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The Real Heaven - Why Heaven Matters, Part 1

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March 15, 2022 6:00 am

The Real Heaven - Why Heaven Matters, Part 1

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March 15, 2022 6:00 am

Ever stop and wonder what heaven will be like? What comes up on your mental screen? Clouds? Some kind of mystical place where all people do is sing and have really long church services? Well, that isn’t even close. Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram, Chip explores what the Bible says about heaven and why it will change how you live today.

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Have you ever wondered what heaven will be like? I mean, what comes to your mind, your mental screen? Is it clouds, sort of a mystical place where all people do is sing or have like really long church services?

Well, let me tell you, that isn't even close. For the next several broadcasts, we're going to explore and talk about what the Bible says heaven is really like. You don't want to miss it. Stay with me. Welcome to this Edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. The mission of these daily programs is to intentionally disciple Christians through the Bible teaching of Chip Ingram. I'm Dave Drouy, and in just a minute, we'll begin our series, The Real Heaven, What the Bible Actually Says. Now, if you're like most people, you have some vague ideas about heaven, but there's not a lot of clarity or even excitement for what it'll be like.

Well, if that's you, let me urge you to stay with us over the next six programs. Chip's going to open God's Word and reveal why heaven is an amazing place and why we should look forward to being there someday. Well, if you have a Bible, open now to John chapter 14, and let's join Chip for his message, Why Heaven Matters. My dad died from a very unusual and rare disease called Shay-Dragger syndrome. It's sort of a combination of Lou Gehrig's, MS, and Parkinson's disease. And so the last few years of his life, you watched him deteriorate and lose mobility, be in a wheelchair, then into a bed. My dad came to Christ in his fifties and had a thorough relationship with Jesus. But as he was ending the end of his life, you know, when you have a son who's a pastor, you expect him to know some things. And so I'm sitting next to his bed, and it's a time where he's really getting less and less and less mobile, and he can't get up.

And he just confides in me. He says, I'm afraid to die. He said, I know I have a relationship with God, I know my sins are forgiven, but when I think about heaven, it's just a blank. It's just odd. It's just different.

It's just, I don't get it. And all that unknown, that sort of vague sense of you go somewhere and, you know, I get Jesus is going to be there and the alternative is not good, but I'm afraid. And I remember realizing his son who is a pastor couldn't say, oh, dad, this is what heaven's like and this is specifically what will happen and this is what you experience and like I probably could on a number of other issues. Because I realized I'd never studied heaven. In fact, I realized it in seminary. We didn't study heaven much. And I gave my dad a book.

And I'll tell you a little bit later about the impact of that book in terms of his life and his heart. But as we start this study about heaven, I can tell you in advance it's not what you think. In fact, let me ask you this, just a little inventory before we get going. How often do you think about heaven? Have you thought about heaven yet today? This week, how many times did you think, oh, yeah, heaven, heaven, future. If I ask you what are the three main things that happen in heaven, I mean, other than maybe some singing, what would it be?

If you met a little boy that's 10, 11 years old with leukemia and was going to die and he looked you in the eyes and said, will you explain to me exactly what heaven's like and what it's going to be like because I really want to be there, what would you say to him? And what I can tell you is for most of us, we don't know. I mean, archeologists have studied every culture in the world and here's what I can tell you about every culture in all mankind. There's an absolute conviction of an afterlife, whether it's painting on caves thousands of years ago or whether it's tombs with treasures or whether it's some story in almost every culture about when people are good after they die, some good things happen to them and people that are evil, some terrible things happen to them. All across the board, God says eternity has been planted in the heart of mankind. And so what we're going to do is we're going to study what's heaven like, not what books say, not what movies say, not what we've heard, not what we might unconsciously think, but what does God say heaven's like?

Are you ready? Open your notes and let's jump in together. Why study heaven? I want to give you three compelling reasons. Reason number one is our misconceptions are crippling us. We have some false thinking, some misconceptions about heaven. For example, we have a misconception we think we can't know much about heaven. It's mysterious.

It's all just about floating clouds. And people will quote a verse in 1 Corinthians 2 that says, I hasn't seen or ear heard or entered into the heart of man all the good that God has stored up for those who love him. And they say, so you can't know what's going to happen.

In the name of that song, you can only imagine. Now let me tell you for sure, you can only imagine because it's way beyond what we could comprehend, but the very next verse in context says, but we have the mind of Christ. And actually the Bible is very clear about what heaven is, but I will tell you it's different than most of us think it is. Another misconception is that it's an other worldliness. It's these disembodied spirits floating around playing harps in eternity, sort of earning our wings. There's angels.

Every movie, you know, you can never see people's feet. There's always the fog machines going on and there's floating clouds and people were in white and it's ethereal. And I don't know about you, but part of that sounds attractive for a half hour or maybe 45 minutes or I think worship pastors are going to love it. But if heaven misconception number three is one very, very, very long church service, it might be really boring. I actually have read in a book where a pastor, a Bible believing pastor actually confided in another pastor, you know what, if it's just one really long church service, I want to be with Jesus and I want my sins forgiven, but I'm not sure I just want to actually go to heaven. I've talked to people when they're young and we talk about the return of Christ or what would happen if you died. I've had people say, I don't want Jesus to come back until I get married.

I haven't even had sex yet. Or I've talked to an elderly couple who were two or three years away from this big moment and they're going to go to Hawaii. I don't want Jesus to come back because we haven't even gone to Hawaii yet. In other words, we don't know what heaven's like, but it can't be better than married sex or Hawaii. That's kind of a limited view, don't you think?

Those misconceptions then lead to some predictable results. One, we have a very temporal perspective instead of an eternal perspective. There's a reason why the church, the old word used to be worldly.

We live for the now. The first two millennium of the church, heaven was a central topic. Teaching was paramount about heaven and hell and judgment and clarity and what it would be like. And in the last 100 years, as I'll share in a minute, there's been very little teaching on heaven, let alone the new heaven and the new earth. Second is, since we don't know what heaven's like, we don't study it much, we don't think about it much. I mean, when I meet people that have cancer, when I talk to people with debilitating diseases, when I go into third world countries where situations are very, very difficult, they actually think a lot about heaven.

Most of us don't. Heaven holds very little hope or peace or that longing for home. You know that sense that for some of you that travel, travel, travel, travel and you've been on planes in different countries and you finally get home and you lay in your own bed for one night and you get up the next morning and go, it is so good to be home. Multiply that infinitely. That's what heaven's going to be like.

But most people, it doesn't create any longing or any hope. I gave this book, probably the most definitive work in recent years, Heaven by Randy Alcorn, but he literally read 140 books all written within the last 200 years on heaven, then studied all the Bible and put it together and came to the conclusion, I never heard any of this. That's the book I gave my dad. He read when he could it by himself for a while and then he got where he really couldn't sit up and read very well.

His wife, that was a pretty thick book, she read it out loud to him. And I'll never forget, it was a few months later and I came back and the days were getting really close and we knew he wouldn't live long and my dad went through horrendous times as a young man in World War II and some other issues and he was paralyzed most of his life by fear. I don't know if any of you had kind of World War II dads, but I would remember every night my dad would get up and he'd check all the locks in the house. 20 minutes later he'd get up and check all the locks in the house and you're thinking, like they were locked the last time.

But he had been through so much he lived with overwhelming fear. And I remember a nurse came in and he'd read this book on heaven and she was talking to him about what they might do and could they extend his life and resuscitation and I mean he couldn't move his legs now and he turned to her and said lady, no matter what you do, don't use any extreme means, don't resuscitate me, don't put any feeding tubes down me, here's what I want you to know, it's all written down, I'm going to heaven and it's great. When you understand what heaven really is, it changes how you live life now.

In fact, that's why the second reason we need to study it, are you ready for this? We're commanded, I mean this isn't a suggestion, we're commanded to think about heaven. Colossians 3, follow along as I read, therefore if you've been raised up with Christ, in other words you're a Christian, you've died with him, you've been raised up with him, keep seeking the things above where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Notice this command, set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.

Why? For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ and God. When Christ who is our life is revealed, then you also will be revealed with him in glory. A lot of the issues, a lot of the anxiety, a lot of the lack of peace that we as Christians have, a lot of the temptations that we struggle with if we had a crystal clear picture of not this floating around in clouds and maybe playing some harps or some boring forever church service, which is completely different from what the Bible teaches. We would have a longing for heaven and it would allow us this eternal perspective to make wiser priority decisions now. In fact, the final reason is not just the misconceptions and not simply to command it, but our faulty view of heaven destines us to a wasted life on earth. Think of that now.

If that's true, that's strong. A faulty view of heaven destines us to a wasted life on earth. Open your Bibles, if you will, Gospel of John.

Go ahead, just open right there in the middle. I want to give you a little context as you find it. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, right there in the middle of the New Testament. Now Jesus has come and selected 12. One has betrayed him by now. In John chapter 13, he's washed their feet.

They've had the Lord's Supper. This is his last night on the earth. He's got 11 committed guys, about 120 people that are semi-committed that when he's resurrected, they'll at least get on the team. And he has one final night to talk to a group of people and the God of the universe who made all that there is, who's taken on human flesh, lived a perfect life. He's going to die for the sins of all people of all time.

Three days later, he's going to rise from the dead and he's preparing these 11 guys, mostly blue collar workers, to transform the world. What's he going to tell them? What's he going to tell them? He knows they're going to be rejected. He knows every single one of them, save one, will be martyred for the message and the mission. And the one that isn't martyred ends up on a rock writing the book of Revelation. He realizes they're going to have to have courage and be sustained through the most difficult times.

They're going to live in a world where there's persecution in Rome, where there's immorality like the world has never known, where there's a different God on every corner. And so this is what he says to them. Chapter 14, let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. In my father's house, there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have not have told you, for I go to prepare a place, a specific place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, notice here's the key, I will come again.

I will receive you to myself that where I am, there you may be also. What he understood was a crystal clear view not of floating around, not of playing harps, not of some ethereal experience, but a crystal clear view of what heaven is like and that new heaven on a new earth with real relationships and specifically what it's like would sustain them through the most difficult time in all of human history. And they persevered because they were waiting and living for, Hebrews says, a city that God was building.

That they were actually had the sense of the future that was clear and tangible and real and attractive. Now turn the page because here's the question I want to ask and answer. If heaven is so important to Jesus, if we're command to think about heaven, how in the world did we get so misinformed in the last hundred years? How many people have heard a sermon on heaven before?

Wow, three, four hands. Now think of that. Well, first of all, the father of lies wants us to get sucked into a world system that he's behind. So you know he's behind this. Second, somewhere along the line, and it happens, you study church history, you have centuries that bleed this way and they focus on a few things and to the neglect of this and then the pendulum swings back a couple centuries and you see this. What I have here is nearly every pastor in America, these are classic theology books.

Every pastor that teaches like I teach has these. Here's a six volume by Chafer. Six volumes.

See all these volumes in red? There are two pages on the new heaven and the new earth. This is a Berkoff classic systematic theology, 737 pages. There's one page on the new heaven, the new earth. This is called, this is Baxter's Explore the Book. That's a thick book. There's about four pages near the end.

Hodge has three volumes. He has three pages on the new heaven and the new earth and Ryrie who is one of my professors who talks very clearly about all the end times and tribulation and mid and post and all the issues. You get to the new heaven, the new earth and it's not included. We haven't taught people in seminaries about the new heaven, the new earth and what heaven's really like.

So pastors haven't taught it to the people and so most people, why in the world is the church so gravitated toward now is all that matters. I got to get it now. I deserve a break today. Right now is the only thing that counts. Why are priorities, do they get so skewed?

Why is temptation so hard to resist? I'm going to suggest that unlike the early apostles and unlike the first two millennium of the church, we really have no idea what heaven is really like. So let's dig in. A theology of heaven.

Do a little research together. The word heaven, if you're just opening your Bible and you read the word heaven, there's three different ways that it's used. Sometimes the word heaven literally means just the atmosphere or the sky. Okay, I mean it's the heaven.

Sometimes the word in heaven is used as the stars and the galaxies. The third use of heaven is the abode of God. In other words, it's where God is. It's where God hangs out. It's a specific place. If you open up to the book of Revelation and you read chapter 4 and chapter 5 and it has the throne and the elders and literally what theologians call that the intermediate heaven. We'll talk about that in a minute. But that's where God is, the abode of God, heaven.

So just to get our terms straight, we're going to talk about the third phrase. Notice, I just did a little topical study for you, the promise of heaven and just look up these verses. Heaven seems to be very important to God, even though we don't know much about it.

Let me just go through. According to the scripture, here's some promises related to heaven. It's a real tangible place, John 14. The father is there, Matthew 6. Remember, our father who art in heaven. Jesus is at his right hand, Hebrews 9. Believing loved ones are there, Hebrews 12.

Our names are recorded there, Luke 10. We have an inheritance. When you think about an inheritance, I mean, if your dad was a billionaire and he just told you, I just want you to know I'm leaving everything to you, wouldn't there be a little bit of excitement that when he's gone there's something coming your way? God says you have an eternal inheritance. Those aren't just kind of bubbly, gobbly biblical words. There's something real that you get. Our citizenship is there, Philippians 3.

Specific eternal rewards are given. It's the best of earth better. It's very tangible.

It's very real. There's an old earth that's fallen. We're going to learn there's a new earth. Sin, death, and sorrow are absent, Revelation 22. And then something that most of us don't think about, adventure, work, discovery, and rulership await us when the new heaven comes down on this new earth that really will be heaven.

So I don't know about you, that's a pretty important list of things that are coming my way that I ought to know about. Those major issues and core themes in scripture, the confusion comes when we lump kind of how we think about heaven, the abode of God and the intermediate heaven and the new heaven and the new earth. We tend to lump all those things together.

They've never been separated and explained. And so because it's not clear, it provides very little real tangible sense of this is what heaven's like. So let me give you next heaven in historical context. And when I use the word heaven, don't think just of this intermediate heaven where people go right now. I want you to think of heaven as the abode of God. I want you to think of the key with heaven. Every time when you read heaven, it's where God is, where God is. And so there's three major themes historically of heaven. You have Eden, God has created a perfect world and he takes mankind in this perfect world. He creates a garden.

It's pleasing to the eyes. There's a perfect place. And God from heaven visits mankind.

In all likelihood, the pre-incarnate Christ or what theologians call a theophany. And he walks with men and he talks with men and they have relationship and you have Adam and Eve in this perfect environment and they name animals and they're told to rule and multiply and have this amazing experience. And God created mankind in this perfect environment with the stipulation, don't eat from this one tree.

So God comes and visits mankind on an earth that's perfect. There's no hurricanes. There's no tsunamis.

There's no earthquakes. It's perfect. Then we'll move to chapter three and sin enters the world. Romans 8 says sin not only impacted the separation from man and God but it impacted all of creation. Creation groans.

And so now we have these dysfunctional things that happen in the creation as it's groaning. We have man is separated from God and so now God sends his son. He becomes fully God but he's already God, fully man and he comes to live among us, to rescue us, lives a perfect life, dies upon a cross, pays for a sin so that we can have relationship.

The moment a person dies during this window of time between Genesis 3 and Revelation 20, you immediately go into the presence of God and it's called the intermediate heaven. You might jot in your notes Philippians chapter 1 verses 20 and 21. Paul says I don't know what to do.

He thinks he's going to be executed. If I die, I'll be immediately with Christ who's much better but maybe I should stay to minister to you. You might jot down 2 Corinthians 5, 6. It says to be absent from the body is to be home with the Lord so there's no soul sleep, there's no delay but when you die in the present, you're immediately in the presence of God but you don't have a resurrected body. The resurrection comes later. The future what we have beginning in chapters 21 and 22 is there is a new heaven and a new earth and in resurrected bodies, we will live on this new heaven and this new earth and sometimes if I told you that you have an old car but I'm going to give you a new car and your old car is 15 years old and it breaks down and it has problems and I said that I'm going to give you a new car, I don't think you would say I have no idea what a car is.

Now what you know is going to drive better, it's going to be more comfortable but it's going to have a lot of the same characteristics as the old car. Here's what I want you to see. The heaven that God has planned for you is very akin to the heaven that was when he came down and created a place where he wanted to be with men that he visited and then this old perfect environment. God longed for relationship but there was life, there was focus, there was beauty, there was work, there was a discovery, there was learning, there was naming, there was ruling, it was real life with real people on a real earth. God promises in the future heaven literally, we'll look at it in a minute, we'll come down and there will be actually heaven on earth, the new Jerusalem and there is a new earth with none of the problems of the fallen earth. Let me show this to you. Now if you're looking at me with that weird look it's okay because this is foreign to most Christians.

I mean most of us have not been taught that so what I don't want you to think is I think Ingram just went off the deep end. Chip will join us here in studio with his application in just a minute. You've been listening to the first part of his message Why Heaven Matters from his series The Real Heaven What the Bible Actually Says. Have you ever sat down and thought about heaven? I mean what it'll really be like to have a new body to reunite with loved ones and be in the very presence of God? The fact is many Christians aren't excited enough about heaven which just shows how little we understand what awaits us. Through this three part series Chip uncovers what God wants us to know about heaven, the indescribable beauty, the fulfilling relationships and what we're actually going to do there.

He'll also dispel the myths about heaven and encourage us to actually look forward to eternity. Let me encourage you to really dig deep into this series The Real Heaven whether that's through Chip's book, the MP3s or the small group video study. For complete details on all of our resources go to or call 888-333-6003. That's 888-333-6003 or

App listeners tap special offers. Well Chip in this series you're tackling a pretty complex subject but as you said today it's really important that we know as much as we can about heaven. So would you take just a minute and share why this series is important and how it came about? Well Dave, honestly it probably goes back to the illustration that I shared at the very beginning when my dad was dying. And here's this guy, tough guy, marine, been through the war, thoroughly had come to Christ, his life had really changed and yet when he got down to the very last years of his life in moments of honesty it was like, man I'm afraid. And when he thought about heaven the only view he really had was I think what a lot of Christians have is sort of clouds and floating and yes Jesus is going to be there and that's going to be awesome but nothing that he could grasp that would really make a difference in his life. And then I realized that you know as a pastor I'd never studied it. I certainly knew there was a new heaven and new earth and I knew that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. And I had a very clear theology of heaven but I would probably have to say I erred on the side of vagueness probably more informed subconsciously by movies and the idea of you know there's clouds everywhere and all of that. And so as I studied this I got super excited and I began to find all these verses about what God has actually said set your mind on the things that are above and how when you understand what heaven's like and how real and concrete and what you'll do and the huge impact that how I live today will have on my future in heaven it really excited me. And so I taught it and then out of that grew the small group resource that we're really encouraging people to get. And then I wanted it to be a short book and I wanted it to be what the Bible actually says. There's all these stories of all these people with all these experiences. I wanted people to know this is what the Bible says. And so I would highly recommend people get the book in fact get one for a friend and then I would say to do the small group you would be shocked how motivating it is when you have a crystal clear picture of the heaven that God has prepared for you. Thanks Chip.

Well I hope you'll be with us for this entire series. And to learn more about some of the series resources Chip just mentioned go to or call us at 888-333-6003. That's 888-333-6003 or visit

App listeners tap special offers. Just before we close I want to thank those of you who regularly give to the ministry of Living on the Edge. You're making a big difference in helping Christians live like Christians. Now if you're enjoying the benefits of Living on the Edge but aren't yet on the team would you do that today? You can set up a recurring donation by calling us at 888-333-6003 or visiting us at App listeners tap donate. Thanks for doing whatever the Lord leads you to do. Well I hope you'll be with us again next time when Chip shares part two of his message why heaven matters. Until then this is Dave Druey saying thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge.
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