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Balancing Life's Demands - Warning: Discipline Can Be Hazardous To Your Health, Part 2

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January 7, 2022 5:00 am

Balancing Life's Demands - Warning: Discipline Can Be Hazardous To Your Health, Part 2

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January 7, 2022 5:00 am

You’re doing all the right things - reading your Bible, going to church, being generous with your finances - but you feel spiritually dead inside. What’s wrong? Chip shares how to break the spiritual activity trap and begin experiencing the peace and power you’re longing for.

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Do you ever feel stuck in your spiritual life? I mean, you're trying hard, and you are doing all the right things, but it's like, where's God? Where's the power? Where's the presence? Where's the love?

And you just can't figure out what's wrong. I've been there, and today I want to share some things I've learned to help you get unstuck. Thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. Living on the Edge is an international discipleship ministry featuring the daily Bible teaching of Chip Ingram.

I'm Dave Drouie, and we're in the middle of our series, Balancing Life's Demands. Now, in just a minute, Chip picks up where he left off last time by sharing an important warning for those wanting to grow spiritually, so you're not going to want to miss what he has to say. Before we begin, though, let me encourage you to try using Chip's message notes while you listen. They contain his outline, his scripture references, and much more.

To download these message notes, just go to the broadcasts tab at, app listeners tap fill in notes. Now, with part two of his talk from Matthew chapter five, here's Chip. He said, you've heard it said, love your neighbor and hate your enemies, but I tell you, love your enemies, and then listen to this, pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your father in heaven.

And the idea of sons, especially in Hebrew culture, it has family likeness is the idea. You'll be like your father in heaven. He causes the sun to rise on the evil and the good. He sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, duh, you know, what reward is that? I mean, don't tax collectors and sinners do that?

And so he makes this point. He says, I want you to demonstrate to the Romans mercy. I mean, grace. And then now he says, what do you do to your enemies? You don't give them what they deserve. Grace is giving people something they don't deserve. Mercy is withholding what people do deserve.

And so when your enemies do, he says, I want you to withhold what you would more normally give them. And I want you to overcome evil with good. You'll never be more like your heavenly father than when you love people who have wounded and hurt and abused and betrayed you.

And do you see, I mean, he is turning the paradigm of what it means to be an authentic follower of Yahweh completely upside down. This is a righteousness that exceeds the Pharisees because this righteousness is a matter of the heart. This righteousness requires supernatural help.

This righteousness is not a religious system of rigid personal discipline of doing the right things. And we can do it ourselves. I go to church. I'm on the missions committee. You know, I'm in a small group.

I give X amount of dollars. You know, I've got my little checklist. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I am doing great. I must be right with God.

And then it develops two things. Number one, a very tired, weary Christian with not much joy and usually a self-righteous person who looks down on other people who aren't doing as much. Jesus was the most winsome human being on the face of the earth. And his life of love and grace and mercy and truth and strength and courage caused prostitutes and sinners and people to be drawn to him like bees to honey. And it caused people who genuinely wanted to know God to see the Father as he really is. And it caused people who were religious and self-righteous and controlling to want to kill him.

And sometimes I ask myself, if I lived in that day, I wonder which one of those groups I would be in. I tend to read the New Testament like I'm always one of the disciples. Try reading it sometime like you're one of the Pharisees. My righteousness, your righteousness must exceed that.

And so here's the summary. Jesus condemns external righteousness, spiritual activities, when it does not flow from internal relationship with God. True spirituality is always an issue of the heart. God's love is never dependent upon your performance.

If there's one thing, if we could be set free, God's love is not dependent on your performance. I remember early on I was helping out with a school and part of trying to negotiate some tuition for my kids was coaching the basketball team as I pastored this little church. And I had a group of, in one of those big vans, 15 passenger vans, I had the whole team and we had about an hour and a half away, played the game, came back and the highlight for some of the guys was stopping at McDonald's on the way home regardless of the game. And so I've got about 10 or 12 of these guys and we're eating at McDonald's and there was a very, very old lady there. And she watched these young men bow and pray and a conversation started and just had a little prompting from God, wasn't trying to be ultra-spiritual, but got in a conversation with this lady and I asked her about her spiritual roots. Oh yes, and yeah, very spiritual and you know, I love God and this and that.

I said, well, tell me a little bit about, would you explain to me, and I've got all these guys here and I'm thinking this is a good window of opportunity, would you explain to me how do you develop a close relationship with God? Because, you know, she had a lot of jewelry and things that would tell you that she's very religious and she goes, oh yes, yes. And she was from the old country. I don't know what old country she was from, had a little bit of an accent, but she was from the old country. She says, you need to understand that there's this great God and between me and this great God is this huge boulder of granite and every day I get up and God gives me a little hammer and he gives me a chisel and I chisel a tiny piece of that boulder away and I do it with a good work here and I do it with a prayer here and another prayer here and another good work and I mean the lady's like 90.

And I said, well, how's it coming on the boulder? You know, like you had a lot of time to work on this one, you know, and she goes, oh, well, I'm not through yet but I just pray and hope desperately someday and she began to share a little bit of her life and I will tell you it is one of the simply saddest experiences ever. She knew a lot of the Bible. She quoted lots of verses. She was a modern day.

Her theology was the righteousness of the Pharisees and that's a vivid picture but I think at least subconsciously there's a lot of us that think that way. Oh, I miss my quiet time. Oh, I haven't prayed in a couple days.

Oh, you know, I'm given X percent but I ought to be given X percent and you know what? And there's this unconscious, oh, I feel okay and I'm doing okay and God loves me when I perform, perform, perform and when I don't. Now, we're going to learn in a second our spiritual activities. You're thinking, wait a minute, Chip, you just told us, man, you're giving all these sessions about, you know, how important it is and to discipline all this and now you're just messing with my mind, Ingram. No, no, no, Jesus is.

Okay? Everything we've talked about so far is absolutely true, absolutely of a necessity but it's the difference between doing those things to walk into the house and meet with a person then get focused on the driveway. It's the spiritual activities and just sort of a quick FYI in case it's never got clear because I lived in America and I went to church though it'd be not a good one, I never heard it. So just let me take two minutes before we go on. I want to explain the good news of the Gospel is this, God loves you and there's no way, no effort, no good work, no means you can ever have to earn His favor and there is no boulder between you.

It's a chasm that's impossible to cross. From the eternity past in the mind head of the triune God, they predetermined that the Son of God would come to the earth and take on human flesh being fully man and fully God. Fully man, He would have the ability to die. Fully God, He would live a perfect life and His sacrifice would have infinite value and after revealing by His life and His words and His teaching the very character of God, truth and grace, it was preordained from the foundation of the world that the Son of God would be unjustly accused of many crimes and He would hang upon a cross and He would hang upon the cross not for one single thing that He did but for the sins of all men for all time and as He hung upon that cross, He would be the offering for you and for me and all the sins of all people of all time would be absorbed by Him. He would become sin, a sin offering on our behalf and because God is holy and God is just, He would because He can't see sin for the first time and this was the agony, He would take His just wrath and pour it on the Son of God so there would be separation and Jesus would receive that and why He said, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Because in that window and moment of time for first time in all eternity, your sin and my sin was paid for completely by Him and He gave His life and He now offers a gift to every human being on the face of the earth that is free for by grace you're saved through faith, that's not of yourself, it's a gift of God not of works, at least any man should boast and then three days later not by a dream, not by a prophet, not by a religion, not by something in the sky, He would rise from the dead and for over 40 days have personal interaction with 500 eyewitnesses documented and just to throw a little icing on the cake, God had a number of other people be raised from the dead and they went around and talked about what was happening. In space time history and the offer and the message of Christianity is not be a nice person, go to church, clean up your morals and be a little bit kinder and nicer than other people. The message is we are lost in our sin, we're separated eternally from God, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except by me, Jesus would say and He makes an offer to you and to every single person who so ever would believe in Him should not perish but have eternal life. Eternal life isn't something that happens after you die, it is a quality of life where the chasm is closed, your sin is atoned or covered for, you are taken out of this kingdom of darkness ripped out of it by faith through His grace planted in the kingdom of His beloved Son in the kingdom of light, the Spirit of God enters your physical body, you're sealed with the Spirit, deposited spiritual gifts in you and His purpose is now as Christ lives His life out through you. That's the gospel, the righteousness of Christ and living the Christian life is not hard and it's not about trying hard, it's impossible. When Paul explains it in the book of Romans, he will tell us the first three chapters is the problem, chapters 4 and 5 is the solution, then chapters 6, 7 and 8 are how the supernatural righteousness is achieved. It's achieved first by reckoning that you died with Him, you rose to walk in newness of life, that there's a battle of the flesh and the Spirit, chapter 7, but praise God there's no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. It's the Spirit of God that manifests the very life and presence of Jesus inside you and He lives His life through you before God manifesting through your personality and your life, the righteousness and the life and the love of God. That's what it means to be a Christian and that's what Jesus came and that's what He was explaining.

Your righteousness must exceed that of the scribes and the Pharisees and so He condemns external righteousness if it doesn't flow from internal relationship with God. So you got it? Good. Now let's look at the second issue He addresses because you might say, well wait a second, you know that's wonderful, grace, grace, grace, grace, grace, grace.

That feels really good. But what about all those teachings we went over about spiritual activities and disciplines? Aren't we commanded to pray? Aren't we commanded to give? Aren't we commanded to fast?

Yes. Jesus' solution was not to stop spiritual activities but to ensure that we do them out of grace and relationship, not performance and obligation. It was that we would do them out of devotion and see them as what they are. They're just a driveway.

They're just a conduit to get to where you really want to go. Giving, praying, fasting, media fast, scripture memory, accountability groups, none of that is the deal. They're just the driveway to get you where Christ can make His home and have freedom and manifest His life in your heart. That's what Paul prays in Ephesians 3. That Christ would take up residence, that He would dwell and the word dwell there means He would feel comfortable and be at home in you. By the way, the whole Christian life, one word, abide. What do you need to abide? I don't know. I mean scripture gives us some basics but whatever you need to stay connected to Jesus, just stay connected to Jesus and let His life flow through you.

I mean if you really want to get it simple. What we know is that there are certain practices that help us abide. They're not ending themselves. They help us abide. In chapter 5, Jesus corrects our belief, our misguided beliefs about performance orientation, self-effort, guilt manipulation, obligation and duty. Now, in chapter 6, He's going to correct our behavior. He's going to teach us, well how do we do the right thing, right?

But how do we do it in the right way? I'm going to give you a quick overview here of the first part of chapter 6 and what I want you to notice here is that what He's doing here, He's going to say now, in our pursuit of seeking first the kingdom and His righteousness, there's also the danger of deception. In Matthew 6, He will give three most common practices of the Christians, the followers, the religious leaders of that day and what He will do is He'll show you, now look, your righteousness needs to exceed that of the Pharisees. Let me show you how to use those practices that does something to your heart and your relationship rather than tries to impress people.

So, here's His application. Chapter 6 verse 1, be careful not to do your acts of righteousness before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you'll have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets as the hypocrites do in the synagogue and on the streets to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received the reward in full but when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing so that your giving may be in secret then your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. He's not saying here that if anyone ever finds out what you give, it's a problem. What He's saying is if your motive when you give is to make sure people find out what you give, you got a problem.

And He's saying you can have a reward. Plan A, people think you're hot stuff. God's unimpressed. Plan B, God thinks you're hot stuff and in secret wants to reward you and people don't know about it.

You got it? The key here is our motive. The key issue is our motive. Giving guards your devotion.

Your heart just always follows your treasure. So if you want your motives and your devotion to stay true to God and not an idol, what did Jesus say? When Jesus said this wild thing, He says there's only really two Gods, me and Mammon. I mean what's Mammon? It's materialism.

And He says you know you can't serve both. And so giving isn't like all this obligation, oh my gosh who made up this 10% thing and oh gosh I went to that seminar. They're into this what proportional giving? My and I'm doing 10%. It took me forever.

Now they're going 12, 15, 22. Boy I'll tell you what, I don't know where these people were coming from. And you know okay I paid my taxes, okay PG&E bill, gas bill, mortgage bill, Jesus bill.

He said you missed. Giving is my opportunity to remind you that I own everything and your breath is from me. And what do you have that you don't receive? And your heart is a very precious thing to me. And so I've instituted this practice that every time you receive some things you take a portion of it and actually I'm quite generous since it's all mine and I just ask for a portion of it not because I need it.

I can do anything. But I'm asking for a portion as sort of this reminder for you to take your little claws because you always want to hang on to stuff and let go and love other people because I'm the most generous being in all the universe. I love so much. I gave my son. And so I want to teach you how to love.

And you know what? You can give without loving but you can never love without giving. And so it's a practice not to say oh gosh I'm really making progress. I used to only be a 10% or I'm up to 12.5. I'm giving 30% of my income now. God has more and more of my heart and I give cheerfully and I give as a son who says oh God thank you. And all of this is still to bless me and to richly enjoy.

Thank you Lord. I encourage you to give from the heart first. Then by the way what many of you don't do pay yourself. Save second.

And then live on the rest. The next practice he goes to the motive again. The key issue in prayer. And when you pray don't be like the hypocrites for they love to pray. How do they do it? Standing in the synagogues on the street corners. Why? To be seen by men.

I tell you the truth they've received their reward in full. But when you pray go into your room. It's the idea of the inner room. Close the door. Pray to your father who's seen in secret. Then your father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And then he goes on and talks about when you pray and how to pray and the right way to pray and not babbling and he gives us what's now known in the Lord's prayer. But he gives us in prayer what? It's again motive and it guards your discernment. A lot of the issues you have are discernment issues.

What should I do? I just don't know. And you know what? No one does. But God. And he has an agenda for you. And we always want someone to tell us what we ought to do and what percentage should we give and should I do this or should I do that. Guess what you know what? God wants to tell you.

He wants to tell you. But you got to sit still. And I pray in the car. I'm going to keep praying in the car. I practice the presence of God. I have quick little prayers here.

I have short ones over here. But I have to stop, go into my inner room, shut off the world, sit before him and get clear. And often I pray through the Lord's prayer so that it's not just needs or it's not just worship. It's our father.

It's relationship. Who art in heaven. Holy.

This is who God is. I want your kingdom to come. Your agenda, not mine. I'm going to ask for my needs. I'm going to deal with relational issues and forgive anybody you bring to my mind. I'm going to ask you to guard me from temptation.

You know what's coming today. And I want your kingdom and your power and your glory. So he says I want you to pray not because if you, okay, I did it 15 minutes. I'm spiritual. I did it 20.

I did it 25. I pray for an hour every day. I'm not sure God has a clock or watch up there. I think he's looking at the heart and the honesty and the openness and where you say Lord speak. Your servant is listening. Where you're the Mary. Lord be it unto me according to your word. Lord if you'll show me, I'll do.

I need to know. Because see the real goal of all those issues you have, your agenda is you want to know like me so you can do this and do that and know what to do. You know what God's agenda is? Hanging out with you. Enjoying you. And the more you rub up and enjoy him, it's, you won't even notice it happening but it's kind of like when Moses was hanging out with God a lot, remember that?

Like 40 days, no food, no drink. Just talking. When he came down, what was he like? He's glowing.

Why? Because you always become like the people you hang out with. And when you learn to hang out with God, you just, I mean, it's not like some mechanical deal.

You just become more and more like him. And so the third area Jesus says about this internal righteousness, he talks about fasting and we pick that up in verse 16. When you fast don't look somber as the hypocrites do for they just figure their faces to show men their fasting. I tell you the truth, they've received their reward in full but when you fast, put on oil on your head and wash your face so that it won't be obvious to men that you're fasting but only to your father who is unseen and your father who sees what is done in secret and he'll reward you. Fasting is a motive again and it provides perspective. It allows you to disengage from all the stuff and spend that time with God and try a day or two occasionally so when those hunger pains come, you know, drink a lot of water and you say, God, I want to be reminded. I want to be reminded that all the busyness and all the pool and all the demands, you're just sort of backing up and I will tell you as you do that, you get perspective. Your spiritual sensitivity goes up when you fast.

And finally, the summary of this is pretty clear. Spiritual disciplines are essential, okay? Spiritual disciplines are essential but become dangerous when they become a means to gain the reward of men rather than deepen our relationship with God.

Isn't it amazing that just the heart behind Jesus teaching here? Do you need to have personal discipline? Yeah. Do you need to get your priorities right? Absolutely. Do you need to, I mean, get a handle on your time and your money? Yes. Do you need to look at the six things that are misplaced priorities and say I need to address it but you need to do all that with the righteousness that exceeds that of the scribes and the Pharisees.

I have a final application here. It's that secrecy is God's method of keeping our motives pure. And this isn't a legalistic, oh, no one knows. If someone finds out you're doing this or that or someone found out it was fasting, big deal. That's not the issue. The issue is if you have a sign. By the way, did you know I'm spiritual and I'm fasting today?

You know, that's what's being prohibited. Seems like God lets me do all kind of really silly dumb things and looking back now to help other people, I guess. But it took me a long time to lock in to really want to be a follower of Jesus. And then when I did, I can remember the day I woke up and thought I am a modern day Pharisee.

I came up with a group that was really into scripture memory. So I mean I memorized hundreds and hundreds of verses. And then I went to chapters. And then I went to memorizing whole books. And boy was I spiritual. And I remember bumping into someone who had known me about four years earlier and really good relationship, liked her and God really used her.

She was not a believer. We passed in a common area outside where the school was. And I said, hi, how you doing? And she said something and I said something and she said something. And I quoted a verse, you know, appropriately being the spiritual giant that I am. I mean, you got all these verses, you got to use them. And people got to know how holy you are.

So I mean, you know, bang, bang, bing, boom, boom, boom. Hey, you got a problem? I got a verse. I mean, I was bad man, you know.

So I'm, anyway. So she makes some comment and I quote a verse. And then the spirit of God speaks to this gal and she looks at you and goes, you know, Chip, I knew you about four years ago. And you were a really neat guy.

And she said, you know, you just kind of, I don't know what the right word is but you were easy going, you were fun to be around. You know, I didn't know much about Christianity but I remember thinking, I'm not sure where you're coming from but you seem to have a song on your heart. You treated people in a way and I thought, you know, man, if I ever wanted to be a Christian, I'm not sure I ever would because I'm not sure what it's about, I think I'd like to be one like you. And she said, Chip, you know, I just kind of watch things and right now you're just a Bible spouting person that, you know what, every time I talk with you I always leave feeling less of a person and guilty and what I realize is I don't like to talk with you and I don't like to be around you. And I'm, you know, obviously aware that her lack of spirituality is, she's unable to discern the higher things of God.

And you know what, I wish I was joking. When I walked away I remember thinking, well obviously, you know, she doesn't have the Spirit because the verse came to me, those who, you know, don't know the Lord, the Spirit of Christ is not of them, that he can understand the things of the Spirit of God for they're spiritually discerned and if they don't have, you know. And then I got almost back to where I was to be and the Spirit of God said, you Bible quoting hypocrite, all you have is a righteousness of the Pharisees. And you were a driven, focused, disciplined guy and all you did is change uniforms from thinking basketball or impressing people or getting good grades or making money would make you somebody and all you did is exchange it for religious clothes. And during that time I had a guy give me a three by five card after being at a little training program for three months and of course I thought I was doing great because I always got my stuff done, I had more verses memorized, I did all that you're supposed to do and all he did was give me a card with these two verses.

And I thought maybe there's a message here. Luke 16, 15, it says, Jesus says, you are the ones who justify yourselves in the sight of men but God knows your heart. That which is highly esteemed among men is detestable on the side of God. And just in case I didn't get his point, he had Galatians 1, 10. Am I trying to win the approval of men Paul would write or of God? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ. And I would like as your little application is go in your notes a page or two back and then just gaze at those little tests, your pop quiz and look at objectives and look at priorities and look at schedule and look at discipline and look at accountability and now let's look at these through the lens of how are you doing as those are simply means to know and love God and deepen your relationship because personal discipline is a very, very spiritually hazardous endeavor. You need to be disciplined but your discipline can always be just a driveway.

The means can never be an end. God wants your heart. Chip will be right back with his application for this message from his series Balancing Life's Demands. Does it feel like life is pulling you in a thousand different directions? Are you exhausted trying to juggle your job, kids, marriage and everything else you're responsible for? Do you wish there was a way to relieve that stress and tension on your shoulders and live life with a little more joy? Well, in this series, Chip reveals what a balanced life really looks like and how you can rearrange your priorities around what matters most.

Hear how you can experience the joy-filled and satisfying life God desires for you to have. For more information about the series, go to or call us at 888-333-6003. Additionally, all the resources for Balancing Life's Demands are discounted and the MP3s are always free. Again, go to or call 888-333-6003 for all the details.

App listeners, tap Special Offers. Before we go any further, Chip has something he'd like to say. You know, every time the calendar turns over, people make plans to get in shape or start eating right, right? I mean, we want to start the new year well.

Let me challenge you to get in shape spiritually. I mean, it's not just as important. I think it's even more important. Yes, reading the Bible, praying, maybe memorizing a key passage here or there, all that's important. But here's my experience. People start well, but they don't stay with it. That's because we often do it alone. If there's one thing we've learned from those that actually lose weight, those who actually stay in shape, all those different things that you hear advertised, the key is community.

God designed it long before it was popular. It's called a small group. And right now, what we want you to know is that if you will start a small group or join a small group, we're going to put all of our resources on sale to help you.

Are you ready? Balance life's demands. Walk with God.

Get your priorities where they need to be and stick with it this year so that your life becomes more and more like Jesus. Thanks, Chip. Well, we have a growing library of small group resources on a wide range of topics and they're so easy to use. Chip provides the teaching. Then you'll have time to discuss what you've heard alongside our helpful study guides. We even offer some insights for leaders to lead their groups well.

So if you're not in a small group yet or you aren't sure what to study next, let me encourage you to check out our resources. As Chip said, for a limited time we've discounted all of our small group resources so you can get into community starting today. To learn more, go to or call us at 888-333-6003.

That's 888-333-6003 or App listeners, tap special offers. As we close today's program, we've talked about priorities. We've talked about your motivation. I just gave you a review of the role of prayer and fasting and giving. Here's what I want to tell you.

It's about relationship. I have been through seasons of my life where I literally memorized hundreds, hundreds of verses and never missed a day praying. Part of it then is how do you get the balance? The fact is that I need to read the Bible at times when I don't feel like it. I need to pray when I don't feel like it and have times of breakthrough. But I have to avoid this idea that doing those things makes me right with God or somehow I'm performing. What I've found is I have literally taken in my journey with the Lord this approach. I want my heart connected to you more than anything else.

So what I'm going to do when I meet with you is what will connect my heart. Yesterday I did not read the Bible at all. I listened to about thirty-five minutes of worship music and I sang out loud and I enjoyed God. The day before I read my Bible a little, I sat quietly. I just listened to God as I had lots of questions. The day before that, my normal approach is I read the Bible, I pray, I have a little program. What I've come to is what do I need to keep my heart tender with my Father?

We had family in and it interrupted my time and some of us get really uptight because I'm going to miss my time. I had a little granddaughter come down the stairs just about the time I was ready to open my Bible. What I realized was the greatest thing I could do was put that little girl on my lap and play with her and talk to her and love her because God always values obedience over sacrifice. God's always looking for that which connects your heart, that which loves Him and loves others.

That will look different for different people. I think sometimes, especially some of us with obsessive compulsive tendencies, we just get our checklist and we unconsciously do so much of this and so much of that. The balance is I do need to keep on track, but I need to give myself permission as I'm on track to have freedom there. There's been other times I've just felt dry and I've just said, I read the whole book of Esther the other day.

I don't usually read that much. I just needed it. I just needed my mind to get soaked in Scripture. What I want you to hear is let your heart be open to the Lord, have a structured plan that you follow, and then inside of that have liberty and get what you need just like you would in any relationship so that at the very core of why you meet with God and what you do, you want to ask and answer the question, what does it look like to give love and to receive love from your Heavenly Father and to other people?

And you know what? If you do that, I think your priorities will be right where God wants them. Just before we close, would you pray for those who are feeling challenged to respond to Chip's encouragement right now?

There's always a spiritual battle when we feel prompted to draw near to God. Thanks for taking a minute to do that. And if there's a way we can pray for you, would you let us know? Call 888-333-6003 or email chip at We'd love to hear from you. Well, until next time, for everyone here, this is Dave Drewey saying thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge.
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