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Yes, we can. In fact, let me do a search here. Let's see, biblical references to worshiping God in different ways. And I've studied this before, and I think I have an article someplace, maybe Charlie will find it, about different ways. But I know that there's clapping of hands, there is singing, there is using wind instruments, drums, cymbals, excuse me. So there's a prostration, standing with your hands raised.

So just varying ways. And I'm reminded, one of my favorite, it's not a memory, it's something my wife told me when she was in Togo, Africa. And she said that the worship service was half a day or all day on a Sunday. And the people would walk two, three, four, five, six miles just to get to church.

And the church was an open area, and they had a center row. And she said the music was so beautiful. I think she said they had one little instrument, like a drum or something, just to keep a beat, and they were doing harmonies. And then she imitated what they did. She said the people would come from the back, and they would go into the center aisle with a chicken with an offering as something for the Lord, for tithing.

And whatever it was they had in this village. And they would just rock to the sound of the music that was so beautiful as they would gradually step forward. And she said it was just euphoric. It was so beautiful.

It was so wonderful. She just said, I can see why they're there all day. And so that's a different style of worship, where they go down the center aisle, just bopping to the music a little bit as they step forward, worshiping God. Man, I would love that.

So a lot of it's cultural, but we need to be sensitive to those people in different contexts and not unnecessarily bring confusion and disdain upon the name of Christ. That's what I would say. Do I have time for a quick follow-up, or would you rather me bring it up tomorrow? Sure. Go ahead.

No, go ahead. Okay, well, I've seen people in my family literally just healed with things like cancer, and it's not the norm, but they had every reason to shout and jump, and I would too. But are you really doing God a disservice? I've been to some churches where it's almost like a morgue, and you're hearing the gospel, you're hearing all these wonderful things.

And I came up early in my life, and I went to Catholic school as a youngster, and that's what it felt like, like very dry, just religion without reality. Are you doing a disservice by going to the opposite end of that spectrum and saying nothing? Like you're just sitting there, there's no reaction at all. It's just very cold. It didn't feel like there's any spirit there at all. Does that kind of lead into an area where you're not giving credit to God? Well, it could.

It could. Let me tell you an experience I had when I was assistant pastor at a Dutch reform church. If you raised your hand during a service, during a hymn, that was hyper charismatic action.

You don't do that. And I thought a lot of these people were just stiff. You're like, oh, come on. Half of them spoke Dutch, they're really stiff. And okay, so I had to do hospital visitation. So it was a woman who was in her 90s and she was dying. She was in that congregation. And I still, to this day, remember sitting with her as she was at home on her deathbed. And she rejoiced in Jesus. She said she was looking forward to dying to go be with the Lord Jesus.

She wanted to be with her savior. And I never forgot that. Here's this woman who, Dutch tradition, you're very reserved. You don't raise your hand.

You don't do that. I got spoken to about putting my arm around my wife during a church service. But this woman represented a lot of them to me. And she was just in love with the Lord Jesus, complete dependence on him. And so, you know, there's the frozen chosen, so to speak. But I think they love Jesus in their hearts with expressed joy. And that for them to sing praises of hymns, you know, in a choreographed stand up, sit down thing, it to them is true worship. And I think it's acceptable.

So I think we need to be careful how we, you know, because that's what I was doing. Man, these guys, man, they're so tight. And then I just met her. Wow.

What a great faith she had. So, you know, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. So basically it depends on the heart of the person and what their intentions are.

Yeah, I think so when it comes to worship. And, but I'll say it once. I've said it once.

I'll say it again. I said, I want to go to Black Calvinist Church. That's what I want. I want the excitement. I want that good preaching. And I want to be alive in that church. Yeah.

So, you know, they give me an organ and a hymnal and I'm gonna dry up. Okay, but Oh, yeah. All right.

Yeah, I'll send you a link to ours. I think you'll really enjoy it. Oh, don't don't do it. Good. I'll cut it. You make me cut it probably. You know, coveting.

I'm trying to get out. There's so many things I covet like that. And someone else's prayer life. I covet good things though. So this sounds good, brother. Yes, I'd like to check it out, man.

It'd be good. All right. Well, thanks a lot, man. I appreciate you. God bless you. And bye-bye. You too, Jermaine, man.

God bless, man. All right. You always like talking to Jermaine. I always feel like we're friends already. We've already met and I feel like we're friends. Oh, he's a great guy.

All right. Let's get to Chris from Idaho. Chris, welcome. You're on the air. Hey. Hey, Matt. How are you?

Yeah, I call in quite a bit. It's all right. A couple of weeks ago, but how are you doing? It's okay. Doing all right. Hanging in there, Matt.

Call as often as you want. No big deal. What's up? Yeah. Well, I mean, I was just, so I do kind of check out some of the atheist arguments and stuff.

And there was one that they were talking about is like absolute certainty. You know, like you could basically take any religion, you know, and just believe it. So, kind of like they're saying that Christianity, you can't really distinguish it from, you know, the Islamic faith in that sense, right? That you're just kind of taking it at face back. Oh, you can.

Of course you can. Oh, yeah. It's easy. I say to the atheists, I say, look, I say, we have the prophecies of Christ. We have the resurrection of Jesus.

He walked on water, did miracles, raised Him from the dead. Oops, we've got a break. Hold on. We'll get back and I'll tell you what I say about how I handle it. Okay, so hold on. Hey, folks, be right back after these great messages. Please stay tuned. Be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it's easy.

877-207-2276. All right. Let's get back on the air with, where'd he go? Chris. There we go.

Hey, Chris, you still there? Yep. Yes. Yes.

I'm here. All right. Okay.

So when the atheists talk to me. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, go ahead and finish your thought because you were kind of in the middle of it before we went on break. So go ahead.

Yeah. Atheists will try and bring up these kinds of arguments, but they're not logically valid. You see, they'll say absolute certainty about the Christian faith. You really can't have it, or it doesn't make it true because Muslims, for example, they'll have absolute certainty of their truth, their faith. So how do you know which is right?

You know, and how do you know? And I say, well, competing claims about believing something doesn't invalidate the idea that at least one of them could be true. So just saying that, you know, how do you know which one is true as a defeater, in light of that, doesn't mean anything. So I said, okay, look, I say, what we have to do is look at the claims and look at what's being said by them. And the issue here, for example, in Islam, I said, I love it when you bring up Islam. I say, well, Islam can be proven to be false by what the Quran says.

You can't do that with the Bible. I said, if you want to look at competing views, let's see if the competing views are coherent, because if they're not internally coherent, then it can't be true. I say, would you agree?

And they say, yeah. And I say, okay, surah 482 of the Quran said, if there's any discrepancy in the Quran, it's not from Allah. Then I'd go to surah 86, 5 through 7, which says, let man but think from what he has created. He's created from a drop, emitted, proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.

That's chest. I said, the Quran's wrong. And therefore the Quran's false.

It is simple. Now Muslims say they have answers and may I'll tell you some of the answers that they've given are ludicrously ridiculous, but any rate, because they're so desperate. And I'll say to an atheist, I say, so there you go. It's falsified by its own proclamation. And I ask him, since you made this statement, I'm assuming you've studied all kinds of systems. All kinds of religions.

Can you tell me any others that you've studied that you think are just simply the same as Christianity is? And I put them on the feet of the fire and they don't, they can't do it. I say, well, right.

Because they're cool. Cause you're saying there's this, there's just so many inconsistencies when within these other religions where Christianity, I mean, you really can't, you were kind of mentioning the prophecies being fulfilled. And so there's just more truth to those, to those claims. Right. Is that kind of.

Oh yeah. The worldview. And I like to get it sometimes the worldview issues, but then there's logical ones as well. Because I'd say, well, an atheist has said, can you be sure of anything?

Absolutely. And what does it mean to be absolutely sure? What does it mean to have sufficient faith, sufficient reasons? Because they're going to assume certain values when they make statements like that. And I'm going to say, okay, what do you mean by absolute certainty?

And then I'll ask them to define it. Or, you know, for a fact that something's true. Well, how are you going to know that for a fact something's true?

Is it possible? And if you say no one can have it, it's called JTB, justified true belief. That's a lot of them. They'll cite that. It's an epistemological issue. And I'll say, okay, so do you have absolute truth? Your atheism is true.

No. Well, so then you're by faith and the same as we would have by faith, but faith is only as good as what or who you put it in. So let's look at the evidence for those different systems to see which ones make sense. And now I'm back around and then I've got room to attack them.

Okay. Well, I guess one argument that they would probably try to throw in your face would be, well, you know, the deity wants everybody to be on the right path to truth. And who says so if you have to go, go to the extent of having to like study and, well, I mean, I don't know, I'm just saying that would probably be an, I think I've heard that argument where they're like, you know, the deity should, you know, reveal black, you know, either is black or white. This is the truth. This is, you know what I mean? That's what they'll say. So people are without excuse. But, well, hold on.

Okay. This is where I get people all the time with this. They'll say to me, well, your God wants everyone to be saved. And I say, you have a verse for that. Now I know, you know, 1 Timothy 2, 4 and 2 Peter 3, 9.

I want them to do their homework. And then they might accidentally quote a verse. That's right. And I'll say, okay. And I'll say, do you understand what it means?

You know who the all is? And if so, and why would God then speak in parables? Jesus speaks in parables so that people will not be saved.

That's Mark 4, 10 through 12. So I say, so you don't understand. I say, I'm not trying to be condescending, but you don't understand the biblical theology that's at stake here.

And it's under examination. And I say, and I'd say this to atheists a lot. I say, you know, what's interesting is I have to do my homework, your homework, too. I have to learn epistemological systems and subsystems that you can throw out at me 50, 60, 70 different belief systems, epistemological issues, nominalism, naturalism, materialism, epigenetics. I have to know all kinds of stuff that they would use for all kinds of topics. And I say, so I have to study my notes. Well, you don't even study what we believe.

And you just go to a website and you just pick up a challenge and then you repeat it to somebody. You don't do your homework. I said, shame on you. Yeah. Well, and I guess, you know, like God revealed that his character through Christ, because he, I believe it was Christ who said, blessed are the true seekers. Yes, that's true. So it's almost like he's revealing a truth to us that, Hey, do you need to seek after me? Absolutely. It is true. Now here's a problem that they're going to have.

So I was doing this yesterday, literally walking around the block, I did four or five miles and I had my headset on. I was talking to an atheist and he was critiquing the Christian claim. And what he did was he jumped from what's called an internal critique to an external critique. So for example, Islam says that it is true. Christianity says it is true. Both claims exclude each other.

Therefore both claims cannot be true. So if I were to look at Islam, I'm going to do an internal critique. Islam says, sort of 482 and this, you know, I did earlier, therefore it has problems internally. That's an internal critique. If I were to go to an external critique, the Bible says that Islam is not true. And I show the verses that's called an external critique. Well, it's valid to have an external critique sometimes, but it's also valid to have an internal critique.

So you've got to make sure that what they're doing is not skipping and going back and forth between an internal and external. So I'd said to this atheist yesterday, I said, are you doing an internal or an external critique? I said, if you want to do an internal critique, you have to know your Christian theology.

If you want to do an external critique, pick one issue that you want to levy against Christianity one at a time, and I'll tackle each one of those. And so, and I say to them, don't go in and out, internal, external, internal, external, because that's not how you examine a proposition to see if it has truth value. And so when they, when he was talking to me, you know, one of the times, I've done this many times, I say, they'll say, well, how do you know Christianity is true? And I say, well, what do you mean by true? And they're not used to Christians asking them questions because they're assuming a certain value of truth. And I'll say, do you mean it's authentic? Do you mean it's historically accurate? Do you mean it's something that if it's true, we ought to believe in it? What kind of truth are you discussing?

They're not used to this. Right. So you ask lots of questions.

Go ahead. Yeah. But you know, I think, I think there's importance in kind of what I had mentioned earlier is like, God wants us to seek after them.

It's almost like when you're seeking, you know, it's kind of like the same idea of like, when you get a car, you take care of it. Hold on, buddy. We got a break. Oh, yeah.

We got a break. Hold on. We'll get back to you. Okay. Okay. Sorry.

All right. We'll be right back folks after these messages, please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, buddy. Welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Chris from Idaho. Chris, welcome.

You're on the air, buddy. You still there, Chris? We lose him. Chris. Okay.

Maybe we lost him. I don't know. Tell you what, Chris, if there's a phone problem or you want to call back, go ahead. I'll just drop you.

And, uh, we'll see if we can get into that a little bit later. All right. Let's get to Ben from Washington. Ben, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey there. How can you hear me? I can hear you fine, man.

I can. How you doing, buddy? Oh, I'm doing just spiffy.

Uh, hi, Charlie. Uh, so I have been, I'm sort of a younger theologian, and I'm getting into a lot of the basic stuff. Um, I've been reading a lot of books and I just good. I just recently started tackling, um, the difference between, um, Calvinism and Armenian theology.

And I've been wrestling with it and talking to a lot of people to kind of figure out where I sit on it. Uh, and I just thought maybe you'd have resources or, or hot button topic things to tell me about it. Sure. I think there's two main issues to look at sovereignty and free will. Once I believe, once you understand these, a lot of things will make sense.

Let me explain. God is sovereign. If we presuppose the truth of the Christian scriptures that reveal who God is in his character, then we know that God from all eternity has known all things. Before anything existed, God is the one who had the knowledge of all potentialities, all things that could exist if he were to create them. This would necessarily mean that everything within any creative order that he would bring about would then mean that all things within that created order are under his sovereign control because he cannot create something that he is not in control of that is outside of his domain and his sovereignty. Would you agree so far? Yeah, absolutely.

All right. Now within the, this logic, we can understand that God is a sovereign, but he also has another quality called a sea. A sea is the non-contingency that God's nature has a sea deals with the fact that God is non-contingent doesn't depend on anything else, anything else for his decisions, for his actions, or for his existence. This would be the absolute sovereignty of God and the complete knowledge of God of all actuality, being himself before creation and potentiality, all things that would exist if he were to create them. So he knows by definition, by necessity, he knows all things actual as well as potential, would you agree so far?

Yeah, it's a bigger one to swallow, but I'll try to keep up. All right. Now if anybody gives to a created thing that which belongs to God alone, that would be idolatry. Now God thinks we think, God loves we love, God hates we hate, God reasons we reason.

These are the communicable attributes. So when we attribute those attributes those qualities that belong to God to ourselves, that's not idolatry because we're made in his image. However, if we were to understand that the incommunicable attributes, those attributes that belong to God alone, omniscience we are not, omnipotence we are not, omnipresence we are not. So if anybody were to attribute the incommunicable attributes, those attributes that belong to God's nature alone and cannot be possessed by created order, anybody were to grant that to something other than God, that would be idolatry. Are you with me?

Okay, yeah, that's ugly. Okay, now is human free will autonomous? Is it non-contingent? Remember I said God has aseity, the way to say it is he is ase, it sounds weird but that's what it is.

He is ase, he has the quality and nature of independence of all things. What some people do is say that human free will has the same ability, that it is not contingent on anything else including God, that it is able of its that a person is able of his own freedom to be able to make a decision that's generated completely in and of his own without contingency on prior conditions or relationships. That would be a heresy, wouldn't it? Because it would be attributing to a created thing that which belongs to God alone. It's a problem. Are you with me so far?

Yeah, I think this is really hitting what I've been wrestling with, right? That's like the Arminian theology that I haven't totally swallowed yet where our free will has agency versus what you're getting at. But our free will does have agency.

We are able to generate conditions and statements and decisions based on our own nature. Now free will must be properly defined. Free will is the ability to make a choice that's not forced, that is consistent with your nature. So I say this this way because I will trick some people sometimes to say, do you believe free will is the ability to choose between good and bad. You can do good and bad, but you choose one or the other without being forced. And they say that's what free will is.

I say, well then that excludes God, doesn't it? Because God cannot choose to do good or evil. He can only do that which is good, that which is consistent with his nature.

So people will inadvertently use themselves as a standard of righteousness and then apply God to it. So free will has to be something that is generated by themselves that they are the ones in control of and they can make a choice and that's what free will is. But that's not the case because we have to define free will based on what God is.

So free will is the ability to make a choice between two options, but that's not forced, that's also consistent with your nature. Now that includes God then. So biblically speaking the unbeliever is a slave of sin, a hater of God, doesn't seek for God, cannot receive spiritual things, it's harsh, desperately wicked, deceitful, he's by nature a child of wrath. And so out of that condition of his nature he will not freely be able to choose God. He will freely continue to reject God because that's his nature, fallen, he's a hater of God, doesn't seek for God, doesn't do any good, etc.

I can give you all the references for this. So free will with the unbeliever is to act in a manner consistent with his fallen nature and in fallen nature consistency he will act. And so in order for anyone to be saved God has to grant them repentance, 2 Timothy 2.25, grant that they come to Christ, John 6.65, grant that they have faith, Philippians 1.29. If it's up to our free will, just the ability to just, we have the right information, it's just up to us to believe, as Arminianism often says, not always but often, then it would not be the case that God, that Jesus says in John 6.65, you can't come to me unless it's granted to you from the Father. Well if you can come on your own free will then why did Jesus say that?

You can't unless God grants it. That refutes the idea right there, this autonomous non-contingency kind of independent free will action, you just need the right information as a lot of Arminians teach which is heresy. Sorry but it is, it doesn't mean they're not saved, it's just a false teaching. Furthermore, God grants that we have faith, Philippians 1.29, to you it has been granted to believe, has been granted, ere is passive indicative, it means past tends to action, you receive the action of believing but you do the believing. Jesus says in John 6.29, this is the work of God that you believe on him whom he has sent, you're believing in Christ as the work of God but you actually do the believing. He grants that you have repentance, 2 Timothy 2.25. Furthermore, Jesus who's God in flesh has free will. He should be the standard of what free will is defined as. He says in John 5.19, truly truly I say to you the Son can do nothing of himself unless it is something he sees the Father doing for whatever the Father does these things the Son also does in like manner.

He can do nothing of himself. John 5.30, and will come forth, excuse me, I can do nothing of my own initiative as I hear I judge and my judgment is just because I do not seek my own will but the will of him who sent me. Now Jesus who has free will because he's God says he can't do anything out of his own initiative only what the Father does. Now wait a minute, so Jesus has free will but it's under the sovereign control and will of God the Father and yet he has free will. That is called compatibilist free will. That's Reformed theology right there. It's not Arminian theology. It's not Arminian view of freedom of will and I'll say one more thing that all things according to Ephesians 1-11 all things work after the counsel of God's will. God says he works all things after the counsel of his will. That means all free will choices that we make are made under the counsel of God's will and finally God does not look at the future to see what we'll do and then react. That would violate his aseity, his eternal non-contingent independence.

There's all kinds of problems with the other view. There's a break. There's a break. Hold on, buddy. We'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right. Welcome back to the show. Hope that was informative.

Hope it made sense. Let's get back to Ben from Washington. Ben, you're on the air. Thank you, sir. All right. So was that good? Did that help? Yeah, that helps quite a bit.

I've been reading through the Gospel again with this frame and I'm noticing things like that like you mentioned in John that you pop out at me now that didn't before, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I guess the thing I'm still wrestling with in that, because what you said makes sense is more emotional than logical, right?

Absolutely. That, you know, that I feel like I've made the conscious decision to follow Christ and I look at other people in my life, you know, that I'm trying to testify to. And so it's hard to look at it as their salvation being a foregone conclusion as opposed to a choice that they have to make. That's logically necessary. And it is a choice that they make. And there's something else. Now, I've been defending Reformed theology for over 30 years, something like 35 years, give or take.

And there's just some issues we can't solve, at least I've not been able to. How does our freedom in Christ work and influence God? James 5 16, the prayers of a righteous man avail much with God. Well, if you're in Christ, you're saved, you're righteous. So you and I could pray for the salvation of your next door neighbor. Does that influence God?

Yes. But wait a minute, how does it influence him if you ordained all things? It is like saying he ordained that we influence him. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, it's that it keeps kind of bringing me back to this analogy that C.S. Lewis uses saying that God just outside of time, maybe that's relevant here.

And maybe I'm totally off the mark. Yeah. No, it's like that. Well, you're thinking about this, too. Here's an illustration I've given with people, a blank piece of paper landscape.

I don't know why do you do it landscape I do it landscape. There's no line, there's nothing. It's just a white sheet of paper in the middle of it's a dot. That's God.

You take a squiggly line up in the dot, draw a hundred of them squiggly lines to the edge of the paper. Each one of those squiggly lines is a potential universe that could exist with all events in it, but they only exist in God's mind because he hadn't created anything yet. Well, that's logically consistent. Yeah. He knows all things of all potentialities.

Okay. Well then if he picks any one of those lines and says, that's the one I want to become a reality, then logically everything on the line is ordained by God. Everything. Because it couldn't come to existence without God's work in it. And if we were to super, you know, go down super, super slow down, I mean down deep into one of those lines where you're walking and through a store and you're going to turn left or right to go down a different aisle, it's your choice, but that's even ordained by God.

It does not necessitate that causation here means you have no free will because there's levels of causation. I don't know if you're familiar with that, with efficient, uh, proximate and ultimate. Are you familiar with those? I'm not. Okay.

This is a big topic. So anyway, efficient causation. Adam is in the garden. He ate the fruit. No one forced him. He is the efficient cause he did on his own. He's the efficient cause of his own sin. The proximate cause is the condition in which he made a choice. The condition is the garden, the trees, Eve, God had given him instructions. God allowed the serpent to come in and tempt Eve.

Eve gave and talked to Adam. So the proximate cause of the fall of Adam is God himself. So God's the proximate cause in that he brought the condition around in which the efficient cause could happen. But in efficient causation, the participant, the actor is solely responsible for his action because it's self-generated.

But the action cannot act independently because it always has to be in a context. The context is that which God has created for the creature to be able to make a free will choice. So God is the proximate cause, but it's more like saying he's the proximate condition maker in which an actual self-generated choice exists. But he knows that self-generated choice is going to exist because he's in control of all situations, all atoms in your brain, all atoms in the garden. And yet at the same time, and this is where it's tough to understand, yet we're the ones generating our own desires, but they're not independent from God and we're also responsible. So when you go to Genesis 50, 20, they sold Joseph, his brother sold him into slavery. And, you know, when they finally met again, he says, you meant it for evil, God meant it for good. So God was working in and through.

And you go to Daniel 4.35 for the same kind of a thing. What we're trying to do here is solve how the sovereignty of God and the human free will works. In my opinion, what Arminians do is stop walking down that road of exploration.

They'd stop too quickly. Because they think that they have no free will, without free will, then God wouldn't do anything. And then when Arminians talk to me like this, I say, well, what makes you think God won't interfere with your free will? You got a verse for that anywhere in the Bible? Because God opens the heart of Lydia to believe the things spoken by Paul, Acts 16-14. Jesus opened the mind of the disciples to believe the things written in the scriptures, Luke 24-45.

God moves the heart of the king where he wishes it to go, Proverbs 21-1. I say, so. Yeah, right when you said it, I was like, no, but I could think lots of contradictory examples. Yeah. Right.

Lots of examples of God influencing people's feelings and their actions. So I got a recommendation for you. We could talk about this some more, but I got a recommendation.

This is dead serious. If I were you, I would get a Word document or Google doc or whatever you want to do. Go to office.com and do a Word doc online and whatever it is and do an outline. I am humongously big into outlines. I have like 20 outlines. My notes on Calvinism are like 120 pages.

My notes on Roman Catholicism are over 250 pages. Outlined. Outlined material.

And I have all kinds of tricks I do. All right. Now, what you do is in this outline, you just put in this first topic and you make an outline. You hit the indent and things like that. You put human freewill. You don't even know what you're going to say.

You don't even know what you're going to do. You type freewill. Hit enter. Hit tab. It indents. Right.

Now you have the outline feature going. Define freewill. Well, go research freewill. Define it. This is going to teach you what kind. Compatibilist. Libertarian. The two main categories.

In subcategories, you might want to look into that. Look up the word sovereignty. And with me, freewill comes before sovereignty, so I do things alphabetically. Look up sovereignty. What does sovereignty define? Look at different dictionaries.

Theological dictionaries. What does it mean? Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is you do this and you do this more and more and more because if you just read something, you'll forget it. But if you read something, copy it, put it down, there's the note, this is the page it was on, and then you have commentary that you make about this, you won't lose it.

You can review your outlines at any time. And what happens is you are building a wall one brick at a time through the outline, which is the ability to place every brick where it belongs. Then you can see the overall pattern, the overall structure. But if you don't do something where you can retain all this kind of information, you kind of walk in circles because you need to know more than you know in order to get through this. And this particular topic, which relates sovereignty of God and human freewill, requires understanding causation, permissive will, decorative will. It's called a prescriptive will, permissive will, decorative will. You have the ultimate cause, the proximate cause, the efficient cause.

These are things you'll need to know. Does Jesus have freewill? Yes, he has two natures. Then you have to get into the hypostatic union, the communication of the properties. And what happens is you start learning and it becomes, well, for me anyway, addictive. I love this kind of stuff.

Of course, I'm autistic. So for me, it's like, hey, look at my outline, everybody. Look at my outline. And everybody just kind of squints.

They squint and then step backwards slowly. But for me, it's awesome. And I get to put everything where I want it to be and I get to look and learn. And so when people ask me questions, I can open up my outlines on my computer here and sound really smart with these quick answers when I've done the research already. Makes sense?

It does. Yes, sir. You've given me tools and direction and I appreciate it. And if you want, you can email me at info at karme.org and say, can I have your Calvinism notes? And I'll send them to you. Just don't give them away. I will do that. Okay.

Because you can covet them. It's okay to cover them. It's okay.

It's all right. And I don't mind, but they're still in development. You'll see X's next to things. This means it's not finished yet. It's just something I work on. I've been working on for years. I got years to go.

I just work on it occasionally here and there. And you'll see it's a lot of good stuff in there. All right. Yeah, I'll definitely do that. Thank you.

Yeah. But I'm dead serious about the outline stuff. It's an incredibly valuable tool. And if you put it, I prefer Word over a Google Docs, but if you were to go to word, excuse me, office.com and sign up for an account, sign up for an account, you get all of Microsoft office for free online. And then if you go to OneDrive, then you can go on your phone and you can go look at your same document. You can edit it on your phone and you can go online.

You can do it on your computer. You can do whatever you want. And it's just muy goodo. That's advanced Spanish for very good muy goodo. I like to say it's good.

It's useful. Okay. And people are mocking me in the chat room and they're typing it out, typing it out glasses.

Yeah, that's right. I have a friend who mocks me because I would say in the radio, well, what's it saying like that? He repeats it to me. He met, you know, you sound like radio. What does it say?

Can I get a deep voice that goes to real high voice? And then, you know, it's all in fun. It's all in fun. So at any rate, all right, buddy, does that help you? Okay.

And there's nobody waiting. So yeah, we can keep talking if you want for another couple of minutes up to you, man, if you have more questions. Well, I would love to, but, uh, I am at work and I, I, uh, I was, I've been trying to call in, but I'm always running the trucks.

And so I, uh, I don't want to call in and have it be just blaring loud. I gotcha. Okay. I, uh, I better get back to it, but I appreciate you. All right, brother. Sounds good, man.

God bless. Talk to you later. All right.

Thanks so much. Okay. We'll see you. Okay.

Bye. All right, folks. When I was explaining, I know that a lot of people have not ever heard of this before, but this is something, these are the waters I weighed in quite a bit because I need to, as I discussed various things with a lot of people, but doing it for years and years, I'm not claiming I have all this figured out. I'm not claiming that you had to believe what I say. I don't say that.

I don't believe that, but I do try and provide answers. And I think that there are some good ones and that if you were to trust that God is sovereign, even over your free will yet at the same time, you have freedom, then it becomes just an issue of faith that you can say, you know, I'm just going to trust God. I'm going to trust him that he is greater than me, that he knows how it all works and that I am saved because of his grace. And that he is perfectly capable of being sovereign over all my choices, but yet they're also my choices. I don't have any problem with that at all. So anyway, there you go. And I don't have a problem.

Also, I have no problem with saying the things I haven't got it figured out yet. So there you go. Hey, there's the music. I got to get out of here. May the Lord bless you. By his grace, we're back on the air tomorrow. And Lord willing, we'll talk to you then. Have a great evening, God bless. Bye.