn't exist. But if we give something that's on the same level of abductive reasoning, it's not deductive or necessary, but abductive, which means basically conclusions based on the best inference. then uh they say, No, it's not acceptable.

So they I often call it taxicab theology or taxicab approach because you get in and out of the taxicab depending on what you like. When you're driving along the realm of thought, defense, worldviews, and things like that. I'm going to get out now because I don't like what you're doing. And they play a different game. And so.

So, anyway, that's part of the stuff.

So, if you can find those contradictions and send them to me. Uh I can write up responses.

Okay. I just remembered uh Two more.

So you can type it down to your computer.

Okay. Uh first one, he said Uh Hebrews I think there's nine says, or yeah, it says it says that without the shedding of blood. there is no forgiveness of sins. And then he went to, I believe, Yep. And then he said he went to La Videgas five And he said and he said there and Several other places, there are exceptions where uh God forgave people wh uh when they did something But other than uh the shedding of blood.

And the second one is when He says I think in in numbers I think it's 2319, or it might be somewhere else in the numbers, where it says, God. does not change his mind, but then in I think he said in Exodus. A guy did change his mind when he was originally gonna. I think I think he killed some people, but then he changed his mind to to not kill the people. Yeah.

Yeah, those research answer. Uh-huh. Yep. Yeah, those are easy. Yeah.

So, yeah, okay. Yeah, well, good. I like those. And what I can do is write up responses and add them to the Carm website. It's not a problem.

'Kay. All right.

Okay. Um, and uh there's there's one more, but uh uh I don't I don't know if if you think it's worth responding to. But He says that he believes that the Bible claims that. The the earth is flat. And he says the reason why he believes this is because uh the word raqia in Genesis means uh a hardened a hard Structure doesn't actually mean atmosphere.

And he said this is why certain translations like The NRSV says dome in Genesis one, six, and NIV says vault in other translation. I think the NSB, NESD, and some Psalma Isaiah also uses Vault somewhere for Sky. And, um, what else? Um, he said I think in Job somewhere in Job. Uh I think Job 38.

somewhere in that chapter it says that The earth Is that the earth's surface is Like is like the surface of hold on a second. I'm gonna try to look it up on my mom bike real fast. June Job Thirty Eight. Um maybe twenty one A surface or a look it up. I'm trying to find it ahead of you, but uh And the service of the deep is imprisoned.

No, go ahead. No, it was something about the surface of the ground looking like something. And he said the f the fact that this passage says that the the earth looks like this, that means that the earth is flat in its context. Yeah, show it to me. I'll sit and find that when I can.

seem to find it but let me know okay we get the music going And we'll respond to that one as well. Just find it and send it to me at info at carm.org. All right, buddy. Oh, all right. I'm working on tonight.

Okay, buddy.

Okay, God bless. Whoops, sorry about the cough. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, the number is 8772-07-2276. Let's get to Tom from South Carolina. Welcome, Tom.

You're on the air. Oh, hello, Matt. How are you today? Uh doing alright, hanging in there. Hanging in there.

What do you got, man? I was talking. I was talking to him today on uh The Jimmy Swaggard Show. And uh they were telling me that the um Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit was one spirit, that was the same spirit. I just wonder what you thought about that.

Yeah, it's the same. It's just a translation difference from the King James Holy Ghost. And it's just the same thing as the Holy Spirit, but in the Greek it's pneuma, but they went to ghost early on.

So it's nothing. It's just a linguistic stylistic uh difference of translations.

Now, if you're Mormon, that's just holy. The Holy Ghost is a third uh the third God, but the Holy Spirit is the presence of God. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But when you say Holy Spirit, it's the same thing as saying Holy Ghost, not.

It's a Holy Spirit. or the Holy Spirit. It's the Holy Spirit. I was thinking that God was the Holy Spirit, and Jesus' Spirit. It was the spirit of a human being, a holy spirit, the comforter.

Hmm, interesting. The the phrase Holy Spirit and the phrase Holy Ghost are one and the same. They're just different translations. Most of them try. I'm I'm sorry, what?

Both are spirits. No, they're not spirits. It's like saying in Spanish, you can say, yo tengo ambre, which means I am. Am hungry. but you can translate it also as I have hunger.

because both are absolutely correct.

So the word numerical Yeah, both are pneuma. Both are individual spirits, is what I was taught. And I was taught they were two of the seven spirits of God. No, no, no, no, not magic. You're jumping all over the place.

You're jumping all over the place. The phrase Holy Spirit, the phrase Holy Ghost, it's just a translation difference. from the same Greek.

So it's the same thing, okay? But why did they put both of them in there? Because the both of them in the Bible. Because the King James. used Holy Ghost.

That's all. It's just an anachronism.

Well, it uses Holy Spirit, too. The Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit in one place, and then the Holy Ghost in another place. Mm-hmm. Well, uh I'm just telling you what the uh what the King James did.

Okay, it's that's that's all that's going on. All right.

Mm-hmm. This the guy told me that the uh two those two spirits, two Newman's two different spirits, or two of the seven spirits of God, in Revelation 3:1. two of the spirits were those spirits, which Which I don't understand. Of the seven spirits of God that Jesus spoke about in Revelation 3:1. Yeah, there's debatable data.

When he said, These things saith he which hath the seven spirits of God. Yeah, I'm uh I I know. Um But I'm trying to follow the logic of what it is you're. I don't see the connection because the seven spirits, someone could say that they're. When you say two of the seven, that confuses me because it's because.

You're saying Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit as if they're different when I keep telling you they're not. And then you Holy Ghost is the comforter, and God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit, is the spirit of truth. That'd be two different spirits. No, are you not? No.

What church do you go to? Um Well, uh we believe the people of the church. What what church do you go to?

Well we believe the people in the church.

Okay, here's a question. What church What's the name of the church you go to? House of Prayer.

Okay. Jesus said my father's house to be called a house of prayer. I didn't ask that. I just asked, what's the date that you went to? I had to say.

No, you don't.

So, House of Prayer, what city and state is it located in? Uh North Carolina. Which city? Mm. A city, um, it would be Cliffside, North Carolina.

All right, I got a reason for asking. Because Uh I want to know what's going on, and if the church you're talking about. is a cult or not. Because of the things you're saying.

Now I'm just telling you. that you're saying things but you don't seem to be adapting.

Now it looks like a What I'm telling you. I was looking at the seven spirits of God. He showed me in the Bible where it said that.

Okay, we're we're just done. I suspect um Without being able to verify it, but what I suspect is that it might be an aberrant group, and that sometimes we meet people like that, they don't really seem to. How do I say this? I'll just say it straight. I've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of conversations like this where when you tell people something, they don't listen to it or they dismiss it and then you continue on with the same thing.

I answer that and they go back to the same thing. That's why I asked what church you go to, because often what churches are can become cultic, kind of legalistic wacko groups, and they will do that kind of a thing where they teach their members not to really think through these things but to only react certain ways. And I've seen this hundreds of times, and that's why I was asking what his church was. It was difficult to get it out of him, which is another warning sign where they don't want to just say what church they go to. They give you ambiguous answers.

This is part of the MO of wacko groups and stuff like that. I'm not saying he is that. He might have been fine. It might be a good church. I'm just saying that it started becoming more suspicious as I was going on in that.

And trying to find his exact church, which I couldn't do.

So, and then he just started becoming.

Well, it's sarcative about it and not listening. And so let's move on. That's all, because it won't go anywhere. Trust me. I know that.

Let's get to Patrick from North Carolina. Patrick, welcome. You're on here. Hey, hi, Matt. Congratulations on the thirty years.

Thank you. Appreciate it. website's thirty years old yes uh Saturday. That's right. It was great.

Okay. And my question is if But you know, the word became flesh. you know Jesus But when Jesus died on the cross, what happened to the Word of God today? Where is the Word of God today? See, your question is Confusing.

When he died on the cross, where is he today? The cross was 2,000 years ago.

Now you're saying, where is he today?

So I'm trying to see the connection between those. While you asked me the question, you believe that Jesus is in the flesh today in heaven. But I'm asking, where is the word of God today?

Okay. Well, the Word of God is on my cell phone right now because I'm opening it up and looking at it. At the NESB 95. See where it is right there, you see. That's where the Word of God is.

in one place Yeah, but uh when the word became flesh, And it said the word was with God.

So the word was whips God In the beginning.

Okay. The word became flesh, Jesus, and he died. Did Jesus Go back to being the Word of God when He resurrected. He's always the word of God. It didn't go back to it.

as if he wasn't. Because he always was. The word became flesh and dwelt among us. That's Jesus.

So Jesus has two natures, the divine and human, and he still does and he always will.

So it's not an issue of going back. It's he always was that. And he always will be there.

Okay. Yeah, just and because in Revelations nineteen thirteen It says he's dressed in a robe dripped in blood. And his name is the Word of God.

So Jesus today is the Word of God. Yes, that's right, because he's God in flesh. Yes. It is in the flesh, Yes. Jesus is in the flesh because flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.

No, it says flesh and blood cannot, but Jesus says You can touch me because a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones as you see I have, Luke 24:39.

So he differentiated between the idiomatic phrase flesh and blood, which Jesus says to Peter, flesh and blood didn't reveal this to you, the carnal aspect. But he differentiated when he said, Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones, as you see, I have. And that's the difference between those.

Okay, so you kind of misunderstood that. All right? And. If Jesus sits at the right side of God, Nope. Does Jesus sit next to God?

Well, we don't know exactly what that means. It's a visionary. Description. He's at the right hand. The phrase right hand means the place of authority.

Now, Jesus is in a physical body right now, and he forever will be that as a high priest. He has holes in his wrists and his feet, and this is who he is for eternity.

Okay. But why wouldn't it just say Jesus? Is God in? Instead of saying he sits at the right side of God, that's what I don't understand. Because he's talking about the Trinity, the right hand of the Father.

And furthermore, I have a theory that the word of God is written in such a way so that people who don't have eyes to see. will not be able to see the truth. That's what I think. We've got a break, we can take off. Thanks for calling, Patrick.

Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. We'll get to, let's see, Oscar next and Alberto after him. Yeah. break we'll be right back please stay tuned It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it's easy. Just dial 877-207-2276. Let's get on the phone with Oscar from New York. Oscar, welcome.

You're on the air. Yes, sir. I have a Question. I listened to a Bible teacher. But he says we have to keep believing in order to be saved.

Now my question is this. Are we saved by grace as Kept saved by works? No, we're not going to be able to do it. We are saved by grace and faith without any works, and we're kept by grace and faith without any works. Yeah It doesn't mean it's okay to do sinful things, but we don't keep ourselves right with the infinitely holy God by our effort.

We believe because it's natural for us to believe, because God grants that we have faith, Philippians 1.29, and He's caused us to be born again, 1 Peter 1.3. We're new creatures, Second Corinthians 5, 17. And because we're new, we're different, we just naturally believe.

So, it's not an issue of our belief being our work, because our believing is the work of God. In John 6, 28, 29, they said to Jesus, What must we do to work the works of God? And Jesus says, This is the work of God that you believe on the ammonia set.

So, our believing is the work of God, but we do the believing. But we're also regenerate. We're made new creatures.

So, it's natural for us to believe. Just like it's natural for me to breathe. I don't have to. I don't sit there and go, I have to keep myself breathing to stay alive.

Well, I get what you're saying, but it's just, we just don't think about it that way. It's not like that. And so We just do what we're naturally inclined to do, and as new creatures in Christ, we naturally continue to believe. And God is the one who worked it in us. And so we believe because of His work.

And we do, and we believe, okay? Right, right, right.

So if we're saved, we cannot stop believing. I think we're truly saved. That's right. Right. Yeah.

That's that's that's my question, yeah, okay.

Okay, thank you very much. You answered my question, yeah.

Okay, thank you. Bye-bye. I got one. Yeah. Okay.

All right, now let's get to Alberto from Georgia. Alberto, welcome, brother. You're on the air. Yeah, I got in the match day. I got a question.

You think it's AI convinced some kind of polygraph gadget so you attach it to fasters? When they came, they said, God told me. God gave me a prophecy, so have a back screen, a digital big screen.

So when you say God told me, that's that the calligraph of the check if it's really came from God or not. if he's lying or not.

Okay. Uh Um My response is Huh? What? Can you go through that again? And you AI in the future invent a gadget, a polygraph gadget that the pastors can wear.

And when they Praying that God told him. And about a prophecy or God told them about this about certain stuff in the church.

So they have a digital screen in the back, and then the polygraph machine will determine if he's telling the truth or not, that it came from God or not. Um Uh I've never really considered that um So it's kinda hard to To jump in on that one.

So you're saying. Can AI develop a lie detector that a pastor can wear? Right. Yeah. So the advanced one, so you can connect it to your body.

Best one.

So that when he says, God told me this, God told me this.

So and then the polygraph machine detects these lines so in the screen in the background, the whole church can see if he's lying or not. Um A guy total career now. Wow, that that that'd be a good uh a a good device to have. I wish we had something like that for real because then we could send it to a lot of the pastors on T V. and and see what happens.

But um When you ask, can AI develop it?

Well, I don't know. I don't know if that's possible. I don't know if it's not possible.

So, you know, in a technical logical thing, I don't know if the possibility is there or not there.

So I don't know. But uh I I see what you're saying.

So the companies might come more sun and come in there. people would develop that. What churches? Yeah. Yep.

Basically, he would be a hot product to sell to these churches. You're just, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's get back to Earth here. Let's get back to Earth.

So you're just talking about a lie detector.

Okay. And there's a reason they're not admitted in court as proof.

Alright. But um Uh it's not anything I'd ever thought about. A holographic thing a pastor wears so that AI can prove whether he's telling the truth or not. Oh. Right.

They had, you know, they have this. They had a God told me this to tell you about a person or tell you God told me this. Or, you know, God told me, I didn't say all the time, God told me this to tell you.

Well, that way, if you know, for sure, it came from God. Maybe so they tell you that the check uh the polygraph of the check is varying, it didn't come from God. And it'll take if it did come if it did come from the ILD will show that he's telling the truth. Uh yeah, I don't know how that could be programmed. Bob Big Button.

Why not? 'Cause that technology advanced so advanced that it could do so much stuff now. Uh yeah.

Well they got nano robots in human bodies. Tell you what, um Uh I just Don't really think this conversation is really worth exploring very much. Because I don't think we can really Get to it, okay? All right.

All right.

Maybe just as a thought that came to my mind, maybe you You know, that way people be ba We see You know, succored by sorry, by deceived by these holy prosperity pen preachers all the time. Yeah. We needed politicians. But then Yeah.

So, um Okay. It ought to be passed by law first before just before the people can But I'm pastors. First. Um Wow, uh that's different. Uh that's interesting concept though.

that you could have in a science fiction novel. That it's a future requirement for people to wear bracelets or something that is set for lie detection. And that they're required to, and if they lie, they get zapped with, you know. 20 volts or something. That would be fun.

You know, I could see that. That'd be good. And then that way, you just watch politicians talk just for the entertainment value. Because it'd be constant, you know. They say hello, you know, could they just Mm-hmm.

or not.

Okay, that'd be different.

Okay. You know, you know, the one new woman had the one. Rather on the people. Underwoman that to wrap around that rope and make it to the truth. Yeah, yeah, I wish I had that.

I wish I had that for some people. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Okay. All right.

I've never been asked that before, but that's interesting.

So, okay. Thank you. Okay, well thanks. Appreciate it. All right.

Alberto comes through. That was good. It was interesting. Alberto has a tendency to ask interesting questions. That's one of the more...

Uh interesting. Euphemistic forms. Interesting questions, I think, have been asked in a long time. Um Other than from five-year-olds.

So, I mean, it was good. It was good. Good good thing in there. Oh. I'm not sure.

I don't.

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